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TheMan
09-01-2019, 06:18 AM
Yet another shooting and hardly anyone bats an eye...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/01/us/odessa-texas-shooting-sunday/index.html

White fam, hold yet another L :facepalm

Patrick Chewing
09-01-2019, 07:10 AM
It

Meticode
09-01-2019, 07:42 AM
Race has nothing to almost ever do with it. It almost makes me laugh when stuff like this comes out at work and the first thing people want to know is the shooter's race. When mental health is the bigger culprit.

LAmbruh
09-01-2019, 07:52 AM
white. check
mid 30's. check
red state. check
Trump supporter. check
unmotive random killings. check


Surely at least one sovereign citizen living in that gun brandish state was there to de-escalate the situation with his firearm? Lets check


- pulled over on sidestreet, shot at cops
- drove onto highway shooting random drivers
- highjacked postal truck, ditched Honda
- shooting at more randoms on way into Odessa
- finally gunned down in movie theatre parking as he tried to spray movie goers

Wow, that whole 30 min timeline and not ONE strapped Texan pulled up to confront him or protect their family? Muh whole purpose for 2nd mendmant doe. 21 injured, 5 dead, including 17 month old

"crime happens" :oldlol::cletus:

LAmbruh
09-01-2019, 07:59 AM
Race has nothing to almost ever do with it. It almost makes me laugh when stuff like this comes out at work and the first thing people want to know is the shooter's race. When mental health is the bigger culprit.
how come minority crimes never get the mental health and vidya games card?


black man does this he's just a drug dealing 'savage'

Shogon
09-01-2019, 08:08 AM
how come minority crimes never get the mental health and vidya games card?


black man does this he's just a drug dealing 'savage'

Your trolling aside, you could probably provide the public with a fascinating case study on mental health.

You are the least mentally healthy person I

Vino24
09-01-2019, 08:37 AM
[QUOTE=Shogon]Your trolling aside, you could probably provide the public with a fascinating case study on mental health.

You are the least mentally healthy person I

Shogon
09-01-2019, 09:07 AM
Says the guy who bought a druggie lowlife b-ball tickets because he wanted to be entertained :rolleyes:

I

Vino24
09-01-2019, 09:18 AM
[QUOTE=Shogon]I

diamenz
09-01-2019, 09:21 AM
[QUOTE=Shogon]I

egokiller
09-01-2019, 09:33 AM
Says the guy who bought a druggie lowlife b-ball tickets because he wanted to be entertained :rolleyes:

You just proved his point. He did a nice gesture for someone and your mentally unstable ass is somehow trying to twist that into a negative.

TheMan
09-01-2019, 10:43 AM
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]It

PickernRoller
09-01-2019, 10:43 AM
Someone's envious of stalker taking advantage of an easy mark.... :oldlol: :oldlol:

Real juicy stuff is going down in Southern Lebanon right now. Mass shooting at home is sadly old news.

moongaze
09-01-2019, 10:50 AM
Crackers on ish-"but...but...but, what about all the crime in Chicago? "

:facepalm at crackers comparing shootings between gang members/drug dealers/criminals to innoce t people getting mowed down by whiteboys aka the devil.

highwhey
09-01-2019, 11:02 AM
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]It

warriorfan
09-01-2019, 11:26 AM
Your trolling aside, you could probably provide the public with a fascinating case study on mental health.

You are the least mentally healthy person I’ve ever come across on the internet and I’ve been online for 27 years.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

True

andgar923
09-01-2019, 12:04 PM
Race has nothing to almost ever do with it. It almost makes me laugh when stuff like this comes out at work and the first thing people want to know is the shooter's race. When mental health is the bigger culprit.
Have you wondered why that is???

Lakers Legend#32
09-01-2019, 05:02 PM
It's Trump's Murica.
Unless 30 or more people are gunned down now it's not even a blip on the radar screen.

