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Charlie Sheen
09-14-2019, 03:40 PM
...because I couldn't find the old one :confusedshrug:
Devin Haney fought last night and did what he was supposed to do in an absolute show. He's posturing for Loma and I really hope it doesn't happen. Prefer to see him step up to 140 if he can't find any competition at 135. I don't think he can beat Loma right now.
Canelo moving up to face Kovalev :eek: https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/status/1172570160281993216 [QUOTE]
Dan Rafael
Verified account @danrafaelespn
160 champ @Canelo moving up 2 divisions to challenge @KrusherKovalev for his 175 title in Nov. 2 mega fight. My story w/ details on how it came together: https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/27607491/canelo-climbing-2-weight-classes-fight-kovalev
SomeBlackDude
09-14-2019, 03:42 PM
not the best fighter but cinnamon has nuts the size of bowling balls :applause:
stalkerforlife
09-14-2019, 03:55 PM
Is boxing still rigging it for Canelo?
highwhey
09-14-2019, 04:01 PM
That's too much of a weight difference for Canelo, not smart at all. It's definitely entertaining tho, unlike Floyd who only secured easy fights so he could rack up W's. Canelo at least has shown he'll fight anyone and will change weight dramatically to do so...balls of steel.
Charlie Sheen
09-14-2019, 04:01 PM
Kovalev is gonna be a dangerous fighter. He has to know his back is against the wall wih stoppage/ko being his only path to victory or he hasn't paid any attention to this man's career. Judges aren't getting in the way of that 4 division legacy.
Manny98
09-15-2019, 07:00 AM
Why is Fury so shook to fight Wilder :oldlol:
plowking
09-15-2019, 07:22 AM
Why is Fury so shook to fight Wilder :oldlol:
Imagine knowing you can beat someone, but no matter what, the other guy gets the result.
SomeBlackDude
09-15-2019, 12:10 PM
fury looked terrible last night, even before the cut.
those cuts were deep and nasty too. he'll need plastic surgery to repair it and months of recovery. fury-wilder 2 will have to postponed most likely.
stalkerforlife
09-15-2019, 02:12 PM
Wilder gonna knock my boy Fury out in the rematch.
Shogon
09-15-2019, 04:53 PM
Imagine knowing you can beat someone, but no matter what, the other guy gets the result.
It's not that he can beat him. It's that he DID beat him.
It would be like if Michael Jordan played 1 on 1 with Charles Barkley playing to 9 points and Michael Jordan scored 9 points and Barkley scored 3 points but one of Barkley's baskets was a really really nasty poster dunk and the ref magically decided that they both scored the same amount of points and it was called a draw.
Everyone who watched that fight knows Fury won. Just because some shitty corrupt humans called it another way doesn't mean anything.
I wonder if Fury is suffering from not giving a **** after proving to himself he was still the best in the world.
dude77
09-15-2019, 04:59 PM
they were really gonna let him go back out with that glob of vaseline on the cut smh lol ... haven't seen the whole thing but fury was probably bored with this fight .. he fights to the level of his opponent .. he'll be fine for the wilder rematch
lol@representin mexico
Smoke117
09-15-2019, 06:23 PM
lol Why is this stickied? Nobody cares about boxing here. I can't even remember the last time ANY thread was stickied on the off court lounge so why is this dumb ass thread stickied? :lol
highwhey
09-15-2019, 06:48 PM
lol Why is this stickied? Nobody cares about boxing here. I can't even remember the last time ANY thread was stickied on the off court lounge so why is this dumb ass thread stickied? :lol
jeff trying to make this place look somewhat alive :lol
Wally450
09-15-2019, 08:53 PM
Logan Paul KSI 2 is the fight to see.
plowking
09-16-2019, 08:12 AM
Logan Paul KSI 2 is the fight to see.
Logan will crush him in the rematch.
Dude actually has a nice jab, and some solid movement early.
Wally450
09-16-2019, 11:54 AM
Logan will crush him in the rematch.
Dude actually has a nice jab, and some solid movement early.
I agree. the jab was keeping KSI from really coming forward. He did say he wasn't taking Logan seriously, idk how much of that is true. With no head guards now, they both have to take things a little more serious.
Charlie Sheen
09-16-2019, 05:18 PM
they were really gonna let him go back out with that glob of vaseline on the cut smh lol ... haven't seen the whole thing but fury was probably bored with this fight .. he fights to the level of his opponent .. he'll be fine for the wilder rematch
lol@representin mexico
I liked his entrance :lol
Charlie Sheen
09-27-2019, 10:52 AM
Spence down to -800 favorite. He was -1100 on bovada when I looked Monday.
That Benavidez -1000 line has barely budged. Nobody thinks Dirrell is taking anything but a beating Saturday night and I don't disagree.
Found this on Reddit. 2006 US Championships Danny Jacobs vs. Shawn Porter (https://youtu.be/8G0Q0P77wEo)
1987_Lakers
09-29-2019, 01:00 AM
Spence getting worked by Porter. Wow
SomeBlackDude
09-29-2019, 01:07 AM
Spence getting worked by Porter. Wow
f*ck, didn't get the fight cause it looked like a bit of a mismatch on paper. i'm seeing it's a fight of the year candidate. :facepalm
has porter done enough to beat the rigged scorecards?
1987_Lakers
09-29-2019, 01:12 AM
Fight of the year.
Charlie Sheen
09-29-2019, 01:18 AM
f*ck, didn't get the fight cause it looked like a bit of a mismatch on paper. i'm seeing it's a fight of the year candidate. :facepalm
has porter done enough to beat the rigged scorecards?
No, but he did more than enough for a rematch.
1987_Lakers
09-29-2019, 01:21 AM
f*ck, didn't get the fight cause it looked like a bit of a mismatch on paper. i'm seeing it's a fight of the year candidate. :facepalm
has porter done enough to beat the rigged scorecards?
Porter was pretty reckless the whole fight, stalking Spence all night, made the fight tough, but his recklessness left him open alot to Spence counters, Porter to me landed the more effective punches, but Spence landed more punches and looked more technical, Porter got knocked down in the 11th by a beautiful shot by Spence. They gave it to Spence on a split decision, can't hate on that, but a much better fight than expected. Porter earned alot of people's respect tonight.
Charlie Sheen
09-29-2019, 01:28 AM
Porter was pretty reckless the whole fight, stalking Spence all night, made the fight tough, but his recklessness left him open alot to Spence counters, Porter to me landed the more effective punches, but Spence landed more punches and looked more technical, Porter got knocked down in the 11th by a beautiful shot by Spence. They gave it to Spence on a split decision, can't hate on that, but a much better fight than expected. Porter earned alot of people's respect tonight.
Porter was technical too. His footwork getting off the ropes and reversing position to put Spence on the ropes was there all night. Not saying you're wrong about being reckless, he was letting his hands go. Nobody has put that kind of pressure on Spence. They put on a show.
Im so nba'd out
09-29-2019, 01:31 AM
Porter showed he's world class tonight.Great win for Errol.
#2 PVP off that win
black > white
plowking
09-29-2019, 03:09 AM
f*ck, didn't get the fight cause it looked like a bit of a mismatch on paper. i'm seeing it's a fight of the year candidate. :facepalm
has porter done enough to beat the rigged scorecards?
I had it 6 to 5 going into the 12th, and Spence had a knockdown as well.
Then Spence won the last.
SD win seems pretty fair especially as some rounds were really close.
Wally450
09-29-2019, 10:43 AM
I had 114-113 Porter. Easily could've gone either way. I have no problem with Spence winning but some of those wide score cards are questionable.
sdot_thadon
10-05-2019, 08:03 PM
GGG vs derevyanchenko tonight. main card starts at 9pm. GGG should win comfortably.
Pointguard
10-09-2019, 12:33 AM
GGG vs derevyanchenko tonight. main card starts at 9pm. GGG should win comfortably.
I had GGG winning only the first and I think the 9th? round. That guy thoroughly beat him despite being knocked down in the first. He hurt triple G to the body a good three or four times. Derevyanchenko is a real fighter. Bad to see boxing giving guys who are dominating fights a loss.
the mesiah
10-10-2019, 02:34 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/10/10/boxer-errol-spence-jr-seriously-injured-rollover-crash-dallas/amp/
#strapseason doesn
SomeBlackDude
10-10-2019, 02:53 PM
[QUOTE=the mesiah]https://www.google.com/amp/s/dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/10/10/boxer-errol-spence-jr-seriously-injured-rollover-crash-dallas/amp/
#strapseason doesn
Wally450
11-09-2019, 08:53 PM
KSI Logan Paul 2 tonight.
I got KSI by decision. Wish it went longer than 6 rounds...
Mask the Embiid
11-09-2019, 09:07 PM
Logan has the physical advantage and KSI has the genetic advantage.Gonna be a tough fight to pick but i got KSI winning by stoppage in 5 or 6.
Manny98
11-09-2019, 09:23 PM
White vs Black
US vs UK
KSI will win by TKO :banana:
Manny98
11-10-2019, 12:13 AM
Logan Paul looking shook :roll:
Wally450
11-10-2019, 12:36 AM
White vs Black
US vs UK
KSI will win by TKO :banana:
Only thing I agree with you on. Although, I think Logan's stamina is good enough to get him through the fight.
Manny98
11-10-2019, 12:49 AM
Dis nikka :roll: :roll: :roll:
EricGordon23
11-10-2019, 12:51 AM
link?
Manny98
11-10-2019, 12:54 AM
link?
http://crackstreams.com/boxingstreams/watch-dazn-ksi-vs-paul/
Manny98
11-10-2019, 01:01 AM
The Nightmare :bowdown: :bowdown:
plowking
11-10-2019, 01:41 AM
lol Logan Paul dominated him and they gave KSI the win.
Hilarious.
highwhey
11-10-2019, 01:42 AM
youtubers fighting is now considered boxing?
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Wally450
11-10-2019, 01:42 AM
Ayy lets go KSI!
Mask the Embiid
11-10-2019, 01:43 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/hhFFfX5D/1547333164731040.gif
MAGA fam in complete and utter shambles."Damn it i thought we were gonna win this time"
Wally450
11-10-2019, 01:43 AM
lol Logan Paul dominated him and they gave KSI the win.
Hilarious.
There were round where he was lucky if he landed 1 punch.
Manny98
11-10-2019, 01:43 AM
Let's f*cking goooooooo :rockon:
#blackexcellence :hammertime:
stalkerforlife
11-10-2019, 01:44 AM
Wtf Logan clearly won!
More punches landed and hurt KSI!
stalkerforlife
11-10-2019, 01:44 AM
Even amateur boxing is corrupt lol
plowking
11-10-2019, 01:45 AM
There were round where he was lucky if he landed 1 punch.
You serious?
KSI did a whole lot of nothing while Paul landed pitter patter jabs.
Not to mention taking 2 points off in a 6 round fight. :oldlol:
Logan won, lets not kid ourselves. Both of these guys are idiots, but it is plenty obvious to see who took more damage, and who won the fight.
Manny98
11-10-2019, 01:47 AM
We are superior simple as that :applause:
https://media.giphy.com/media/bwQC3I1vUytIk/giphy.gif
stalkerforlife
11-10-2019, 01:48 AM
We are superior simple as that :applause:
https://media.giphy.com/media/bwQC3I1vUytIk/giphy.gif
Logan won.
Be real.
Im so nba'd out
11-10-2019, 01:50 AM
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AlienatedHappygoluckyInvisiblerail-size_restricted.gif
Wally450
11-10-2019, 01:53 AM
You serious?
KSI did a whole lot of nothing while Paul landed pitter patter jabs.
Not to mention taking 2 points off in a 6 round fight. :oldlol:
Logan won, lets not kid ourselves. Both of these guys are idiots, but it is plenty obvious to see who took more damage, and who won the fight.
Pitter patter jabs if they landed. That's all he threw for a couple of those rounds. KSI was the busier fighter and dictating the pace. That's what won him the fight.
plowking
11-10-2019, 01:58 AM
Pitter patter jabs if they landed. That's all he threw for a couple of those rounds. KSI was the busier fighter and dictating the pace. That's what won him the fight.
Dude please.
Being busier and putting the pace on doesn't mean jack if you don't land punches.
Essentially you're saying KSI won 3 round in there due to the 2 point deduction.
I gave him the 3rd and maybe the 6th. There isn't a single other round he did anything.
qrich
11-10-2019, 01:58 AM
Cant believe y'all wasting breath on that abhorrent display.
Anyways, Haney v Garcia needs to happen
Manny98
11-23-2019, 05:45 PM
Wilder bout to knock df out of Ortiz tonight :rockon:
SomeBlackDude
11-23-2019, 05:59 PM
Wilder bout to knock df out of Ortiz tonight :rockon:
if ortiz was like 5 years younger, he'd win pretty easily. last time he was giving deontay an old fashioned boxing lesson, but he ran out of gas late. can't imagine he'll do any better being even older this time around.
Manny98
11-24-2019, 07:07 AM
Another one bites za dust
https://media.giphy.com/media/ZEH3QwkmIm6RBgjGIk/giphy.gif
egokiller
11-24-2019, 10:17 AM
https://media.giphy.com/media/mDY5s3MomYgbm/giphy.gif
Manny98
12-07-2019, 05:10 PM
Ruiz about to be gassed by the 4th round with all that weight he's carrying:roll:
qrich
12-07-2019, 05:16 PM
Boxing world needs Povektin-Hunter Duex
Manny98
12-07-2019, 05:32 PM
Joshua putting on a clinic so far:applause:
qrich
12-07-2019, 05:44 PM
Joshua knows the only way he can get the dub is with the scorecards, doesn't want to get into a fight.
Manny98
12-07-2019, 05:44 PM
Ruiz with the cheap shots, typical Mexican shit :lol
qrich
12-07-2019, 06:07 PM
Joshua tries this game plan against Fury or Wilder and dude will be laid to rest
Manny98
12-07-2019, 06:08 PM
2 easy :hammertime:
1987_Lakers
12-07-2019, 06:10 PM
First fight was way more entertaining.
stalkerforlife
12-07-2019, 06:46 PM
LMFAO.
Joshua scared to FIGHT.
Ruiz still the badder man.
Put them in a fight to death and Ruiz ends his life.
highwhey
12-07-2019, 07:08 PM
LMFAO.
Joshua scared to FIGHT.
Ruiz still the badder man.
Put them in a fight to death and Ruiz ends his life.
Agreed.
qrich
12-07-2019, 07:10 PM
LMFAO.
Joshua scared to FIGHT.
Ruiz still the badder man.
Put them in a fight to death and Ruiz ends his life.
Dude went out there and box'd, followed his game plan.
Ruiz shouldn't have came into this shit overweight and out of shape, he was tired after trying to break the defense with a couple punches.
Had he been in shape, he'd have been able to get through the D easily.
The better boxer won.
Mask the Embiid
12-07-2019, 09:12 PM
LMFAO.
Joshua scared to FIGHT.
