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stalkerforlife
09-08-2019, 07:06 PM
for his opponents.

Khabib is probably the GOAT grappler, but he fights naturally smaller fighters because of drastic weight cuts.

I wouldn't be surprised if Khabib walks around at 185+.

If Conor stayed at the 145 division, he'd run the gauntlet for 5+ years.

Conor now fights at a major disadvantage every time and the novice doesn't get it.

Diaz walks around at 200+.

I have a great respect for Khabib, but I want to see him move to a heavier division.

Conor is fearless and I have such a great respect for him unnecessarily moving to bigger divisions just for the challenge.

AirTupac
09-08-2019, 07:10 PM
Conor lost to a 70 year old Irishmen in a bar

Prometheus
09-08-2019, 07:19 PM
Accurate on all counts except for Diaz. He is more like 180 walking. Dude has fought at 155 a bunch of times. 200 pounders aren't doing that.

Conor vs. Max at 145 would be such a great fight. They went the distance in 2013, and Max has improved dramatically since then.

Both strikers, yet polar opposites... Holloway is a volume puncher with superhuman stamina. Conor is a KO artist with a shitty gas tank.

egokiller
09-08-2019, 07:21 PM
Stipe would cut weight and defend the belt 8+ times before retiring but it wouldn

stalkerforlife
09-08-2019, 07:23 PM
Accurate on all counts except for Diaz. He is more like 180 walking. Dude has fought at 155 a bunch of times. 200 pounders aren't doing that.

Conor vs. Max at 145 would be such a great fight. They went the distance in 2013, and Max has improved dramatically since then.

Both strikers, yet polar opposites... Holloway is a volume puncher with superhuman stamina. Conor is a KO artist with a shitty gas tank.

Wrong.

https://www.mmamania.com/2016/7/29/12328536/video-boxing-coach-says-nate-diaz-weighs-nearly-200-lbs-leading-into

Dana has said as much as well.

stalkerforlife
09-08-2019, 07:26 PM
https://www.mmaweekly.com/nate-diaz-confirms-hes-walking-around-at-200-pounds-before-conor-mcgregor-rematch

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/10/5/13172606/ufc-202-mma-news-interview-fight-dana-white-nate-diaz-conor-mcgregor-weight

sd3035
09-08-2019, 08:23 PM
Canor McTapper got obliterated by Khabib

Don't cry OP, Khabib is an average sized LW

stalkerforlife
09-08-2019, 09:15 PM
Canor McTapper got obliterated by Khabib

Don't cry OP, Khabib is an average sized LW

http://www.sportbible.com/ufc/news-mma-khabib-gains-ridiculous-amount-of-weight-ahead-of-ufc-242-20190907

In 24 hours, he gained 17 pounds.

"The second accident is well-known to many of you; it happened in 2017 prior to the UFC 209 bout with Tony Ferguson. Nurmagomedov was hospitalized when he was in the process of cutting weight a night before weigh-ins. Khabib passed out in his hotel room with severe dehydration and kidney problems. Medics had to use the IV and ruled him out of the contest."

"It

stalkerforlife
09-08-2019, 09:21 PM
Khabib knows staying undefeated and not taking risks will fool the novice and give him the best legacy possible.

But people like me know the game he's playing and we see through it.

He's terrified.

Shogon
09-08-2019, 10:49 PM
These guys should be weighed literally every day for like two weeks heading into the fight or whatever amount of time is necessary to avoid that stupid shit. Or maybe just have them weigh in the day of like 5 minutes before with a little more lenience as it pertains to actually hitting the weight.

It makes no sense. You might as well take steroids and cheat. It's the same thing. You're manipulating the rules.

Prometheus
09-08-2019, 10:51 PM
These guys should be weighed literally every day for like two weeks heading into the fight or whatever amount of time is necessary to avoid that stupid shit. Or maybe just have them weigh in the day of like 5 minutes before with a little more lenience as it pertains to actually hitting the weight.

It makes no sense. You might as well take steroids and cheat. It's the same thing. You're manipulating the rules.

Yep. Been saying this for years. They should step on a scale right before the fight begins.