MaxFly
09-01-2019, 06:27 PM
The shooting happened hours before a series of firearm laws go into effect in Texas, where four of the 10 deadliest mass shootings in modern US history have happened.

The new measures will loosen gun restrictions and allow weapons on school grounds, apartments and places of worship.

Looks like Texas is immediately safer today.

tpols
09-01-2019, 07:18 PM
its hard to take seriously a guy moralizing whose from a country where cartel's violently enforce the law through bombings, shootings, burning you alive in a barrell, etc.

warriorfan
09-01-2019, 07:26 PM
its hard to take seriously a guy moralizing whose from a country where cartel's violently enforce the law through bombings, shootings, burning you alive in a barrell, etc.

op is like tomtucker if you replaced Muslims with America

TheMan
09-01-2019, 09:51 PM
its hard to take seriously a guy moralizing whose from a country where cartel's violently enforce the law through bombings, shootings, burning you alive in a barrell, etc.
No idea what one thing has to do with the other...as a US citizen living abroad, do I not have the right to opine on what's happening in the country I was born in? FOH mayne.

And cartel violence happens between cartel members, they usually do not target the citizenry, cartel members know going in that in their business, getting killed is a very likely outcome so there is a rhyme and reason to our violence (money). So in the case of most US mass shootings, can you explain to me exactly why these people died? Wrong place, wrong time? Do you know the odds of someone dying in a mass shooting? I believe Shogon is always harping on about this point, but guess what, those people who were killed also had those long odds in their favor and now they're dead, so what do we tell their next of kin? Sorry but your loved one won the shit sandwhich lottery and he had to take a huge bite?

These random senseless mass shootings are much worse IMO because unlike our cartel violence, these people weren't thugs, just ordinary folk minding their own business until some white jackass cut them done...and for what???

The price of freedom?

:facepalm

Mask the Embiid
09-01-2019, 09:58 PM
Racial tension has been through the roof since Trump got elected...Country legit is more racist now than it was 20 years ago....crazy

LAmbruh
09-01-2019, 10:12 PM
Racial tension has been through the roof since Trump got elected...Country legit is more racist now than it was 20 years ago....crazy
get out and vote

it's crucial that everyone's fully aware this mistake can never happen again

MaxFly
09-03-2019, 08:02 PM
Texas shooter evaded background check by purchasing weapon in private sale

The 36-year-old gunman who killed seven people and wounded 22 others in West Texas on Saturday purchased his AR-style rifle from a private seller, federal law enforcement sources confirmed to CBS News. The purchase allowed the gunman to evade a federal background check. Sources also say the gunman was previously denied a gun purchase because he was determined to be mentally unfit.

:facepalm

Perhaps we should close that loophole, now?

Patrick Chewing
09-03-2019, 08:36 PM
Not this type of random and senseless violence, I know its hard for you Trumptards but stop being an idiot.


That's just not true. There is less violence and less gun violence than ever before.


You don't seem like a very young guy, but the youth of today is so naive and ignorant on American history. You base your opinions from what you see on your Twitter feed.

rufuspaul
09-04-2019, 09:50 AM
It's Trump's Murica.
Unless 30 or more people are gunned down now it's not even a blip on the radar screen.


These types of shootings happened under Obama, Bush and Clinton too.


I'm curious too why no one else packing tried to shoot back. I thought the reason Texas has such ridiculously lax gun laws was so people could protect themselves. :confusedshrug:

rufuspaul
09-04-2019, 09:52 AM
:facepalm

Perhaps we should close that loophole, now?


If you do that the commies win. I seriously agree here. It's insane.

DaHeezy
09-04-2019, 10:04 AM
When the narrative is blame Trump when a mass shooting occurs it does become less interesting

Patrick Chewing
09-04-2019, 10:23 AM
:facepalm

Perhaps we should close that loophole, now?


How is that a loophole? And if ever implemented, how you would enforce it?