Ruiz still the badder man.
Put them in a fight to death and Ruiz ends his life.
The goal of boxing is to hit and not get hit....this isn't a tough man, blow for blow,lets fight like we're in a phone booth sport.....
very boring fight tho.I wont be watching the 3rd....yawn
dude77
12-08-2019, 12:26 AM
nice adjustments by joshua .. dropped some weight and changed his game plan and stuck to it winning out on points .. he got the job done .. but like stalker said, if you look at it from another angle you can say he was trying to stay away from ruiz because he was scared of getting too close for fear of getting ko'd .. he was forced to gameplan a decision win on points because he was scared of getting into it with ruiz who looks like a fat middle aged mechanic .. not the best look for the 'composed and ferocious finisher' smh lol
qrich
12-08-2019, 02:14 AM
Lemieux with a solid debut at 168!
iamgine
12-08-2019, 03:52 AM
nice adjustments by joshua .. dropped some weight and changed his game plan and stuck to it winning out on points .. he got the job done .. but like stalker said, if you look at it from another angle you can say he was trying to stay away from ruiz because he was scared of getting too close for fear of getting ko'd .. he was forced to gameplan a decision win on points because he was scared of getting into it with ruiz who looks like a fat middle aged mechanic .. not the best look for the 'composed and ferocious finisher' smh lol
I don't know about this kind of take. Seems to me like a routine night for a world class fighter who outclass his opponent. Muhammad Ali would've done the same thing to Ruiz, except maybe with a lot more....taunting and entertainment.
step_back
12-08-2019, 04:42 AM
If you're the taller fighter and Joshua looks a good 5/6 inches taller than Ruiz you would be a moron to fight on the inside with him. Get behind your jab and keep him out of range. Boxing isn't a brawl.
dude77
12-08-2019, 05:27 AM
I don't know about this kind of take. Seems to me like a routine night for a world class fighter who outclass his opponent. Muhammad Ali would've done the same thing to Ruiz, except maybe with a lot more....taunting and entertainment.
If you're the taller fighter and Joshua looks a good 5/6 inches taller than Ruiz you would be a moron to fight on the inside with him. Get behind your jab and keep him out of range. Boxing isn't a brawl.
yeah I don't disagree with this at all .. he outboxed ruiz and beat him .. just saying that this time around he respected ruiz's punch and never tried to take him out(like he's done with every other opponent) because it would've put himself in a vulnerable position .. something he's never been concerned about before .. he just goes in there and knocks the guy out .. not with ruiz .. that's all I'm saying .. all in all, it's a good sign that he made adjustments and showed some iq out there .. good sign for him going forward ..
ruiz is a disgrace .. I don't wanna see that fat slob again to be honest lol .. what an opportunity of a lifetime to consolidate his last win and show it wasn't a fluke and you let yourself go and look like dog shit before the fight with 6 months to prepare ? then like a moron he says he'll be in great shape for the third fight lol foh joshua did it the right way and redeemed himself from a terrible loss .. props to him
step_back
12-08-2019, 08:49 AM
yeah I don't disagree with this at all .. he outboxed ruiz and beat him .. just saying that this time around he respected ruiz's punch and never tried to take him out(like he's done with every other opponent) because it would've put himself in a vulnerable position .. something he's never been concerned about before .. he just goes in there and knocks the guy out .. not with ruiz .. that's all I'm saying .. all in all, it's a good sign that he made adjustments and showed some iq out there .. good sign for him going forward ..
ruiz is a disgrace .. I don't wanna see that fat slob again to be honest lol .. what an opportunity of a lifetime to consolidate his last win and show it wasn't a fluke and you let yourself go and look like dog shit before the fight with 6 months to prepare ? then like a moron he says he'll be in great shape for the third fight lol foh joshua did it the right way and redeemed himself from a terrible loss .. props to him
I like Ruiz as a person but you're spot on. He made life changing money from the 1st fight. Hire a personal chef and nutritionist to prepare all your food and just eat what they give you. He most likely will get that 3rd fight but he doesn't deserve another opportunity. He's a professional athlete for **** sake, behave like one.:facepalm
iamgine
12-09-2019, 04:17 AM
Fury - Wilder II on February 2020
Joshua - Usyk on March 2020
Winner fight each other around September. :rockon:
dude77
12-09-2019, 06:10 AM
I'm hearing pulev joshua as a possibility .. he better fight usyk .. pulev already got his ass handled by klitschko and joshua has now adopted some of klistchko's style .. probably be the same result against joshua .. let's see what the new blood usyk can do
Manny98
02-22-2020, 04:36 PM
Tonights the night, fight of the decade :rockon:
Black vs White, who do y'all think will win?
qrich
02-25-2020, 11:22 PM
Excited for the Mikey Garcia fight, after a near-year lay off after losing to Spence, he needs to be active from the start. Really want to see Haney-Mikey since Ryan is too busy chasing, what should be, convincing wins against Linares and Campbell before a test versus Tank.
Really want Ryan-Haney to happen.
That Yafai-Chocolatito fight on the UC is going to be damn fun too, along with seeing Pacheco get another easy W.
Lebron23
03-01-2020, 09:01 PM
Solid win by Garcia and Chocolito yesterday.
insidehoops
03-07-2020, 10:18 PM
Who do you say are the best boxers in the world right now?
John Connor
03-07-2020, 11:33 PM
Who do you say are the best boxers in the world right now?
It's a bit of a disingenuous question on some level because comparing weight classes is almost impossible.
That being said, if I had to name one guy... it's Tyson Fury. If you were magically able to 'adjust' his agility upward proportionately to reducing his size in some fantasy land scenario, as smaller people typically are more agile for obvious reasons, it would be even more abundantly clear.
Even with just how he is right now, there's no one better. There's no one on the planet that is as good at the entire combination of the following three things... avoiding hits, taking hits, distributing hits.
Fury is insanely slippery for someone that size.
Wally450
03-08-2020, 01:08 AM
Who do you say are the best boxers in the world right now?
Still Floyd. He could come back and fight Canelo at 154 and take every round from him. No joke.
In b4 people get mad.
step_back
03-08-2020, 02:38 PM
Who do you say are the best boxers in the world right now?
Right now Lomachenko is the best pound for pound fighter on the planet.
Canelo, Usyk, Fury are all elite too.
Mask the Embiid
10-19-2020, 12:28 AM
Right now Lomachenko is the best pound for pound fighter on the planet.
Canelo, Usyk, Fury are all elite too.
https://talksport.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2020/10/Eklo1edWkAAIlj1.jpg?strip=all&quality=100&w=1200&h=800&crop=1
:roll:
glidedrxlr22
10-19-2020, 09:53 AM
That was a pretty good Lomachenko vs Lopez fight. I agree Lopez did win. He gunned it in the 12th round. I agree with the announcers...those scores were a little too lopsided.
Jasper
10-19-2020, 11:25 PM
That was a pretty good Lomachenko vs Lopez fight. I agree Lopez did win. He gunned it in the 12th round. I agree with the announcers...those scores were a little too lopsided.
one of the best fights I had ever seen... I suspect a rematch in the making...
Loma had not fought in a while , but he was a master... Lopez just out punched him.
* Lopez was rocked a few times and 8-10 looked pretty fatigued.
Vragrant
10-22-2020, 11:05 PM
one of the best fights I had ever seen... I suspect a rematch in the making...
Loma had not fought in a while , but he was a master... Lopez just out punched him.
* Lopez was rocked a few times and 8-10 looked pretty fatigued.
Loma declined a rematch clause in the contract. Teo says he's not giving him one either, as he felt Loma disrespected him by not including one in the contract.
Pointguard
11-03-2020, 10:10 AM
one of the best fights I had ever seen... I suspect a rematch in the making...
Loma had not fought in a while , but he was a master... Lopez just out punched him.
* Lopez was rocked a few times and 8-10 looked pretty fatigued.
Why was it good to you? I expect it to be the worse of the light weight fights - Tank fight was better, I expect Devin Haney fight to be better and even Ryan Garcia's fight to be better. Loma rarely threw punches for six rounds and was outboxed in the 12th round by an inexperienced boxer. Not good when a fight goes 12 rounds and neither fighter shows an outstanding quality. Loma has gotten knocked down by several wimpy fighters and was noticeably scared of Lopez who doesn't punch like Tank. Haney is bigger than Lopez and way more skilled with his feet and hands. Tank punches harder than all of them.
LoneyROY7
11-03-2020, 05:23 PM
Why was it good to you? I expect it to be the worse of the light weight fights - Tank fight was better, I expect Devin Haney fight to be better and even Ryan Garcia's fight to be better. Loma rarely threw punches for six rounds and was outboxed in the 12th round by an inexperienced boxer. Not good when a fight goes 12 rounds and neither fighter shows an outstanding quality. Loma has gotten knocked down by several wimpy fighters and was noticeably scared of Lopez who doesn't punch like Tank. Haney is bigger than Lopez and way more skilled with his feet and hands. Tank punches harder than all of them.
2-time email champ Devin Haney?
Teo would slap that boy around.
Pointguard
11-03-2020, 06:16 PM
2-time email champ Devin Haney?
Teo would slap that boy around.
Loma wanted no parts of Devin and took the franchise belt to avoid him. And jumped at the chance to get to Teo. Teo was one of a few fighters to not stagger Loma in his like four of his last five fights. Teo could not win a bout on points with Haney. You dreaming.
LoneyROY7
11-03-2020, 06:27 PM
Loma wanted no parts of Devin and took the franchise belt to avoid him. And jumped at the chance to get to Teo. Teo was one of a few fighters to not stagger Loma in his like four of his last five fights. Teo could not win a bout on points with Haney. You dreaming.
Haney has faced a grand total of ZERO impressive fighters. Meanwhile, Teo is dominating a 12 round match with the best p4p boxer at the time. Haney likes to talk a lot, Teo walks it.
Pointguard
11-04-2020, 09:53 AM
Haney has faced a grand total of ZERO impressive fighters. Meanwhile, Teo is dominating a 12 round match with the best p4p boxer at the time. Haney likes to talk a lot, Teo walks it.
Teo looked bad against an overated guy who wasn't throwing punches. Teo was given the first 6 rounds and then inexplicably loses the next five to a guy he doesn't fear??? To a guy that fought like 90% of his fights against amateur's. A guy who has gotten knocked down by or lost to nearly half of his professional opponents??? He lost to a journey man in his second fight. Loma loses once every 8 fights and only has 16 professional fights??? Only one real impressive win in his career and has two big time losses. Amazingly is still ranked top 6 P4P. Its a joke. Teo had 11 below average rounds in a 12 round fight and then immediately wanted to run out of the best fighting class in boxing. Why? is he scared of several fighters?
LoneyROY7
11-04-2020, 09:57 AM
Teo looked bad against an overated guy who wasn't throwing punches. Teo was given the first 6 rounds and then inexplicably loses the next five to a guy he doesn't fear??? To a guy that fought like 90% of his fights against amateur's. A guy who has gotten knocked down by or lost to nearly half of his professional opponents??? He lost to a journey man in his second fight. Loma loses once every 8 fights and only has 16 professional fights??? Only one real impressive win in his career and has two big time losses. Amazingly is still ranked top 6 P4P. Its a joke. Teo had 11 below average rounds in a 12 round fight and then immediately wanted to run out of the best fighting class in boxing. Why? is he scared of several fighters?
Literally no one else saw the fight that way. Not immediate post-fight reaction, not a week post-fight reaction. Literally no one. :oldlol:
That's a terrible take. Sorry.
Pointguard
11-04-2020, 05:53 PM
Literally no one else saw the fight that way. Not immediate post-fight reaction, not a week post-fight reaction. Literally no one. :oldlol:
That's a terrible take. Sorry.
You are just repeating what you read or the little that you did read: https://www.google.com/search?q=loma+didn%27t+throw+punches+Lopez&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS836US836&oq=loma+didn%27t+throw+punches+Lopez&aqs=chrome..69i57.25443j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 . The next five rounds were definitely not impressive for Teo. Why was he gassed fighting a guy who didn't throw punches? The fight was going to get attention because they way overhype anything Loma does. They are trying to actually compare Teo's performance to Tank's. Its pathetic.
Its simple. Tell us the impressive rounds. I will post the impressive round. Loma wasn't throwing punches the first six rounds. You can lie and say he did but the video will prove you wrong.
Ryan Garcia is fighting a recent Loma victim soon. Want to bet Ryan looks more impressive than Loma just as Tank looked way more impressive against Pedraza. Ryan is the B Level guy of Haney, Tank, Garcia, Lopez group.
But name the Teo rounds? I actually have only two rounds I liked. But still not impressive.
Rooster
11-04-2020, 07:29 PM
Teo looked bad against an overated guy who wasn't throwing punches. Teo was given the first 6 rounds and then inexplicably loses the next five to a guy he doesn't fear??? To a guy that fought like 90% of his fights against amateur's. A guy who has gotten knocked down by or lost to nearly half of his professional opponents??? He lost to a journey man in his second fight. Loma loses once every 8 fights and only has 16 professional fights??? Only one real impressive win in his career and has two big time losses. Amazingly is still ranked top 6 P4P. Its a joke. Teo had 11 below average rounds in a 12 round fight and then immediately wanted to run out of the best fighting class in boxing. Why? is he scared of several fighters?
LMAO Casual gonna casuals.
Please stop posting about something like a record. Fight fans understand resume but casuals only look at record like a boxscore.
Teo took a great risk and beat a great fighter. Loma was fighting some of the best fighters all the way to 135. Teo won and that’s more impressive than whatever Tank done in his career of cherrypicking. I would bet Haney will beat him and Shakur too. Tank has fought no one. His last opponent was game and have an impressive resume but he just moved up so in essence, he fought a workhorse who has to jump 2 weight classes not even he’s not even a big puncher to begin with.
LMAO. Casuals. SMH
Pointguard
11-05-2020, 02:12 AM
LMAO Casual gonna casuals.
Please stop posting about something like a record. Fight fans understand resume but casuals only look at record like a boxscore.
Teo took a great risk and beat a great fighter. Loma was fighting some of the best fighters all the way to 135. Teo won and that’s more impressive than whatever Tank done in his career of cherrypicking. I would bet Haney will beat him and Shakur too. Tank has fought no one. His last opponent was game and have an impressive resume but he just moved up so in essence, he fought a workhorse who has to jump 2 weight classes not even he’s not even a big puncher to begin with.
LMAO. Casuals. SMH:lol. "Please stop posting about something like a record."
You said resume and then failed to mention the content in the resume. 400 fights with only one impressive win. 395 fights against young amateur's and in ignorance you say don't mention his record? You sound real seasoned. Records don't mean anything right? Name me another fighter in the history of the sport considered the best of his generation with a record of 9 and 1 with a lost to a journeyman. Stayed top six, P4P, after being controlled and losing to a novice 23 year old that he cherry picked and Loma has a record of 16 and 2. Who would ignore that record? If you think a career record like that is a boxscore you can't be too bright. Or your thinking is a bit too "casual."
