USA Basketball is Deteriorating

[Angel Face]

Lack of stars? I don't think so. The 3 point chucking in the NBA, small line up and soft rules was exposed during international play. The NBA has become soft for over the years but this must be its all time low. Raw rookies entering every year's draft. AAU soft ***** ball, The system is broken.

Bring back the old rules, grit and grind, and let the players play and develop their fundamentals in college before entering as a raw rookie. The current NBA is seriously lacking maturity, toughness and fundamentals.

This is alarming. It has supposed to be the best talent in the world but it got spanked left and right in the international stage by supposed to be inferior talent.

[scuzzy]

deteriorating as in roster recruiting


this team USA didn't even have a top 30 US player on it


Pop thought he could outshine coach K with his D-team selections and it flopped

[MrFonzworth]

deteriorating as in roster recruiting


this team USA didn't even have a top 30 US player on it


Pop thought he could outshine coach K with his D-team selections and it flopped
This. Cant believe thar pedo still has a job. Will all change once the tapes release.

[Xiao Yao You]

Lack of stars? I don't think so. The 3 point chucking in the NBA, small line up and soft rules was exposed during international play. The NBA has become soft for over the years but this must be its all time low. Raw rookies entering every year's draft. AAU soft ***** ball, The system is broken.

Bring back the old rules, grit and grind, and let the players play and develop their fundamentals in college before entering as a raw rookie. The current NBA is seriously lacking maturity, toughness and fundamentals.

This is alarming. It has supposed to be the best talent in the world but it got spanked left and right in the international stage by supposed to be inferior talent.

I don't think college is necessarily the answer. They are close to having a real minir league system. Kids should be able to go pro they should just be in the Gleague until they are ready.

Not really alarming that replacements got beat though

[Xiao Yao You]

deteriorating as in roster recruiting


this team USA didn't even have a top 30 US player on it


Pop thought he could outshine coach K with his D-team selections and it flopped

Coach K lost in 2006 with a better team because he didn't make any changes against Greece's pick and roll and ran no plays on offense

[scuzzy]

Coach K lost in 2006 with a better team because he didn't make any changes against Greece's pick and roll and ran no plays on offense


3 Olympic golds and another handful of Fiba chips since

[Xiao Yao You]

3 Olympic golds and another handful of Fiba chips since

Popovich will win gold next year too.

[Dr Hawk]

Coach K lost in 2006 with a better team because he didn't make any changes against Greece's pick and roll and ran no plays on offense

No plays on offense has been the standard for the USAB. They have always relied on individualities. The difference this year is that instead of having Kobe, Durant or Wade making the plays happen they had Brown, Kemba, Middleton and another non all time great talents.

[superduper]

Oh look at that no Kobe Bryant and team USA is irrelevant once again.

Strange coincidence, no?

[Xiao Yao You]

No plays on offense has been the standard for the USAB. They have always relied on individualities. The difference this year is that instead of having Kobe, Durant or Wade making the plays happen they had Brown, Kemba, Middleton and another non all time great talents.

exactly. next year they will have the A team. it's hardly alarming what happened

[Dr Hawk]

exactly. next year they will have the A team. it's hardly alarming what happened

The problem is that there won't be all-time great talent available next year.

[Xiao Yao You]

The problem is that there won't be all-time great talent available next year.

Our best will be heavy favorites. That is still no guarantee. Our all-time greats have been challenged as well

[scuzzy]

All in all this was great for basketball, seeing team USA lose


It will generate a lot more international pooling


Imagine if the NFL had this type of international compatition in that sport? All Samoan team? All New Zealand?

Rugby gods

[Smoke117]

We didn't even send one top 20 player, moron. Basketball is more popular around the world, so of course when we send our D team they lose. Learn basketball, fakkot.

[Round Mound]

What if the USA sent:

Russell Westbrook, Steph Curry, Chris Paul, James Harden, Kawhi Leonard, Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins etc?

[scuzzy]

What if the USA sent:

Russell Westbrook, Steph Curry, Chris Paul, James Harden, Kawhi Leonard, Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins etc?
Overwhelming landslide


Problem is most of these players already did 2 terms in FIBA comp, that's 6 summers.

And when you're stretching into May-Jun playoffs continually + 82gm seasons? fck that :oldlol:

What's the payout? The olympic orgy with Brazil volleyball teams? 1 goldy is enough

[Xiao Yao You]

What if the USA sent:

Russell Westbrook, Steph Curry, Chris Paul, James Harden, Kawhi Leonard, Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins etc?

No thanks on Cousins and Westbrook

[scuzzy]

No thanks on Cousins and Westbrook
yeah i'd trade Kyrie w Westbrook


Irving tore it up in 2016

[bison]

This year

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE=bison]This year

[bison]

playoffs in the east

2nd round exit at best.

[SomeBlackDude]

[QUOTE=bison]This year

[Xiao Yao You]

and the teams that shit on team usa would be? :oldlol:

gasol
fernandez
rubio
claver
llull

that lineup just won gold... would they be a top 5 team in the nba?

stop making excuses.