Again, all this does is infringe upon the millions of legal gun owners who follow and obey the law.

egokiller
09-04-2019, 10:30 AM
How is that a loophole? And if ever implemented, how you would enforce it?


Again, all this does is infringe upon the millions of legal gun owners who follow and obey the law.

The article should clearly state that the gun was purchased from a private seller illegally but that would require the editor to actually be good at their job. :oldlol:

TheMan
09-04-2019, 11:44 AM
When the narrative is blame Trump when a mass shooting occurs it does become less interesting
Right on cue, defending Trump like a jealous gf :oldlol:

Me, I never blamed Trump, this shit has been happening for a while now, before he came into office. My point is that American society is becoming desensitized to mass shootings because they happen so often. You've be here long enough to see that its even happening here in this forum too, a mass shooting used to get us talking about what solutions we could apply and threads would go on for pages. The more recent threads are becoming shorter because mass shootings are becoming normalized. Media coverage the same. Its all a reflection of America just getting used to this...and its not acceptable :confusedshrug:

Mass shooting happens...
White suspect killed or captured...
Less coverage because it happens so often...
Blame it on mental problems but do nothing...
Half-assed debate on solutions...
Thoughts and prayers...
Rinse and repeat...

:facepalm

DaHeezy
09-04-2019, 12:16 PM
Right on cue, defending Trump like a jealous gf :oldlol:

Me, I never blamed Trump, this shit has been happening for a while now, before he came into office. My point is that American society is becoming desensitized to mass shootings because they happen so often. You've be here long enough to see that its even happening here in this forum too, a mass shooting used to get us talking about what solutions we could apply and threads would go on for pages. The more recent threads are becoming shorter because mass shootings are becoming normalized. Media coverage the same. Its all a reflection of America just getting used to this...and its not acceptable :confusedshrug:

Mass shooting happens...
White suspect killed or captured...
Less coverage because it happens so often...
Blame it on mental problems but do nothing...
Half-assed debate on solutions...
Thoughts and prayers...
Rinse and repeat...

:facepalm

This is why you can't speak to over sensitive Trump haters. :facepalm

It's the truth. The mass shootings end up being an anti-Trump narrative. How can the rest of the world be empathetic when the media flips it into a Trump bashing session. We've moved on. Obviously you haven't with your reaction

TheMan
09-04-2019, 02:30 PM
This is why you can't speak to over sensitive Trump haters. :facepalm

It's the truth. The mass shootings end up being an anti-Trump narrative. How can the rest of the world be empathetic when the media flips it into a Trump bashing session. We've moved on. Obviously you haven't with your reaction
Seriously, is English different in Canada than what we speak in the US?

Your talking about my reaction, please point to where I have blamed Trump for the mass shootings? And no, I'm not seeing the anti-Trump reaction, except for a few posters here, whenever there's a mass shooting. I will repeat, this has been happening well before Trump. I just find it curious that you ALWAYS feel the need to jump to Trump's defense on everything. I don't blame him for everything wrong in the US, you apparently believe everyone blames him for everything since you're so sensitive about Trump getting the blame for anything. :confusedshrug:

DaHeezy
09-04-2019, 02:39 PM
Seriously, is English different in Canada than what we speak in the US?

Your talking about my reaction, please point to where I have blamed Trump for the mass shootings? And no, I'm not seeing the anti-Trump reaction, except for a few posters here, whenever there's a mass shooting. I will repeat, this has been happening well before Trump. I just find it curious that you ALWAYS feel the need to jump to Trump's defense on everything. I don't blame him for everything wrong in the US, you apparently believe everyone blames him for everything since you're so sensitive about Trump getting the blame for anything. :confusedshrug:

You're first response was thinking I was defending Trump like a jealous ex-gf? :confusedshrug:

All I did was give you the perspective of the rest of the world. And to the rest of the world and how the media always presents it is blame Trump. You went and did what typical American libs do and accuse me of being a Trump defender.