Loma's previous four fights were at lightweight so no excuse can be made there. Tank beat Pedraza in much more impressive fashion than Loma did - Tank knocked him out cold. Loma got knocked down by Linares, Pedraza, Gary Russell, and Campbell. Lost to a 23 year old and Salido. That's bad to be on the resume of 16 fights with only 1 impressive win. I think he can be great at 130 lbs. He obviously has problems with 135lbers.
LMAO Casuals. When you want to upgrade let me know.
Rooster
11-05-2020, 02:31 AM
:lol. "Please stop posting about something like a record."
You said resume and then failed to mention the content in the resume. 400 fights with only one impressive win. 395 fights against young amateur's and in ignorance you say don't mention his record? You sound real seasoned. Records don't mean anything right? Name me another fighter in the history of the sport considered the best of his generation with a record of 9 and 1 with a lost to a journeyman. Stayed top six, P4P, after being controlled and losing to a novice 23 year old that he cherry picked and Loma has a record of 16 and 2. Who would ignore that record? If you think a career record like that is a boxscore you can't be too bright. Or your thinking is a bit too "casual."
Loma's previous four fights were at lightweight so no excuse can be made there. Tank beat Pedraza in much more impressive fashion than Loma did - Tank knocked him out cold. Loma got knocked down by Linares, Pedraza, Gary Russell, and Campbell. Lost to a 23 year old and Salido. That's bad to be on the resume of 16 fights with only 1 impressive win. I think he can be great at 130 lbs. He obviously has problems with 135lbers.
LMAO Casuals. When you want to upgrade let me know.
LMAO. Loma only got knock down on in his career.:no: He got clipped by Linares who was considered the best 135 pounder at the time Loma fought him. Only casuals think he was some slouch.
And only Casuals think Tank have some kinda impressive resume . Beating Linares is better than anyone on Tank resume, and using triangle theory like the Pedraza is one of perfect example of casual fan sighting. You obviously know shit anything about boxing.
A puncher is expected to knockout sacrificial lambs. Loma is not a puncher . Tank is. Please stop trying to make a comparison if you have no idea about certain styles. It’s like saying Foreman knocking out Frazier while Ali can’t .:facepalm
Tank has been fighting and has fought no one. He has to cherrypicked a smaller fighter to entertain casuals . It’s equivalent of Loma making Rigo move up except Rigo was actually a masterful boxer than Santa Cruz can ever be. Loma has fought The Who’s who. Russell was considered the best in his weight class, Walters was also by the time Loma fought them. And Linares was also considered the best lightweight around Loma bodysnatched him.
There’s no one with 16 pro fights who has more impressive resume than Loma. Please look at the history of boxing and name me one of who has more impressive resume than him on their first 16 fights? :confusedshrug: Bar none until Teo came and beat him.
Casual gonna casuals:oldlol:
Pointguard
11-05-2020, 11:51 AM
LMAO. Loma only got knock down on in his career.:no: He got clipped by Linares who was considered the best 135 pounder at the time Loma fought him. Only casuals think he was some slouch.
In that fight he was a slouch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgAXBVxM5-s Heads snap and he goes down to one knee. They erased this like they erased his loss. But name me another fighter where losses get erased? And knock downs.
And only Casuals think Tank have some kinda impressive resume . Beating Linares is better than anyone on Tank resume, and using triangle theory like the Pedraza is one of perfect example of casual fan sighting. You obviously know shit anything about boxing.
Common fighters are a good cross measure: You can tell Tank has way more power than Loma through Pedraza. Its not questionable - even to a novice like you. Its obvious that Tank has more dynamite in his punch than any other lightweight. His knockout ratio is like a young Mike Tyson.
A puncher is expected to knockout sacrificial lambs. Loma is not a puncher . Tank is. Please stop trying to make a comparison if you have no idea about certain styles. It’s like saying Foreman knocking out Frazier while Ali can’t .:facepalm Ali never got outboxed by a 23 year opponent like Loma did. Had Teo not tired, Loma would have been totally dominated boxing wise by a puncher!!! How is that for style?
Pedraza was undefeated when he fought Tank. He was far from a sacrificial lamb. Why was Loma fighting Tank's sacrificial lambs a year later?
Tank has been fighting and has fought no one. He has to cherrypicked a smaller fighter to entertain casuals. It’s equivalent of Loma making Rigo move up except Rigo was actually a masterful boxer than Santa Cruz can ever be.
Rigo never fought outside of Bantam weight and then at age 38 has to move up two weight divisions to fight Loma who was at a third weight division away from Bantam weight on fight night. Like Loma fighting Earl Spence.
Loma has fought The Who’s who. Russell was considered the best in his weight class, Walters was also by the time Loma fought them. And Linares was also considered the best lightweight around Loma bodysnatched him.
Russell was the only impressive win on his record.
There’s no one with 16 pro fights who has more impressive resume than Loma. Please look at the history of boxing and name me one of who has more impressive resume than him on their first 16 fights? :confusedshrug: Bar none until Teo came and beat him.
Casual gonna casuals:oldlol:
Hahahaha, he was in his prime and at age 25 for his first fight and was cherry picking by his second fight when he lost an undeserved title fight to Solido, an ok fighter that he was scared to have a rematch with. The current crop of lightweights, Devin Haney, Teo, Ryan Garcia, Shakur and Tank by the age 25 will all have way more impressive names on their resumes before their primes. I have Loma losing to the majority of them while he is on his tail end of his prime. I don''t know who he will even fight in that group.
On the real, if you think you are being clever - you should know a little better.
Rooster
11-05-2020, 12:21 PM
In that fight he was a slouch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgAXBVxM5-s Heads snap and he goes down to one knee. They erased this like they erased his loss. But name me another fighter where losses get erased? And knock downs.
Common fighters are a good cross measure: You can tell Tank has way more power than Loma through Pedraza. Its not questionable - even to a novice like you. Its obvious that Tank has more dynamite in his punch than any other lightweight. His knockout ratio is like a young Mike Tyson.
Ali never got outboxed by a 23 year opponent like Loma did. Had Teo not tired, Loma would have been totally dominated boxing wise by a puncher!!! How is that for style?
Pedraza was undefeated when he fought Tank. He was far from a sacrificial lamb. Why was Loma fighting Tank's sacrificial lambs a year later?
Rigo never fought outside of Bantam weight and then at age 38 has to move up two weight divisions to fight Loma who was at a third weight division away from Bantam weight on fight night. Like Loma fighting Earl Spence.
Russell was the only impressive win on his record.
Hahahaha, he was in his prime and at age 25 for his first fight and was cherry picking by his second fight when he lost an undeserved title fight to Solido, an ok fighter that he was scared to have a rematch with. The current crop of lightweights, Devin Haney, Teo, Ryan Garcia, Shakur and Tank by the age 25 will all have way more impressive names on their resumes before their primes. I have Loma losing to the majority of them while he is on his tail end of his prime. I don''t know who he will even fight in that group.
On the real, if you think you are being clever - you should know a little better.
:roll:
LMAO so your logic is Garcia is more devastating puncher than Tank because he knock out a guy in one round while it took Tank to knock him out in 8 rounds. Common opponents like triangle theory is for Casuals.:oldlol: Styles makes fights in boxing.
and Age has nothing to with prime in boxing. El Radar was washed up by the time he was 24 and BHop still bearing alphabet title holders at 40. JMM was way better in his 30s. Jack Britton, Jersey Joe Walcott , Archie Moore, Maravilla
Winky , Liston etc. Prime in boxing is when physical hit the mental aspect and skills were already polished enough. This is not NBA Casual mofo.
Records like undefeated in boxing is CASUALS talk. Fight fans understand level of competition.
And Lol about Russell was the only good fighter. Casuals talk again. At one point Walters and Linares were the man in their weight class by the time Loma fought them. Tank has been at 130 for years and still has not fought Berchert, the numero uno at 130. ThatÂ’s a true definition of cherrypicking. Teo has been daring Loma and actually fought him. ThatÂ’s a true definition of great accomplishment comes from great risk.:bowdown:
Casuals gonna be casual:oldlol:
:roll:
Again name me a fighter again who has better resume than Loma on their first 16 fights instead of using age like a CASUAL do.
Lebron23
11-05-2020, 02:18 PM
Fury would KO Usyk if they fight next year
Pointguard
11-05-2020, 04:00 PM
:roll:
LMAO so your logic is Garcia is more devastating puncher than Tank because he knock out a guy in one round while it took Tank to knock him out in 8 rounds. Common opponents like triangle theory is for Casuals.:oldlol: Styles makes fights in boxing.
I never said anything like that. I said Teo outboxed Loma and would have dominated Loma for ten or eleven rounds with his boxing skills if he didn't tire out. It was in Loma style that that he was dominating Loma. That was a boxing fight.
and Age has nothing to with prime in boxing. El Radar was washed up by the time he was 24 and BHop still bearing alphabet title holders at 40. JMM was way better in his 30s. Jack Britton, Jersey Joe Walcott , Archie Moore, Maravilla
Winky , Liston etc. Prime in boxing is when physical hit the mental aspect and skills were already polished enough. This is not NBA Casual mofo.
By nature human biology peaks in physical endeavors. Its not as arbitrary as taking exceptions from 60 years ago and saying look human biology doesn't follow rules. We aren't arbitrarily designed - there might be exceptions but only a brain dead idiot thinks there aren't optimal ages of performance in any physical sport. You are trying too hard. Use your common sense!
El Radar wasn't washed up at 24 he would have been losing to Hearns and Sugar Ray at any age.
Records like undefeated in boxing is CASUALS talk. Fight fans understand level of competition.
Getting outboxed by a novice puncher who is only 23 years old is bad for your record when you only have 14 wins. Couple that with a loss to a journey man with 14 loses. That matters.
And Lol about Russell was the only good fighter. Casuals talk again. At one point Walters and Linares were the man in their weight class by the time Loma fought them. Doesn't mean they were good.
Tank has been at 130 for years and still has not fought Berchert, the numero uno at 130. ThatÂ’s a true definition of cherrypicking. Teo has been daring Loma and actually fought him. ThatÂ’s a true definition of great accomplishment comes from great risk.:bowdown:
Loma requested the franchise belt to avoid the WBC mandatory. Talk about cherry picking??? Teo was the safer fight as Haney is bigger, way more skilled, has better foot movement, better jab, better reach, better combos, better ring generalship, better defense, makes better adjustments than TEO.
Casuals gonna be casual:oldlol:
:roll:
You are going to be yourself. You don't have an option - I understand.
Again name me a fighter again who has better resume than Loma on their first 16 fights instead of using age like a CASUAL do.
He got a severe age handicap. At age 25 and the next 16 fights there are no greats with a worse resume. Its just a freak way his career and cherry picking worked with and against him. Think about that.
Rooster
11-05-2020, 04:25 PM
I never said anything like that. I said Teo outboxed Loma and would have dominated Loma for ten or eleven rounds with his boxing skills if he didn't tire out. It was in Loma style that that he was dominating Loma. That was a boxing fight.
By nature human biology peaks in physical endeavors. Its not as arbitrary as taking exceptions from 60 years ago and saying look human biology doesn't follow rules. We aren't arbitrarily designed - there might be exceptions but only a brain dead idiot thinks there aren't optimal ages of performance in any physical sport. You are trying too hard. Use your common sense!
El Radar wasn't washed up at 24 he would have been losing to Hearns and Sugar Ray at any age.
Getting outboxed by a novice puncher who is only 23 years old is bad for your record when you only have 14 wins. Couple that with a loss to a journey man with 14 loses. That matters.
Doesn't mean they were good.
Loma requested the franchise belt to avoid the WBC mandatory. Talk about cherry picking??? Teo was the safer fight as Haney is bigger, way more skilled, has better foot movement, better jab, better reach, better combos, better ring generalship, better defense, makes better adjustments than TEO.
You are going to be yourself. You don't have an option - I understand.
He got a severe age handicap. At age 25 and the next 16 fights there are no greats with a worse resume. Its just a freak way his career and cherry picking worked with and against him. Think about that.
LMAO. How the fact Loma is cherrypicking when he fought the 3 best fighters on his weight class and Tank has not fought anyone. Not only he fought The Who’s who but he also fought grizzly veteran like Salido in his 2nd fight and fought Teo. Tank never done such as a thing in his 24 fights. :facepalm:lol
LMAO. Casuals can’t different boxing age. Casuals like to use records without having the ability to break down resume.
LMAO. Does it mean they were good. LOL. Casuals can’t talk in retrospect. Linares was the best 135 fighter for 2 years before Loma fought him. And Walters was the most feared puncher at that weight class when Loma tax his ass. Berchert was the best 130 fight for as long as Tank and he never dared to fight. He fighting slew of gatekeepers and Santa Cruz who’s pretty good but does not belong in 130. Comparing Tank resume to Loma resume is clueless Casual will do. In fact Tank never fought any top 5 fighter in his weight class nor any weight class. That’s what you call a true cherrypicker.
Haney will be the best 135 and I believed in him and his team. But Loma wanted to be the first undisputed 135 champ since IBF and WBO
popped in the scene. Haney hold a regular meaningless belt. Teo was not safer, he has a major belt and has a better resume than Haney. Only casuals think different.
El Radar was a wash up at 24. His last great fight was taking the fight to Duran and beat him. By 24 , he started losing to journeyman etc. Again fight fans know this and you are a casual.
All your replies is how Casuals talk.
Rooster
11-05-2020, 04:28 PM
Fury would KO Usyk if they fight next year
Fury has to fight Joshua. That’s what most fight fans want to see. Usyk has to proved him first. His heavyweight debut leave a lot to be desired of.
Pointguard
11-06-2020, 02:33 AM
LMAO. How the fact Loma is cherrypicking when he fought the 3 best fighters on his weight class and Tank has not fought anyone. Not only he fought The Who’s who but he also fought grizzly veteran like Salido in his 2nd fight and fought Teo. Tank never done such as a thing in his 24 fights. :facepalm:lol
Cherry Picking is going to the WBC and asking for a Franchise Belt to avoid Devin Haney a 21 year old. Unheard of from a P4P guy who then loses to the 23 year old.
He cherry picked Salido and it was more than he could chew. He didn't deserve a title fight but to his credit he has to be the only fighter to get a title fight in his second fight.
LMAO. Casuals can’t different boxing age. Casuals like to use records without having the ability to break down resume. Who is on Linares resume? Who is on Walters resume? Neither were guys that would make you great cause you have them on your record.
Comparing Tank resume to Loma resume is clueless Casual will do. In fact Tank never fought any top 5 fighter in his weight class nor any weight class. That’s what you call a true cherrypicker.
I never said Tank had a better resume. Floyd and them have cherry picked for Tank - this is true. But I said Tank has a better punch than Teo. Teo tagged Loma and Loma said "OK, lets not throw a punch for the next 5 rounds." Tank would make Loma retire. If Loma was fighting comp he doesn't get so scared to throw a punch like that at his age. His fear re-emerged in the 12th round. He ends up getting severally outboxed again.