AirTupac
09-08-2019, 11:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Wh5HNDy.png


Khabib destroyed Barboza who walks around at 190+ lbs probably :lol

Mask the Embiid
09-08-2019, 11:04 PM
Cutting massive weight in a short amount of time actually drains you of energy and strength....This thread moves Khabib much higher up my list now that i know this :roll:

stalkerforlife
09-08-2019, 11:23 PM
Cutting massive weight in a short amount of time actually drains you of energy and strength....This thread moves Khabib much higher up my list now that i know this :roll:

Come fight time, he is 15+ pounds heavier than his opponents and can easily lean and lay on them.

He was probably 20 pounds or more heavier than Conor.

Vino24
09-08-2019, 11:35 PM
this brings up an interesting thing. Why is there no cap on heavyweight? what is stopping a 6'8 290lb guy running through that?

AirTupac
09-08-2019, 11:39 PM
"Boxing and UFC weigh-ins happen the day before a fight. Fighters cut water weight to make weight. Some fighters cut 10

stalkerforlife
09-08-2019, 11:46 PM
They all do it, but McGregor moved up in weight class.

Khabib has not.

That's the difference.

Kblaze8855
09-09-2019, 09:57 PM
this brings up an interesting thing. Why is there no cap on heavyweight? what is stopping a 6'8 290lb guy running through that?


I think there is. 265 or so?

Above that is super heavyweight isn

iamgine
09-09-2019, 10:37 PM
Weight cuts have its disadvantages too, especially extreme ones. And it's not like Khabib's opponents don't do weight cuts. Seems like almost everyone does it nowadays.

Also, I haven't seen any fighter who attributes Khabib's dominance to his weight. It's mostly because he's so well versed in his grappling game.

tpols
09-09-2019, 10:58 PM
Mcgregor consistently refered to nate as a "skinny fat bitch "...

Fact is he can't win if he can't knock you out. Diaz absorbed and gassed him with superior skill.

Smoke117
09-09-2019, 11:13 PM
They all do it, but McGregor moved up in weight class.

Khabib has not.

That's the difference.

Conor moved up to and stayed at 155 because of how hard it was to cut to 145. He isn't undersized at lightweight and isn't fighting at a disadvantage whatsoever.

stalkerforlife
09-09-2019, 11:19 PM
Mcgregor consistently refered to nate as a "skinny fat bitch "...

Fact is he can't win if he can't knock you out. Diaz absorbed and gassed him with superior skill.

But he did beat Diaz without knocking him out.

A Diaz that was 190 on fight night.

stalkerforlife
09-09-2019, 11:20 PM
"The second accident is well-known to many of you; it happened in 2017 prior to the UFC 209 bout with Tony Ferguson. Nurmagomedov was hospitalized when he was in the process of cutting weight a night before weigh-ins. Khabib passed out in his hotel room with severe dehydration and kidney problems. Medics had to use the IV and ruled him out of the contest."

"It

tpols
09-09-2019, 11:22 PM
But he did beat Diaz without knocking him out.

A Diaz that was 190 on fight night.


That was fake news.

Nate clearly won but media and money couldn't have the golden boy ($) down 0-2.

stalkerforlife
09-09-2019, 11:24 PM
That was fake news.

Naye clearly won but media and money couldn't have the golden boy ($) down 0-2.

Um, no

Conor clearly won 3 rounds.

Clearly.

Not even debatable.

But you can debate that he won 4 rounds.

Only one round was clear for Nate

tpols
09-09-2019, 11:44 PM
Um, no

Conor clearly won 3 rounds.

Clearly.

Not even debatable.

But you can debate that he won 4 rounds.

Only one round was clear for Nate


Even if we agree to disagree, connor won by decision.

nate won by submission (early).

it's like comparing a blow out to a ray allen jumper.

stalkerforlife
09-09-2019, 11:48 PM
Even if we agree to disagree, connor won by decision.

nate won by submission (early).

it's like comparing a blow out to a ray allen jumper.

Diaz is much bigger, so I just respect Conor for putting his career on the line like he did.

Diaz walks around at 200+.

