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SpaceJam
09-07-2019, 04:09 AM
Absolute monster show out for Scottie.

29 points on 83% shooting.

Had he not shown up Bulls lose and go down 0-3

Speaking of not showing up, MJ with a 3/18 performance. Huge bail out from Pippen there

How much of a domino effect would it have on the league

Barkley vs Ewing. Does Chuck actually end up with a ring?!

Does MJ still 'retire'

Share your thoughts

ImKobe
09-07-2019, 04:47 AM
Bulls won by 20 points and MJ had 22/8/11/2/2...

3ball
09-07-2019, 05:23 AM
Bulls were up 20 at halftime and heading into the 4th

They would've won without Pippen or Jordan

Otoh, let's look at Game 6 of the 2007 ECF - the Cavs were up by 1 point heading into the 4th, and Boobie scored 19 in the 4th compared to Lebron's 8 (2-6)..

So boobie actually did save Lebron in that game, just like Ray in 2013, and Kyrie in 2016.. and Wade tried to save him in 2011, but lebron had that choke hold sunk in deeeep

Mr Feeny
09-07-2019, 05:27 AM
OP means game of the 2007 CF when Gibson saved Lebron.

Edit: Beaten to it already.

SpaceJam
09-07-2019, 05:30 AM
Bulls won by 20 points and MJ had 22/8/11/2/2...

Refs absolutely padding his finals numbers, Knicks couldn't breathe on him without being called for it, 17 free throws. We be calling for Hardens head these days with that many attempts

Baiting that dweeb 3Ball is way too easy these days :roll:

Starts a new thread for the 4,350 time

*LeBron and Jordan do not belong in the same sentence here is why*

Any thread about Jordan

*Well you see here! LeBron did this*

It doesn't give me the same kick it use to, you make it too easy

3ball
09-07-2019, 05:33 AM
Refs absolutely padding his finals numbers, Knicks couldn't breathe on him without being called for it, 17 free throws. We be calling for Hardens head these days with that many attempts

Baiting that dweeb 3Ball is way too easy these days :roll:

Starts a new thread for the 4,350 time

*LeBron and Jordan do not belong in the same sentence here is why*

Any thread about Jordan

*Well you see here! LeBron did this*

It doesn't give me the same kick it use to, you make it too easy
Haha, ur just mad the Bulls were blowing the Knicks out in that game, while Lebron has numerous close games that he was infact saved by a teammate

And mj's free throws are a function of him being goat - his shot wasn't falling but he found other ways to still be impactful - bludgeoning the Knicks with ft's - probably stopping the Knicks' momentum every single time... :bowdown:

SpaceJam
09-07-2019, 06:10 AM
Haha, ur just mad the Bulls were blowing the Knicks out in that game, while Lebron has numerous close games that he was infact saved by a teammate

And mj's free throws are a function of him being goat - his shot wasn't falling but he found other ways to still be impactful - bludgeoning the Knicks with ft's - probably stopping the Knicks' momentum every single time... :bowdown:

Mad how? That the Bulls supporting cast proved their superiority. It's no coincidence the year after BJ Armstrong and Horace Grant were named All-Stars alongside Pippen. Stacked to the gills

Mr Feeny
09-07-2019, 06:21 AM
Mad how? That the Bulls supporting cast proved their superiority. It's no coincidence the year after BJ Armstrong and Horace Grant were named All-Stars alongside Pippen. Stacked to the gills

Stacked = the 2011 Heat

SpaceJam
09-07-2019, 06:34 AM
Stacked = the 2011 Heat

Only 3 All-Stars (Current or one year off)

1993 Bulls had 4

So whilst the Heat could be considered stacked, Bulls were more so :cheers:

Mr Feeny
09-07-2019, 06:45 AM
Only 3 All-Stars (Current or one year off)

1993 Bulls had 4

So whilst the Heat could be considered stacked, Bulls were more so :cheers:
Are you addicted to lying?

The 93 bulls had 2 all stars while the 2011 heat had 3:lol

SpaceJam
09-07-2019, 06:56 AM
Are you addicted to lying?