Haney will be the best 135 and I believed in him and his team. But Loma wanted to be the first undisputed 135 champ since IBF and WBO
popped in the scene. Haney hold a regular meaningless belt. Teo was not safer, he has a major belt and has a better resume than Haney. Only casuals think different. Mr Casual, are you saying the WBC isn't the most prestigious Belt? Are you not doing your homework Mr Casual? So why did Loma run to the WBC to get a franchise belt so he doesn't have to fight his mandatory Devin Haney?
El Radar was a wash up at 24. His last great fight was taking the fight to Duran and beat him. By 24 , he started losing to journeyman etc. Again fight fans know this and you are a casual.
He lost to Hearns at 23 and the bigger Hamsho at age 24. He was never on par with those guys at any point in his life. He dabbed in drugs. Not all that crazy at that time.
All your replies is how Casuals talk.
Hahahaha, I know its a security blanket for you.
On the real you need to improve your vocabulary and apply some analysis.
Rooster
11-06-2020, 11:02 AM
Cherry Picking is going to the WBC and asking for a Franchise Belt to avoid Devin Haney a 21 year old. Unheard of from a P4P guy who then loses to the 23 year old.
He cherry picked Salido and it was more than he could chew. He didn't deserve a title fight but to his credit he has to be the only fighter to get a title fight in his second fight.
Who is on Linares resume? Who is on Walters resume? Neither were guys that would make you great cause you have them on your record.
I never said Tank had a better resume. Floyd and them have cherry picked for Tank - this is true. But I said Tank has a better punch than Teo. Teo tagged Loma and Loma said "OK, lets not throw a punch for the next 5 rounds." Tank would make Loma retire. If Loma was fighting comp he doesn't get so scared to throw a punch like that at his age. His fear re-emerged in the 12th round. He ends up getting severally outboxed again.
Mr Casual, are you saying the WBC isn't the most prestigious Belt? Are you not doing your homework Mr Casual? So why did Loma run to the WBC to get a franchise belt so he doesn't have to fight his mandatory Devin Haney?
He lost to Hearns at 23 and the bigger Hamsho at age 24. He was never on par with those guys at any point in his life. He dabbed in drugs. Not all that crazy at that time.
Hahahaha, I know its a security blanket for you.
On the real you need to improve your vocabulary and apply some analysis.
LMAO. El Radar barely lost to Hearns and Hamsho was merely a gatekeeper. El Radar was a great fighter, only casuals think Hamsho was better than him. El Radar was literally wash up around that age and keep piling Ls to journeyman after that. Only casuals canÂ’t differentiate prime years of certain fighter.
Ring magazine is the most prestigious belt for fight fans. All other belts are just alphabet that confused casuals. ItÂ’s nothing but fees for technicality of being called a champ. WBC added franchise belt to collect more fees and put a regular title (Haney won an interim version) like how WBA does it it. The end game, to collect more money. Again casuals like you canÂ’t grasp that.
Lol about cherrypicking Salido. LMAO How the f you cherrypicked an ultimate gatekeeper in your 2nd pro. Since I donÂ’t feel like itÂ’s mutually beneficial to have a boxing conversation with a casual. How about name me one ATG who fought someone as good as Salido in their 2nd pro fight? :oldlol: Casuals
Linares has won a alphabet belt back in 2007 and has beaten many good fighters that Casuals like you canÂ’t possibly know and has won both the WBC (casuals call it prestigious LOL) and WBA and was the Ring number 1 fighter for 2 years ( Fight fans respect that more) before Loma beat him.
LMAO, Walters just KO a great fighter Donaire who was never been KOd. You donÂ’t have to a great fighter to be a man in your weight class at one point. You keep reaching Casual.
Keep going circles without any getting substantial boxing knowledge from your casual talk. Better aks somebody boyo.
:roll:Again name me a boxer who has better resume than Loma in their first 16 fighters?
and name me
Name me any ATG who fought someone as good as Salido in their 2nd fight?
And better yet
Name me any ATG that has beaten someone as good as Russell in their 3rd fight?
IÂ’ll patiently wait for a casual for finally telling me something that I dunno:banana:
:rockon:
Pointguard
11-06-2020, 02:06 PM
LMAO. El Radar barely lost to Hearns and Hamsho was merely a gatekeeper. El Radar was a great fighter, only casuals think Hamsho was better than him. El Radar was literally wash up around that age and keep piling Ls to journeyman after that. Only casuals canÂ’t differentiate prime years of certain fighter.
Hamsho was just so much bigger. Benitez was the better boxer but he wasn't going to beat him. Hearn's aim was off and he stilll beat Radar clearly:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7mdm0sF6Us
Ring magazine is the most prestigious belt for fight fans. All other belts are just alphabet that confused casuals. ItÂ’s nothing but fees for technicality of being called a champ. WBC added franchise belt to collect more fees and put a regular title (Haney won an interim version) like how WBA does it it. The end game, to collect more money. Again casuals like you canÂ’t grasp that. F the end game. WBC has better champs consistently and historically than the other Belts. That's my point and you know it.
Lol about cherrypicking Salido. LMAO How the f you cherrypicked an ultimate gatekeeper in your 2nd pro. Since I donÂ’t feel like itÂ’s mutually beneficial to have a boxing conversation with a casual. How about name me one ATG who fought someone as good as Salido in their 2nd pro fight? :oldlol: Casuals
Name me another champion with 12 loses on their record. Loma. was extremely privileged and given a title fight in his second fight - Note Devin Haney can't get ANY BODY to fight him including Loma who was a mandatory. Loma is also the only person in boxing history that had more title fights than regular fights after three fights.
Linares has won a alphabet belt back in 2007 and has beaten many good fighters that Casuals like you canÂ’t possibly know and has won both the WBC (casuals call it prestigious LOL) and WBA and was the Ring number 1 fighter for 2 years ( Fight fans respect that more) before Loma beat him.
You are trying to confuse the landscape... again. Thats not a resume for Linares. You are not fooling me or anybody else here.
LMAO, Walters just KO a great fighter Donaire who was never been KOd. You donÂ’t have to a great fighter to be a man in your weight class at one point. You keep reaching Casual.
Donaire has great names on resume... but he lost all of them. Good try tho.
:roll:Again name me a boxer who has better resume than Loma in their first 16 fighters?
and name me
Name me any ATG who fought someone as good as Salido in their 2nd fight?
Because of your unique inability to understand human biology its just a freak situation of his advanced age that allowed this to happen. Not greatness, just age.
Name me any ATG that has beaten someone as good as Russell in their 3rd fight?
I give him credit there. That's the apex of his career tho. Russell is the idea fight for Loma. A smaller guy, had no championship experience and had small arms like himself.
The new group is just a lot better than Loma's era, and more than likely him. He's not going to be able to catch Shakur - a sure HOFer and the most skilled of the bunch. He feared Teo's punching power, so I doubt he'll want any parts of Tank. Haney is a big skilled, long, strong superb boxer future HOFer and has everything Loma has trouble with. Ryan Garcia is the one who might be on Loma's radar. I'm sure Tank's size is enticing Loma, but his defense would have to be perfect.
Rooster
11-06-2020, 04:22 PM
Hamsho was just so much bigger. Benitez was the better boxer but he wasn't going to beat him. Hearn's aim was off and he stilll beat Radar clearly:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7mdm0sF6Us
F the end game. WBC has better champs consistently and historically than the other Belts. That's my point and you know it.
Name me another champion with 12 loses on their record. Loma. was extremely privileged and given a title fight in his second fight - Note Devin Haney can't get ANY BODY to fight him including Loma who was a mandatory. Loma is also the only person in boxing history that had more title fights than regular fights after three fights.
You are trying to confuse the landscape... again. Thats not a resume for Linares. You are not fooling me or anybody else here.
Donaire has great names on resume... but he lost all of them. Good try tho.
Because of your unique inability to understand human biology its just a freak situation of his advanced age that allowed this to happen. Not greatness, just age.
I give him credit there. That's the apex of his career tho. Russell is the idea fight for Loma. A smaller guy, had no championship experience and had small arms like himself.
The new group is just a lot better than Loma's era, and more than likely him. He's not going to be able to catch Shakur - a sure HOFer and the most skilled of the bunch. He feared Teo's punching power, so I doubt he'll want any parts of Tank. Haney is a big skilled, long, strong superb boxer future HOFer and has everything Loma has trouble with. Ryan Garcia is the one who might be on Loma's radar. I'm sure Tank's size is enticing Loma, but his defense would have to be perfect.
Shakur already wants to fight Valdez in place of Berchert. That’s what a true definition of taking a great risk. Something Tank has not done in his years at 130. Fight a top level competition in your weight class. Garcia is also fighting
Campbell. I agree about Haney because I like him, he’s the most complete fighter among all of them and build his career fighting tough mofos from Mexico. But Tank, he’s a true definition of cherrypicking .
LMAO. Donaire has beaten every top fighter in his weight class .
Casuals like you can’t probably break down his resume like someone can’t break down the game and look at only the boxscore. Donaire only lose to Rigo in his prime and only got KO by Walters.
LMAO about 12 losses. :banghead: :facepalm:oldlol:That’s like casuals talk. Salido has beaten champs and exposed prospects. And let me it this was even the GOAT has 19 losses. Henry Armstrong started his career with 1-3. Even a top 10 ATG has many loses and never became world champion . Casuals like you like would never know. Fight fans understand how a great fighter was made, casuals like you only arrived when he get there.
Pointguard
11-07-2020, 01:23 AM
Shakur already wants to fight Valdez in place of Berchert. That’s what a true definition of taking a great risk. Something Tank has not done in his years at 130. Fight a top level competition in your weight class. Garcia is also fighting
Campbell. I agree about Haney because I like him, he’s the most complete fighter among all of them and build his career fighting tough mofos from Mexico. But Tank, he’s a true definition of cherrypicking
Shakur's defense is crazy. He really has that on lock.
LMAO. Donaire has beaten every top fighter in his weight class .
Casuals like you can’t probably break down his resume like someone can’t break down the game and look at only the boxscore. Donaire only lose to Rigo in his prime and only got KO by Walters.
??? He lost to Frampton, Jesse Magdeleno and recently lost to Inoue. Has he beaten any A list fighters? He lost his top five fights. Look it up.
LMAO about 12 losses. :banghead: :facepalm:oldlol:That’s like casuals talk. Salido has beaten champs and exposed prospects. And let me it this was even the GOAT has 19 losses. Henry Armstrong started his career with 1-3. Even a top 10 ATG has many loses and never became world champion . Casuals like you like would never know. Fight fans understand how a great fighter was made, casuals like you only arrived when he get there.
19 losses in the 1940's isn't the same as now. You are talking about a guy who was 128 and 1 before he started losing (he avenged that 1 loss to Jake Lamotta like four times). At age 35, according to you he's not suppose to age, it was plain to see he lost his touch. He lost 18 fights after being 35 years old starving and sometimes fighting like 8 or 9 times a year. If you knew this information you should be more responsible in how you say it. Its the biggest bone head move a guy who thinks he's a boxing historian can make.
Rooster
11-07-2020, 02:15 AM
Shakur's defense is crazy. He really has that on lock.
??? He lost to Frampton, Jesse Magdeleno and recently lost to Inoue. Has he beaten any A list fighters? He lost his top five fights. Look it up.
19 losses in the 1940's isn't the same as now. You are talking about a guy who was 128 and 1 before he started losing (he avenged that 1 loss to Jake Lamotta like four times). At age 35, according to you he's not suppose to age, it was plain to see he lost his touch. He lost 18 fights after being 35 years old starving and sometimes fighting like 8 or 9 times a year. If you knew this information you should be more responsible in how you say it. Its the biggest bone head move a guy who thinks he's a boxing historian can make.
LMAO Any fight fans would know what a great fighter done in his prime . ThereÂ’s bunch of ATG who has pile of losses. Fight fans understand the level of competition and all the nuances that comes with it. Now you learned that losses does not mean anything. You can go back to casual talk where undefeated record means more for hyping a certain fighter.
Donaire has a slew of good fighter in his resume all the way winning 4 alphabet titles. LMAO, Frampton and Magdaleno is not even on top 5 on his resume. :facepalm:roll: LMAO Better aks somebody boho.
Maybe Inoue if withstand the test of time. Only casuals look up record and clueless like you . One of his under appreciated win was not even highly regarded until now as he has ruled over a decade. Since you dunno, thereÂ’s no point in discussing with you.
Casuals will be casuals. :oldlol:
Pointguard
11-07-2020, 04:07 PM
LMAO Any fight fans would know what a great fighter done in his prime . ThereÂ’s bunch of ATG who has pile of losses. Fight fans understand the level of competition and all the nuances that comes with it. Now you learned that losses does not mean anything. You can go back to casual talk where undefeated record means more for hyping a certain fighter.
You can have losses, no biggie. But embarrassing losses in only 16 fights while being totted as the best in a generation that had Bud Crawford, Andre Ward, Canelo and Spence is pure crap. And still being championed over the Charlo Bros. Andrade and Manny. All are guys you never saw a never saw a young fighter dominate them boxing wise or a journey man beat them convincingly. We never saw them too scared to throw a punch. What's wild is that Teo wasn't the best person to dismantle the matrix.
Donaire has a slew of good fighter in his resume all the way winning 4 alphabet titles. LMAO, Frampton and Magdaleno is not even on top 5 on his resume. :facepalm:roll: LMAO Better aks somebody boho.
I name the guys when I talk about them. Casuals, like yourself, can't do it. Donaire lost most of his biggest fights. He has an impressive resume but it needs more wins in big fights..
Maybe Inoue if withstand the test of time. Only casuals look up record and clueless like you . One of his under appreciated win was not even highly regarded until now as he has ruled over a decade. Since you dunno, thereÂ’s no point in discussing with you.
Casuals will be casuals. :oldlol:
When your analytical skills get better, your last line will have some variance in it. A word to the wise... .
Rooster
11-07-2020, 06:23 PM
You can have losses, no biggie. But embarrassing losses in only 16 fights while being totted as the best in a generation that had Bud Crawford, Andre Ward, Canelo and Spence is pure crap. And still being championed over the Charlo Bros. Andrade and Manny. All are guys you never saw a never saw a young fighter dominate them boxing wise or a journey man beat them convincingly. We never saw them too scared to throw a punch. What's wild is that Teo wasn't the best person to dismantle the matrix.
I name the guys when I talk about them. Casuals, like yourself, can't do it. Donaire lost most of his biggest fights. He has an impressive resume but it needs more wins in big fights..
When your analytical skills get better, your last line will have some variance in it. A word to the wise... .
:roll:
LMAO, Casual gonna be casuals.:oldlol:
YouÂ’re out of your depth brah.:no:
Still canÂ’t name me one fighter that has better resume Loma in 16 fights. Still making excuses.
