Shaq responds to Kobe:

[RRR3]

[Bronbron23]

Damn I like Kobe but that's a wrap. Kobe Stan's gonna be in full damage control after that one lol

[Hey Yo]

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[Mr Feeny]

Well now. This is a bigger slay than the rap in 2008:oldlol:

[SomeBlackDude]

Well now. This is a bigger slay than the rap in 2008:oldlol:

kobe: "his ass taste like barbeque chicken :ohwell: "

[RRR3]

Shaq also commented

[LAmbruh]

damn :roll: :roll: :roll:



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[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Shaq got his ass. :oldlol:

What Kobe said might be true, but he also sabatoged that finals. No doubt.

[Mr Feeny]

Shaq is right and I'm glad he put Kobe in his place here. Kobe was sneaky in the interview and resorted to the backhanded compliment that was really a put down. To blame the man who carried you to 3 titles for not carrying you to 12 and say that it's his fault he didn't, is so bindbogglingly delusional , I dont even know where to start.

Shaq immediately put an end to the hypothetical conversation and brought up an example of Kobe single handedly losing a title for the Lakers. Now, Kobe is backtracking and telling everyone that there is no beef and that all is good despite the fact that he made a concerted effort to denigrate Shaq in an interview and prop himself up in the process. You forget how narcissistic this drama queen was because he retired, and then he comes up with his usual stuff.

[tpols]

Kobe was right... He almost won as many rings with pau effin gasol as shaq...

Think about that.

Shaq played over a decade of ball with penny, wade, Nash, LeBron, and only has 1 ring to show for it.

Intangibly, he was a total loser outside of playing with Kobe.

[RRR3]

Shaq is right and I'm glad he put Kobe in his place here. Kobe was sneaky in the interview and resorted to the backhanded compliment that was really a put down. To blame the man who carried you to 3 titles for not carrying you to 12 and say that it's his fault he didn't, is so bindbogglingly delusional , I dont even know where to start.

Shaq immediately put an end to the hypothetical conversation and brought up an example of Kobe single handedly losing a title for the Lakers. Now, Kobe is backtracking and telling everyone that there is no beef and that all is good despite the fact that he made a concerted effort to denigrate Shaq in an interview and prop himself up in the process. You forget how narcissistic this drama queen was because he retired, and then he comes up with his usual stuff.
Yeah very disrespectful on Kobe’s part to air that in public.

[RRR3]

Kobe was right... He almost won as many rings with pau effin gasol as shaq...

Think about that.

Shaq played over a decade of ball with penny, wade, Nash, LeBron, and only has 1 ring to show for it.

Intangibly, he was a total loser outside of playing with Kobe.
Yeah Shaq was totally in his prime when he played with Wade and LeBron :rolleyes:

[Mr Feeny]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Yeah very disrespectful on Kobe

[tpols]

Yeah Shaq was totally in his prime when he played with Wade and LeBron :rolleyes:


Shaq placed 2nd in the MVP race playing with wade...

You just exposed yourself.

[LAmbruh]

Kobe was right... He almost won as many rings with pau effin gasol as shaq...

Think about that.

Shaq played over a decade of ball with penny, wade, Nash, LeBron, and only has 1 ring to show for it.

Intangibly, he was a total loser outside of playing with Kobe.

Weird, last I recall Lamar Odom was swapped for Shaq

2004 Olympian, 18/10/4 stud as a Clip

Fortunately we were so privileged with talent in 07 that Phil demoted him to 6th man off the bench.

[bigkingsfan]

Shaq placed 2nd in the MVP race playing with wade...

You just exposed yourself.
Now look at Kobe MVP votes with three peat Shaq.

[scuzzy]

Now look at Kobe MVP votes with three peat Shaq.
ouch

[RRR3]

Shaq placed 2nd in the MVP race playing with wade...

You just exposed yourself.
Shaq was scoring like 23 PPG then. That doesn’t sound like prime Shaq to me. Even if you want to count 2005 as the last year of his prime, he got injured in the 2005 playoffs and very well could have won a ring otherwise, so that just ruins your dumbass point further.

