John Bolton is out

[Facepalm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz_DNrKVrQ8

[Facepalm]

We are less likely to get into another war now, however we are also more likely to get fvcked over by NK, Iran and Russia

[andgar923]

We are less likely to get into another war now, however we are also more likely to get fvcked over by NK, Iran and Russia
I mean, he literally stated that he fired him cause they disagreed on many issues, Im assuming some of those are Russia, NK and Iran.

Bolton was a chickenhawk, but a 'smart' one.

He's probably gonna hire Ted Nugent to replace him.

[SomeBlackDude]

i assume this clears the way for the taliban to come to camp david to help the nation commemorate the 9/11 anniversary tomorrow.


Kaitlan Collins
@kaitlancollins

President Trump was irked by reports that he had faced major internal pushback from Bolton over his decision to host leaders of the Taliban at Camp David, multiple people familiar say.

:confusedshrug:

[andgar923]

i assume this clears the way for the taliban to come to camp david to help the nation commemorate the 9/11 anniversary tomorrow.



:confusedshrug:

The GOP will somehow find this as a great achievement, while Putin is smirking with glee.

[andgar923]

Bolton is stating that HE resigned, not fired.

Who does one believe?

Trump or Bolton???

Easy to see who's lying.

He's texting various journalists stating that HE RESIGNED, obviously taking shots at Trump. Some are stating that he won't go down quietly.... we'll see about that.

[andgar923]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEHcdCiVAAEx9X-?format=jpg&name=large

[SomeBlackDude]

The GOP will somehow find this as a great achievement

they're gonna party like it's 1989.


http://factsanddetails.com/media/2/20120711-MujahideenReagan_meets_Afghan_Mujahideen.jpg



while Putin is smirking with glee.

da fuq?


Julia Davis
@JuliaDavisNews

#Russia's state media:
Draft peace agreement between the Taliban and the Trump admin said that U.S. forces will leave five bases in Afghanistan within 135 days of signing the document, the U.S. & the Taliban insist that Russia be present at the possible signing of the agreements.

https://i.postimg.cc/RhnQ0W20/image.png

*should be noted- the kremlin has been selling weapons to the taliban (https://www.cbsnews.com/video/russia-allegedly-supplying-taliban-with-weapons/), who in turn have been using them to slaughter 'murrican military personnel and civilians.

but rusher is running the show on bald eagle-taliban negotiations?

:biggums:

[andgar923]

Trump just on Monday was crying like the pvssyassbitch that he is about reports of infighting due to disagreements within the administration.

You can't make this up.

You know the media is right when he says they're wrong.

[TheMan]

Bolton is stating that HE resigned, not fired.

Who does one believe?

Trump or Bolton???

Easy to see who's lying.

He's texting various journalists stating that HE RESIGNED, obviously taking shots at Trump. Some are stating that he won't go down quietly.... we'll see about that.
Trump is an idiot, no doubt but come on...the White House is better off without that warhawk there. It's obvious Trump wasn't giving in to Bolton's urging for war, give the retard a bit of credit here. Still don't understand why he was hired in the first place.

[andgar923]

Trump is an idiot, no doubt but come on...the White House is better off without that warhawk there. It's obvious Trump wasn't giving in to Bolton's urging for war, give the retard a bit of credit here. Still don't understand why he was hired in the first place.
Who's worse...

The smart evil or the idiot evil working for Putin?

[TheMan]

Who's worse...

The smart evil or the idiot evil working for Putin?
So you'd rather have Bolton convince Trump to start a war with Iran? That's the worst case scenario IMO.

I realize that Trump is in Putin's pocket but it's not like you're gonna see Russian tanks rolling down 5th Avenue. Putin is free to run roughshod over his part of the world but NATO is still a thing and Dems need to oust Trump, and they have a pretty good shot seeing as to how much Trump is fukking over the Rust Belt states that gave him the presidency. Calm down.

[rufuspaul]

So you'd rather have Bolton convince Trump to start a war with Iran? That's the worst case scenario IMO.

I realize that Trump is in Putin's pocket but it's not like you're gonna see Russian tanks rolling down 5th Avenue. Putin is free to run roughshod over his part of the world but NATO is still a thing and Dems need to oust Trump, and they have a pretty good shot seeing as to how much Trump is fukking over the Rust Belt states that gave him the presidency. Calm down.


This. Andgar is borderline tinfoil hat atm.

For all his faults Trump does not want a war.