So IÂ’m gonna riddle your casual knowledge instead.
Great fighter with less fights and more losses than Salido was revered by fights fans and fight fans. Name me that fighter casual.
LMAO any fight fans understand that 126 was stretch for Donaire and those losses are hogwash. He is fighting 5 divisions above the first weight classes he won. Only ATG has that accolade. You keep reaching outside of your casual zone.
Donaire won his biggest fights. Casuals like you are usually clueless when it comes to it so
IÂ’ll riddle your casual knowledge.:banana:
1. This fighter was a 3 division belt holder and was consider the man at his weight class and unified champ. After Donaire move up and put him on seizure mode , it catapulted Donaire to P4p status.
2. This fighter was like buzzsaw knocking out everyone until Donaire beat him from pillar to post. And just like Donaire fought in 5 different weight classes to win 2 major belts along with it and a fixture in everyone of them and a borderline HOF.
3. This flamboyant fighter is 4 division champ and was major belt holder until Donaire beat him and unified the title. He will be inducted to HOF.
4. This belt holder had a long reign and considered the man in that weight class and Donaire moved up and beat him further cemented his p4p status.
5. This fighter had 16 title defense and another 11 title defense in 2 weight classes and in between that is his loss to Donaire basically put his bike and run around.
6. This one is not even regarded until this dude rule his weight class over a decade and his 2 victims is now 2 of best fighter on 2 weight classes above.
And these are all easy win for Donaire.
Among his resume his another interim belt on another weight classes (like Haney won) that casuals call them champ. So in your logic, he is 5 division champ. Now name fighter that have that accomplishment.
Only casual think Donaire biggest fights was at 126
casual gonna be casual:oldlol:
Pointguard
11-08-2020, 01:37 PM
Still canÂ’t name me one fighter that has better resume Loma in 16 fights. Still making excuses.
His 16 career fights definitely are mediocre for a guy in his prime. It's not at a great level. He would have lost 12 rounds to a very young fighter that wasn't a boxer. That never happens. The current P4P group don't have something that humiliating on their record. He was scared to throw punches.
So IÂ’m gonna riddle your casual knowledge instead.
Great fighter with less fights and more losses than Salido was revered by fights fans and fight fans. Name me that fighter casual.
Who cares?!? Salido sucks - you always miss the bigger point. You aren't a boxing fan. You are a nut.
LMAO any fight fans understand that 126 was stretch for Donaire and those losses are hogwash. He is fighting 5 divisions above the first weight classes he won. Only ATG has that accolade. You keep reaching outside of your casual zone. Its been 10 years now he's been fighting at 122, he only has a couple of loses at 126 - Frampton and Nicolas Walters (so now you are saying one of the few big names on Walter's resume wasn't worth mentioning). You just keep stumbling over yourself. Rigo was going to beat Donaire no matter what the weight was going to be.
Donaire won his biggest fights. Casuals like you are usually clueless when it comes to it so
IÂ’ll riddle your casual knowledge.:banana:
1. This fighter was a 3 division belt holder and was consider the man at his weight class and unified champ. After Donaire move up and put him on seizure mode , it catapulted Donaire to P4p status.
2. This fighter was like buzzsaw knocking out everyone until Donaire beat him from pillar to post. And just like Donaire fought in 5 different weight classes to win 2 major belts along with it and a fixture in everyone of them and a borderline HOF.
3. This flamboyant fighter is 4 division champ and was major belt holder until Donaire beat him and unified the title. He will be inducted to HOF.
4. This belt holder had a long reign and considered the man in that weight class and Donaire moved up and beat him further cemented his p4p status.
5. This fighter had 16 title defense and another 11 title defense in 2 weight classes and in between that is his loss to Donaire basically put his bike and run around.
6. This one is not even regarded until this dude rule his weight class over a decade and his 2 victims is now 2 of best fighter on 2 weight classes above.
And these are all easy win for Donaire.
Are you talking about Arce??? Wasn't he about to retire?
Rooster
11-08-2020, 02:31 PM
His 16 career fights definitely are mediocre for a guy in his prime. It's not at a great level. He would have lost 12 rounds to a very young fighter that wasn't a boxer. That never happens. The current P4P group don't have something that humiliating on their record. He was scared to throw punches.
Who cares?!? Salido sucks - you always miss the bigger point. You aren't a boxing fan. You are a nut.
Its been 10 years now he's been fighting at 122, he only has a couple of loses at 126 - Frampton and Nicolas Walters (so now you are saying one of the few big names on Walter's resume wasn't worth mentioning). You just keep stumbling over yourself. Rigo was going to beat Donaire no matter what the weight was going to be.
Are you talking about Arce??? Wasn't he about to retire?
LMAO casuals will always be casual.
you canÂ’t talk boxing in retrospect boyo.
i gave a great fighter who has fewer fights and more losses than Salido. Just going by names like Casual do, Salido has more impressive wins except he canÂ’t crack a skull like this mofo did.
name me that fighter boyo.
and you only can name one on Donaire resume LMAO.
Better ask somebody boyo.
And nikka please before start criticizing someone resume, you betta have sufficient knowledge to start with. Otherwise itÂ’s just casual talk.
i dare you to dig deeper in over 100 years of history of boxing to name me one boxer that has more impressive resume than Loma 16 fights and all I hear is crickets and excuses.
whoopsie daisy, you still has not said anything that can differentiate you from casuals.
betta aks somebody boyo.
Pointguard
11-08-2020, 11:12 PM
LMAO casuals will always be casual.
You are like a parrot that thinks its learned a hip and sophisticated word. I thought it could get better but...
you canÂ’t talk boxing in retrospect boyo.
i gave a great fighter who has fewer fights and more losses than Salido. Just going by names like Casual do, Salido has more impressive wins except he canÂ’t crack a skull like this mofo did.
name me that fighter boyo.
and you only can name one on Donaire resume LMAO.
Better ask somebody boyo.
And nikka please before start criticizing someone resume, you betta have sufficient knowledge to start with. Otherwise itÂ’s just casual talk.
i dare you to dig deeper in over 100 years of history of boxing to name me one boxer that has more impressive resume than Loma 16 fights and all I hear is crickets and excuses.
whoopsie daisy, you still has not said anything that can differentiate you from casuals.
betta aks somebody boyo.
:lol:lol:lol wtf is this. You resort to being an imploding five year old in prison.
Donaire wasn't great enough to make Walters resume great, which would improve Loma's resume. Only a fool is going to believe that. That's a lost argument you are staying on it because you know how weak his resume is.
Fighters don't pick their first fights. You acting like you don't know that??? A great majority, upwards of 90 percent, of excellent fighters don't loose two fights in their first 16 fights. Much less lose two embarrassing fights. A great majority, upwards of 95 percent of HOFers, have a better resume than Loma, after turning 25 years of age. Loma just had a freak combination of being in his peak when he turned pro and allowed to cherry pick fights. Bud Crawford can't get a good fight for five years after he unified Belts. Loma was able get two championship fights after ONE fight. Pros were predicting Loma would lose to Teo because he didn't have comp. They aren't talking about a great.
Rooster
11-09-2020, 12:58 AM
Donaire wasn't great enough to make Walters resume great, which would improve Loma's resume. Only a fool is going to believe that. That's a lost argument you are staying on it because you know how weak his resume is.
Fighters don't pick their first fights. You acting like you don't know that??? A great majority, upwards of 90 percent, of excellent fighters don't loose two fights in their first 16 fights. Much less lose two embarrassing fights. A great majority, upwards of 95 percent of HOFers, have a better resume than Loma, after turning 25 years of age. Loma just had a freak combination of being in his peak when he turned pro and allowed to cherry pick fights. Bud Crawford can't get a good fight for five years after he unified Belts. Loma was able get two championship fights after ONE fight. Pros were predicting Loma would lose to Teo because he didn't have comp. They aren't talking about a great.
LMAO. :roll:
nikka please.
casuals gonna casual.
Donaire has one of the most impressive resume among active boxers and a bonafide HOF which means heÂ’s a great one. He went through 5 divisions and beaten The WhoÂ’s who moving up and fought the best competition. Why can you casuals talk in retrospect. Name me an active fighter that has better resume than Donaire? Canelo moves up and cherrypicked 2 weak belt holder . So talk like fight fans talk, who was the fighter he should fough while winning 5 divisions title (according to your logic). He already beaten at least 6 boxers that will eventually make the HOF.
fighters donÂ’t pick Salido in their 2nd fight or Russell and a boogeymen like Walters . Fighters donÂ’t also move up and fought the man at their before their 15th fights. Even ATG that started their pro around Loma age (prime LMAO) never took those kinda risk. The fact that he did means his willingness to fight the best competition available.
Losses meant nothing , only casuals like you trying to magnify because of your casual knowledge . Salido is a respected fighter. Name me a boxer who fought someone as good as him in their 2nd fight?
A top 10 ATG never became a world champion and has many losses. And HeÂ’s not the only ATG with that resume.
again casual name that fighter that has better resume than Loma in their first 16 th fight. :confusedshrug:
iamgine
11-09-2020, 02:01 AM
I think the consensus on Loma right now is just like the first Joshua - Ruiz fight. Yeah Ruiz won and everyone realized Ruiz was much better than expected. However, most still believes Joshua's the better fighter, although his reputation was reduced by a lot. Loma had an invincibility aura that is obliterated right now, but people believe he's still better than Teo. They need to fight a second time and Teo need to win if he is to really smash these doubts. Loma need a few more convincing wins though if he is to regain his reputation. Or thoroughly school Teo in a 2nd fight.
LoneyROY7
11-09-2020, 02:50 AM
I think the consensus on Loma right now is just like the first Joshua - Ruiz fight. Yeah Ruiz won and everyone realized Ruiz was much better than expected. However, most still believes Joshua's the better fighter, although his reputation was reduced by a lot. Loma had an invincibility aura that is obliterated right now, but people believe he's still better than Teo. They need to fight a second time and Teo need to win if he is to really smash these doubts. Loma need a few more convincing wins though if he is to regain his reputation. Or thoroughly school Teo in a 2nd fight.
Teo has potentially more exciting match-ups with the other younger stars of the division. He doesn't need to fight Loma again.
People want Teo vs. Tank. Teo vs Haney.
Rooster
11-09-2020, 11:48 AM
I think the consensus on Loma right now is just like the first Joshua - Ruiz fight. Yeah Ruiz won and everyone realized Ruiz was much better than expected. However, most still believes Joshua's the better fighter, although his reputation was reduced by a lot. Loma had an invincibility aura that is obliterated right now, but people believe he's still better than Teo. They need to fight a second time and Teo need to win if he is to really smash these doubts. Loma need a few more convincing wins though if he is to regain his reputation. Or thoroughly school Teo in a 2nd fight.
I would believe itÂ’s either Loma is overrated or Teo is a great fighter in the making . Both can be true or untrue at the same time but we shall see if it will withstand the test of time.
The fight was close enough to that warrant a rematch. Teo controlled the first half and Loma rallied but got clocked badly in that 12th and Teo sealed the W. In essence, Teo outfought him.
I think Loma will outbox him but judging from those vicious body shots he took from Teo and how fast was Teo with his jab, it will be close again with Arum sealing the fight for a trilogy .
Ruiz was underrated . Even on their 2nd fight, Joshua chose to fight from the distance measuring Ruiz with his jab and occasionally throwing the left hook to keep him from coming in. The only fighter that can probably beat Ruiz with same game plan is Fury.
For fight fans
Joshua vs Fury has to happen.
Rooster
11-09-2020, 12:16 PM
Teo has potentially more exciting match-ups with the other younger stars of the division. He doesn't need to fight Loma again.
People want Teo vs. Tank. Teo vs Haney.
He has to fight Loma again at some point or he will move up and fight Ramirez. None of those young stars are big enough for him yet and from different stable which makes it more challenging as the those promoters will protect their investments unless it’s too big of a fight not to make it happen.
Those young guys have to start taking risk. Haney is claiming no one wants to fight him so maybe he need to fight someone like Linares to test his chin but heÂ’s young so IÂ’ll give the benefit of the doubt. Tank has not taken any risk, his fights have been meticulously cherrypicked. Casuals continue to gravitate on his showcase fights. Garcia is already fighting Campbell and Shakur is already daring to be great.
Pointguard
11-09-2020, 09:15 PM
I think the consensus on Loma right now is just like the first Joshua - Ruiz fight. Yeah Ruiz won and everyone realized Ruiz was much better than expected. However, most still believes Joshua's the better fighter, although his reputation was reduced by a lot. Loma had an invincibility aura that is obliterated right now, but people believe he's still better than Teo. They need to fight a second time and Teo need to win if he is to really smash these doubts. Loma need a few more convincing wins though if he is to regain his reputation. Or thoroughly school Teo in a 2nd fight.
Haney feels like Loma avoided him. And that Loma will need him now. Mikey Garcia is saying Loma ducked him as well. Teo acts like he don't want to grant the fight. So people remember stuff. Which puts Loma in a situation where six contemporaries should make it to the HOF and he only fought one who beat him clearly while being only 23 years old. Loma did beat Russell but Russ wasn't a champion yet. Loma needs another fight but can he handle 135??? He's not going to beat Shakur at 130 either. He's got a situation.
Rooster
11-09-2020, 09:57 PM
Haney feels like Loma avoided him. And that Loma will need him now. Mikey Garcia is saying Loma ducked him as well. Teo acts like he don't want to grant the fight. So people remember stuff. Which puts Loma in a situation where six contemporaries should make it to the HOF and he only fought one who beat him clearly while being only 23 years old. Loma did beat Russell but Russ wasn't a champion yet. Loma needs another fight but can he handle 135??? He's not going to beat Shakur at 130 either. He's got a situation.
LMAO. Casuals talk.
HOF:facepalm:roll:
Not every fighter who perceive to be the man at in any class will make the HOF.
Not every prospect with an alphabet belt will get there either.
If Russell was not a champ then so was Loma.
Fight fans understand these nuances.
Casuals like you canÂ’t .
ItÂ’s like saying Bud has not fought any great fighter when he fought
the best competition available before moving up to 147.
just happened that the best competition did not withstand the test of time.
Fight fans understand that quality of your opponents and how and when you fought them.
Casuals like you are more of a BoxRec expert.
Betta aka somebody boyo:oldlol:
Pointguard
11-09-2020, 10:23 PM
LMAO. Casuals talk.
Wait, let me guess what posters this is??? I give it to you tho. Sounding redundant and stupid doesn't stop you. A true Trump era escapee'
Not every fighter who perceive to be the man at in any class will make the HOF.
Not every prospect with an alphabet belt will get there either.
If Russell was not a champ then so was Loma.
A champion will find a way to win and go a little further. Or otherwords, he didn't get championship Russell. Teo fought like the champion in the Loma fight.
Fight fans understand these nuances. Over these last three pages you have worked hard enough to prove you aren't a fan. Now a parrot! you roll hard on that one.