Khabib certainly doesn't take those risks, but it's good for business to stay undefeated.

Conor can lose and still be the biggest draw because of his personality and ability to sell a fight.

tpols
09-09-2019, 11:59 PM
Diaz is much bigger, so I just respect Conor for putting his career on the line like he did.

Diaz walks around at 200+.

Khabib certainly doesn't take those risks, but it's good for business to stay undefeated.

Conor can lose and still be the biggest draw because of his personality and ability to sell a fight.


no he doesnt lol... he's been a skinny dude his whole life and for a big portion of the time fought at lower than 170.

diaz is the furthest thing from a roided overpower you style fighter.

news flash doe... all fighters cut weight. mcChicken punched above his.

AirTupac
09-10-2019, 12:01 AM
Diaz specifically doesnt workout so he can stay in his weight class. Dude is a beast either way.

stalkerforlife
09-10-2019, 12:16 AM
no he doesnt lol... he's been a skinny dude his whole life and for a big portion of the time fought at lower than 170.

diaz is the furthest thing from a roided overpower you style fighter.

news flash doe... all fighters cut weight. mcChicken punched above his.

Nate confirming he's 200...

https://youtu.be/vXg_Ao9Bqxw

Nate's boxing coach saying he weighs 200...

https://www.mmamania.com/2016/7/29/12328536/video-boxing-coach-says-nate-diaz-weighs-nearly-200-lbs-leading-into

Dana saying he had already went to 190 in 24 hours after the weight in...

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/10/5/13172606/ufc-202-mma-news-interview-fight-dana-white-nate-diaz-conor-mcgregor-weight

These are facts.

stalkerforlife
09-10-2019, 12:23 AM
Chael Sonnen...

Former UFC title challenger Chael Sonnen has claimed that there was a significant difference in weight between Nate Diaz and Conor McGregor when the two faced each other at UFC 196.

"Ok he’s the 145 pound champ and skips 155 and moves all the way up to 170. Covers a three weight spread right there. That just doesn’t happen. Nobody has even attempted it. Let alone done it successfully."

red1
09-12-2019, 01:57 PM
OP why are you still making excuses for conor.


son was the same size as khabib so to act like it's the weight cut being the difference - nah I don't know about that.


thought it was a longshot but I'm thinking we might actually get a khabib GSP fight - khabib's manager said that he walks around at a heavier weight than georges and that they want the fight.

AirTupac
09-12-2019, 02:32 PM
GSP said he still thinks hes the best in the world and he wouldnt be opposed to fighting Khabib.

I would love to see Khabib destroy him. GSP is gonna try to win on points like a fgt

Prometheus
09-12-2019, 04:42 PM
GSP said he still thinks hes the best in the world and he wouldnt be opposed to fighting Khabib.

I would love to see Khabib destroy him. GSP is gonna try to win on points like a fgt

GSP has a very good chance to beat Khabib.

BarberSchool
09-12-2019, 06:52 PM
GSP has a very good chance to beat Khabib.GSP is not a fighter in his heart. He is a workout freak with excellent well rounded skills, and superb lay and pray skills. There is no killer in him. Khabib on the other hand...

red1
09-12-2019, 10:35 PM
GSP is not a fighter in his heart. He is a workout freak with excellent well rounded skills, and superb lay and pray skills. There is no killer in him. Khabib on the other hand...
:roll:


Came back from his only two losses by literally kicking the first guy in the head for a tko and a submission when they fought again and beat the only other guy who beat him by kneeing him in the body so hard so many times that the ref had to call it off - tko by knees to the ribs! :oldlol:


I don't even think it would be a fair fight. only shot khabib would have is GSP being 40 when they fight and would depend on him to lose athleticism. they're the same height at 5'10 but look at the reach - GSP has a 76 inch reach (193 cm) vs khabib at 70 inches (178 cm). bisping has good size for a middleweight at 6'2 but GSP still had a half-inch advantage in terms of reach.


I might even put money on ferguson if he gets the next fight. khabib is better but ferguson DEFINITELY has a chance with that unpredictable high intensity style. it'll depend on the odds.