Also that means Kobe had prime Shaq in 04 :roll:

[Mr Feeny]

Shaq placed 2nd in the MVP race playing with wade...

You just exposed yourself.

Even for a Kobe stan, this is just way too dumb to take seriously.
Now, focus on the thread topic.

[Bronbron23]

Shaq placed 2nd in the MVP race playing with wade...

You just exposed yourself.
He wasn't in his prime though. Lots of guys win or almost won MVP out of there prime. Mj is a perfect example.

[tpols]

Yea if you finish at the top of the MVP ladder, you're still a prime player. Of course he was still prime in '04 too nobody would dispute that.

Shaq was an absolute force in the east on Miami. I remember him giving the jkidd n vc3 nets the absolute business back then.

But the point is he won less without Kobe, than Kobe won without him...with more help.

[tpols]

He wasn't in his prime though. Lots of guys win or almost won MVP out of there prime. Mj is a perfect example.


Jordan was still in his prime when he led the bulls 2nd three peat.

You dont even understand the definition of the word my friend.

What you're looking for is "peak".

[RRR3]

Yea if you finish at the top of the MVP ladder, you're still a prime player. Of course he was still prime in '04 too nobody would dispute that.

Shaq was an absolute force in the east on Miami. I remember him giving the jkidd n vc3 nets the absolute business back then.

But the point is he won less without Kobe, than Kobe won without him...with more help.
We really acting like Kobe was some huge help to Shaq in 2000? :biggums:

[ErhnamDjinn]

the correct thing both these guys should have said were we were immature idiots and could have won more if we played better with each other.

[Wally450]

Imagine if Kobe passed and Shaq had a better work ethic doe?

Easily legit like 8-9 rings.

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[Bronbron23]

Jordan was still in his prime when he led the bulls 2nd three peat.

You dont even understand the definition of the word my friend.

What you're looking for is "peak".Well I would say prime is at your absolute best state andj was not in his prime in his second three peat but if you want to use "peak" prime than that's fine. Sounds like we're basically saying the same thing I guess

[Kblaze8855]

Yea if you finish at the top of the MVP ladder, you're still a prime player. Of course he was still prime in '04 too nobody would dispute that.

Shaq was an absolute force in the east on Miami. I remember him giving the jkidd n vc3 nets the absolute business back then.

But the point is he won less without Kobe, than Kobe won without him...with more help.

I don

[Kblaze8855]

Jordan was still in his prime when he led the bulls 2nd three peat.

You dont even understand the definition of the word my friend.

What you're looking for is "peak".


So Michael Jordan

[Da_Realist]

Shaq is right and I'm glad he put Kobe in his place here. Kobe was sneaky in the interview and resorted to the backhanded compliment that was really a put down. To blame the man who carried you to 3 titles for not carrying you to 12 and say that it's his fault he didn't, is so bindbogglingly delusional , I dont even know where to start.

Shaq immediately put an end to the hypothetical conversation and brought up an example of Kobe single handedly losing a title for the Lakers. Now, Kobe is backtracking and telling everyone that there is no beef and that all is good despite the fact that he made a concerted effort to denigrate Shaq in an interview and prop himself up in the process. You forget how narcissistic this drama queen was because he retired, and then he comes up with his usual stuff.

^^ This

[tpols]

Being second in mvp voting doesn’t mean anything.

Jordan won the ****ing mvp in 1998 and wasn’t in his prime....


Sure it does.

And yes he was.

Kobes prime is typically cited as '01 to '10 despite him being a physical shell of himself at the tail end compared to the beginning. Because he had the experience and mental edge end prime.

I have no doubt '98 Jordan would spank '86 Jordan over the course of a long season, given the same help, and ultimately in a series. Hed have a tremendous mental edge that would make up the athleticism gap. Hed lead his teammates better as well.