ItÂ’s like saying Bud has not fought any great fighter when he fought
the best competition available before moving up to 147. He unified the belts. There were no excuses, no ducking, no style that caused him problems. He deserved the next big fight.
Betta aka somebody boyo:oldlol:
I don't mean to get on your parrottism but can it be a little clearer?
iamgine
11-10-2020, 12:42 AM
Haney feels like Loma avoided him. And that Loma will need him now. Mikey Garcia is saying Loma ducked him as well. Teo acts like he don't want to grant the fight. So people remember stuff. Which puts Loma in a situation where six contemporaries should make it to the HOF and he only fought one who beat him clearly while being only 23 years old. Loma did beat Russell but Russ wasn't a champion yet. Loma needs another fight but can he handle 135??? He's not going to beat Shakur at 130 either. He's got a situation.
He's got a situation all right just like Joshua had a situation. But I think it's clear he's more than capable of beating any of these guys. It's just that maybe he's not as good as where people put him and can be beat by any of these guys as well. But he's a big name so just like Joshua, he should get plenty of chances to redeem himself.
Rooster
11-10-2020, 12:47 AM
Wait, let me guess what posters this is??? I give it to you tho. Sounding redundant and stupid doesn't stop you. A true Trump era escapee'
A champion will find a way to win and go a little further. Or otherwords, he didn't get championship Russell. Teo fought like the champion in the Loma fight.
Over these last three pages you have worked hard enough to prove you aren't a fan. Now a parrot! you roll hard on that one.
He unified the belts. There were no excuses, no ducking, no style that caused him problems. He deserved the next big fight.
I don't mean to get on your parrottism but can it be a little clearer?
LMAO.:roll:
This Casual.:facepalm
So Bud resigning with Arum knowing the big fights are in the other side of the street does not have anything to of him getting any big fight?:confusedshrug:
Casual gonna casual.
If Bud dare to be great, do what Sweet Pea (RIP) did. That’s another riddle for you casual. Can you finally get one at least.
Any fight fan can connect the dots to what I just said.
if you dunno:no:
Casual
Betta aks somebody:oldlol:
Pointguard
11-10-2020, 08:37 AM
LMAO.:roll:
This Casual.:facepalm
So Bud resigning with Arum knowing the big fights are in the other side of the street does not have anything to of him getting any big fight?:confusedshrug:
Arum got Loma a franchise belt so that he could avoid fighters. Bud was more deserving of a franchise belt. And Arum can't get Bud a fight after he clears out a division. Its because of racism, not because of this 'other side of the street" as some Vloggers say - and the parrot repeats. Andrade, the Charlo twins, Bud, Gary Russell, Andre Ward, Errol Spence all are/were denied some gate money, fights, p4p list too because of color.
If Bud dare to be great, do what Sweet Pea (RIP) did. That’s another riddle for you casual. Can you finally get one at least.
You are a casual parrot, why would I care to riddle with you? This isn't Batman. You don't know the main reason its happening now which would do you much more service than that De Lay Hoya stuff years ago. You have to step your game up. Give us an original thought rather than over quoting vloggers and trying way to hard to sound 1980ish. BTW, its "Betta ax sumbody." You are only 4 decades behind.
Rooster
11-10-2020, 11:47 AM
Arum got Loma a franchise belt so that he could avoid fighters. Bud was more deserving of a franchise belt. And Arum can't get Bud a fight after he clears out a division. Its because of racism, not because of this 'other side of the street" as some Vloggers say - and the parrot repeats. Andrade, the Charlo twins, Bud, Gary Russell, Andre Ward, Errol Spence all are/were denied some gate money, fights, p4p list too because of color.
You are a casual parrot, why would I care to riddle with you? This isn't Batman. You don't know the main reason its happening now which would do you much more service than that De Lay Hoya stuff years ago. You have to step your game up. Give us an original thought rather than over quoting vloggers and trying way to hard to sound 1980ish. BTW, its "Betta ax sumbody." You are only 4 decades behind.
LMAO :oldlol:
Franchise belt:roll:
only casuals get butthurt by those tag
LMAO
casual
ThatÂ’s nothing but a gimmick
For alphabets to collect more fees
LMAO
See casual , you canÂ’t even connect Bud with Sweet Pea daring to be great type of cojones .
instead you use a blanket statement like racism. WTF
action speaks louder than words
if Bud wanted a big fight
he could have simply went on and sign with PBC
They have all the fighters for a big fight
oh yeah for casual like you, itÂ’s the brother that runs it.
you keep trying to get out of your casual zone boyo:oldlol:
casuals gonna casual
betta aks somebody boyo
Pointguard
11-10-2020, 03:05 PM
LMAO :oldlol:
Franchise belt:roll:
only casuals get butthurt by those tag
casual
ThatÂ’s nothing but a gimmick
For alphabets to collect more fees
Its impossible to tell how much you are truly ignorant of. The franchise belt is an avoidance belt. It doesn't operate like other belts at all. Loma didn't have to give it to Teo. Please tell me you knew this.
See casual , you canÂ’t even connect Bud with Sweet Pea daring to be great type of cojones .
instead you use a blanket statement like racism. WTF
Ohhh. So Wow, you over here parading like a historian and you just said something that incredibly stupid. Which Black guy has a franchise belt? Mayweather didn't lose for 2 decades and didn't get one. In fact if you look at how the belt was distributed it was to deny Black fighters from getting title shots. Loma didn't want to fight Haney and asked for the Belt. Teo is doing the same. Alvarez is a warrior so I doubt that he requested the belt but he doesn't want to fight Charlo or Andrade and was given the franchise belt.
action speaks louder than words
if Bud wanted a big fight
he could have simply went on and sign with PBC
They have all the fighters for a big fight
oh yeah for casual like you, itÂ’s the brother that runs it.
you keep trying to get out of your casual zone boyo:oldlol:
casuals gonna casual
betta aks somebody boyo
Why did you waste time reading about Henry Armstrong and Jersey Joe if you have a weak concept of Race, History and Boxing. Why not just finish the circus books? You know you about that life. Well the parrot thing is coming along for you, dough, so maybe you can burn the candle on both ends. You can be a parrot in Macy's working in guess what section??? The casual section. That would be more impressive than your post here. Probably will get fired when you throw in "betta aks somebody" cause that's suppose to be your job. But we know you're limited.
Rooster
11-10-2020, 03:35 PM
Its impossible to tell how much you are truly ignorant of. The franchise belt is an avoidance belt. It doesn't operate like other belts at all. Loma didn't have to give it to Teo. Please tell me you knew this.
Ohhh. So Wow, you over here parading like a historian and you just said something that incredibly stupid. Which Black guy has a franchise belt? Mayweather didn't lose for 2 decades and didn't get one. In fact if you look at how the belt was distributed it was to deny Black fighters from getting title shots. Loma didn't want to fight Haney and asked for the Belt. Teo is doing the same. Alvarez is a warrior so I doubt that he requested the belt but he doesn't want to fight Charlo or Andrade and was given the franchise belt.
Why did you waste time reading about Henry Armstrong and Jersey Joe if you have a weak concept of Race, History and Boxing. Why not just finish the circus books? You know you about that life. Well the parrot thing is coming along for you, dough, so maybe you can burn the candle on both ends. You can be a parrot in Macy's working in guess what section??? The casual section. That would be more impressive than your post here. Probably will get fired when you throw in "betta aks somebody" cause that's suppose to be your job. But we know you're limited.
LMAO :oldlol:
Franchise belt is a hogwash casual.
WBA has been doing that for years
they just have a different label.
its the casuals like you that get confused.
Bud is actually one of my favorite fighter.
He is technically on Hagler level of ambidextrous .
But his 147 run leave a lot to be desired of
He has a chance to be on that opposite of the street yet he chose not to be
So casual, that’s on him
he’s not getting big fights because he made a choice not to.
Now he’s cherry picking someone who was once one of the best at 147.
But but but
Casuals like you can’t probably differentiate that nuance of cherrypicking.
And Walcott and Armstrong is a weak sauce of your claim.
Like I said you’re out of your casual zone.
Clueless casuals like you can’t probably figure out that some of the ATG never got a title shot because of racism
yet they are revered by fight fans.
That’s another riddle for you Casual
if you dunno
betta aks somebody boyo.
Pointguard
11-10-2020, 08:05 PM
LMAO :oldlol:
Franchise belt is a hogwash casual.
WBA has been doing that for years
It has nothing to do with the WBA. Its the WBC. Which has to do with all the politics of Loma asking for the belt to avoid Haney. Arum went to the WBC to get Loma the belt. Arum who made sure to ruin Bud's career does everything for Loma. To appease Loma's need to not get the Matrix exposed to Haney he got a belt that negates a mandatory. I still don't know why Loma gave Teo the franchise belt because he didn't have too. It's obvious that you don't have a clue about what the franchise belt is.
But his 147 run leave a lot to be desired of
He has a chance to be on that opposite of the street yet he chose not to be
So casual, that’s on him
he’s not getting big fights because he made a choice not to.
In the time of Henry Armstrong they didn't have TVs, internet or million dollar promoters. Champions didn't need that. Now Bud has a million dollar promoter that promoted Muhammad Ali and he has TV, and internet and you say he has to "cross the street." Yet you admit he's not getting fights. He went to Errol Spence himself and the fight is going to happen. Arum was getting millions to do it and couldn't do it. Are you intelligent enough to see what is the main factor?
And Walcott and Armstrong is a weak sauce of your claim.
Please, don't bring them up. You aren't bright enough to go there. They lived in concepts you proved you can't understand.
Rooster
11-10-2020, 08:47 PM
It has nothing to do with the WBA. Its the WBC. Which has to do with all the politics of Loma asking for the belt to avoid Haney. Arum went to the WBC to get Loma the belt. Arum who made sure to ruin Bud's career does everything for Loma. To appease Loma's need to not get the Matrix exposed to Haney he got a belt that negates a mandatory. I still don't know why Loma gave Teo the franchise belt because he didn't have too. It's obvious that you don't have a clue about what the franchise belt is.
In the time of Henry Armstrong they didn't have TVs, internet or million dollar promoters. Champions didn't need that. Now Bud has a million dollar promoter that promoted Muhammad Ali and he has TV, and internet and you say he has to "cross the street." Yet you admit he's not getting fights. He went to Errol Spence himself and the fight is going to happen. Arum was getting millions to do it and couldn't do it. Are you intelligent enough to see what is the main factor?
Please, don't bring them up. You aren't bright enough to go there. They lived in concepts you proved you can't understand.
This casual:roll:
WBA started calling their belt holder super champion when they unified.
Then have another guys fighting for their regular belt.
So in essence they have 2 champions .
Casual like you get confused
The same gimmick the WBC is doing except they call it Franchise belt.
and designate whoever they want
And no fight fan will fall with that gimmick.
But casuals like you is clueless.
LMAO about Bud and your casual thinking
PBC is founded by a brother
Spence fought Porter and Garcia Next
Porter fought Thurman and Garcia and Spence
Thurman fought PAC, Garcia and Porter
And Pac fought Thurman already
So among the big fights
where is mofo Bud on that equation
and now you are using Arum angle with Ali etc
Casuals talk.
if Bud wanted those big fights
He could have simply sign with PBC and got them.
and please stay inside your casual lane.
ThereÂ’s a reason why casuals like you have no clue.
so
betta aks someone boyo:oldlol:
Run DLC
11-10-2020, 11:24 PM
Crawford is overhyped and overrated. Fought nothing but tomato cans
Rooster
11-11-2020, 02:21 AM
Crawford is overhyped and overrated. Fought nothing but tomato cans
I dunno if you’re serious but Bud fought the best possible competition until he moved up to 147. Even at 147 those are not tomato cans, very good fighters. I gave him the benefit of the doubt until he decided to resign with Arum knowing the big fights are at PBC. Now he’s saying he does not need them and all that crap.
Since one casual can’t answer any riddle . I’m gonna unlock what Sweet Pea did that fight fans still revered until this day. Back then fight fans were thirsty for him and Chavez Sr squaring off. Despite with Fighting on a different promoters and different network, he found his way to fight Chavez and even he got robbed, fight fans still remember that W . If you look at how historians kindly ranked him and the Ring ranked Sweet Pea, he deserved all the acknowledgements.
Now Bud can’t even step up. He’s acting like a Diva and if his fight with Spence will never materialized he will go down as the duck artist.
Pointguard
11-11-2020, 01:30 PM
This casual:roll:
WBA started calling their belt holder super champion when they unified.
Then have another guys fighting for their regular belt.
So in essence they have 2 champions .
Casual like you get confused
The same gimmick the WBC is doing except they call it Franchise belt.
and designate whoever they want
And no fight fan will fall with that gimmick.
But casuals like you is clueless.
The Franchise Belt is a privilege's Belt. Which you don't know how it operates. Dude if you don't know how it works just ask. You pretending to be somebody in the know is old and weak.
LMAO about Bud and your casual thinking
PBC is founded by a brother
Spence fought Porter and Garcia Next
Porter fought Thurman and Garcia and Spence
Thurman fought PAC, Garcia and Porter
And Pac fought Thurman already
So among the big fights
where is mofo Bud on that equation
and now you are using Arum angle with Ali etc
Casuals talk.
if Bud wanted those big fights
He could have simply sign with PBC and got them.
Because you aren't bright enough to figure it out, which I should just expect all the time. I mentioned Bob Arum is because he's got sixty years experience. He goes back to the time to when not everybody had TV's, no internet, no social media. He's a promoter before most fighters had them. To act like he can't do fights is for idiots like you to believe.
True, Arum avoids fights his guy will likely lose. He get fights for his guys across the street all the time. He can do it. But he doesn't like Bud and Bud is slow to learn that. Or that Arum definitely was bent on having Loma ranked P4P number one at Bud's expense. I don't expect you to get anything I write that has a social angle on it. Its easy to tell by your vocabulary at 55 plus years old that being social isn't your thing.
Pointguard
11-11-2020, 01:36 PM
Crawford is overhyped and overrated. Fought nothing but tomato cans
He's fought some good guys but I think him not fighting Danny Garcia, Errol Spence and Manny hurts him. The lack of good fights lately will put him at risk with Kell Brook in the earlier rounds. Bud adjust and changes his game plan really well. After the 7th round Brook has no chance.
Rooster
11-11-2020, 02:02 PM
The Franchise Belt is a privilege's Belt. Which you don't know how it operates. Dude if you don't know how it works just ask. You pretending to be somebody in the know is old and weak.
Because you aren't bright enough to figure it out, which I should just expect all the time. I mentioned Bob Arum is because he's got sixty years experience. He goes back to the time to when not everybody had TV's, no internet, no social media. He's a promoter before most fighters had them. To act like he can't do fights is for idiots like you to believe.
True, Arum avoids fights his guy will likely lose. He get fights for his guys across the street all the time. He can do it. But he doesn't like Bud and Bud is slow to learn that. Or that Arum definitely was bent on having Loma ranked P4P number one at Bud's expense. I don't expect you to get anything I write that has a social angle on it. Its easy to tell by your vocabulary at 55 plus years old that being social isn't your thing.
