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3ball
09-21-2019, 04:45 AM
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- Dwight averaged 17/13 in 2018 (HOF)

- AD (HOF)

- Kuzma (20 ppg player)

- Avery Bradley (all-defense)

- Danny Green (all-defense)

- Rondo, Dudley, McGee (starter-quality bench players)


^^^ These are CLEARLY more decorated and higher level players than the Clippers - PG13, Harrell, Beverly, and Lou Williams do not compare to this bunch... :confusedshrug:

I hate to say it guys, but I see a repeat champion here... :facepalm... that's one of the most perfect rosters I've ever seen... with hungry players and anxious vets looking for redemption.. I've imagined that I'm in the future and looked back in hindsight - and I saw repeat champs and Dwight Howard crying and talking about god .. :facepalm... :confusedshrug:

This sucks... It's fake competition - "let's give Lebron so much help that he can't possibly lose" - that's the league strategy and everyone is in on it...

I'm going to retire again real soon - this time for good - I can't follow this colluded charade anymore... It's been real y'all.. And real fun

GreatHILL
09-21-2019, 05:19 AM
lmao

MrFonzworth
09-21-2019, 05:21 AM
OP crying once again. Imagine being this obsessed about anything.

Turbo Slayer
09-21-2019, 05:34 AM
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- Dwight averaged 17/13 in 2018 (HOF)

- AD (HOF)

- Kuzma (20 ppg player)

- Avery Bradley (all-defense)

- Danny Green (all-defense)

- Rondo, Dudley, McGee (starter-quality bench players)


^^^ These are CLEARLY more decorated and higher level players than the Clippers - PG13, Harrell, Beverly, and Lou Williams do not compare to this bunch... :confusedshrug:

I hate to say it guys, but I see a repeat champion here... :facepalm... that's one of the most perfect rosters I've ever seen... with hungry players and anxious vets looking for redemption.. I've imagined that I'm in the future and looked back in hindsight - and I saw repeat champs and Dwight Howard crying and talking about god .. :facepalm... :confusedshrug:

This sucks... It's fake competition - "let's give Lebron so much help that he can't possibly lose" - that's the league strategy and everyone is in on it...

I'm going to retire again real soon - this time for good - I can't follow this colluded charade anymore... It's been real y'all.. And real fun Legoat too much for u? :lebronamazed:

Manny98
09-21-2019, 08:55 AM
what a meltdown :lol

DaHeezy
09-21-2019, 09:01 AM
I'd like to go to a buffet with OP. Best cherry picker on ISH.

Shogon
09-21-2019, 09:37 AM
The season hasn't even started yet... and most of those guys are well past it, except AD, who clearly is still hovering around his peak and probably hasn't yet... and Kuzma... who has shown flashes but nothing consistent.

scuzzy
09-21-2019, 09:40 AM
Team is trash outside Lebron and AD


Arguably the worst bench in the league

sdot_thadon
09-21-2019, 09:45 AM
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Aww poor guy.:hammerhead:

egokiller
09-21-2019, 09:58 AM
How much help does this 6 time losing wannabe need? :oldlol: :facepalm

StrongLurk
09-21-2019, 01:27 PM
Lebron is already GOAT so why does OP even care at this point?

3ball
09-21-2019, 03:06 PM
Team is trash outside Lebron and AD


Lebron fans: "if he isn't a top 3 player in the league, he's a trash teammate for Lebron"

:rolleyes:


AD, Dwight, Bradley, and Green are 2 all-nba guys and 2 all-defenders - that's better than the clippers' nobodies/role players of Beverly, Harrell and Lou





Arguably the best bench in the league


Fixed

Turbo Slayer
09-21-2019, 03:25 PM
Bran 2 good.

