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Lebron23
06-27-2007, 11:16 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2074360


1. Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs, 1998-present

TD dominates at both ends of the floor. The Big Fundamental has two NBA championships with San Antonio in 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007(more than Malone, Barkley and Pettit combined). Stats and awards don't begin to tell the Tim Duncan story, but here are a few. MVP awards in 2002 and 2003, an all-league defender, and a 22.8 points per game average in his first seven seasons. He is 4 time NBA Champion and a 2 time MVP Winner.


2. Karl Malone – Utah Jazz, L.A. Lakers 1986-2004

The Mailman is simply the best low-post scoring power forward ever. And he was a lethal mid-range shooter. The 11-time NBA first-team player is second all-time in NBA scoring. The guy scored 36,928 points. That's a lot of picks and rolls and post ups. His 25.0 career average is another reason why this two-time MVP was voted onto the NBA's Top 50 squad.



3. Charles Barkley – Philadelphia 76ers,

Phoenix Suns, Houston Rockets 1985-2000

At less than 6-foot-5, Barkley is, inch for inch, arguably the most productive player ever. This top 50 player of all-time was a relentless scorer and one of the strongest in the low post. He was a first or second NBA teamer for 10 seasons. Over 16 seasons, Barkley averaged 22.1 points.


4. Kevin McHale – Boston Celtics 1981-1993


Greatest post moves ever at the four spot. One-third of the best frontline of all time. McHale not only was voted as one of the NBA's Top 50, but won three championships with the Celtics in 1981, '84, and '86. Early in his career, he became one of the greatest sixth men ever. McHale spent his entire career with Boston, averaging 17.9 points.


5. Bob Pettit – Milwaukee/St. Louis Hawks 1955-1965

Defined power-forward position. Before him there were just forwards. Pettit's Hawks topped the Celtics with Bob Cousy and Bill Russell in the NBA Finals in 1958. This top 50 player off all-time averaged 26.4 points over his career. This is quite a feat considering the era in which he played.


6. Kevin Garnett – Minnesota T-wolves 1996-present

Garnett plays the right way. He brings it every night. The MVP in 2004, Garnett is a four-time All-NBA defensive team member and has made the first or second All-NBA time five times. K-G has averaged 20.2 points and 11.1 rebounds over his career, all with the T-wolves.

7. Elvin Hayes – San Diego/Houston Rockets,

Baltimore/Capital/Washington Bullets 1969-1984

The Big E was an offensive machine. He could score from anywhere plus rebound and defend. Hayes voted one of the top 50 players of all-time. Won a championship with Washington in 1978 and is its all-time leader in points and blocked shots.

8. Dave DeBusschere – Detroit Pistons,
New York Knicks 1963-1974

One of the links to two championship teams in New York in 1970 and 1973. DeBusschere was a strong, smart forward who could shoot with the best of them. He was voted as one of the top 50 players of all time.


9. Buck Williams – New Jersey Nets, Portland Trail Blazers, New York Knicks 1982-1998

Buck played 17 seasons with three teams and was one of the toughest, hard-nosed leaders of his era. Like Garnett, he came to play every single night. Buck is the all-time leading scorer and rebounder in New Jersey Nets history and helped the Blazers get to the Finals in 1990.


10. Dirk Nowitzki – Dallas Mavericks 1999-Present

No power forward dead or alive could keep him from dropping 20. Maybe Rodman. Best shooting big man ever … and he can drive and dunk it like a swinger. Another revolutionary, like Malone.



How is Buck Williams is on this lists?


:confusedshrug:

Rank them yourself

http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/listranker?id=291

chains5000
06-27-2007, 11:19 AM
Buck played 17 seasons with three teams and was one of the toughest, hard-nosed leaders of his era. Like Garnett, he came to play every single night. Buck is the all-time leading scorer and rebounder in New Jersey Nets history and helped the Blazers get to the Finals in 1990.
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1987_Lakers
06-27-2007, 11:19 AM
This is 2 years old.

Tim Duncan only had 2 Rings in June 3, 2005:confusedshrug:

1987_Lakers
06-27-2007, 11:21 AM
How is Buck Williams is on this lists?

:confusedshrug:

Rank them yourself

http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/listranker?id=291

Id take Buck Williams over Rasheed Wallace anyday.