Sorry for bringing an outside perspective. But you did exactly what I posted and projected me as a Trump supporter

TheMan
09-04-2019, 02:52 PM
You're first response was thinking I was defending Trump like a jealous ex-gf? :confusedshrug:

All I did was give you the perspective of the rest of the world. And to the rest of the world and how the media always presents it is blame Trump. You went and did what typical American libs do and accuse me of being a Trump defender.

Sorry for bringing an outside perspective. But you did exactly what I posted and projected me as a Trump supporter

To be brutally honest, Trump does deserve some measure of blame (not all obviously), just as Obama, GWB and Clinton before him for not doing enough about the mass shootings. Mass shootings have gotten worse in the last few years, and his response was video games :facepalm A leader gets credit and blame...now I never blamed Trump entirely because as I have said, this has been happening well before he became POTUS.

So let me ask you directly, Trump shouldn't get NONE of the blame? You don't ascribe to the "buck stops here" philosophy? You don't believe a president should lead in finding solutions to a nation's ills? These mass shootings don't happen in other first world nation's, not even close so don't tell me it's normal.

I also bring a perspective from outside, I live outside of the US and I don't see all this supposed Trump is to blame narrative you're talking about. The international media points out that these incidents have been happening for years now but they are becoming more frequent, that's a fact.

Patrick Chewing
09-04-2019, 02:57 PM
TheMan has a short memory and a clear case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

What blame should be placed at Trump's feet? He isn't the one doing the shooting. And did he not ban bump stocks after the shooting in Las Vegas?


Trump has been the only President in recent memory to be tough on guns as he already has. Trust me, he pisses off a lot of his voters when he talks about banning certain weapons or limiting magazine capacities. But then again if he doesn't say or threaten to do something, then the other side wants to crucify him.

DaHeezy
09-04-2019, 03:20 PM
To be brutally honest, Trump does deserve some measure of blame (not all obviously), just as Obama, GWB and Clinton before him for not doing enough about the mass shootings. Mass shootings have gotten worse in the last few years, and his response was video games :facepalm A leader gets credit and blame...now I never blamed Trump entirely because as I have said, this has been happening well before he became POTUS.
Yes, they've been happening for years. We were able to have empathy because the media focuses on the victims. Today's media, ESPECIALLY celebrities focus on blaming Trump.


So let me ask you directly, Trump shouldn't get NONE of the blame? You don't ascribe to the "buck stops here" philosophy? You don't believe a president should lead in finding solutions to a nation's ills? These mass shootings don't happen in other first world nation's, not even close so don't tell me it's normal.

From what I've seen he's very strict on gun laws. He's very strict on any type of harm to American people. If someone is working towards stiffening gun laws and is aware there is a problem, no, they aren't to blame.


I also bring a perspective from outside, I live outside of the US and I don't see all this supposed Trump is to blame narrative you're talking about. The international media points out that these incidents have been happening for years now but they are becoming more frequent, that's a fact

That narrative is created within the US and exploited through pop culture and social media. Americans eat that shit up. And it heavily influences the millennial generation. Once a gun goes off it's a reason to blame Trump. And hearing it from where I'm from repeatedly, well...you lose any type of sympathy. Because it's not about the victims anymore

DaHeezy
09-04-2019, 03:27 PM
https://www.refinery29.com/en-ca/2019/08/239795/celebrities-react-mass-shootings-el-paso-dayton-reese-witherspoon-gigi-hadid

This is the reactions we see. Not the empathy, but a celebrity gang up on the president.
If this were Obama you think the focus would be on the president? No, it would be about the victims. No matter what the volume. Again, the narrative has pushed the rest of the world, or at least the free thinkers away

TheMan
09-04-2019, 03:50 PM
TheMan has a short memory and a clear case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

What blame should be placed at Trump's feet? He isn't the one doing the shooting. And did he not ban bump stocks after the shooting in Las Vegas?