Like an old slow Dirk beating a peak athletic LeBron... Mental accounts for a ton and 2nd three peat mj held probably the most dominant "mental advantage" ever.

[Ainosterhaspie]

Jordan was still in his prime when he led the bulls 2nd three peat.

You dont even understand the definition of the word my friend.

What you're looking for is "peak".
I'd say 96 is fair to consider still prime. 97 is a bit of a stretch. 98 was not. He still was the best player in the league, but he wasn't prime Jordan anymore. For prime you're comparing Jordan to himself, not to anyone else.

[SpaceJammeR]

Shaq just shat on Kome. I would

[PeroAntic]

Yeah Shaq was totally in his prime when he played with Wade and LeBron :rolleyes:
Which was exactly Kobe's point. If Shaq took care of his body as well as he could, his prime wouldn't have been three years.

Both of them are joking anyway. I watched Kobe say that and I knew thats just his sense of humor. By now Shaq knows that, and Kobe knows that Shaq's comments were also in jest. Hell he also always makes jokes about himself not passing the ball.

[RRR3]

Which was exactly Kobe's point. If Shaq took care of his body as well as he could, his prime wouldn't have been three years.

Both of them are joking anyway. I watched Kobe say that and I knew thats just his sense of humor. By now Shaq knows that, and Kobe knows that Shaq's comments were also in jest. Hell he also always makes jokes about himself not passing the ball.
1994-2003 is 3 years?

[Doranku]

:lol Shaq and Kobe respect each other now, but it's obvious some of the bad blood will never fully go away. Shaq definitely got offended by what Kobe said... both guys are right in the premise of what they're saying.

Amusing banter though.

[Kblaze8855]

Sure it does.

And yes he was.

Kobes prime is typically cited as '01 to '10 despite him being a physical shell of himself at the tail end compared to the beginning. Because he had the experience and mental edge end prime.

I have no doubt '98 Jordan would spank '86 Jordan over the course of a long season, given the same help, and ultimately in a series. Hed have a tremendous mental edge that would make up the athleticism gap. Hed lead his teammates better as well.

Like an old slow Dirk beating a peak athletic LeBron... Mental accounts for a ton and 2nd three peat mj held probably the most dominant "mental advantage" ever.



You have no idea what you

[superduper]

Shaq would be Demarcus Cousins without Kobe.

[RRR3]

Shaq would be Demarcus Cousins without Kobe.
Permaban worthy.

[dazzer87]

Shaq would be Demarcus Cousins without Kobe.
gtfoh........:lol

[ralph_i_el]

Shaq placed 2nd in the MVP race playing with wade...

You just exposed yourself.


...and he won a ring too...

[ralph_i_el]

Shaq would be Demarcus Cousins without Kobe.



:facepalm

Kobe would be DeMar Derozen without Shaq and Pau and Phil.

[Uncle Drew]

:facepalm

Kobe would be DeMar Derozen without Shaq and Pau and Phil.
What do you mean ''would be''...?

[superduper]

:facepalm

Kobe would be DeMar Derozen without Shaq and Pau and Phil.

Pau's a good player that knew his role and listened to everything the alpha said but my god this guy gets over rated like crazy :oldlol:

[red1]

zip that shit up. rapist in a BODY BAG.



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[scm5]

[QUOTE=RRR3]Shaq also commented

[Im so nba'd out]

Bodied em...Call the coroner

Just like in the all-time rankings, Shaq ends up above Kobe bean



ether....that shit that makes your soul burn slow

[tpols]

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]You have no idea what you

[Dro]

This is why I hate the internet sometimes. Because people just take a headline and RUN with it. If any of you actually watched the actual interview. You can see Kobe is just having fun. He said this is shit him and Shaq joke about with each other ALL THE TIME.

And Kobe NEVER used the word "lazy" referring to Shaq. Yes, you can imply it, but he didn't call Shaq lazy.

The interview was actually very good...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9GvDekiJ9c

[superduper]

This is why I hate the internet sometimes. Because people just take a headline and RUN with it. If any of you actually watched the actual interview. You can see Kobe is just having fun. He said this is shit him and Shaq joke about with each other ALL THE TIME.

