Giannis Antetokounmpo Still = Scrub In FIBA: Outplayed By Alex Garcia

[Euroleague]

A 39 year old, 6-4 shooting guard, that plays in the Brazilian national league, named Alex Garcia, outplayed the NBA "MVP" Giannis Antetokounmpo....constantly keeping him from being able to do anything on offense, even getting his shots off..........

:lol :oldlol: :roll:

The NBA is the most ridiculously overrated POS soft candy ass league there is in sports.

As for Giannis specifically, he's now been a scrub in FIBA play since 2013, and Greece still plays better without him on their team........

https://media.giphy.com/media/fWr0QUcylqDHejmQTB/giphy.gif

[Dinosaurus]

Lettuce be real here, if Giannis were in the euroleague where the rules aren't skewed heavily in favor of athleticism he'd be a mismatch bench guy.

[stalkerforlife]

Time and time again.

Rules aren't enforced in the NBA and defense is frowned upon.

[qrich]

EuroLeague GOAT Anthony Parker was a scrub in the NBA.

EuroLeague's Finest Vasaline Shitnoulis was a scrub in the NBA.

Best PG in EuroLeague, Milos Teodosic, couldn't get playing time over two rookies and Avery Bradley.

[stalkerforlife]

"Why this sport is wonderful," Brazil coach Aleksandar Petrovic said. "You have a guy who won MVP, he's 23 years old, and who stops him tonight? The guy who is 40 years old and kicks his ass."

[Euroleague]

EuroLeague GOAT Anthony Parker was a scrub in the NBA.

EuroLeague's Finest Vasaline Shitnoulis was a scrub in the NBA.

Best PG in EuroLeague, Milos Teodosic, couldn't get playing time over two rookies and Avery Bradley.

Anthony Parker has never been the EuroLeague GOAT. A few years back, EuroLeague named him the 10th best American player (just Americans) in EuroLeague - he didn't even make the top 25 EuroLeague players list.

If you are going to troll, at least come up with even a halfway decent troll shtick. Because coming with such weak trolls as that, really makes you look like a dumb ass.

[qrich]

Anthony Parker has never been the EuroLeague GOAT. A few years back, EuroLeague named him the 10th ebst American player (just Americans) in EuroLeague - he didn't even make the top 25 EuroLeague players list.

If you are going to troll, at least come up with even a halfway decent troll shtick. Because coming with such weak trolls as that, really makes you look like a dumb ass.

I love how you conveniently ignored the other two :roll:

"Best player never to play in the NBA!"

Comes to the NBA, loses playing time to a rookie his first year, a second round pick ffs, and then once again his second year. Along with Avery Bradley


:roll:

[Kblaze8855]

I kinda liked Teodosic.

[Euroleague]

I love how you conveniently ignored the other two :roll:

"Best player never to play in the NBA!"

Comes to the NBA, loses playing time to a rookie his first year, a second round pick ffs, and then once again his second year. Along with Avery Bradley


:roll:

Again, with made up total bs.

Yes, Teodosic was once considered the best point guard in EuroLeague (not when he came to the NBA, but whatever, I'll give you that one).

He was never considered the "best player never to play in the NBA".......put down the crack pipe.

You could make your point much more coherently, if you just stuck to facts, rather than making up crap that isn't true.

[qrich]

Again, with made up total bs.

Yes, Teodosic was once considered the best point guard in EuroLeague (not when he came to the NBA, but whatever, I'll give you that one).

He was never considered the "best player never to play in the NBA".......put down the crack pipe.

You could make your point much more coherently, if you just stuck to facts, rather than making up crap that isn't true.

:sleeping

"Milos Teodosic, The Best Non NBA Player In The World, May Join The Sacramento Kings"

Posted: May, 2017

:sleeping

"After the annual survey conducted by the NBA for GMs, Milos Teodosic was voted the ‘best international player not in the NBA’. Obviously a huge honor and achievement, Milos took to twitter to show his gratitude;"

Want to try again fruitcake.


Oh, and care to post Vasaline's stats in the NBA?