Trump has been the only President in recent memory to be tough on guns as he already has. Trust me, he pisses off a lot of his voters when he talks about banning certain weapons or limiting magazine capacities. But then again if he doesn't say or threaten to do something, then the other side wants to crucify him.
Funny because you had a clear case of Obama Derangement Syndrome, you guys went so far as to claim that Obama was weak, a terrorist and not a legitimate POTUS :confusedshrug: You were shook and triggered af for 8 years.

How is that any different than the libs losing their shit over Trump :confusedshrug:

Patrick Chewing
09-04-2019, 04:18 PM
Funny because you had a clear case of Obama Derangement Syndrome, you guys went so far as to claim that Obama was weak, a terrorist and not a legitimate POTUS :confusedshrug: You were shook and triggered af for 8 years.

How is that any different than the libs losing their shit over Trump :confusedshrug:


Don't deflect back on to me. You're telling us that Trump is partly to blame for this because the mainstream Fake News media is telling you this. What I'm showing you is the difference between what Trump has done and said versus what his predecessors have done and said. I know it's hard for some of you never-Trumpers to accept, but Trump has probably been the most proactive President in regards to mass shootings.

rufuspaul
09-04-2019, 04:28 PM
Funny because you had a clear case of Obama Derangement Syndrome, you guys went so far as to claim that Obama was weak, a terrorist and not a legitimate POTUS :confusedshrug: You were shook and triggered af for 8 years.

How is that any different than the libs losing their shit over Trump :confusedshrug:


Some on the right were like that. The difference is we didn't have the media and the House of Representatives joining in en masse.

MaxFly
09-04-2019, 11:25 PM
How is that a loophole? And if ever implemented, how you would enforce it?

It's colloquially called the "gun show loophole," though it more specifically refers to that fact that in some states, though licensed sellers have to conduct background checks, individuals who are prohibited by law from possessing guns can easily obtain them from private sellers at gun shows or through other means and do so without any federal records of the transactions. The unlicensed private seller may sell firearms to others without conducting background checks or documenting the transaction in any way. In keeping, individuals who want to avoid scrutiny would choose to buy a gun through a private seller. A private seller is defined as people who do not rely on gun sales as the principal way of obtaining their livelihood.

loophole
[ˈlo͞opˌ(h)ōl]
NOUN
an ambiguity or inadequacy in the law or a set of rules.


If implemented, you'd likely see heavy fines and perhaps criminal prosecution for individuals who sell guns without conducting a background check and notifying the government of the transaction. Those who buy privately would also likely have to obtain a license for the gun, and those found to possess guns without a license would be heavily fined and prosecuted more vigorously.


Again, all this does is infringe upon the millions of legal gun owners who follow and obey the law.

By this logic, the federal law that currently requires background checks by licensed dealers and permits for gun purchasers "infringes on the millions of legal gun owners who follow and obey the law."

MaxFly
09-04-2019, 11:30 PM
The article should clearly state that the gun was purchased from a private seller illegally but that would require the editor to actually be good at their job. :oldlol:

In many states, it is legal to purchase a gun from a private seller without a background check. Texas is one of those states.

MaxFly
09-04-2019, 11:35 PM
Right on cue, defending Trump like a jealous gf :oldlol:

Me, I never blamed Trump, this shit has been happening for a while now, before he came into office. My point is that American society is becoming desensitized to mass shootings because they happen so often. You've be here long enough to see that its even happening here in this forum too, a mass shooting used to get us talking about what solutions we could apply and threads would go on for pages. The more recent threads are becoming shorter because mass shootings are becoming normalized. Media coverage the same. Its all a reflection of America just getting used to this...and its not acceptable :confusedshrug:

Mass shooting happens...
White suspect killed or captured...
Less coverage because it happens so often...
Blame it on mental problems but do nothing...
Half-assed debate on solutions...
Thoughts and prayers...
Rinse and repeat...

:facepalm

You forgot the "what about Chicago!!!!" deflection even though cities like Newark, Memphis and Cleveland have higher homicide rates per capita.