And Kobe NEVER used the word "lazy" referring to Shaq. Yes, you can imply it, but he didn't call Shaq lazy.

The interview was actually very good...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9GvDekiJ9c

Kobe was definitely saying it with a light heart but Shaq got sensitive as always.

[Dro]

Kobe was definitely saying it with a light heart but Shaq got sensitive as always.
Yeah definitely but thats what they do. They go back and forth with each other. The way Shaq responds, yeah in a vacuum it looks super sensitive and I"m sure there's some of that in there but at the end of the day, they're just joking. I'm reading stuff on other forums where people just want them to end this "truce" and get back to fighting. Like how miserable are people? I'm not even a Kobe fan like that either.

[scuzzy]

Yeah definitely but thats what they do. They go back and forth with each other. The way Shaq responds, yeah in a vacuum it looks super sensitive and I"m sure there's some of that in there but at the end of the day, they're just joking. I'm reading stuff on other forums where people just want them to end this "truce" and get back to fighting. Like how miserable are people? I'm not even a Kobe fan like that either.
It's not just Kobe vs Shaq innocent banter though

Kobe has a long resume of publicly bashing current and former teammates. Shaq OTOH, loved by teammates

Real petty things like blamed losing the Nash MVP race on Kwame and Smush. Blamed his failing marriage on Malone. Called Gasol soft after 08 Finals despite getting torched by Pierce. Linsanity, Kubchek, Mike Brown, Scott, on and on

Lets not forget this 2014 tantrum (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcK89DgXC50), where he followed it up by going 1-4 the next 5 games :oldlol:

[Dro]

It's not just Kobe vs Shaq innocent banter though

Kobe has a long resume of publicly bashing current and former teammates. Shaq OTOH, loved by teammates

Real petty things like blamed losing the Nash MVP race on Kwame and Smush. Blamed his failing marriage on Malone. Called Gasol soft after 08 Finals despite getting torched by Pierce. Linsanity, Kubchek, Mike Brown, Scott, on and on

Lets not forget this 2014 tantrum (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcK89DgXC50), where he followed it up by going 1-4 the next 5 games :oldlol:
lol, well got me there. But to be fair, Kobe was basically complimenting Shaq I feel. Saying he'd be the best ever and they would have 12 rings? 7 more than Kobe actually has? Thats giving Shaq a LOT of credit actually IMO. I think you can look at it both ways.

Edit - my math is horrible today. Kobe has 5 rings so 12 rings would actually be 7 more, not 4, lmfao.

[FireDavidKahn]

lol, well got me there. But to be fair, Kobe was basically complimenting Shaq I feel. Saying he'd be the best ever and they would have 12 rings? 4 more than Kobe actually has? Thats giving Shaq a LOT of credit actually IMO. I think you can look at it both ways.
Ya it's quite the compliment when someone says that you didn't work hard enough to be the best when you could have been.:oldlol:

"The only reason you aren't the best is because you didn't work hard enough".

Thanks man!

[Smoke117]

I'm with Kobe on this one. Shaq was a lazy ass and he is the most obnoxious adult man baby in NBA history.

[AirTupac]

Its the best when complete dweebs and non athletes who haven't play a shred of competitive basketball overanalyze what these guys are talking about. 99% of ISH falls into this pathetic category.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I'm with Kobe on this one. Shaq was a lazy ass and he is the most obnoxious adult man baby in NBA history.

Shaq wasn't lying about the 2004 finals...or Kobe shooting the air out of the ball.

But yea. What is Kobe supposed to say? He was asked what Shaq would be if he had his work ethic. Literally.

I think saying Shaq would be GOAT, or "easily the GOAT" is a big compliment.

[Mr Feeny]

Shaq wasn't lying about the 2004 finals...or Kobe shooting the air out of the ball.

But yea. What is Kobe supposed to say? He was asked what Shaq would be if he had his work ethic. Literally.