[superduper]

I kinda liked Teodosic.

https://youtu.be/_q4-a4U1FAU?t=16

[Euroleague]

:sleeping

"Milos Teodosic, The Best Non NBA Player In The World, May Join The Sacramento Kings"

Posted: May, 2017

:sleeping

"After the annual survey conducted by the NBA for GMs, Milos Teodosic was voted the ‘best international player not in the NBA’. Obviously a huge honor and achievement, Milos took to twitter to show his gratitude;"

Want to try again fruitcake.


Oh, and care to post Vasaline's stats in the NBA?

Oh, an NBA only fan that writes fluff pieces for the NBA said it.........must be true then.

The same GM survey once picked a 13th man from a EuroLeague team as "best player not in the NBA". They also once picked a guy that was cut from EuroCup teams (level below EuroLeague) - yeah clearly experts on the subject........what a freaking joke.

If you went to a European basketball site and claimed Teodosic was the best player to never play in the NBA - you would be banned probably right away for such absurd trolling.

I don't know if he would have even made the top 5 Serbians that had not played in the NBA. You have a limited basketball knowledge. You have no clue at all about anything outside NBA.

He was at one time considered a top 3 point guard in EuroLeague.....actually I don't recall him ever being considered the best point guard in EuroLeague.

Spanoulis
Diamantidis
Papaloukas
Llull

guys that were all seen as better than him at various times.

[qrich]

Yes, a GM survey is a fluff piece :roll:

Hey, who put up:

https://i.gyazo.com/a975b23ab71c2c9ce7a65a0e1bb3c4fa.png

With .9 turnovers?

[Euroleague]

Yes, a GM survey is a fluff piece :roll:

Hey, who put up:

https://i.gyazo.com/a975b23ab71c2c9ce7a65a0e1bb3c4fa.png

With .9 turnovers?

It is, because most of the time everyone in Europe laughed at how absurd it was in best player outside the NBA or in Europe.

They more than once picked guys that couldn't even make a EuroLeague roster.

[qrich]

https://i.gyazo.com/a975b23ab71c2c9ce7a65a0e1bb3c4fa.png

So...?

[Euroleague]

https://i.gyazo.com/a975b23ab71c2c9ce7a65a0e1bb3c4fa.png

So...?

Spanoulis against double teams always, was much better (by leaps and bounds) in the same national team. I'd pick a different example.

[qrich]

https://i.gyazo.com/a975b23ab71c2c9ce7a65a0e1bb3c4fa.png


Man, those are some goat tier stats. More turnovers per game than rebounds....32% from the field, 17% from three. OMFG!!

[Manny98]

Yes, a GM survey is a fluff piece :roll:

Hey, who put up:

https://i.gyazo.com/a975b23ab71c2c9ce7a65a0e1bb3c4fa.png

With .9 turnovers?
:roll: :roll:

[FKAri]

There aren't many decent basketball players left in the NBA. But our league has some of the best actors on the planet. And among those, Lebron James is the best. We stay winning.

[Dinosaurus]

Ekpe Udoh won an MVP over there

[gabepizza]

So we send in the weakest Team USA with NBA Players yet and they are struggling (but still haven't lost a game that matters)

But Team USA (obviously with all NBA Players) have won and gone undefeated in the last 5 FIBA Tournaments. Yes undefeated in the last 5 tournaments. No country in any sport has had such a dominate performance. We all know if the US sends the best NBA players the US would win every game like what is going to happen in the Olympics.

Let me post the scores of the most recent gold medal games of FIBA Tournaments.

2016 Olympics: USA 96 Serbia 66
2014 WC: USA 129 Serbia 92

It's sort of like a team in the major league vs a team in the minor league :oldlol:

[Dinosaurus]

So we send in the weakest Team USA with NBA Players yet and they are struggling (but still haven't lost a game that matters)

But Team USA (obviously with all NBA Players) have won and gone undefeated in the last 5 FIBA Tournaments. Yes undefeated in the last 5 tournaments. No country in any sport has had such a dominate performance. We all know if the US sends the best NBA players the US would win every game like what is going to happen in the Olympics.

Let me post the scores of the most recent gold medal games of FIBA Tournaments.