[TheMan]

This. Andgar is borderline tinfoil hat atm.

For all his faults Trump does not want a war.
Yeah, and unlike others with TDS, I actually give him props for not dragging us into another war...Trump likes to talk tough but he hasn't given in to the neo-cons who want dat money for the Military Industrial Complex, and you know they are doing their best to convince him to start a war somewhere.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Over/under: 1.5 new National Security Advisors before 2021.

John Bolton is/was terrible. But the fact that Trump has had 3 of them before he's had a full 3 years in office is one more clear indicator that something is wrong. Recognize the fact that his first pick is doing time for lying to the FBI about his contact with the Russian Ambassador. A charge he plead guilty to. The two advisors since have left because the man that picked them for the job could not accept their opinions and advice. Jim Mattis resigned his post as Defense Secretary because he could not deal with the President. The President has had meetings with Putin that no one else in our government knows the details of, with the President confiscating the translator's notes and showing them to no one.

He ordered his chief of staff to give his son-in-law a top-secret security clearance overruling the concerns of intelligence officials that deemed him too great a security risk. Seriously, why do we need Jared Kushner to do whatever it is that he does? Why is he qualified for negotiating in the Mid East and whatever else? What makes him so special that he should be put in a senior advisory position when he's been flagged as a security risk? They couldn't find anyone qualified that could pass a background check?

Meanwhile the President has made sure that no one knows the details to his finances.Who is the last President to completely seal his taxes?

[Lakers Legend#32]

When you're too crazy even for Trump.

[andgar923]

So you'd rather have Bolton convince Trump to start a war with Iran? That's the worst case scenario IMO.

I realize that Trump is in Putin's pocket but it's not like you're gonna see Russian tanks rolling down 5th Avenue. Putin is free to run roughshod over his part of the world but NATO is still a thing and Dems need to oust Trump, and they have a pretty good shot seeing as to how much Trump is fukking over the Rust Belt states that gave him the presidency. Calm down.
You're not understanding the severity of having Trump as Putin's bitch.

Putin wants to shape the world and dethrone the US while he's at it.

But perhaps the biggest and scariest issue is nuclear weapons. Putin wants to make them, he wants NK to make them, he wants to start a WW3 and use nukes.

One main issue with that is Trump has been in love with nukes since the 80s. As war happy as Bolton was, he wasn't gonna put us in the position where Russia would have the upper hand and control entire regions. He wasn't gonna allow Putin to produce nukes at will.

NK is not only accelerating their nuke program, they've made submarines with nuclear capabilities.

Without Bolton or someone telling Trump "NO", Trump will sell out the US, it's allies, it's resources, it's strategic positioning etc.

So yeah, Bolton is evil. But he wasn't gonna start pulling troops out of Afghanistan to give Russia control of it, the region, and the oil there. There's a huge reason why Putin wants to be there. Our men will get slaughtered when we pull out. And we'll start to see us pull out of areas in the name of 'peace' when in reality we're gonna give Putin control and endanger our men, and the lives of hundreds of thousands if not millions.

[andgar923]

Hmmm....

I may have to eat my own words, apparently I didn't know enough.

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1171517624439586816?s=20

I assumed that he didn't want to give Russia control, I was completely wrong. It appears he was appointed by Putin all along.

[Patrick Chewing]

^^ This guy is not mentally well.

[falc39]

This is a great move but at the same time should've never been hired

[Celtics 1825]

Good. Thank god that war hawk is gone, although he'll probably be replaced by someone just as bad if not worse

[rufuspaul]

Good. Thank god that war hawk is gone, although he'll probably be replaced by someone just as bad if not worse


Possibly but I don't think so. Trump wants to be seen as the guy who can talk to anyone and make a deal. He wants face-to-face meetings with our enemies: Rouhani, Kim Jung Un, the Taliban, etc. Whether those gestures amount to anything is speculation but Trump is open to direct talks which is a good starting point in avoiding armed conflict.

[SomeBlackDude]

Possibly but I don't think so. Trump wants to be seen as the guy who can talk to anyone and make a deal. He wants face-to-face meetings with our enemies: Rouhani, Kim Jung Un, the Taliban, etc. Whether those gestures amount to anything is speculation but Trump is open to direct talks which is a good starting point in avoiding armed conflict.