I think saying Shaq would be GOAT, or "easily the GOAT" is a big compliment.

Implying that they would have won more had Shaq worked harder and that it was shaq' fault that they didn't is not a compliment. Especially when the reason they didn't win in some of those years was Kobe' subpar play, when Shaq showed up and dominated.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Implying that they would have won more had Shaq worked harder and that it was shaq' fault that they didn't is not a compliment. Especially when the reason they didn't win in some of those years was Kobe' subpar play, when Shaq showed up and dominated.

You don't think LA wins more if Shaq had Kobe's work ethic?

[Mr Feeny]

You don't think LA wins more if Shaq had Kobe's work ethic?

I think they win more if Kobe passed more. Or was a better player so as to provide Shaq with more help than 38% shooting in a finals against a team they're expected to beat.

Even doesn't matter though. This isnt the argument. Suggesting that the dig at Shaq was a compliment is disingenuous. It was a sneaky attempt to to take a shot by a narcissist with a long history of taking shots at teammates publically. And he's backtracking now that he was embarrassed by Shaq.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I think they win more if Kobe passed more. Or was a better player so as to provide Shaq with more help than 38% shooting in a finals against a team they're expected to beat.

Even doesn't matter though. This isnt the argument. Suggesting that the dig at Shaq was a compliment is disingenuous. It was a sneaky attempt to to take a shot by a narcissist with a long history of taking shots at teammates publically. And he's backtracking now that he was embarrassed by Shaq.

That's not what I asked.

I'll repeat the question again.

Do you think they win more if Shaq had Kobe's work ethic?

What's more, the reporter asked Kobe the question. And Kobe answered honestly. Shaq's work ethic was poor and he was lazy. That isn't a "dig" at Shaq. Or anyone confident in their abilities.

That being said? 12 rings is a stretch. Kobe saying that is absurd. Whether you interpret that as Kobe putting full onus on Shaq, well, is your interpretation.

[GimmeThat]

this is a Scottie Pippen versus Grant Hill debate, in which Hill got to the line more frequently

[Mr Feeny]

That's not what I asked.

I'll repeat the question again.

Do you think they win more if Shaq had Kobe's work ethic?

What's more, the reporter asked Kobe the question. And Kobe answered honestly. Shaq's work ethic was poor and he was lazy. That isn't a "dig" at Shaq. Or anyone confident in their abilities.

That being said? 12 rings is a stretch. Kobe saying that is absurd. Whether you interpret that as Kobe putting full onus on Shaq, well, is your interpretation.

Who must be confused. I don't care what you asked. I just told you that your question is irrelevant. That isnt what we are discussing. There are lots of reasons that the Lakers didnt win more. Chief amongst them was Kobe letting Shaq down by being a bad teammate and chucking at an alarmingly low rate while refusing the pass the ball, as Shaq pointed out.

But that isn't the argument. This is about whether throwing that shot at Shaq was a compliment or a dig. If you choose to interpret it as a compliment, that's your prerogative. Almost everyone else disagrees. Publically saying that they would have won 12 titles if not for shaq's poor worth ethic isn't responding honestly. And was sneaky.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Who must be confused. I don't care what you asked. I just told you that your question is irrelevant. That isnt what we are discussing. There are lots of reasons that the Lakers didnt win more. Chief amongst them was Kobe letting Shaq down by being a bad teammate and chucking at an alarmingly low rate while refusing the pass the ball, as Shaq pointed out.

But that isn't the argument. This is about whether throwing that shot at Shaq was a compliment or a dig. If you choose to interpret it as a compliment, that's your prerogative. Almost everyone else disagrees. Publically saying that they would have won 12 titles if not for shaq's poor worth ethic isn't responding honestly. And was sneaky.

Except that is what we're discussing

Why?

Because that is what Kobe responded with.

Now answer the question and quit being a ***** about it.

Again, implying they would've won more titles is not a "dig". Kobe is practically saying he would've been Shaq's wingman, hence deferring to Shaq as GOAT.