Patrick Chewing
09-04-2019, 11:44 PM
It's colloquially called the "gun show loophole," though it more specifically refers to that fact that in some states, though licensed sellers have to conduct background checks, individuals who are prohibited by law from possessing guns can easily obtain them from private sellers at gun shows or through other means and do so without any federal records of the transactions. The unlicensed private seller may sell firearms to others without conducting background checks or documenting the transaction in any way. In keeping, individuals who want to avoid scrutiny would choose to buy a gun through a private seller. A private seller is defined as people who do not rely on gun sales as the principal way of obtaining their livelihood.

loophole
[ˈlo͞opˌ(h)ōl]
NOUN
an ambiguity or inadequacy in the law or a set of rules.


If implemented, you'd likely see heavy fines and perhaps criminal prosecution for individuals who sell guns without conducting a background check and notifying the government of the transaction. Those who buy privately would also likely have to obtain a license for the gun, and those found to possess guns without a license would be heavily fined and prosecuted more vigorously.



By this logic, the federal law that currently requires background checks by licensed dealers and permits for gun purchasers "infringes on the millions of legal gun owners who follow and obey the law."


So you want more BIG government and more people in jail? Why would anyone in their right mind for a candidate who would be preaching this?

Just come out and say: Gun Registry


Background checks do not infringe on anyone's right to own a firearm. The law clearly states that no convicted felons can obtain one. How else would the government know if you were a felon or not? By answering Yes or No on the questionnaire? :oldlol:

Some companies run a background check on you before offering you employment. How dare they?!

MaxFly
09-05-2019, 12:44 AM
Some on the right were like that. The difference is we didn't have the media and the House of Representatives joining in en masse.

Put Obama in Trump's place for a minute. Say in 2012 Obama asked the President of AMI, David Pecker, how Pecker could help his campaign, and Pecker said that he could catch and kill negative stories about Obama. Say, some time later, Pecker did just that. Do you think the Republican House would have gone after Obama for seeking, utilizing and hiding Pecker's help? What if it was found that Obama paid hush money to two women he cheated on his wife with, one of which required a convoluted scheme to pay back his
personal lawyer for hush money payments. What do you think the CNN coverage would look like? That's just a small sample of the problematic things we have seen.

What we see with Trump isn't simply a function of him being Trump. Rather, he has found himself embroiled in scandal after scandal, and has openly lied about almost every scandal that has come to light. The media would have a field day with any President with this kind of baggage because there is nothing their ratings love more than a sex scandal involving money and lies. There's also nothing Republicans in the House would love more. If this were Obama, we'd still be hearing Republicans talk about bringing honor back to the Oval Office. Religious leaders on the right wouldn't know what to do with themselves. With the current occupant, the refrain is "nobody's perfect..." It's easy to play politics with this stuff and both sides are bound to do it, but these sorts of scandals almost require a political response.

Rocket
09-05-2019, 04:14 PM
Racial tension has been through the roof since Trump got elected...Country legit is more racist now than it was 20 years ago....crazy
Why are you blaming Trump for this? He inherited a mess. Racial tension has been through the roof since Obama practiced the politics of division for 8 years. He was wrong about literally every single race issue he commented on. He could have done so much to bridge people together yet chose to divide. Now Trump has not done much to fix the race relations that Obama stirred up so bad but he is definitely not the one who started it.

LostCause
09-05-2019, 04:16 PM
Why are you blaming Trump for this? He inherited a mess. Racial tension has been through the roof since Obama practiced the politics of division for 8 years. He was wrong about literally every single race issue he commented on. He could have done so much to bridge people together yet chose to divide. Now Trump has not done much to fix the race relations that Obama stirred up so bad but he is definitely not the one who started it.