USA beat Spain in an exhibition. Unfortunately they drew Gobert and company

[stalkerforlife]

and the teams that shit on team usa would be? :oldlol:

gasol
fernandez
rubio
claver
llull

that lineup just won gold... would they be a top 5 team in the nba?

stop making excuses.

Exactly.

USA had the talent, but couldn't win because of piss poor strategy and lack of real basketball fundamentals and teamwork.

On paper, they were the most talented team.

Supposedly.

Unless of course, the NBA is manufacturing talent.

[90sgoat]

What if the USA sent:

Russell Westbrook, Steph Curry, Chris Paul, James Harden, Kawhi Leonard, Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins etc?

Westbrook would be far less effective.

Curry would be great I think.

Chris Paul, who knows, he is old.

Harden, same as Westbrook.

Kawhi, great.

Durant, injured.

Lebron, old, can't shoot.

Davis, great.

Cousins, was trash last he tried, couldn't stay on the floor.

Honestly man, I think you overestimate these "stars". Kawhi, Curry, Davis, those are guys who fit FIBA. The rest would struggle.

[scuzzy]

It's only going to get harder to recruit Top US talent too

The incentives are simply too low, couple thousand to risk injury is not worth it when aces are looking at 1/4 billion dollar super max's

1 USA term early in career will start to be the only enticing option the way cap has risen

Paul George was lucky he bounced back the way he did

[90sgoat]

The real issue is that there are no FIBA adaptable young stars on the timeline.

All those guys, Paul, Harden, Westbrook, Curry, Lebron, Durant are older guys now. Gone in a few years.

Who is next?

AD, yes.

Then who as superstars under 25?

Zion?

[Xiao Yao You]

Westbrook would be far less effective.

Curry would be great I think.

Chris Paul, who knows, he is old.

Harden, same as Westbrook.

Kawhi, great.

Durant, injured.

Lebron, old, can't shoot.

Davis, great.

Cousins, was trash last he tried, couldn't stay on the floor.

Honestly man, I think you overestimate these "stars". Kawhi, Curry, Davis, those are guys who fit FIBA. The rest would struggle.

I believe the rest have all won gold already despite all their flaws

[scuzzy]

I believe the rest have all won gold already despite all their flaws

yep, multiple golds in a few cases


2016 USA molly whopped Rio with their B-squad

[Xiao Yao You]

yep, multiple golds in a few cases


2016 USA molly whopped Rio with their B-squad

The reality is that the USA is still the team to beat. They weren't that far off this year. If they hadn't drawn France who knows

[scuzzy]

The reality is that the USA is still the team to beat. They weren't that far off this year. If they hadn't drawn France who knows

IDK, this team was poorly constructed and Pops rotations were questionable at best.


The pieces just didn't fit and had no reliable players in crunch time. Not like other US teams had, that really squeezed the neck on defense and locked teams up


How many of those guys even had crucial NBA playoff experience? None that mattered

[Xiao Yao You]

IDK, this team was poorly constructed and Pops rotations were questionable at best.


The pieces just didn't fit and had no reliable players in crunch time.


How many of those guys even had NBA playoff experience? None that mattered

Considering how many guys dropped out I'm not sure what else they could have done

[Bronbron23]

Man everyone needs to relax. This USA team was a c team at best. If it was LeBron, kd, curry, Klay, harden, ad,kawhi and Paul George USA wins for sure.

[paksat]

has little to do with what we sent and more to do with how bball players play these days.

[Xiao Yao You]

has little to do with what we sent and more to do with how bball players play these days.

wouldn't have mattered how they played if they had their best team

[tpols]

and the teams that shit on team usa would be? :oldlol:

gasol
fernandez
rubio
claver
llull

that lineup just won gold... would they be a top 5 team in the nba?

stop making excuses.


euros have always played with a higher brand of teamwork. (smarter)

Given similar talent or even a slight deficit they will almost certainly win.

Thats why teams like the spurs are always successful no matter their personel they play like em.

Thats why a shrimp like steph curry was able to make a go-rilla built LBJ his biatch.

[gabepizza]

You guys are crazy. Before this tournament the USA had won 5 straight tournaments. The last 2 finals had been 30 point blowouts. No country in any sport had been that dominant.

So we send in the B team and finally lost a tournament. At least now it's more interested.

But again 5 tournaments in a row.

[SamuraiSWISH]

C - A. Davis / Aldridge
F - LeBron / Green
F - KD / Leonard
G - Harden / Klay / Booker / Beal
G - Curry / Kyrie / Dame / CP3

Any combo of the following would

[nashwade]

this 7th placing USA team wouldn't even make it to the NBA playoffs LOL

[LostCause]

this 7th placing USA team wouldn't even make it to the NBA playoffs LOL

They

[MrFonzworth]

[QUOTE=LostCause]They