2016 Olympics: USA 96 Serbia 66
2014 WC: USA 129 Serbia 92

It's sort of like a team in the major league vs a team in the minor league :oldlol:No one is arguing differently, the very best NBA players are the best in the world regardless of rules and leagues. But then you have a bunch of NBA guys with inflated stats from playing in the NBA rule set that favors their play styles. Both things can be true.

[LAmbruh]

AHA The Don EuroKing is back and already steaming up his kettles


90GOAT and Stalker the past 24 months desperately trying to adopt and bite OP's swag , extreme underwhelming success

[GimmeThat]

here to demonstrate the average IQ of ISH

Brazil
Anderson Varejao 22 PTs, 36
Marquinhos Sousa 15 PTs, 35
Leandrinho Barbosa 13 PTs, 36
Alex Garcia 13 Pts, 39

Greece
Georgios Printezis 20 PTs, 34
Nick Calathes 16 PTs, 30
Giannis Antetokounmpo 13 Pts, 24

[Mask the Embiid]

Didn't the greatest Euroleague player of all time only average 1.6 ppg in the NBA?

OP why do NBA coaches still to this day call missing a wide-open jumper coming off a pick "pulling a Spanoulus"?

[Rudeboy3]

here to demonstrate the average IQ of ISH

Brazil
Anderson Varejao 22 PTs, 36
Marquinhos Sousa 15 PTs, 35
Leandrinho Barbosa 13 PTs, 36
Alex Garcia 13 Pts, 39

Greece
Georgios Printezis 20 PTs, 34
Nick Calathes 16 PTs, 30
Giannis Antetokounmpo 13 Pts, 24

Yh, all those guys are all better than Giannis, would totally win MVP in the nba :rolleyes:

[sportjames23]

EuroLeague GOAT Anthony Parker was a scrub in the NBA.

EuroLeague's Finest Vasaline Shitnoulis was a scrub in the NBA.

Best PG in EuroLeague, Milos Teodosic, couldn't get playing time over two rookies and Avery Bradley.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[GimmeThat]

Yh, all those guys are all better than Giannis, would totally win MVP in the nba :rolleyes:

in all honesty, it's just one of those Tim Thomas 3 for him

[Smoke117]

Watch 3ball come in to talk shit even though his lover Ordan was atrocious in the 92 olympics vs nobodies. :oldlol: The competition was piss weak at that time and Jordan wasn't even a top 5 player on the team production wise. :lol

[sportjames23]

Watch 3ball come in to talk shit even though his lover Ordan was atrocious in the 92 olympics vs nobodies. :oldlol: The competition was piss weak at that time and Jordan wasn't even a top 5 player on the team production wise. :lol


I'ma let 3ball wax your ass over this. :oldlol:

[madmax]

Euroleague, did Euroleague finally erect that statue for their GOAT Anthony Parker or the construction is still in progress?

[MrFonzworth]

I'ma let 3ball wax your ass over this. :oldlol:
:roll::roll::roll:

[Dinosaurus]

Didn't the greatest Euroleague player of all time only average 1.6 ppg in the NBA?

OP why do NBA coaches still to this day call missing a wide-open jumper coming off a pick "pulling a Spanoulus"?
Anthony Parker averaged 9.1 ppg in the NBA

[Manny98]

Giannis is playing with a bunch of greek bums and is getting doubled and tripled almost every possession and he has no decent shooters to kick it out 2

[Bronbron23]

Giannis is playing with a bunch of greek bums and is getting doubled and tripled almost every possession and he has no decent shooters to kick it out 2
That's not really an excuse to not score though if Greek is on the level that his Stan's put him on. Mj, Bron, Kobe and Shaq used to crush double and triple teams. Greek dosnt have any moves beside the euro. His half court offence isnt great. He has no post game, no mid range and he can't shoot threes. His first step is also pretty mediocre so he can't blow by defences on the perimeter. That said I don't think Greek struggling in summer fiba games really means anything. Most great players score alot less in the Olympics than they do in the nba.

[kentatm]

Mj, Bron, Kobe and Shaq used to crush double and triple teams.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You're 2K exploits aren't real life.

[Bronbron23]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You're 2K exploits aren't real life.
They didn't? LeBron was the only questionable one out of those 4 only because he usually just passes out of them but to dispute the other three?

