Let's let the money talk - here's how far lebron is behind MJ, and ahead of KD

[3ball]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-29-2019/tHTmsB.gif

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2019/08/28/the-nbas-richest-shoe-deals-lebron-kobe-and-durant-are-still-no-match-for-michael-jordan/amp/


^^^ This is how lebron's basketball game should be looked at too

[SouBeachTalents]

Zion confirmed top 7 GOAT

[3ball]

Zion confirmed top 7 GOAT
He's the only guy in there based on hype and not results

The others have results that those numbers are tied to, so those rankings are a proxy for their true ranking relative to each other

[bullettooth]

Zion confirmed top 7 GOAT

No no, he needs to lose 6 finals to be in that conversation.

[Overdrive]

He's the only guy in there based on hype and not results

The others have results that those numbers are tied to, so those rankings are a proxy for their true ranking relative to each other

So MJ played against one other top 10 guy?

[FKAri]

He's the only guy in there based on hype and not results

The others have results that those numbers are tied to, so those rankings are a proxy for their true ranking relative to each other
This is show business. Everybody on that list is there because of hype.

[3ball]

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BEST PLAYERS LEBRON EVER FACED, AND HOW MJ DID





1) SHAQ



Top Lebron moments:



2004-2006 were the only years of Lebron's career where Shaq had some prime left - during those years, Lebron finished behind Shaq in MVP voting (2004 and 2005), and lost the conference to him (2005 and 2006).. Lebron never dunked on him.




Top Jordan moments:



Jordan won MVP over prime Shaq in 1996 and 1998 and swept Shaq in 1996 ECF.. He also dunked on him, shown here (http://i.makeagif.com/media/7-10-2015/LfHlds.gif).




2. KOBE:



Top Lebron moments:



- Lebron watched Kobe win more championships during the time that both were in their prime, and also watched Kobe save the team in the 2008 Olympics.

- He missed the much-anticipated, Kobe/Lebron matchup in 2009 and 2010 Finals, because his top-seeded team underachieved by losing to lower seeds in earlier rounds.




Top Jordan moments:



- MJ dunked on Kobe in their first ever possession vs. each other, shown here (http://i.makeagif.com/media/12-13-2015/Q3fm0o.gif)

- MJ showed his protege how it's done by hitting the game-winner in the first game of the 1997 Finals, after Kobe had airballed 4 straight game-winner attempts against the same team earlier in the playoffs.

- MJ passed the torch to his protoge in the 1998 all-star game by scoring on him at will (5 times in head-to-head possessions, shown here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN3sto7KGQs&t=0m16s)).




3. DUNCAN



Top Lebron moments:



- Lebron missed the infamous game-tying 3-pointer and needed Ray Allen to save him




Top Jordan moments:



- Jordan MADE his game-tying 3-pointer from the exact same spot during his first meeting with Duncan/Popovich in 1998 (the shot is shown here (http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-05-2015/rP-QUs.gif))... Then he dominated the OT, including 2 dunks over Duncan, shown here (https://media.giphy.com/media/26FPq7nUqs2V8LyNO/giphy.gif)..

Later in that 1998 season, Jordan won the Finals against the team (Jazz) that destroyed Duncan's Spurs in WCF 2nd Round (Duncan/Robinson/Popovich's Spurs won 56 games in RS).




4. GARNETT:



Top Lebron moments:



- Lebron got his shit pushed in during 2008 and 2010 ECSF




Top Jordan moments:



- Jordan schooled Garnett in the 1998 all-star game (shown here (http://i.makeagif.com/media/10-30-2015/q8-1iR.gif)) and during the regular season (shown here (http://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2015/6agjm-.gif), here (http://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2015/EfFINb.gif) and here (http://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2015/Jp9ACT.gif)).

- The only time where MJ and Garnett were matched up defensively for an entire game was during a 2002 contest - both were matched up at SF, and 38-year old Jordan scored 35 on Garnett in every way imagineable, including various blow-by dunks and layups, shown here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmngcHYnfN0).




5. SHAWN MARION:



Top Lebron moments:



- Lebron got locked down by OLD Shawn Marion during the 2011 Finals, which was one of the greatest chokes ever by a star in the Finals.




Top Jordan moments:



- 38-year old Jordan hit the game-winner in PRIME Shawn Marion's face during a contest in 2002 (shown here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjo06p5zchg&t=0m09s)), and then destroyed him for 41 points in another contest (shown here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd9ayPlqCMg)).




6. 2003-2004 seasons



JORDAN 2003: 19.3 PER.. 20.0 ppg.. 44.5 fg
LEBRON 2004: 18.3 PER.. 20.9 ppg.. 41.7 fg

[3ball]

So MJ played against one other top 10 guy?
The prime of his career ended in 98', only 5 years before Lebron entered the league, so they played against a lot of the same guys

the previous post shows that MJ destroyed most of the best guys lebron ever faced.. :lebronamazed:

[Manny98]

OP you realize that by making all these threads your only propping LeBron

The fact that you only compare LeBron to MJ proves that LeBron is a serious threat to your idols GOAT status otherwise you wouldn't need to do this

[egokiller]

No no, he needs to lose 6 finals to be in that conversation.

:roll:

Such is the definition of modern day GOAT.

What a joke...

[Spurs m8]

Jordan literally has his own successful shoes and clothing brand.