[SouBeachTalents]

Except that is what we're discussing

Why?

Because that is what Kobe responded with.

Now answer the question and quit being a ***** about it.

Again, implying they would've won more titles is not a "dig". Kobe is practically saying he would've been Shaq's wingman, hence deferring to Shaq as GOAT.

If you weren't such a knob, you would've already picked up on that.
There's a few issues I have with the "Shaq/Kobe left titles on the table" argument.

One would be, even as infamously and self-admittedly lazy as Shaq was, he was still elite for a really long time, through at least those first 1 or 2 years in Miami. Dude was still putting up 19/8 a night even at 33-34 years old, something only a handful of big men have done. I don't dispute he could've been even better, but I just don't see a substantial difference in his play/production had he even put in better effort to keep himself in shape.

The biggest issue though is, the two of them just did not like each other :lol Granted, Shaq keeping in better shape would have squashed some of the beef they had, but by '04 they had so many issues, a lot of them stemming from off the court shit like Kobe's trial, that Shaq could've been Jordan like in his off season routine and I don't think it would've made much of a difference. If they could've worked out their differences AND Shaq stayed in shape, you really give them more than 1 title together after '04?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

There's a few issues I have with the "Shaq/Kobe left titles on the table" argument.

One would be, even as infamously and self-admittedly lazy as Shaq was, he was still elite for a really long time, through at least those first 1 or 2 years in Miami. Dude was still putting up 19/8 a night even at 33-34 years old, something only a handful of big men have done. I don't dispute he could've been even better, but I just don't see a substantial difference in his play/production had he even put in better effort to keep himself in shape.

The biggest issue though is, the two of them just did not like each other :lol Granted, Shaq keeping in better shape would have squashed some of the beef they had, but by '04 they had so many issues, a lot of them stemming from off the court shit like Kobe's trial, that Shaq could've been Jordan like in his off season routine and I don't think it would've made much of a difference. If they could've worked out their differences AND Shaq stayed in shape, you really give them more than 1 title together after '04?

How many titles do you think LA would win if Shaq had Kobe's work ethic?

From 97 until his retirement.

Its a hypothetical, but its Kobe's hypothetical. And one where he's playing with the "GOAT".

[SouBeachTalents]

How many titles do you think LA would win if Shaq had Kobe's work ethic?

From 97 until his retirement.

Its a hypothetical, but its Kobe's hypothetical. And one where he's playing with the "GOAT".
You really think they failed to win pre 2000 due to Shaq's work ethic? Just seemed to me Shaq didn't have a truly championship caliber team in place. I don't think it's a coincidence he didn't win until Kobe became elite and Phil took over as head coach.

I don't see much of a change in the result, the Lakers lost so convincingly those 3 years I really don't see Shaq's work ethic being a real difference maker in the outcome of those series

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

You really think they failed to win pre 2000 due to Shaq's work ethic? Just seemed to me Shaq didn't have a truly championship caliber team in place. I don't think it's a coincidence he didn't win until Kobe became elite and Phil took over as head coach.

I don't see much of a change in the result, the Lakers lost so convincingly those 3 years I really don't see Shaq's work ethic being a real difference maker in the outcome of those series

No.

I am asking what Kobe implied. Or said rather.

Personally? I could see LA winning a few more. One would definitely be 2003. I think a healthier, more motivated Shaq would've had a better series against Duncan and an old-ass Robinson.

Turf Toe Shaq...was fat and out of shape.

So yeah, 2003. Maybe another title or two from 2005-2010. Wouldn't bet on it though. All of that is assuming LA never gets Pau either.

[SouBeachTalents]

No.

I am asking what Kobe implied. Or said rather.

Personally? I could see LA winning a few more. One would definitely be 2003. I think a healthier, more motivated Shaq would've had a better series against Duncan and an old-ass Robinson.

Turf Toe Shaq...was fat and out of shape.