The 93 bulls had 2 all stars while the 2011 heat had 3:lol

Mr Feeny, for a teacher your reading comprehension sure is appalling

(Current or one year off)

Mr Feeny
09-07-2019, 07:36 AM
Mr Feeny, for a teacher your reading comprehension sure is appalling

(Current or one year off)

In other words, the 93 bulls that Jordsn carried to the title bad less all stars than the 2011 Heat.

Good to know.

SpaceJam
09-07-2019, 08:16 AM
In other words, the 93 bulls that Jordsn carried to the title bad less all stars than the 2011 Heat.

Good to know.

4 All Star talents?

Uncle Drew
09-07-2019, 09:19 AM
Refs absolutely padding his finals numbers, Knicks couldn't breathe on him without being called for it, 17 free throws. We be calling for Hardens head these days with that many attempts

Baiting that dweeb 3Ball is way too easy these days :roll:

Starts a new thread for the 4,350 time

*LeBron and Jordan do not belong in the same sentence here is why*

Any thread about Jordan

*Well you see here! LeBron did this*

It doesn't give me the same kick it use to, you make it too easy
SpaceJam our lord and savior. 5 starred.

ImKobe
09-07-2019, 09:24 AM
Mad how? That the Bulls supporting cast proved their superiority. It's no coincidence the year after BJ Armstrong and Horace Grant were named All-Stars alongside Pippen. Stacked to the gills

Did they prove their superiority in Game 4, where MJ had 54 points on 60% shooting to Scottie's 13 points 5 turnovers on 4/14 shooting? :rolleyes:

MJ's supporting cast

Pippen 22/7/4
Armstrong 11/2/1
Grant 10/7/2
Cartwright 6/4/2

Ewing's supporting cast

Starks 15/4/6
Mason 13/6/2
Smith 13/4/1
Oakley 9/11/1
Rivers 8/2/5


Jordan for the series scored ~1/3rd of his team's points (32.2 ppg) while also leading them in assists, steals and blocks while only being 3 rebounds behind Pippen with also 10 less turnovers :rolleyes:

Jordan was somehow carried despite being 3 rebounds from leading his team in every single category. :applause: only on ISH.

Spurs m8
09-07-2019, 09:28 AM
Jordan triggering OP on the daily hahaahhah

Hahahahahhahahaha

Hey Yo
09-07-2019, 09:35 AM
MJ shot 40% that series..... the same as LeBron shot in 2015 that 3ball calls a shit performance by James. He ALWAYS brings up LeBron's FG% in that 2015 Finals.

LOL @ at MJ being shit in that Knicks series and being carried by his teammates FTW. Just like he was the 1997ECF against the Heat.

ImKobe
09-07-2019, 09:56 AM
MJ shot 40% that series..... the same as LeBron shot in 2015 that 3ball calls a shit performance by James. He ALWAYS brings up LeBron's FG% in that 2015 Finals.

LOL @ at MJ being shit in that Knicks series and being carried by his teammates FTW. Just like he was the 1997ECF against the Heat.

Lebron took 196 shots and 67 free throws to score 215 points at 47.7%TS, Jordan took 155 shots and 68 free throws to score 193 points at 52.2%TS

Lebron had 53 assists to 21 turnovers (2.5:1)
Jordan had 42 assists to 14 turnovers (3:1)

So James took 40 more shots than Jordan to score an extra 22 points against a worse defense, good on him.

1993 NYK - 99.7 DRTG
2015 GSW - 101.4 DRTG

Jordan played better defense, scored more efficiently and had a much better AST-TO ratio.

warriorfan
09-07-2019, 10:03 AM
Op with the big time fail :lol

Lebron stans and them not knowing shit about basketball make it too easy

Bronbron23
09-07-2019, 10:08 AM
Absolute monster show out for Scottie.

29 points on 83% shooting.

Had he not shown up Bulls lose and go down 0-3

Speaking of not showing up, MJ with a 3/18 performance. Huge bail out from Pippen there

How much of a domino effect would it have on the league

Barkley vs Ewing. Does Chuck actually end up with a ring?!

Does MJ still 'retire'

Share your thoughts
No mj wouldn't have three peated without pip but so what. No great would have dominated without help, kobe, magic, Russell, LeBron, Duncan and whoever all had help. I know all these Stan's on here like to believe that there hero/crush did it all on there own but they didn't.