You absolve Trump of blame then go on to blame Obama

Moronic

Facepalm
09-05-2019, 04:37 PM
Put Obama in Trump's place for a minute. Say in 2012 Obama asked the President of AMI, David Pecker, how Pecker could help his campaign, and Pecker said that he could catch and kill negative stories about Obama. Say, some time later, Pecker did just that. Do you think the Republican House would have gone after Obama for seeking, utilizing and hiding Pecker's help? What if it was found that Obama paid hush money to two women he cheated on his wife with, one of which required a convoluted scheme to pay back his
personal lawyer for hush money payments. What do you think the CNN coverage would look like? That's just a small sample of the problematic things we have seen.

What we see with Trump isn't simply a function of him being Trump. Rather, he has found himself embroiled in scandal after scandal, and has openly lied about almost every scandal that has come to light. The media would have a field day with any President with this kind of baggage because there is nothing their ratings love more than a sex scandal involving money and lies. There's also nothing Republicans in the House would love more. If this were Obama, we'd still be hearing Republicans talk about bringing honor back to the Oval Office. Religious leaders on the right wouldn't know what to do with themselves. With the current occupant, the refrain is "nobody's perfect..." It's easy to play politics with this stuff and both sides are bound to do it, but these sorts of scandals almost require a political response.
Obama's biggest scandal was wearing a tan suit. Fox news lost their shit over this :oldlol:

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/902358401321115648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gq.com%2Fstory%2Fbarack-obama-tan-suit-anniversary

Rocket
09-06-2019, 08:27 AM
You absolve Trump of blame then go on to blame Obama

Moronic
:roll: Obama was the one who pushed dangerous outright lies like the hands up don't shoot lie in Ferguson stirring up the pot to push racial tensions. He did similar things for every single race issue during his 8 years and was wrong on every single one of them. He could have been one of the most unifying Presidents ever yet he pushed the politics of division every chance he could. Instead of unifying races we ended up with BLM when all lives matter irregardless of color.

Trump has done little to fix the issues created by Obama other than putting policies in place that have led to the lowest unemployment rate for African Americans in our history but he did not create the issues.

LostCause
09-06-2019, 07:34 PM
:roll: Obama was the one who pushed dangerous outright lies like the hands up don't shoot lie in Ferguson stirring up the pot to push racial tensions. He did similar things for every single race issue during his 8 years and was wrong on every single one of them. He could have been one of the most unifying Presidents ever yet he pushed the politics of division every chance he could. Instead of unifying races we ended up with BLM when all lives matter irregardless of color.

None of that leads to more racial tension unless people on one side of it look at it that way. “Hands up don’t shoot” does nothing to divide any races on its own. It’s not even a racial defense, it was targeted at law enforcement officers. Was “I can’t breathe” racially divisive for you too?

“Black Lives Matter” as far as I know was never meant to say that all lives don’t matter or black lives were more important, it was to draw attention that black lives should be valued too.

Would it have been easier to grasp this if it was titled “Black Lives Matter, Too” or is that racially divisive as well

If you don’t understand something this basic then discussing it is pointless.

(I’d also like to add here that BLM quickly became co-copies by corporate interests and other groups and lost its original meaning, but that’s not what the discussion is about as you seemed to have an issue with what BLM stands for)


Trump has done little to fix the issues created by Obama other than putting policies in place that have led to the lowest unemployment rate for African Americans in our history but he did not create the issues.


African American unemployment rates were on a steady decline before Trump ever took office, as long as he continued that trend the rates would be in the same place (Obama’s presidency also enjoyed the lowest African American unemployment rates. You just didn’t know it because he didn’t pat himself on the back for it). I wonder if Trumps policies are to thank for that why was it dropping nearly the same rate before he took office?

I also find it interesting that you say Obama “created” racial issues in the country. Do you even live here? I assure you racial tensions have ALWAYS existed here. Funny you could cite Obama for “stirring the pot “ for supporting a few high profile cases yet Trump didn’t with his rhetoric about Mexicans? Being supported by straight up white supremacists and their organizations?

Really. Do you live here?