LMAO.:roll:
No fight fan takes those tag seriously
Fights fans are more appreciative of level of competitions
Zero fcks given about those no nonsense belts.
Belts are stepping stones nowadays
They lost their novelties when IBF and WBO came in to the scene
and WBA have 2 champions when one took another major belt
and Alphabets keep creating weight classes
So instead of 12 champions in 12 weight classes
which is a stretch considering the original has 8
now you have 17 weight classes with
58 beltholders
If WBC keep designating Franchise beltholder
Thats enough to confused casuals like you
and more to collect money.
at the end of the day
Fight fans can separate champions from beltholders
Casual like you cant:no:
Arum got into boxing for work.
not Passion.
Arum will always serve his bottomline
fighters come and go
and he always get his end.
So to put that in perspective.
Bud can dare himself like Sweet Pea
And get his big fights.
But resigning with Arum so he get his
3 million guaranteed money on every single fight
is not someone whoÂ’s looking for a big fight.
so Betta aks somebody boyo.:oldlol:
and stay on your casual lane.:banana::banana:
Wally450
11-15-2020, 12:59 PM
Crawford needs to fight Spence after he disposes of Danny Garcia. Crawford’s resume is ass right now.
Pointguard
11-16-2020, 04:23 PM
Bob Arum complained that Bud Crawford doesn't promote his fights. He even said like Mayweather!!! Arum said the same thing about Mayweather and Mayweather had to leave Arum and became the biggest promoter ever in sports. Bud, Spence, Manny, Alvarez, Loma and Wilder all promote about the same. But somehow its only on Arum's guy and its the guy who gets the worse fights. I predicted that Arum was behaving in a certain way.
LoneyROY7
11-16-2020, 05:07 PM
Yo PG, your boy Devin "Pillow Hands" Haney ain't scaring anyone after that Gamboa fight.
Pointguard
11-16-2020, 05:52 PM
Yo PG, your boy Devin "Pillow Hands" Haney ain't scaring anyone after that Gamboa fight.
LOL, True That.
But he's knocked out others. And Gamboa, did the exact same thing with Tank. He know how to avoid getting knocked out and how to tie up. Devin won every round and didn't get hit much at all - The Floyd game. Shakur fights the same way. Devin has over 50 straight rounds where he has been more accurate and out landed the opponent.
Street Hunger
04-01-2021, 08:45 PM
Who are the 5-7 best boxers in the world right now?
Wally450
04-02-2021, 11:43 AM
Canelo
Tio Lopez
Joshua
Fury
Usyk
Bud Crawford
Spence
In no order by the way outside of Canelo 1.
Charlie Sheen
04-02-2021, 05:52 PM
Canelo
Tio Lopez
Joshua
Fury
Usyk
Bud Crawford
Spence
In no order by the way outside of Canelo 1.
Good list
I never saw teofimo coming. Was blinded by Haney thinking it was already written the division goes from loma to him.
2much_knowledge
04-03-2021, 01:15 AM
Who are the 5-7 best boxers in the world right now?
Canelo
Spence
Crawford
Inoue
Teo
Davis
Fury
2much_knowledge
04-03-2021, 01:17 AM
Im loving the senior circuit
Oscar
Floyd
Chavez sr
Cotto
Marquez
Barrera
All in action soon
Lebron23
06-27-2021, 09:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL741-fh_J0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee06FLKlqbQ
Both Gervonta Davis and Lomachenko have a solid performances in their respective fights
Jasper
06-28-2021, 09:10 AM
last night on Foxx had a pretty nice card.
two quality fights :D
Lebron23
06-28-2021, 09:58 AM
last night on Foxx had a pretty nice card.
two quality fights :D
Loma vs. Tanks needs to fight
Jasper
06-28-2021, 12:04 PM
10 4
Airupthere
06-28-2021, 03:25 PM
terence just wasting away his prime years
Lebron23
06-28-2021, 09:09 PM
terence just wasting away his prime years
Bob Arum is a terrible promoter.
Airupthere
06-29-2021, 02:22 PM
Bob Arum is a terrible promoter.
bob arum sucks but terence and his team are not exactly doing themselves a big favor either trying to act like they don't need to fight anyone else. terence does not have much in his resume. he needs to go after big names like spence, danny g, thurman, porter or pacquiao. but terence is acting like they should be the ones that should go after him.
Lebron23
06-30-2021, 12:22 PM
bob arum sucks but terence and his team are not exactly doing themselves a big favor either trying to act like they don't need to fight anyone else. terence does not have much in his resume. he needs to go after big names like spence, danny g, thurman, porter or pacquiao. but terence is acting like they should be the ones that should go after him.
Josh Taylor vs. Terrence Crawford is the biggest fight under the Top Rank promotions
Lebron23
07-01-2021, 08:10 AM
hopefully we see Josh Taylor vs. Terrence Crawford before he becomes a Free agent
Lebron23
07-18-2021, 08:23 AM
Brian Castano got robbed in the Jermell Charlo fight. He out landed Charlo. That was a terrible scoring by the judges.
Lebron23
07-19-2021, 02:15 PM
I hope they got a rematch immediately
Charlie Sheen
08-10-2021, 04:57 PM
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Lebron23
08-15-2021, 01:02 AM
John Riel Casimero defeated Rigondeaux via Split Decision in one of the most boring fights of all time Rigo landed only 44 punches while Casimero landed 47 punches.
Lebron23
11-28-2021, 02:38 AM
George Kambosos pulled an upset by defeating Teofimo Lopez
Pointguard
11-28-2021, 10:49 PM
George Kambosos pulled an upset by defeating Teofimo Lopez
Has to be the most humiliating lose ever. Teo thought he was the greatest ever. A 13 to 1 odds favorite and got beat bad.
Airupthere
11-29-2021, 09:54 AM
George Kambosos pulled an upset by defeating Teofimo Lopez
Sht, kambosos is legit
Rooster
11-29-2021, 02:08 PM
Sht, kambosos is legit
He remind me of Katsidis who was a warrior, Kambosos is way more polished though. The Aussies tend to get outclassed and whooped when they come here and faced bigger competition. Only Fenech was able to held his own. Others like Zu and Darchinyan are transplanted. There were others like Famechon who has battles with Fighting Harada etc.
Kambosos has good stamina and underrated boxing skills but I believed guys like Haney and Shakur will box his ears off. Teo just fought a wrong fight chasing that one big punch and never even utilized his jab. HeÂ’s always susceptible to right hands , Japanese dude was landing it consistently . Anyways Teo and Loma are both sore losers. Garcia is already looking forward to fight Kambosos so we could see that fight next.
Hey Yo
11-29-2021, 05:19 PM
Anyone watch Showtime Boxing Saturday a few days ago?
All 3 bouts went the distance.... great boxing, judges a little suspect though.
Pointguard
11-30-2021, 02:28 AM
Anyways Teo and Loma are both sore losers.
Weren't those two your picks earlier in this thread?
Both Teo and Loma took safer opponents to avoid fighting Haney. Both lost and now their careers are on drastically inferior paths because of their embarrassing losses. Why would you want to see Garcia fight next? That's a weird pick.
Rooster
11-30-2021, 11:56 AM
Weren't those two your picks earlier in this thread?
Both Teo and Loma took safer opponents to avoid fighting Haney. Both lost and now their careers are on drastically inferior paths because of their embarrassing losses. Why would you want to see Garcia fight next? That's a weird pick.
They are still my picks, I am just calling it like it is.
Those are not safe opponents by stretch of imagination , they were meant to showcase. It will be hard to do that against a slicker Haney. Kambosos beat a couple of very good fighters before Teo and Nakatani made a good account for himself against Teo and a game Verdejo.
Kambosos have all the belts now, this is his money time. Garcia is Oscar main stable and popular so that will bring money. Loma is the same with Arum. He can also utilize DiBella connection and fight Tank who has been cherrypicking for awhile now and some following. Maybe he can bring one of them to Australia with his accolades .
i like Haney but his chin is too vulnerable . I think he can outbox everyone buy heÂ’s susceptible to one hitter quitter.
Pointguard
11-30-2021, 01:14 PM
They are still my picks, I am just calling it like it is.
Those are not safe opponents by stretch of imagination , they were meant to showcase. It will be hard to do that against a slicker Haney. Kambosos beat a couple of very good fighters before Teo and Nakatani made a good account for himself against Teo and a game Verdejo.
Kambosos have all the belts now, this is his money time. Garcia is Oscar main stable and popular so that will bring money. Loma is the same with Arum. He can also utilize DiBella connection and fight Tank who has been cherrypicking for awhile now and some following. Maybe he can bring one of them to Australia with his accolades .
i like Haney but his chin is too vulnerable . I think he can outbox everyone buy heÂ’s susceptible to one hitter quitter.
Yeah, Kamboses is a pretty inspirational guy. I like him, he's gutsy and smart. He outboxed the guy who outboxed the Matrix. Both Teo and Loma are not as good of boxers as Shakur and Haney and aren't going to out point them in a fight and their offense isn't sophisticated enough to catch them. And lets just be plain: they don't seem to have the savy to escape Tank.
Ryan has trouble keeping his head in the game. He's doesn't seem the type that will go thru fighting a lot of guys to tough out being the best. He would be the third guy in a row that would avoid Haney. And Haney doesn't punch hard and gives the appearance he's beatable. Sobeit, if his concetration is there, its going to be very hard to catch him. Haney beats Linares in all 12 rounds if he didn't get sloppy and lose concentration; and none of the other guys can do that. These guys are young so they are going to make mistakes.
Teo and Loma had no plans to fight the big guys at 135. Lopez talked a ton of trash even to heavy weights.
Rooster
12-01-2021, 03:28 PM
Yeah, Kamboses is a pretty inspirational guy. I like him, he's gutsy and smart. He outboxed the guy who outboxed the Matrix. Both Teo and Loma are not as good of boxers as Shakur and Haney and aren't going to out point them in a fight and their offense isn't sophisticated enough to catch them. And lets just be plain: they don't seem to have the savy to escape Tank.
Ryan has trouble keeping his head in the game. He's doesn't seem the type that will go thru fighting a lot of guys to tough out being the best. He would be the third guy in a row that would avoid Haney. And Haney doesn't punch hard and gives the appearance he's beatable. Sobeit, if his concetration is there, its going to be very hard to catch him. Haney beats Linares in all 12 rounds if he didn't get sloppy and lose concentration; and none of the other guys can do that. These guys are young so they are going to make mistakes.
Teo and Loma had no plans to fight the big guys at 135. Lopez talked a ton of trash even to heavy weights.
I agree with you on Kambosos.
Loma and Teo already fought the big guys at 135. There’s a reason they have all the alphabets that Kambosos took. It’s Haney who actually have to prove himself and from the looks of it, he is willing. Also Tank has been cherrypicking and They are milking him.
Pointguard
12-02-2021, 07:26 PM
I agree with you on Kambosos.
Loma and Teo already fought the big guys at 135. There’s a reason they have all the alphabets that Kambosos took. It’s Haney who actually have to prove himself and from the looks of it, he is willing. Also Tank has been cherrypicking and They are milking him.
No they didn't fight any of the big guys (Lightweight) outside of each other: Shakur, Haney, Tank, Ryan Garcia are the other big guys. Teo only fought Commey and Loma vs the loss to Kambosos. Loma only beat Pedraza and Linares vs the loss to Teo. Both Teo and Loma lost embarrassingly bad. Loma got severly outboxed by Teo arguably the least skilled of the big six. Then Teo gets severly outboxed by Kambosos who was definitely not in the top six.
Tank is the biggest money maker in the bunch and has the biggest punch - He knocked out a 140 pound champion in a big way. His knock outs are the most brutal of the bunch. And the only ones more skilled than him are Shakur and Haney. While it is arguable the Loma is also top notch he seemingly got punched hard by Teo and refused to fight for six rounds. I would have Loma as one of the most skilled at 130lbs where he doesn't manifest that type of fear.
Hey Yo
12-10-2021, 11:42 PM
Just heard this for first time:
"The mouse under his right eye, has turned into a subway rat"
:roll:
Hey Yo
12-12-2021, 01:05 AM
Brandun Lee now 24-0 with 22ko's.
Tonight marked his 15th straight stoppage by victory.... fight was at 140#
Airupthere
03-17-2022, 08:44 PM
Spence vs ugas soon. I got spence by ud.
Lebron23
03-20-2022, 03:22 PM
Canelo is going to KO Bivol
2much_knowledge
03-24-2022, 12:02 AM
So dissapointed in berlanga. No next cotto or tito for us yet
Airupthere
03-31-2022, 10:03 AM
So dissapointed in berlanga. No next cotto or tito for us yet
Stills needs work to do
Lebron23
05-01-2022, 04:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACzN0FbnM9M
Shakur schooled Oscar Valdez
2much_knowledge
05-02-2022, 01:14 AM
Man. Serrano vs taylor was awesome!! Glad it lived up to the hype
Pointguard
05-08-2022, 03:27 PM
Bivol really won every round against Canelo. The judging (Josh Taylor) has been horrid.
Airupthere
05-11-2022, 02:02 PM
Bivol really won every round against Canelo. The judging (Josh Taylor) has been horrid.
That was definitely more one-sided than 115-113.
Pointguard
05-11-2022, 10:57 PM
That was definitely more one-sided than 115-113.
Canelo said he should have not gained that much weight and Bivol said ok we can fight at a lesser weight. Canelo didn't want to hear that. If a fighter is strong, skilled and can move their feet its a problem for Canelo. Canelo doesn't want to fight Benevidez or even Charlo.
Lebron23
05-15-2022, 02:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ucNNfUzQN4
Zurdo Ramirez vs. Dominic Boesel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDjGEeM5bZQ
Jermell Charlo KOs Brian Castano With Power Left Hook In Round 10
Lebron23
06-07-2022, 09:15 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhXCQGMYi6Y
Pointguard
06-07-2022, 10:40 PM
I agree with you on Kambosos.
Loma and Teo already fought the big guys at 135. There’s a reason they have all the alphabets that Kambosos took. It’s Haney who actually have to prove himself and from the looks of it, he is willing. Also Tank has been cherrypicking and They are milking him.
So are you willing to say that Haney proved himself. All the stuff I said 5 pages back has come to be.
King Kawhi
06-10-2022, 11:06 PM
So are you willing to say that Haney proved himself. All the stuff I said 5 pages back has come to be.
Haney's good just boring as F
2much_knowledge
06-12-2022, 01:39 AM
Haney's good just boring as F
Haney is the epitome of do enough to win and move on lol
Pointguard
06-12-2022, 04:21 PM
Haney is the epitome of do enough to win and move on lol
Not feeling this at all. I don't know of a fight where he didn't win 8 rounds clearly. He had a recent string of where he out punched his opponents in over 60 straight rounds. Thats over five straight fights. He rarely takes a round off.