:lol

it's the exact opposite actually.

perfect example is the taliban fiasco. there was a peace deal in place (in principle) that had been negotiated over 9 rounds of ultra sensitive talks. the reason the deal fell apart is the emperor wanting a reality tv moment with the taliban on US soil on the week of 9/11 :facepalm . he wanted to project the (false) image of him as a master deal maker and have a public signing of an agreement he had nothing to do with. naturally the taliban didn't want to be used as reality tv props and balked. now the troops aren't coming home and the taliban is increasing attacks.

completely unnecessary.

same with the stupid summits with lil kim. i've lost count of how many missile tests NK has conducted since the last meeting collapsed. just today lil kim announced the successful test of his new multiple rocket launcher (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-korea-confirms-second-test-launch-multiple-rocket-launcher-says-kim-jong-un-observed/).

when exactly are these 'great deals' going to actually be done?

maga had a face to face with xi dada... ended with a trade war that'll lead to a global recession.

multiple summits with lil kim... he's launching missiles like they're going out of style.

wanted to bring the taliban to camp david... the peace deal evaporated.

i assume this is some 4d chess shit from the bestselling art of the deal?

:confusedshrug:

[rufuspaul]

From what I've read Bolton had a lot to do with the Taliban thing falling through. Maybe something will get done with him out of the picture.

[SomeBlackDude]

From what I've read Bolton had a lot to do with the Taliban thing falling through.

as an unabashed warmonger, he obviously didn't want to pursue a peace deal with the taliban. but the major issue between him and the emperor was the invite to camp david. the deal was already in place, with or without bolton's support.


Maybe something will get done with him out of the picture.

something was done (https://www.thedailybeast.com/zalmay-khalilzad-says-afghan-taliban-agree-in-principle-to-peace-deal-but-they-scoff-at-trumps-bluff). that's the point. there was a deal in place, took 9 high level negotiations in doha. all that was needed was the emperor and the president of afghanistan's signatures.

the taliban was under the impression that all the needed signatures would be done before their arrival stateside. but naturally, the emperor wanted to make a scene and spectacle and make believe he personally negotiated a great deal with the taliban. obviously that was bullshit and the taliban said f*ck that. and in response, the emperor cancelled the camp david shindig and made believe the reason was one of countless taliban-engineered attacks.

the real reason was hurt feelings over his reality tv spectacle being taken away from him.

thousands of troops won't be coming home because of one man's out of control ego.

maga.

[rufuspaul]

as an unabashed warmonger, he obviously didn't want to pursue a peace deal with the taliban. but the major issue between him and the emperor was the invite to camp david. the deal was already in place, with or without bolton's support.



something was done (https://www.thedailybeast.com/zalmay-khalilzad-says-afghan-taliban-agree-in-principle-to-peace-deal-but-they-scoff-at-trumps-bluff). that's the point. there was a deal in place, took 9 high level negotiations in doha. all that was needed was the emperor and the president of afghanistan's signatures.

the taliban was under the impression that all the needed signatures would be done before their arrival stateside. but naturally, the emperor wanted to make a scene and spectacle and make believe he personally negotiated a great deal with the taliban. obviously that was bullshit and the taliban said f*ck that. and in response, the emperor cancelled the camp david shindig and made believe the reason was one of countless taliban-engineered attacks.

the real reason was hurt feelings over his reality tv spectacle being taken away from him.

thousands of troops won't be coming home because of one man's out of control ego.

maga.


Interesting. And who is your source on all this?

[SomeBlackDude]

Interesting. And who is your source on all this?

the taliban. :ohwell:

[rufuspaul]

the taliban. :ohwell:

:lol Well why didn't you say so? They seem like trustworthy gents.

[dude77]

https://i.postimg.cc/Twm7Rg5c/image.jpg

[Cleverness]

Republicans when Bolton in: Great move by Trump
Republicans when Bolton out: Great move by Trump

Democrats when Bolton in: Bad move by Trump
Democrats when Bolton out: Bad move by Trump

[MaxFly]

I think this is one of the better moves Trump has made, though Bolton has insisted that he resigned rather than that he was asked to resign or fired. Interesting...

[Nanners]

Republicans when Bolton in: Great move by Trump
Republicans when Bolton out: Great move by Trump

Democrats when Bolton in: Bad move by Trump
Democrats when Bolton out: Bad move by Trump

:oldlol:

well said. you have been on a roll lately

[BlakFrankWhite]

Trump is starting to grow on me.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Tucker Carlson said Bolton is a leftist.
Must be why Dubya and Trump had him in their administrations but not Obama.