3ball
09-21-2019, 03:30 PM
Bran 2 good.
No the media is too dumb overrating this guy - that's why I post on here - because fans and the media have it all wrong

And lebron was 28-27 last year (lottery) in games he played, and was among the league's worst defenders, so he was not good

His lottery season last year ruins any chance of him getting credit for the Lakers success this year - any success this year will be due to the roster changes, not lottery Lebron

LAmbruh
09-21-2019, 03:33 PM
Lebron is already GOAT
YES

HE

IS

:dancin :hammertime:

3ball
09-21-2019, 03:46 PM
Lebron is already GOAT


Weak troll

- he only won 3 rings in 17 years

- he averages less points with worse efficiency rating

- he has flaws on his resume (11' choke, record losses, 4-0 sweeps, losses as 1 seed)

- he has flaws in his skillset (weak shooter and FT shooter, only elite with a live dribble/ball-dominant, forces teammates to adjust to him/can't adjust to teammates; marginalized several teammates)


And don't tell me that teammates must adjust to Lebron - they can't because they aren't as good basketball players.. Most are role players with a narrow skillset - so it's the star's job as the best player to adjust to teammates, WHILE getting the same dominant stats.. Lebron doesn't do this, so he's inferior and wins less than Bird, Kobe, MJ, Duncan, etc






so why does OP even care at this point?


the media is too dumb and overrating this guy - that's why I post on here - because fans and the media have it all wrong

And lebron was 28-27 last year (lottery) in games he played, and was among the league's worst defenders, so he was not good

His lottery season last year ruins any chance of him getting credit for the Lakers success this year - any success this year will be due to the roster changes, not lottery Lebron

Vino24
09-21-2019, 03:56 PM
Lead everyone in everything in 2016 finals. Never been done. GOAT

SouBeachTalents
09-21-2019, 03:57 PM
You know OP is shook when he's up writing rants at 5 in the morning. LeBron literally keeps this dude up at night :oldlol:

Vino24
09-21-2019, 04:00 PM
You know OP is shook when he's up writing rants at 5 in the morning. LeBron literally keeps this dude up at night :oldlol:
LeBron will never know of the dedication :oldlol:

RRR3
09-21-2019, 04:07 PM
Dwight all-nba In 2019 lmaooooooo

3ball
09-21-2019, 04:17 PM
Dwight all-nba In 2019 lmaooooooo
Neither is Harrell, who is a role player

AD, Dwight, Green, Bradley > PG, Harrell, Lou, Beverly

It's obvious and Vegas knows it (Lakers are the league favorite), but somehow ESPN thinks the Clippers are better... Wonder why?? it's obviously a bullshit lebron media - fake news

RRR3
09-21-2019, 04:32 PM
Harrell is absolutely better than Dwight rn


3braincells

RRR3
09-21-2019, 04:36 PM
AD>George
Harrell>Dwight
Lou>Green
Beverly>Bradley




3braincells exposed

Smoke117
09-21-2019, 04:42 PM
When it comes to 3ball, you have to love how everyone who played with LeBron is 10 times better than they actually are/were and everyone who played with Jordan is 10 times worse than they actually were.

3ball
09-21-2019, 04:48 PM
AD>George
Harrell>Dwight
Lou>Green
Beverly>Bradley




3braincells exposed
Rondo is almost as good as Beverly, let alone Green

Heck, Lebron's team is so good that lebron isn't even the best player

Again, Vegas knows the Lakers have the best roster (Lakers are the league favorite), but somehow ESPN thinks the Clippers are better... Wonder why?? it's obviously a bullshit lebron media - fake news

RRR3
09-21-2019, 04:50 PM
Rondo is almost as good as Beverly, let alone Green

Heck, Lebron's team is so good that lebron isn't even the best player

Again, Vegas knows the Lakers have the best roster (Lakers are the league favorite), but somehow ESPN thinks the Clippers are better... Wonder why?? it's obviously a bullshit lebron media - fake news
:roll: :roll: :roll:

AlternativeAcc.
09-21-2019, 04:55 PM
Why couldn't the Lakers or AD win any games without LeBron

sdot_thadon
09-21-2019, 04:55 PM
And lebron was 28-27 last year (lottery) in games he played, and was among the league's worst defenders, so he was not good

His lottery season last year ruins any chance of him getting credit for the Lakers success this year - any success this year will be due to the roster changes, not lottery Lebron
And this is what keeps you up at night? An all-time great getting credit for a season that won't even begin for a month? :oldlol:

I guess by your criteria we also shouldn't credit Mj for the 96 season and really credit roster changes because all Mj did the previous run was sneak in at the end of it and choke.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
09-21-2019, 04:56 PM
3ball aka parody account just cannot help himself

:lol

Trolling probably gives him a sense of worth.

sdot_thadon
09-21-2019, 04:57 PM
3ball aka parody account just cannot help himself

:lol

Trolling probably gives him a sense of worth.
or his monthly med supply....:oldlol:

3ball
09-21-2019, 05:00 PM
Why couldn't the Lakers or AD win any games without LeBron
The Lakers were lottery WITH lebron, while AD made the 2nd Round in 2018

And AD won a game off the Warriors, whilst Lebron was swept by record amount

Turbo Slayer
09-21-2019, 05:00 PM
3ball aka parody account just cannot help himself

:lol

Trolling probably gives him a sense of worth.