So yeah, 2003. Maybe another title or two from 2005-2010. Wouldn't bet on it though. All of that is assuming LA never gets Pau either.
Shaq still played pretty damn well in '03, I feel like he honestly held his own against peak Duncan for the majority of that series. To me that year just felt like one where their luck finally ran out. After Horry's 3 saved them in '02, his 3 that year just rimmed out. That shot goes in, the Lakers could've easily won that series and maybe even another title.

They'd certainly be in title contention '05-'07 with a better maintained Shaq, but like I said before, I don't see a big man in his mid 30's playing THAT much better than Shaq did while Miami was in title contention with him, so you want to give the Lakers another title or two, I certainly wouldn't disagree with you.

What I think's left out of this discussion, is that Shaq could've easily lost in his absolute peak season in 2000, and honestly should've lost in '02 still very close to his peak form, which is why I honestly don't think the Lakers roll off 5-6+ titles if Shaq stays in shape

[Mr Feeny]

Except that is what we're discussing

Why?

Because that is what Kobe responded with.

Now answer the question and quit being a ***** about it.

Again, implying they would've won more titles is not a "dig". Kobe is practically saying he would've been Shaq's wingman, hence deferring to Shaq as GOAT.

Hey numb nuts. My finding your question irrelevant has nothing to do with being a "pus" .
Now quit crying and address the thread topic. To say that its Shaq's fault that they didn't win 12 is a dig, as I said.


Do I need to dumb anything down for you any more? Let me know.

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This is why I hate the internet sometimes. Because people just take a headline and RUN with it. If any of you actually watched the actual interview. You can see Kobe is just having fun. He said this is shit him and Shaq joke about with each other ALL THE TIME.

And Kobe NEVER used the word "lazy" referring to Shaq. Yes, you can imply it, but he didn't call Shaq lazy.

The interview was actually very good...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9GvDekiJ9c

Look at the dude who made this thread. He's legit INVESTED in Kobe's public perception on a creepy level.

Dude talking about this shit like it's some sort of soap opera. The obsession Kobe's haters have with him is disturbing.

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Lol. Scuzzy, Southbeachtalents, and RRR3 in this thread. Imagine that...

None of these guys were watching basketball pre-2010, but finding comfort in psycho-analyzing a multi-millionaire. :lol

If you're entertaining either of these clowns, you're a part of the problem.
Let the nerds be nerds and leave basketball discussion out of this Kobe-obsessed circle-jerk.

Kobe & Shaq are playing around but RRR3 and Southbeachtalents are legitimately invested in this back and forth high middle school catholic girls.

Why bother?

[NBAGOAT]

shaq's petty enough where this is 25% serious lol. I wanna say like 1-3 extra rings(05-06 being the obvious candidates). Kobe's point is understood but obviously he's going with hyperbole for emphasis. Shaq felt slightly insulted and had to throw in a cheap shot like he was talking with charles :oldlol:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Hey numb nuts. My finding your question irrelevant has nothing to do with being a "pus" .
Now quit crying and address the thread topic. To say that its Shaq's fault that they didn't win 12 is a dig, as I said.


Do I need to dumb anything down for you any more? Let me know.

You're one goofy motherfukker.

The question IS relevant to what Kobe said. And what Kobe said IS the topic.

You'd rather sidestep the question though. You're terrified to admit what Kobe said had validity :oldlol: Go ahead and claim the topic is "irrelevant" again. Come on, halfwit. I know you want to.

[superduper]

Ya it's quite the compliment when someone says that you didn't work hard enough to be the best when you could have been.:oldlol:

"The only reason you aren't the best is because you didn't work hard enough".

Thanks man!

This is easily a compliment to Shaq lol wtf. Not sure how you take it any other way.

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWqLxwJ1jZA

[Mr Feeny]

You're one goofy motherfukker.

The question IS relevant to what Kobe said. And what Kobe said IS the topic.

You'd rather sidestep the question though. You're terrified to admit what Kobe said had validity :oldlol: Go ahead and claim the topic is "irrelevant" again. Come on, halfwit. I know you want to.