Hey Yo
09-07-2019, 10:20 AM
Lebron took 196 shots and 67 free throws to score 215 points at 47.7%TS, Jordan took 155 shots and 68 free throws to score 193 points at 52.2%TS

Lebron had 53 assists to 21 turnovers (2.5:1)
Jordan had 42 assists to 14 turnovers (3:1)

So James took 40 more shots than Jordan to score an extra 22 points against a worse defense, good on him.

1993 NYK - 99.7 DRTG
2015 GSW - 101.4 DRTG

Jordan played better defense, scored more efficiently and had a much better AST-TO ratio.
Now compare the 4 other starters numbers and you'll see why the Bulls won and the Cavs lost.

ImKobe
09-07-2019, 10:26 AM
Now compare the 4 other starters numbers and you'll see why the Bulls won and the Cavs lost.

Cavs lost because Lebron played like trash up 2 - 1 at home. 7/22 FG 5/10 FTA for 20 points with the series right there for the taking :roll: , his teammate MozGov had 28 points and 10 rebounds on 9/16 shooting, Tristan Thompson had 12 points 13 rebounds in that game as well, but he had no help :rolleyes:

Lebron never did anything wrong and every loss of his career is on his teammates, poor Lebron. IF ONLY HE HAD ENOUGH HELP :cry: .

Hey Yo
09-07-2019, 10:31 AM
Cavs lost because Lebron played like trash up 2 - 1 at home. 7/22 FG 5/10 FTA for 20 points with the series right there for the taking :roll: , his teammate MozGov had 28 points and 10 rebounds on 9/16 shooting, Tristan Thompson had 12 points 13 rebounds in that game as well, but he had no help :rolleyes:

Lebron never did anything wrong and every loss of his career is on his teammates, poor Lebron. IF ONLY HE HAD ENOUGH HELP :cry: .
Yeah .... that's what I thought.

Keep duckin', chico.

Stringer Bell
09-07-2019, 11:50 AM
Pippen came up huge in that series. Both Jordan and Pippen played excellent in game 5 and it was still very close, Pippen had those last 2 blocks on Charles Smith.

Pippen also came up big in game 6, playing great all around and hitting that dagger 3 with the shot clock going down.

bigkingsfan
09-07-2019, 11:58 AM
his teammate MozGov had 28 points and 10 rebounds on 9/16 shooting, Tristan Thompson had 12 points 13 rebounds in that game as well, but he had no help :rolleyes:
.

:roll:

3ball
09-07-2019, 01:45 PM
Lebron took 196 shots and 67 free throws to score 215 points at 47.7%TS, Jordan took 155 shots and 68 free throws to score 193 points at 52.2%TS

Lebron had 53 assists to 21 turnovers (2.5:1)
Jordan had 42 assists to 14 turnovers (3:1)

So James took 40 more shots than Jordan to score an extra 22 points against a worse defense, good on him.

1993 NYK - 99.7 DRTG
2015 GSW - 101.4 DRTG

Jordan played better defense, scored more efficiently and had a much better AST-TO ratio.
One of the best posters we have on this site.. maybe the best . Quality posts with great research

3ball
09-07-2019, 01:47 PM
Did they prove their superiority in Game 4, where MJ had 54 points on 60% shooting to Scottie's 13 points 5 turnovers on 4/14 shooting? :rolleyes:

MJ's supporting cast

Pippen 22/7/4
Armstrong 11/2/1
Grant 10/7/2
Cartwright 6/4/2

Ewing's supporting cast

Starks 15/4/6
Mason 13/6/2
Smith 13/4/1
Oakley 9/11/1
Rivers 8/2/5


Jordan for the series scored ~1/3rd of his team's points (32.2 ppg) while also leading them in assists, steals and blocks while only being 3 rebounds behind Pippen with also 10 less turnovers :rolleyes:

Jordan was somehow carried despite being 3 rebounds from leading his team in every single category. :applause: only on ISH.
Wow. Another one

Smoke117
09-07-2019, 04:42 PM
Did they prove their superiority in Game 4, where MJ had 54 points on 60% shooting to Scottie's 13 points 5 turnovers on 4/14 shooting? :rolleyes:

MJ's supporting cast

Pippen 22/7/4
Armstrong 11/2/1
Grant 10/7/2
Cartwright 6/4/2

Ewing's supporting cast

Starks 15/4/6
Mason 13/6/2
Smith 13/4/1
Oakley 9/11/1
Rivers 8/2/5


Jordan for the series scored ~1/3rd of his team's points (32.2 ppg) while also leading them in assists, steals and blocks while only being 3 rebounds behind Pippen with also 10 less turnovers :rolleyes:

Jordan was somehow carried despite being 3 rebounds from leading his team in every single category. :applause: only on ISH.



lol nice. Bring up the ONE game in the entire series Jordan shot well. Also, I dunno why you are bringing up supporting cast. Basketball is the single team sport where an individual can have the biggest impact and Pippen was far, far, far better than the Knicks 2nd best player. That's completely evident when Jordan retires the next year and Pippen led the team to 55 wins. (despite missing 10 games where they went 4-10) The knicks would be absolute dog shit if they lost Ewing.

The Iron Fist
09-07-2019, 06:34 PM
Bulls were up 20 at halftime and heading into the 4th

They would've won without Pippen or Jordan

Otoh, let's look at Game 6 of the 2007 ECF - the Cavs were up by 1 point heading into the 4th, and Boobie scored 19 in the 4th compared to Lebron's 8 (2-6)..

So boobie actually did save Lebron in that game, just like Ray in 2013, and Kyrie in 2016.. and Wade tried to save him in 2011, but lebron had that choke hold sunk in deeeep
Did you know lebron has a guest appearance on this E-40 song? He sings the hook.

https://youtu.be/kKwsvHkvJU0

egokiller
09-07-2019, 07:30 PM
Bulls were up 20 at halftime and heading into the 4th

They would've won without Pippen or Jordan

Otoh, let's look at Game 6 of the 2007 ECF - the Cavs were up by 1 point heading into the 4th, and Boobie scored 19 in the 4th compared to Lebron's 8 (2-6)..

So boobie actually did save Lebron in that game, just like Ray in 2013, and Kyrie in 2016.. and Wade tried to save him in 2011, but lebron had that choke hold sunk in deeeep

Yes. The biggest question here is does LeBron become a modern day Jerry West without Ray Allen and Kryie saving his career?

SpaceJam
09-07-2019, 09:43 PM
Who'd have thought an innocent thread would cause such a fire up of BronFam enemies, that's crazy.

OP got em on a string, all he asked was how the landscape of the NBA would have changed IF Pippen doesn't save the day in Game 3 that would have put em down 0-3 and possible not three-peat. Still yet to get an answer related to the thread OP but I still have hope

Bawkish
09-08-2019, 08:34 AM
Who'd have thought an innocent thread would cause such a fire up of BronFam enemies, that's crazy.

OP got em on a string, all he asked was how the landscape of the NBA would have changed IF Pippen doesn't save the day in Game 3 that would have put em down 0-3 and possible not three-peat. Still yet to get an answer related to the thread OP but I still have hope

translation: OP thread got backfired so bad :lol :lol

SpaceJam
09-08-2019, 08:45 AM
translation: OP thread got backfired so bad :lol :lol

Impossible to lose this one brother, just really puts out MJ stans insecurity that rather than have a discussion about MJ's average games, and the domino effect losing this particular one would have on the league, they deflect to a guy who entered the league more than a decade after said season mentioned in the OP

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Real14
09-08-2019, 09:06 AM
Bulls won by 20 points and MJ had 22/8/11/2/2...
End of this stupid, dumb thread.

GimmeThat
09-08-2019, 09:40 AM
its odd to insenuate that a team 3peated yet werent in sync. But journey men prepared to sacrifice for the deep playoff run also were the norm.

Bawkish
09-08-2019, 09:42 AM
Impossible to lose this one brother, just really puts out MJ stans insecurity that rather than have a discussion about MJ's average games, and the domino effect losing this particular one would have on the league, they deflect to a guy who entered the league more than a decade after said season mentioned in the OP

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones :cheers:

Da_Realist
09-08-2019, 11:38 AM
Judging by the whole of his career, it's most likely MJ would have had a better game if the Bulls had needed it. Especially to avoid 0-3. There were plenty of times MJ shot dismally but came through in the right spots to secure a victory. I know LBJ fans don't like context or truth (which is more complicated than narrative) but this sort of thing doesn't show up in the box score.