:yaohappy: :roll:

Turbo Slayer
09-21-2019, 05:02 PM
Lead everyone in everything in 2016 finals. Never been done. GOAT
Yep top5 alltime cemented.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
09-21-2019, 05:03 PM
or his monthly med supply....:oldlol:

To get shitted on daily and return to post the same crazy rhetoric...is pure insanity. What's it been? 5 years now?

3bot gives "wheels" a run for his money. I'll give him that much.

Turbo Slayer
09-21-2019, 05:04 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

''almost'' 3ball you have me dying i thought you on mj sides?

Manny98
09-21-2019, 05:05 PM
The Lakers were lottery WITH lebron, while AD made the 2nd Round in 2018

And AD won a game off the Warriors, whilst Lebron was swept by record amount
Hakeem took the 86 Celtics to 6 games, whilst MJ on the other hand got swept

Hakeem > MJ

Turbo Slayer
09-21-2019, 05:07 PM
To get shitted on and return to post the same crazy rhetoric...is pure insanity. What's it been? 5 years now?

3bot gives "wheels" a run for his money. I'll give him that much. Yep.

Dude is so obseesed with Lebron. He prolly think that Lebron is a nobody.

Turbo Slayer
09-21-2019, 05:14 PM
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StrongLurk
09-21-2019, 08:31 PM
Weak troll

- he only won 3 rings in 17 years

- he averages less points with worse efficiency rating

- he has flaws on his resume (11' choke, record losses, 4-0 sweeps, losses as 1 seed)

- he has flaws in his skillset (weak shooter and FT shooter, only elite with a live dribble/ball-dominant, forces teammates to adjust to him/can't adjust to teammates; marginalized several teammates)


And don't tell me that teammates must adjust to Lebron - they can't because they aren't as good basketball players.. Most are role players with a narrow skillset - so it's the star's job as the best player to adjust to teammates, WHILE getting the same dominant stats.. Lebron doesn't do this, so he's inferior and wins less than Bird, Kobe, MJ, Duncan, etc




the media is too dumb and overrating this guy - that's why I post on here - because fans and the media have it all wrong

And lebron was 28-27 last year (lottery) in games he played, and was among the league's worst defenders, so he was not good

His lottery season last year ruins any chance of him getting credit for the Lakers success this year - any success this year will be due to the roster changes, not lottery Lebron

I can tell you are upset that you aren't changing anybody's mind.

305Baller
09-21-2019, 09:14 PM
no excuses. if he fails he is the worst choker in ba history.

again.


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

3ball
09-22-2019, 04:58 PM
I can tell you are upset that you aren't changing anybody's mind.
MJ is already the goat in most people's minds, so I'm not trying to convince anyone - I'm just rubbing it in to people like you.. it's fun

90sgoat
09-22-2019, 06:09 PM
These Lakers are the strongest supporting cast I've seen since the Heatles.

egokiller
09-22-2019, 06:38 PM
MJ is already the goat in most people's minds, so I'm not trying to convince anyone - I'm just rubbing it in to people like you.. it's fun

3ball, I

sdot_thadon
09-22-2019, 06:42 PM
1st I was like


MJ is already the goat in most people's minds, so I'm not trying to convince anyone - I'm just rubbing it in to people like you.. it's fun

now I'm like

that's why I post on here - because fans and the media have it all wrong


:yaohappy:

3ball
09-22-2019, 07:02 PM
1st I was like



now I'm like


:yaohappy:
Yes I rub it in how wrong they are

Making fun of the few poor souls that think they're watching top quality basketball... :yaohappy:

Look at the international game - our 3rd rate guys like Kemba, Tatum, etc are still way more talented than any other country, yet we weren't even a top 5 team this year - that's how much the Americans' brand of ball has devolved..

we need to pull a Lebron and stack the deck with enough talent to overcome our inferior brand of ball.... It's sad .. :facepalm

See I'm rubbing it in again... :oldlol:... Rubbing in how wrong y'all are

sdot_thadon
09-22-2019, 07:44 PM
Yes I rub it in how wrong they are

Making fun of the few poor souls that think they're watching top quality basketball... :yaohappy:

Look at the international game - our 3rd rate guys like Kemba, Tatum, etc are still way more talented than any other country, yet we weren't even a top 5 team this year - that's how much the Americans' brand of ball has devolved..

we need to pull a Lebron and stack the deck with enough talent to overcome our inferior brand of ball.... It's sad .. :facepalm

See I'm rubbing it in again... :oldlol:... Rubbing in how wrong y'all are
delusion is a hell of a drug, that said I quoted you to highlight your hypocrisy....no one here really gives a shit what you think but we all enjoy ruining your threads.

3ball
09-22-2019, 08:00 PM
delusion is a hell of a drug, that said I quoted you to highlight your hypocrisy....no one here really gives a shit what you think but we all enjoy ruining your threads.
Actually, I typically post about a weaknesses of Lebron's skillset or career.....

And then you guys come in and play straight defense all day... Defending Lebron - never going on offense because you can't - MJ has no weaknesses and I point out legit flaws for lebron, so ur forced to play defense

Rinse repeat in the next thread... Better get those gloves up! .. :yaohappy:.. I quite enjoy pummeling you guys

RRR3
09-22-2019, 08:13 PM
MJ had no weaknesses?

I suppose 3PT shooting doesn’t count now

And1AllDay
09-22-2019, 08:28 PM
Lets compare year 17 stats for mike jordan and lebron and see if he can measure up



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Oh wait

And1AllDay
09-22-2019, 08:29 PM
[QUOTE=RRR3]MJ had no weaknesses?

I suppose 3PT shooting doesn

Turbo Slayer
09-22-2019, 09:50 PM
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^^^



I'm going to retire again real soon - this time for good - I can't follow this colluded charade anymore... It's been real y'all.. And real fun

3ball, i thought youre gonna retire. BUT STILLLL youre still posting.

What gives? :confusedshrug:

3ball
09-22-2019, 10:23 PM
3ball, i thought youre gonna retire. BUT STILLLL youre still posting.

What gives? :confusedshrug:
I said real soon, definitely before the preseason starts

But I have to do a Lebron jumpshooting stats thread where I post Lebron's jumpshooting stats from some of his biggest series

.and I have to redo my "the stats show many weaknesses in Lebron's game" thread that Kblaze deleted because it was too potent... :facepalm ...OMG it was murder

I basically point out the many statistical flaws that he has - i.e. the stats show lebron doesn't shoot well from mid-range or FT... and doesn't dominate the post... and is turnover-prone (basically no playoff runs without 3+ TO)... And a zillion more nuanced stats like his double-team percentage, his team's low assist rankings, teammate's assists cratering alongside him while their assisted rate increases (turns teammates into basic play-finishers/spot-up shooters)

And so much more - it was all stats so there was no bias - way too potent so kblaze had to delete

sdot_thadon
09-22-2019, 10:44 PM
Actually, I typically post about a weaknesses of Lebron's skillset or career.....

And then you guys come in and play straight defense all day... Defending Lebron - never going on offense because you can't - MJ has no weaknesses and I point out legit flaws for lebron, so ur forced to play defense

Rinse repeat in the next thread... Better get those gloves up! .. :yaohappy:.. I quite enjoy pummeling you guys
Typically, better yet PREDICTABLY you post a topic obsessing over some aspect of Lebron that you insecurely exaggerate to the gills and post purposely fudged stats about. This always somehow relates to your devotion to Mj and how it burns your soul to see Lebron compared to him regularly now. You then proceed to get your ass handed to you in pretty much every single thread and somehow how walk away thinking you won the debate. Kinda remind me of this guy.......


https://i.postimg.cc/PrWX9Bx3/Gotta-love-wimp-lo-294d1a1c982bb700bbc929db0af597cd.gif (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/NfcY6p41/images.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