Lebron23
06-27-2007, 11:26 AM
Id take Buck Williams over Rasheed Wallace anyday.

I take Chris Webber over Buck Williams anyday he has many chance to win the MVP Award especially during the time that he plays for the Sacramento Kings. The guy is a great passer, have a decent shooting, can dribble the ball and have a great basketball IQ. Although he was an unproven winner how can you denied the fact that he have many memorable season before he was traded to the Sixers and Pistons.

statman32
06-27-2007, 11:31 AM
I take Chris Webber over Buck Williams anyday he has many chance to win the MVP Award especially during the time that he plays for the Sacramento Kings. They guy is a great passer, have a decent shooting, can dribble the ball and have a great basketball IQ.
and he was limited by injuries. Buck was one of the best rebounders ever and was a very good defender. He did this over 17 very consistent years where he was rarely injured.

Lebron23
06-27-2007, 11:34 AM
Here is what the real list should look like in 5-10 years:

1.Duncan
2. Malone
3. Barkley
4. Amare Stoudemire
5. Garnett
6. Nowitzki
7. Mchale
8. Bosh
9. Brand
10. Webber

Kebab Stall
06-27-2007, 11:36 AM
Here is what the real list should look like in 5-10 years:

1.Duncan
2. Malone
3. Barkley
4. Amare Stoudemire
5. Garnett
6. Nowitzki
7. Mchale
8. Bosh
9. Brand
10. Webber
Edit: Never mind this post I misread.

Lebron23
06-27-2007, 11:38 AM
Why is Malone ahead of Duncan?


Tim Duncan is ahead of Karl Malone , Malone might be the 2nd All time NBA Leading score but Tim Duncan has 4 NBA Championship rings in his fingers.

dejordan
06-27-2007, 11:39 AM
i don't have any problem with that list. you could change the order some, but i guess those are basically the right names. dirk might slide up thanks to his mvp season last year and making the finals the year before. it's a shame about kemp, because he was more physically gifted than any of those guys. and webber may actually have been the most diversely skilled ever at the position, but he couldn't stay healthy or produce in the clutch.

Kebab Stall
06-27-2007, 11:41 AM
Tim Duncan is ahead of Karl Malone , Malone might be the 2nd All time NBA Leading score but Tim Duncan has 4 NBA Championship rings in his fingers.
Yeah, I misread your post. I thought it said that Malone was ahead of Duncan. That's I edited my post to say "Never mind this post I misread."

SsKSpurs21
06-27-2007, 11:55 AM
[QUOTE=Lebron23]

[B]10. Dirk Nowitzki

CakeorDeath
06-27-2007, 01:19 PM
The Mailman is simply the best low-post scoring power forward ever.

Yet some posters on this board repeatedly say that Malone was not that great in the low post, better in the mid-range.

:banghead:

News flash for those guys: Malone was phenomenal anywhere within 18 feet.

Loki
06-27-2007, 01:52 PM
The Mailman is simply the best low-post scoring power forward ever.

No, that would be Barkley. Malone may have been (and probably was) the better scorer overall, but strictly based on what each could do on the box, Barkley > Malone.

Rockets(T-mac)
06-27-2007, 01:59 PM
and stephen jackson/matt barnes. :D j/k mavs fans.

i do think dirk should be higher than buck williams...if not yet then he will be eventually. I also agree that he is a revolutionary. He is extending the PF position to the perimeter, almost making it similar to a SF. pretty soon there will be inside power forwards and perimeter power forwards. bargnani is another player who fits this mold along with mehmet okur.
Yeah I was think why Dirk was there than I realized that PF position is as good as the other position all time. Yeah Dirk did revolutionize the PF position with perimater game but the thing is he doens't have very much of a post game at all.

secund2nun
07-21-2013, 05:32 PM
Garnett is better than McHale and Pettit. He is up there with Duncan, Malone, Barkley and Dirk.

Legends66NBA7
07-21-2013, 05:37 PM
Garnett is better than McHale and Pettit. He is up there with Duncan, Malone, Barkley and Dirk.

Why would you bump a 6 year old thread based on article made 8 years ago ?

Obviously, things have changed a lot for Garnett since that time.

Mods, please lock thread.