Haney's good just boring as F
His opponents said this in efforts to avoid him. Rollie recently said this but there was footage of a 19 year old Haney punishing him - all the other young fighters still make fun of Rollie because of this - Rollie is like 4 years older than Haney. Only Tank makes more money than him in the ring so this absurd suggestion doesn't translate to the fans in general. Of the better lightweights he's more active punching wise in the ring then them all. And he has the best defense. And he has the best leg movement. There is definitely something there to watch if you are a fan. Domination and activity is never boring in any sport.
Kambosos was alot quicker to the punch than Teo and he couldn't even find Haney. Linares were never hit more in a fight.
He's dominated his last 4 opponents, all of which had titles, and won at least 8 rounds in all the fights. If power punching is your thing that's weird because nobody here ever mention Tank and Ryan. What do you guys find exciting?
Lebron23
06-19-2022, 05:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCTbLrLLeFo
Beterviev would KO Bivol.
Patrick Chewing
06-20-2022, 12:04 PM
These ****ing Chechens are built different. Beterbiev is a monster.
Pointguard
06-21-2022, 08:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCTbLrLLeFo
Beterviev would KO Bivol.
Yeah, what was Canelo thinking?
Lebron23
10-30-2022, 04:13 PM
Haney and Stevenson would beat these current version of Lomachenko
Pointguard
12-31-2022, 01:32 AM
Haney and Stevenson would beat these current version of Lomachenko
I don't think Shakur ever has a problem with him. Loma's stance seems taylor made for him. Haney's gets better as he gets older. Loma hasn't faced guys with good foot movement, and who control the distance. Teo, the least skill dominant of the new comers, has those qualites to a much less degree and had his way with Loma, when he remembered to do those things.
Lebron23
05-25-2023, 04:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzqp2ZMDPwQ
Wally450
05-27-2023, 09:48 AM
Terrance Crawford vs Errol Spence finally getting it on July 29th. Hope Spence stops Bud. Nothing but tomato can fights.
Airupthere
05-27-2023, 11:31 PM
Terrance Crawford vs Errol Spence finally getting it on July 29th. Hope Spence stops Bud. Nothing but tomato can fights.
I hope so too but bud seems to have had a better chin at welterweight and seems to have brought his power. We’ll see. Can’t wait for this fight.
Lebron23
06-11-2023, 08:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTmgJ0CCfOs
Teofimo Lopez Upsets Josh Taylor to Win Jr. Welterweight Title | FIGHT HIGHLIGHTS
Patrick Chewing
06-11-2023, 12:08 PM
Taylor didn't look like a lineal champ last night. Looked completely outmatched.
Lebron23
07-26-2023, 06:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrKv_LpRtK0 Naoya Inoue didn't beat a paper champion. He just defeated the best boxer in that division. I think he is going to move up to another division. and clean house.
Im so nba'd out
07-28-2023, 07:54 PM
Errol “The truth aka big fish aka man down aka mr put em in the dirt aka belt snatcher” Spence Jr vs Terence“bud aka switch hitter ” Crawford
Biggest fight since triple G vs canelo. This is for all the belts people….It’s going down….I repeat it is going down!
1987_Lakers
07-29-2023, 10:15 AM
Yall see Plant slap Charlo?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_UWkKJC5MEU
magic chiongson
08-21-2023, 12:33 PM
you guys still alive? gimme charlie z updates
quickeyg
10-26-2023, 11:52 AM
Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou coming up Saturday afternoon. Planned a fight party for this one. Feel free to post your predictions. The fight promo (Bang/Smash Bang/Smash Bang/Smash and song/music video 'Pepper' is impressive. These Saudi's know how to put a show on. I'll end up making everyone's fav (Thanks to me) long grain rice with chicken jalfrezi - it's so tasty plus I'll stock up on packs of jaffa cakes. Rumours of Eminem and Floyd Mayweather attending this event. I heard they will have a massive Gala Dinner with ex champions there plus celebrities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ8PVniyVJ4&pp=ygUPdG9wIHJhbmsgYm94aW5n
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8n4PxcxwxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzJhlJdYvwA&pp=ygUGcGVwcGVy
SATAN
10-28-2023, 05:28 PM
Saudis are trying to hard with this stuff...
SATAN
10-28-2023, 06:36 PM
One hour of pointless bullshit. Start the fight already.
AirBonner
10-28-2023, 08:36 PM
Fury a sad pathetic “champ” boxing down bad after this
John8204
10-28-2023, 10:40 PM
Ngannou got robbed but man is the PFL happy with this signing his next fight is going to make money.
sdot_thadon
10-29-2023, 12:21 PM
Terribly embarrassing night for boxing lol. He probably just left tens of millions on the canvas where he fell ugh.
Hey Yo
11-12-2023, 01:19 AM
https://youtu.be/oxUx0bhGFHM?si=DhucRyqmq6CU9fk-
Street Hunger
11-15-2023, 09:14 PM
Who are the best few current boxers in the world?
quickeyg
01-30-2024, 11:08 AM
We have waited almost 25 years for the a heavyweight Undisputed Champion (Lennox Lewis vs Evander Holyfield was the last heavyweight Undisputed fight) and now it's going down Feb 17th in Saudi. Fury and Usyk are both unbeaten. Who do you think will win and how? Tune in sports fans, prepare your fight party now and remember to check the time difference, the fight is shown much earlier in the US/Canada. Espn will likely show the fight on ppv.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K6djs71aBI&pp=ygUgdHlzb24gZnVyeSB1c3lrIHByZXNzIGNvbmZlcmVuY2U %3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M7Gv4PIk_Y&pp=ygUPdHlzb24gZnVyeSB1c3lr
Jasper
03-06-2024, 08:38 PM
what a couple vids of Sugar ray yesterday.
He reminded me of Ali when young.
Missus the size difference which boxer would beat the other ??
I saw both box in their day , and always thought Ali ... but Sugar ray had lots of brains.
SATAN
03-06-2024, 09:34 PM
Been enjoying BKFC. Less skilled but shorter more brutal matches. All the big stuff seems rigged as **** these days anyway.
Mask the Embiid
03-07-2024, 11:55 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/DwdL9HFC/IMG-1730.jpg
Netflix has 228-260 million subscribers….this will be the biggest fight of this century….
Wally450
03-08-2024, 11:56 AM
Jake Paul fighting Mike Tyson, meanwhile, Ryan Garcia having meltdowns and saying he was kidnapped and was forced to watch people rape little kids. Dude needs serious help.
BurningHammer
03-08-2024, 03:46 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/DwdL9HFC/IMG-1730.jpg
Netflix has 228-260 million subscribers….this will be the biggest fight of this century….
AT&T Stadium? How many people the event will draw in a stadium that can pack over 100K?
Wally450
03-08-2024, 09:22 PM
Anthony Joshua just flatlines Francis Ngannou in the second round.
https://dubz.co/v/kprf00
ShawkFactory
03-10-2024, 05:08 PM
Anthony Joshua just flatlines Francis Ngannou in the second round.
https://dubz.co/v/kprf00
My god.
Looks like AJ took it a little more seriously than Fury did.
ShawkFactory
03-10-2024, 05:09 PM
Anthony Joshua just flatlines Francis Ngannou in the second round.
https://dubz.co/v/kprf00
My god.
Looks like AJ took it a little more seriously than Fury did.
tpols
03-11-2024, 01:53 PM
Francis is taking these boxing matches because they pay way more money than MMA.
It's a shame too because in a real fight where you can throw kicks and wrestle Francis would absolutely destroy these guys.
ShawkFactory
03-11-2024, 02:55 PM
Francis is taking these boxing matches because they pay way more money than MMA.
It's a shame too because in a real fight where you can throw kicks and wrestle Francis would absolutely destroy these guys.
Why is that a shame? Boxing is a sport that people train specifically in. Why does it matter who would win a "real" fight?
tpols
03-11-2024, 03:31 PM
Because a real fight doesn't handicap you to just throwing punches. Boxers would get absolutely wrecked in a real fight with an MMA pro because their scope of fighting is extremely myopic. Francis could end these dudes with leg kicks or slams no problem. He had the balls to go into their arena but they would NEVER go into his. :lol
ShawkFactory
03-11-2024, 10:58 PM
Because a real fight doesn't handicap you to just throwing punches. Boxers would get absolutely wrecked in a real fight with an MMA pro because their scope of fighting is extremely myopic. Francis could end these dudes with leg kicks or slams no problem. He had the balls to go into their arena but they would NEVER go into his. :lol
Yea dude…I understand the difference between boxing and MMA. I’m just wondering why that matters. Michael Jordan was more athletic than all of those AA baseball players. That doesn’t make him better at baseball, and bringing up overall athleticism in that case, as you’ve done here overall fighting, just seems salty.
Wally450
03-13-2024, 12:28 PM
Francis is taking these boxing matches because they pay way more money than MMA.
It's a shame too because in a real fight where you can throw kicks and wrestle Francis would absolutely destroy these guys.
At the end of the day it's about getting paid. Which is why Francis made the move as you mentioned. Why fight tooth and nail for peanuts?
quickeyg
04-14-2024, 04:11 PM
Over 1 month to Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk to go.
May 18th
Undisputed
Billed as: Ring of Fire
8 titles will be on the line.
Who you got winning and how?
Big up Turki Alal Shikh for investing in boxing over in Saudi (Check out his Youtube channel out)
**** Double check the time difference (Shown early in America/Canada/Mexico)
Few words from Furys Wife, Paris.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d_eeC1fiUc
King of London Frank Warren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJZiaFTSrPU
More words from Tyson Fury.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW34T6uWBx0
Mask the Embiid
06-16-2024, 01:07 AM
we need loma vs tank. i think tank knocks him down multiple times and maybe stops him. great night of boxing. hopefully, canelo grows some nuts and fights David. David would get knocked out cold vs beterbiev (if he is the same after the knee injury) David would beat bivol. Canelo would beat crawford.
David vs canelo should be next cause it the only 50-50 fight out of all the fights i named.
quickeyg
07-17-2024, 02:10 PM
Israil Madrimov vs Terence 'Bud' Crawford (Main Event)
Titles on the line - WBA World Super Welter and the WBO Interim World Super Welter
Jared Anderson vs Martin Bakole
Andy Ruiz vs Jarrell Miller
David Morrell vs Radivoje Kalajdzic
Isaac Cruz vs Jose Valenzuela
Andy Cruz vs Antonio Moran
Don't forget about the beating Bud Crawford gave Errol Spence Jr last year (July 29th fight)
Check out the Fight Promo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ1B1e4wW4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWFlynx5M2U
Airupthere
07-19-2024, 01:09 PM
Easy fight for bud
quickeyg
09-14-2024, 10:52 AM
Next Saturday (September 21st) Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois from Wembley Stadium in London, England - highly suggest you tune into this fight. 90,000 almost sell out and Liam Gallagher will be singing from Oasis.
It's a $20 pay per view event so head over to Dazn, Espn or ppv dot com and buy (Great price don't you think fight fans?
I Expect FIREWORKS and chaos.
highwhey
09-14-2024, 11:19 PM
Next Saturday (September 21st) Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois from Wembley Stadium in London, England - highly suggest you tune into this fight. 90,000 almost sell out and Liam Gallagher will be singing from Oasis.
It's a $20 pay per view event so head over to Dazn, Espn or ppv dot com and buy (Great price don't you think fight fans?
I Expect FIREWORKS and chaos.
if you wish to continue advertising dazn sports, you'll have to slide me a free dzn membership and $500 per fight promo. i'll have my assistant be in touch with you.
quickeyg
12-07-2024, 12:27 PM
The hunted has now become the hunter. Coming up Saturday December 21st day time, the big rematch Usyk vs Fury 2. Get ready for another fight party, split that 40 bucks ppv money between your guests and away we go.
Like Maximus said: Are you not entertained?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_dZH2jD0s&pp=ygUJdXN5ayBmdXJ5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzAH7HNKNEs&pp=ygUJdXN5ayBmdXJ5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT1ARkrNG5U&pp=ygUJdXN5ayBmdXJ5
Usyk got this
Looking forward to Beterbiev-Bivol 2
Hey Yo
12-21-2024, 07:39 PM
Usyk defeats Tyson Fury via unanimous decision and retains his WBA, WBC and WBO world heavyweight titles
https://x.com/DAZNBoxing/status/1870612962165313848
quickeyg
02-05-2025, 07:11 AM
Mouth watering fights coming up in several weeks time all for 27 bucks live on the Dazn platform.
Sports fans plan your fight party now. Make sure to check the time difference, due to the fights being held in Saudi.
Artur Beterbiev vs Dmitrii Bivol 2
Daniel Dubois vs Joseph Parker
Carlos Adames vs Hamzah Sheeraz
Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Israil Madrimov
Shakur Stevenson vs Floyd Schofield
Zhilei Zhang vs Agit Kabayel
Joshua Buatsi vs Callum Smith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjrTKYv39PI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQWApyB5cWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLHd7LbcgEg
Lebron23
02-14-2025, 03:07 AM
I think his Buckley lost probably sent Colby Covington to retirement. He was beat up in that fight.
https://youtu.be/H74xmKoyWmI?si=_nvFTkYId-F_VUro
Lebron23
02-23-2025, 03:30 AM
Dmitry Bivol BEATS Artur Beterbiev by majority decision to win the undisputed Ring, WBA, WBC, IBF & WBO light-heavyweight world titles.
Mask the Embiid
02-27-2025, 11:45 PM
Whats yall p4p list looking like now?
Usyk
Crawford
Inoue
Bivol
Beterbiev
Canelo
Haney
Benavidez
Shakur
Bam
Tank dodged a bullet. Didn’t get penalized for taking a knee. Roach surpringly fought all. I thought he won. A majority draw was weird.
highwhey
03-03-2025, 01:54 AM
Tank dodged a bullet. Didn’t get penalized for taking a knee. Roach surpringly fought all. I thought he won. A majority draw was weird.
if by dodged a bullet you mean blatant official bias/corruption
highwhey
03-03-2025, 01:55 AM
Whats yall p4p list looking like now?
Usyk
Crawford
Inoue
Bivol
Beterbiev
Canelo
Haney
Benavidez
Shakur
Bam
i was not impressed with benavidez in his latest bout. he's too slow, it helps that he has a strong jaw and can take hits but he moves so fcking slow. his opponent was fast but still, B moves like he has cement bags attached to his legs.
BurningHammer
03-21-2025, 11:21 PM
RIP George Foreman :(
Wally450
03-21-2025, 11:42 PM
RIP George Foreman :(
Gonna go back and watch all those fights form the 70s.
Im so nba'd out
05-22-2025, 11:42 PM
Bud vs Canelo is official
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/G15J4Y7ZhTwC6xVqz3PWTUnRk4g=/0x0:1912x1078/620x413/filters:focal(751x49:1055x353):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/74063940/canelocrawford.0.png
who you got?
Wally450
05-23-2025, 09:41 PM
Canelo by UD.
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