[ralph_i_el]

He's bad purely off the lack of defensive 3 seconds in FIBA. If you are only a finisher at the rim, you are going to have a tough time in that situation.

[kentatm]

They didn't? LeBron was the only questionable one out of those 4 only because he usually just passes out of them but to dispute the other three?


They all passed out of doubles for the most part b/c they are all smart players. Jordan dealt with them the least b/c there was no zone D in his era to cover up for the man you took off for the double. Kobe would go against them the most for his late game hero ball shots but he also had a terrible FG% in those situations. Shaq's doubles were almost always exclusively him getting fouled in an effort to make him miss FTs or to force him to pass the ball out which he usually did.

None of them ever faced many triple teams b/c those completely break a defense if the trap fails.

[Rooster]

That's not really an excuse to not score though if Greek is on the level that his Stan's put him on. Mj, Bron, Kobe and Shaq used to crush double and triple teams. Greek dosnt have any moves beside the euro. His half court offence isnt great. He has no post game, no mid range and he can't shoot threes. His first step is also pretty mediocre so he can't blow by defences on the perimeter. That said I don't think Greek struggling in summer fiba games really means anything. Most great players score alot less in the Olympics than they do in the nba.


They should just give him the ball and get out of his way. He’s surrounded by bunch of unathletic soft scrubs from minor leagues. Their next player is an American who can not speak Greek��

[paksat]

Watch 3ball come in to talk shit even though his lover Ordan was atrocious in the 92 olympics vs nobodies. :oldlol: The competition was piss weak at that time and Jordan wasn't even a top 5 player on the team production wise. :lol

jordan played cards and shit all night every night, got 1 hour of sleep a day max if that ( that includes the gold medal game )

jordan didn't take it even remotely serious because he knew he didn't have to.

[Manny98]

That's not really an excuse to not score though if Greek is on the level that his Stan's put him on. Mj, Bron, Kobe and Shaq used to crush double and triple teams. Greek dosnt have any moves beside the euro. His half court offence isnt great. He has no post game, no mid range and he can't shoot threes. His first step is also pretty mediocre so he can't blow by defences on the perimeter. That said I don't think Greek struggling in summer fiba games really means anything. Most great players score alot less in the Olympics than they do in the nba.
I agree he needs to expand his game like LeBron post 2011 if he wants to win a championship. Right now his playstyle is too limited and easy to predict

[gabepizza]

Must win situation against New Zealand. 24-10-6-2

Don't count the Greek Freak out yet.

[Rudeboy3]

That's not really an excuse to not score though if Greek is on the level that his Stan's put him on. Mj, Bron, Kobe and Shaq used to crush double and triple teams. Greek dosnt have any moves beside the euro. His half court offence isnt great. He has no post game, no mid range and he can't shoot threes. His first step is also pretty mediocre so he can't blow by defences on the perimeter. That said I don't think Greek struggling in summer fiba games really means anything. Most great players score alot less in the Olympics than they do in the nba.
Except it is a good excuse. You aren

[Trollsmasher]

Except it is a good excuse. You aren’t going to do shit if you’re getting triple teamed all game and your teammates aren’t making shots. No matter who you are. Lebron career average for FIBA is like 13ppg, Kobe even less and harden is like 5.5ppg
The Americans have low averages because they played on commitee teams.

If you stuck them on teams as sole stars, most of them would do better than Giannis.

[Euroleague]

Must win situation against New Zealand. 24-10-6-2

Don't count the Greek Freak out yet.

New Zealand is one of the worst teams at the tournament. Only better than the Asian and African teams.

[90sgoat]

I'm lolling so much at how poor Euroleague is being attacked on the other forum.

That forum is such a cancer of sjws.

Spanoulis > Giannis and it aint close.

[GimmeThat]

They should get Giannis the ball in the open floor, truth is, their centers should be serviceable if they run towards the strong side for post positioning. The Greece don't need Giannis to shoot the 3, but if he makes them, the team rebounding strategy they implemented will pay off.

[Rudeboy3]

The Americans have low averages because they played on commitee teams.

If you stuck them on teams as sole stars, most of them would do better than Giannis.
No the **** they wouldn

[theballerFKA Ace]

Spanoulis > Giannis and it aint close.


