View Full Version : What rules regarding calls in the NBA do you think need adjustment?
insidehoops
09-04-2019, 07:31 AM
Not necessarily an actual rule change (though it can be that too), but what calls in the NBA do you feel need more clarity or some adjustment somehow?
(I know a popular answer will be charges vs blocks, so if you touch upon that, be very specific about what you want to be changed somehow, and why.)
Think about what calls you sometimes see (or calls that don't get made) in certain situations. What are they, and what would you change?
MrFonzworth
09-04-2019, 07:49 AM
First and foremost: charges and blocks. The refs need to work on that.
elementally morale
09-04-2019, 08:26 AM
The offensive goaltending rule is crap. After the ball hits the cylinder, everybody should go for it.
iamgine
09-04-2019, 09:22 AM
FTs should just be one shot, worth 2 or 3 points depending where the player is fouled.
3ball
09-04-2019, 09:59 AM
3-pointers should be worth 2.5 (f.uck the dumb fans that can't follow)
And bring hand-checking back
Bosnian Sajo
09-04-2019, 10:12 AM
Booty shorts.
LAmbruh
09-04-2019, 10:21 AM
3-pointers should be worth 2.5 (f.uck the dumb fans that can't follow)
And bring hand-checking back
Nope, players will never get penalized for hitter longer and harder shots
More difficult the shot, more entertaining it is to fans
No one is interested in warp driving back to 90's midevil times when 6' guards couldn't hit the side of a barn from 15ft.
Stern already handed out bumper bowling 3 pt lanes for handicap talent in those dark ages. Embarassing
Btw, handchecking very much still exists
FKAri
09-04-2019, 10:24 AM
Rules regarding traveling/palming/carrying are poorly written despite revisions. They need to be entirely rewritten so we don't have to worry about interpretation and can instead go on the letter of the law.
'Toine=MVP
09-04-2019, 10:45 AM
Rules regarding traveling/palming/carrying are poorly written despite revisions. They need to be entirely rewritten so we don't have to worry about interpretation and can instead go on the letter of the law.
This is all big. Also if they see a step back type situation or any other situation that could fall under this tent, they should be erring on the side of being too strict. We should be seeing at least 2 examples of bad calls where technically a travel didn't happen upon further reflection for every 1 example of a bad call where technically a travel did happen upon further reflection. It is more important to nab the violators than it is to never blow a bad whistle. Eventually certain tactics that are tough for refs to judge with their eyes live will end up being seen as not worth risking it.
Additionally, refs should be allowing a lot more physical play all season, similarly to how the ref in the playoffs at the very least. If not stronger than that.
Bronbron23
09-04-2019, 10:46 AM
They need to get rid of flopping somehow. They should stop rewarding flopping with fouls for one. Maybe give out techs for flopping or something also.
'Toine=MVP
09-04-2019, 10:49 AM
They need to get rid of flopping somehow. They should stop rewarding flopping with fouls for one. Maybe give out techs for flopping or something also.
Yeah easy fix. Start with total no contact flops. Have the main office watching and just issue a tech when they find it. It should be a special kind of tech though where penalties start multiplying when the same individual is caught. Maybe each player gets 5 techs of this variety per season. But after that double techs or something.
Dr Hawk
09-04-2019, 10:52 AM
Blatant floppers get a 10 game suspension.
Bronbron23
09-04-2019, 11:09 AM
Yeah easy fix. Start with total no contact flops. Have the main office watching and just issue a tech when they find it. It should be a special kind of tech though where penalties start multiplying when the same individual is caught. Maybe each player gets 5 techs of this variety per season. But after that double techs or something.
Yeah not a bad idea. Something has to be done. Its getting out of hand.
bullettooth
09-04-2019, 11:11 AM
Pump fake + jump into defender to initiate bullshit contact.
Shit needs to stop.
Suspensions for flopping. Fines don't do shit.
Derka
09-04-2019, 11:11 AM
Charging and blocking both need to go away. Score through the contact, you overgrown p*ssies.
Also, jumping into contact and taking a half-assed shot to cheese your way to the line should result in the player being caned at center court.
Bronbron23
09-04-2019, 11:11 AM
Blatant floppers get a 10 game suspension.
That's a bit harsh. I think a one game suspension would send the message but I dought the league will go that far.
FKAri
09-04-2019, 11:16 AM
FTs should just be one shot, worth 2 or 3 points depending where the player is fouled.
Would definitely speed up the game. I kinda like it on first inspection.
SouBeachTalents
09-04-2019, 11:26 AM
3-pointers should be worth 2.5 (f.uck the dumb fans that can't follow)
And bring hand-checking back
I seriously couldn't think of a worse rule. Imagine the suspense of a team down by 3 on the last possession being completely eliminated by the league. Yep, that's what fans want to see
Ainosterhaspie
09-04-2019, 11:38 AM
#1 When an offensive player initiates contact with the defender's body, no foul will be called on the defender.
Example: The ball handler drives and changes angle to make contact with the defender and create separation. This is either a no call or offensive foul.