Are you a child? Do I need to repeat something a million times so that you can comprehend something so basic?

[Overdrive]

You don't think LA wins more if Shaq had Kobe's work ethic?

Not really, I don't see alot of chances. Shaq played very very good to great playoff basketball from '98 to '04.

Maybe they could've 5 peated, but Shaq's not at fault in '04. By '03 already Kobe thought he should lead the Lakers and he just wasn't ready for that as evidenced in '05 and '06.

Also the Kobe won more sans Shaq than the other way around is so incredibly lame. Shaq played most of his prime and his absolute peak with Kobe, so even if he won more during his prime it would've also meant Kobe would've won.

If Shaq 8 peated in LA and had 8 FMVPs, but only the '06 Finals other than that and Kobe's post Shaq resume still stands, you Kobe guys would still use that stupid argument.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Are you a child? Do I need to repeat something a million times so that you can comprehend something so basic?

I wont stop you from being a repetitive ****. You've doing a good job of that already.

Wont make the question less relevant though.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Not really, I don't see alot of chances. Shaq played very very good to great playoff basketball from '98 to '04.

Maybe they could've 5 peated, but Shaq's not at fault in '04. By '03 already Kobe thought he should lead the Lakers and he just wasn't ready for that as evidenced in '05 and '06.

Also the Kobe won more sans Shaq than the other way around is so incredibly lame. Shaq played most of his prime and his absolute peak with Kobe, so even if he won more during his prime it would've also meant Kobe would've won.

If Shaq 8 peated in LA and had 8 FMVPs, but only the '06 Finals other than that and Kobe's post Shaq resume still stands, you Kobe guys would still use that stupid argument.

Well for one, I'm not a "Kobe guy".

Secondly... That isn't my argument. The question is Kobe's response in the video. I've mentioned already that I think LA wins one MAYBE 2 rings. And that's with the so-called GOAT.

Kobe pretending they would be Russell's Celtics is laughable.

[Overdrive]

Well for one, I'm not a "Kobe guy".

Secondly... That isn't my argument. The question is Kobe's response in the video. I've mentioned already that I think LA wins one MAYBE 2 rings. And that's with the so-called GOAT.

Kobe pretending they would be Russell's Celtics is laughable.

tpols made the "sans-sans" argument. The 1st two paragraphs are directed at your quote.

[RRR3]

New post from Shaq

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1xgOaHFlOM/?igshid=1ofjhhacvxz9n

[LAmbruh]

New post from Shaq

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1xgOaHFlOM/?igshid=1ofjhhacvxz9n


https://i.postimg.cc/85TsG3m8/dfgjhdhdhdfg.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/0NYrLxmd/dfhdhdfhdf.png (https://postimages.org/)


NBA f*ckers be stealing our content :biggums: :biggums::biggums:

[sick_brah07]

two alpha males so driven to be the best they cant let go of shit from 20 years ago

i love ittt

[Doranku]

Shaq is so sensitive :lol

[Mr Feeny]

I wont stop you from being a repetitive ****. You've doing a good job of that already.

Wont make the question less relevant though.

Ah here's the C word, from a frustrated mid. Repeating it ad-infinitum won't make it any more relevant. Now, go cry in some corner of you can't address the argument.

[Mr Feeny]

Well for one, I'm not a "Kobe guy".

Secondly... That isn't my argument. The question is Kobe's response in the video. I've mentioned already that I think LA wins one MAYBE 2 rings. And that's with the so-called GOAT.

Kobe pretending they would be Russell's Celtics is laughable.

It isn't. The thread is about Shaq correctly pointing out that they would have won more had Kobe passed more, which you predictably sidestepped. And the main argument is whether Kobe's original point was a shot. Again, predictable.

I educated you in 2016 that Lebron was better than Kobe as a player and you were as obstuse and intransigent then as you are now. Yet after the finals in 2016, you admitted you were wrong all along. Learn from history.