CanYouDigIt
07-21-2013, 05:40 PM
Last post before lock :cheers:

secund2nun
07-21-2013, 05:43 PM
Why would you bump a 6 year old thread based on article made 8 years ago ?

Obviously, things have changed a lot for Garnett since that time.

Mods, please lock thread.

I swear this was on the front page lol. I had no idea it was so old I didnt search or go back at all. But yes lock

1987_Lakers
07-21-2013, 05:47 PM
Here is what the real list should look like in 5-10 years:

1.Duncan
2. Malone
3. Barkley
4. Amare Stoudemire
5. Garnett
6. Nowitzki
7. Mchale
8. Bosh
9. Brand
10. Webber
:oldlol:

kennethgriffin
07-21-2013, 06:14 PM
DeBusschere and williams are not top 40 players all time

dirk is top 25-30 all time

so how is dirk not ahead of them in PF rankings lol

bmulls
07-21-2013, 06:16 PM
DeBusschere and williams are not top 40 players all time

dirk is top 25-30 all time

so how is dirk not ahead of them in PF rankings lol

The post was made in 2007

Unbiased_one
07-21-2013, 06:50 PM
Pettit=most underrated player in nba history. Should be top 2 on PF list.

kenny817
07-21-2013, 07:26 PM
Here is what the real list should look like in 5-10 years:

1.Duncan
2. Malone
3. Barkley
4. Amare Stoudemire
5. Garnett
6. Nowitzki
7. Mchale
8. Bosh
9. Brand
10. Webber


:roll: :roll: :roll:






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wang4three
07-21-2013, 07:45 PM
Here is what the real list should look like in 5-10 years:

1.Duncan
2. Malone
3. Barkley
4. Amare Stoudemire
5. Garnett
6. Nowitzki
7. Mchale
8. Bosh
9. Brand
10. Webber

Amare, Bosh, and Brand would be lucky to hold Buck's jockstrap for all your bitching about him.

KG215
07-21-2013, 07:46 PM
DeBusschere and williams are not top 40 players all time

dirk is top 25-30 all time

so how is dirk not ahead of them in PF rankings lol
:facepalm

Thread was made in 2007 about an article written in 2005.

Round Mound
07-21-2013, 07:52 PM
Malone over Barkley :facepalm .

Clifton
07-21-2013, 07:59 PM
My list:

1. Duncan
2. Malone
3. KG
4. Barkley
5. Dirk

I've been watching footage of Barkley lately, and I gotta say, I'm not impressed. The guy seemed to have no control over himself, or the game, at all. The Russell Westbrook of forwards. Now Westbrook and Chuck are both great players, but when you have a guy like KG who can control a game and who really brings out great things in their teammates over the long haul, I consider that more important than energy and spark.

That said, I can't put Dirk over him. On defense, people will just walk all over him. Guards will go right into him and not think anything of it. Barkley's defensive prowess is shaky to me, but he could at least intimidate you.

Overall, though, it's no coincidence or accident to me that Barkley never won a title. He was a really flawed player.

Dro
07-21-2013, 08:47 PM
I opened the thread and I thought it was current up until I got to KG and it said he had played his whole career with the Wolves, lol. But anyway, Id put KG over Pettit, he should be at least top 5 and Id put Barkley at #2. He is the most talented out of the bunch, well maybe thats a tie between him and KG. I have no problem with Duncan at #1.

kenny817
07-21-2013, 09:48 PM
My list:

1. Duncan
2. Malone
3. KG
4. Barkley
5. Dirk

I've been watching footage of Barkley lately, and I gotta say, I'm not impressed. The guy seemed to have no control over himself, or the game, at all. The Russell Westbrook of forwards. Now Westbrook and Chuck are both great players, but when you have a guy like KG who can control a game and who really brings out great things in their teammates over the long haul, I consider that more important than energy and spark.

That said, I can't put Dirk over him. On defense, people will just walk all over him. Guards will go right into him and not think anything of it. Barkley's defensive prowess is shaky to me, but he could at least intimidate you.

Overall, though, it's no coincidence or accident to me that Barkley never won a title. He was a really flawed player.

Stopped reading here...because you're an idiot

Round Mound
07-22-2013, 01:54 AM
Stopped reading here...because you're an idiot

:applause: Sounds More Like Envy Cause...No Other PF Could Do What Charles Does. NOBODY EVER!