Example: The offensive player pump fakes and the defender jumps. The offensive player then sidesteps or steps/jumps toward the defender. This is either a no call or offensive foul. If the offensive player jumps straight up and the defender makes contact it is a fouls on the defender.
#2. A defender must be allowed to fight over a screen. If the offensive player pulls up while going around a screen and the defender does not have the space to take one step once the offensive player begins his shooting motion, no foul will be called unless it is clear the defender is deliberately bumping or hacking the offensive player.
#3a. When setting a screen a player may not use his arms to interfere with a defender's motion. If any part of the arm extends away from the screener's body and makes contact with the defender, it is an offensive foul.
#3b. Defenders must be given a chance to take one step after a screener has established position. If the screener is not set in time for the defender to take one step, and there is contact between the screener and the defender, it is an offensive foul.
#4. Any foul that currently results in two or more free throws will instead result in one free throw and possession for the team that was fouled.
kells333
09-04-2019, 11:44 AM
Im a little biased because i referee but the biggest change that needs to be made is the constant complaining and talking to refs. Every play someones yelling in the refs face or making a gesture towards them. Id make a rule where you cant even talk to ref unless its a timeout.
I know in a few of the leagues ive been in they already do the 1 shot fts(worth 1 2 or 3). I like it and it makes the game go faster
The charge/block call is impossible to completely fix
Making flopping a suspension at first is wayyyy to harsh. But if you make it 2 shots and ball during game if caught. And fines after the game with suspension after 7 would be fair.
superduper
09-04-2019, 11:45 AM
Im a little biased because i referee but the biggest change that needs to be made is the constant complaining and talking to refs. Every play someones yelling in the refs face or making a gesture towards them. Id make a rule where you cant even talk to ref unless its a timeout.
I know in a few of the leagues ive been in they already do the 1 shot fts(worth 1 2 or 3). I like it and it makes the game go faster
The charge/block call is impossible to completely fix
Making flopping a suspension at first is wayyyy to harsh. But if you make it 2 shots and ball during game if caught. And fines after the game with suspension after 7 would be fair.
I like the not even being able to talk to a ref unless it's a timeout tbh but at the same time you need to have reprocussions for the refs as well. It seems like they can literally decide a game on some bullshit and then nothing gets done except that useless last 2 minute NBA report saying "yeah we were wrong".
90sgoat
09-04-2019, 02:09 PM
Defensive 3 seconds.
It's a travesty of a rule.
90sgoat
09-04-2019, 02:11 PM
I know in a few of the leagues ive been in they already do the 1 shot fts(worth 1 2 or 3). I like it and it makes the game go faster
I like the "2 to make 1" rule.
The current rules encourage high percentage floppers like Harden.
Make it 2 shots to hit 1 for 2 points.
Would level the field.
Real14
09-04-2019, 02:25 PM
The bullshit and 1s Retarden always gets. Also, Lebron's no call stiff arms.
madmax
09-04-2019, 02:55 PM
The offensive goaltending rule is crap. After the ball hits the cylinder, everybody should go for it.
this:applause:
The game is much more fun when bigs can actively disrupt the ball on the cylinder
3ball
09-04-2019, 03:23 PM
I seriously couldn't think of a worse rule. Imagine the suspense of a team down by 3 on the last possession being completely eliminated by the league. Yep, that's what fans want to see
But then there's opposite scenarios where the 2.5 points provides tremendous excitement
And most importantly, we don't have the game's entire strategy be shooting threes, so players develop better basketball skill, like previous eras... i.e. more instinctive passing due to slightly less spacing/less threes; more types of shots (not just 3's and layups) and more individually-unique repertoires; no marching-band-like spacing = better BASKETBALL skill and more unpredictability in the game
bullettooth
09-04-2019, 03:48 PM
50% more points on a shot that's not much further away doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Three point shot needs fixing...
superduper
09-04-2019, 03:58 PM
50% more points on a shot that's not much further away doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Three point shot needs fixing...
Meh I think the 3pt shot itself is fine but all of the rules catering to the 3pt shot making it the best viable option available need to be changed.
The rules are the problem.
kells333
09-05-2019, 08:45 AM
I like the not even being able to talk to a ref unless it's a timeout tbh but at the same time you need to have reprocussions for the refs as well. It seems like they can literally decide a game on some bullshit and then nothing gets done except that useless last 2 minute NBA report saying "yeah we were wrong".
They go and dissect every game that is refd. They only release the last 2 minutes in the nba but trust me, your judged on every call. If your percentage right is too low, you wont be reffing there anymore.
insidehoops
09-28-2019, 05:49 AM
I'd be a fan of more no-calls when block vs charge is somewhat close
90sgoat
09-28-2019, 09:00 AM
I'd be a fan of more no-calls when block vs charge is somewhat close
Agreed.
This is a real annoyance today. In that players can't collide without it having to be a foul. Sometimes it just is a play on, which I would say, most of the time, it should be "play on".
eliteballer
10-01-2019, 07:28 PM
Too much carrying and traveling allowed.
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