LeRoid could only ever dream of that.

Hell, LeRoid will barely be spoken of in 20 years

[KobesFinger]

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BEST PLAYERS LEBRON EVER FACED, AND HOW MJ DID





1) SHAQ



Top Lebron moments:



2004-2006 were the only years of Lebron's career where Shaq had some prime left - during those years, Lebron finished behind Shaq in MVP voting (2004 and 2005), and lost the conference to him (2005 and 2006).. Lebron never dunked on him.




Top Jordan moments:



Jordan won MVP over prime Shaq in 1996 and 1998 and swept Shaq in 1996 ECF.. He also dunked on him, shown here (http://i.makeagif.com/media/7-10-2015/LfHlds.gif).




2. KOBE:



Top Lebron moments:



- Lebron watched Kobe win more championships during the time that both were in their prime, and also watched Kobe save the team in the 2008 Olympics.

- He missed the much-anticipated, Kobe/Lebron matchup in 2009 and 2010 Finals, because his top-seeded team underachieved by losing to lower seeds in earlier rounds.




Top Jordan moments:



- MJ dunked on Kobe in their first ever possession vs. each other, shown here (http://i.makeagif.com/media/12-13-2015/Q3fm0o.gif)

- MJ showed his protege how it's done by hitting the game-winner in the first game of the 1997 Finals, after Kobe had airballed 4 straight game-winner attempts against the same team earlier in the playoffs.

- MJ passed the torch to his protoge in the 1998 all-star game by scoring on him at will (5 times in head-to-head possessions, shown here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN3sto7KGQs&t=0m16s)).




3. DUNCAN



Top Lebron moments:



- Lebron missed the infamous game-tying 3-pointer and needed Ray Allen to save him




Top Jordan moments:



- Jordan MADE his game-tying 3-pointer from the exact same spot during his first meeting with Duncan/Popovich in 1998 (the shot is shown here (http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-05-2015/rP-QUs.gif))... Then he dominated the OT, including 2 dunks over Duncan, shown here (https://media.giphy.com/media/26FPq7nUqs2V8LyNO/giphy.gif)..

Later in that 1998 season, Jordan won the Finals against the team (Jazz) that destroyed Duncan's Spurs in WCF 2nd Round (Duncan/Robinson/Popovich's Spurs won 56 games in RS).




4. GARNETT:



Top Lebron moments:



- Lebron got his shit pushed in during 2008 and 2010 ECSF




Top Jordan moments:



- Jordan schooled Garnett in the 1998 all-star game (shown here (http://i.makeagif.com/media/10-30-2015/q8-1iR.gif)) and during the regular season (shown here (http://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2015/6agjm-.gif), here (http://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2015/EfFINb.gif) and here (http://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2015/Jp9ACT.gif)).

- The only time where MJ and Garnett were matched up defensively for an entire game was during a 2002 contest - both were matched up at SF, and 38-year old Jordan scored 35 on Garnett in every way imagineable, including various blow-by dunks and layups, shown here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmngcHYnfN0).




5. SHAWN MARION:



Top Lebron moments:



- Lebron got locked down by OLD Shawn Marion during the 2011 Finals, which was one of the greatest chokes ever by a star in the Finals.




Top Jordan moments:



- 38-year old Jordan hit the game-winner in PRIME Shawn Marion's face during a contest in 2002 (shown here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjo06p5zchg&t=0m09s)), and then destroyed him for 41 points in another contest (shown here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd9ayPlqCMg)).




6. 2003-2004 seasons



JORDAN 2003: 19.3 PER.. 20.0 ppg.. 44.5 fg
LEBRON 2004: 18.3 PER.. 20.9 ppg.. 41.7 fg

KEVIN DURANT

TOP LEBRON MOMENTS

- Beat Durant and the Thunder in 2012 Finals
- Beat Durant to 2 MVPs
- Inspired Durant to form a superteam by taking his talents elsewhere

TOP JORDAN MOMENTS

- Too shook to ever think about facing Durant

See, I can be obnoxious too

[3ball]

KEVIN DURANT

TOP LEBRON MOMENTS

- Beat Durant and the Thunder in 2012 Finals
- Beat Durant to 2 MVPs
- Inspired Durant to form a superteam by taking his talents elsewhere

TOP JORDAN MOMENTS

- Too shook to ever think about facing Durant

See, I can be obnoxious too
I said MJ dominated most of the best players lebron ever faced (Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, Garnett)

And it doesn't matter because Magic/Bird > Durant

MJ beat Magic, and set the playoff record on Bird - heck, his 63 against Bird would rank as the most legendary thing in Lebron's career, or 2nd most. .. :roll:... :yaohappy:

[FromDowntown]

OP you realize that by making all these threads your only propping LeBron

The fact that you only compare LeBron to MJ proves that LeBron is a serious threat to your idols GOAT status otherwise you wouldn't need to do this

He'll never understand this and it pisses me off. Let the Kobe and Jordan comparisons in but ignore the LeBron ones.

[bigkingsfan]

his 63 against Bird would rank as the most legendary thing in Lebron's career, or 2nd most. .. :roll:... :yaohappy:
In a game they lost and in a series they got swept. :roll:

[ClipperRevival]

The One.

[PWB15]

cant be compared to MJ since he left his teams three times after failure