Who? Is that the scrub who played like shit on the Rockets then cried like a bitch when he didn't get playing time?

[Euroleague]

Giannis' whole World Cup was a disaster for NBA marketing gimmicks.

[tpols]

He's bad purely off the lack of defensive 3 seconds in FIBA. If you are only a finisher at the rim, you are going to have a tough time in that situation.


and why should centers not be allowed to stay in the paint?

stupidest, most shallow rule in the game. :facepalm

[3ball]

.
People are being too hard on Giannis - he's a weak MVP but the era is weak and he's still better than 07' Lebron, who similarly stunk it up on the international stage and was capable of worse shooting:


Giannis 19' ECF...'' vs. Champs - 23/14/6 on 44.8 fg.. 23.7% on jumpers
Lebron. 07' Finals vs. Champs - 22/7/6.. on 35.6 fg.. 17.9% on jumpers


Links for jumpshot stats:

Giannis: https://stats.nba.com/player/203507/...offs&PORound=3

Lebron: https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/sh...offs&PORound=4

[gabepizza]

New Zealand is one of the worst teams at the tournament. Only better than the Asian and African teams.


They beat Turkey

[GimmeThat]

they had one too many playmaker, and didn't necessarily started trading shots as a team.

[Lebron23]

Giannis' whole World Cup was a disaster for NBA marketing gimmicks.

Same with his playoffs performance

[Gray GOAT]

Euroleague = visionary, Euroleague = prophet.

[PeroAntic]

Euroleague = visionary, Euroleague = prophet.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/26gsuyqRLfo4tjqi4/source.gif

[ralph_i_el]

and why should centers not be allowed to stay in the paint?

stupidest, most shallow rule in the game. :facepalm

Agreed.

[ralph_i_el]

Greece just blew out Turkey (after getting in a big hole in the first few minutes). They seem to be playing better without Giannis:biggums:

But Pappagiannis got himself in shape! I did not recognize the pudgy kid from his short stint in the NBA.

[kawhileonard2]

Same as Lebron in FIBA.

[ralph_i_el]

It's much harder to use athleticism to dominate in FIBA rules. Smaller court, more physical, no rules restricting defense from packing the paint. There were 3 physical plays on shooters in the first 5 minutes of this Greece-Turkey game that would have been free throws in the NBA...no call in FIBA. A guard for Greece did the "pull up short in front of a defender" move Trae Young uses....no call...but he absolutely bashed his defender with his back and sailed in for a layup anyways.

Only elite off the dribble shooters can dominate in FIBA play. Otherwise it's a more team-based effort

[Euroleague]

Greece just blew out Turkey (after getting in a big hole in the first few minutes). They seem to be playing better without Giannis:biggums:

But Pappagiannis got himself in shape! I did not recognize the pudgy kid from his short stint in the NBA.

The NBA morons made Papagiannis gain 60 pounds in order to "bulk up". He has since lost the 60 pounds after he went back to Europe, because the European coaches (which are much smarter) wouldn't let him play at such a ridiculous weight that the NBA had him at.

The morons in the NBA ruined his career by making him add so much unneeded and unnecessary eight to his frame.

[ralph_i_el]

The NBA morons made Papagiannis gain 60 pounds in order to "bulk up". He has since lost the 60 pounds after he went back to Europe, because the European coaches (which are much smarter) wouldn't let him play at such a ridiculous weight that the NBA had him at.

The morons in the NBA ruined his career by making him add so much unneeded and unnecessary eight to his frame.

He might make his way back to the NBA if he wants to.

You watching Slovenia v Lithuania right now? Great game so far.

[Lebron23]

A 39 year old, 6-4 shooting guard, that plays in the Brazilian national league, named Alex Garcia, outplayed the NBA "MVP" Giannis Antetokounmpo....constantly keeping him from being able to do anything on offense, even getting his shots off..........

:lol :oldlol: :roll:

The NBA is the most ridiculously overrated POS soft candy ass league there is in sports.

As for Giannis specifically, he's now been a scrub in FIBA play since 2013, and Greece still plays better without him on their team........

https://media.giphy.com/media/fWr0QUcylqDHejmQTB/giphy.gif

This thread didn't age well. Giannis scored 40 points vs. Serbia