:biggums:

3ball
09-22-2019, 11:00 PM
Typically, better yet PREDICTABLY you post a topic obsessing over some aspect of Lebron that you insecurely exaggerate to the gills and post purposely fudged stats about. This always somehow relates to your devotion to Mj and how it burns your soul to see Lebron compared to him regularly now. You then proceed to get your ass handed to you in pretty much every single thread and somehow how walk away thinking you won the debate. Kinda remind me of this guy.......


https://i.postimg.cc/PrWX9Bx3/Gotta-love-wimp-lo-294d1a1c982bb700bbc929db0af597cd.gif (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/NfcY6p41/images.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

:biggums:
I link my stats and have never lied about stats

You simply can't refute what the stats say so you claim I'm lying without ever specifying what I'm lying about

You're passive aggressive fools that don't engage in debate - but I guess it's my fault for posting things that aren't refutable...

Like how the best help MJ lost with is 19 on 41% from Pippen in the 95' ECSF, or woolridge's 20 on 50% in the 85' 1st round - now if we compare this to the best help Lebron lost with, we see a substantial gap indicating that MJ is the better player by this measure..

you guys will have rebuttals and that's fine, but the point is that there's hundreds of stats and ways that make MJ look better, while Lebron lacks these clear-cut examples and needs convoluted logic and projecting to make him look anywhere near MJ

I'll be making a thread about all the statistical flaws in Lebron's game and there's plenty - hopefully it won't get deleted like last time

AirBonner
09-22-2019, 11:03 PM
I link my stats and have never lied about stats

You simply can't refute what the stats say so you claim I'm lying without ever specifying what I'm lying about

You're passive aggressive fools that don't engage in debate - but I guess it's my fault for posting things that aren't refutable...

Like how the best help MJ lost with is 19 on 41% from Pippen in the 95' ECSF, or woolridge's 20 on 50% in the 85' 1st round - now if we compare this to the best help Lebron lost with, we see a substantial gap indicating that MJ is the better player by this measure..

you guys will have rebuttals and that's fine, but the point is that there's hundreds of stats and ways that make MJ look better, while Lebron lacks these clear-cut examples and needs convoluted logic and projecting to make him look anywhere near MJ

I'll be making a thread about all the statistical flaws in Lebron's game and there's plenty - hopefully it won't get deleted like last time
:roll:

sdot_thadon
09-22-2019, 11:29 PM
I link my stats and have never lied about stats

You simply can't refute what the stats say so you claim I'm lying without ever specifying what I'm lying about

You're passive aggressive fools that don't engage in debate - but I guess it's my fault for posting things that aren't refutable...

Like how the best help MJ lost with is 19 on 41% from Pippen in the 95' ECSF, or woolridge's 20 on 50% in the 85' 1st round - now if we compare this to the best help Lebron lost with, we see a substantial gap indicating that MJ is the better player by this measure..

you guys will have rebuttals and that's fine, but the point is that there's hundreds of stats and ways that make MJ look better, while Lebron lacks these clear-cut examples and needs convoluted logic and projecting to make him look anywhere near MJ

I'll be making a thread about all the statistical flaws in Lebron's game and there's plenty - hopefully it won't get deleted like last time
Dude, cut the shit. Posting inaccurate stats is just part of the reason you got banned in other places. You either outright post wrong numbers or you round up .5 for one guy amd round down .7 for another. The only reason you aren't exposed more here is nobody gives a damn enough to fact check you.....and when they do.........slaughter. The real reason people barely participate in the actual meat of your threads is not because you submit some perfect argument. It's because you submit any argument, even good ones in such an idiotic fashion that no one really takes your topics seriously. Even Jordan fans abandon you, shits stale. You desperately need some new material.

3ball
09-23-2019, 12:06 AM
Dude, cut the shit. Posting inaccurate stats is just part of the reason you got banned in other places. You either outright post wrong numbers or you round up .5 for one guy amd round down .7 for another. The only reason you aren't exposed more here is nobody gives a damn enough to fact check you.....and when they do.........slaughter. The real reason people barely participate in the actual meat of your threads is not because you submit some perfect argument. It's because you submit any argument, even good ones in such an idiotic fashion that no one really takes your topics seriously. Even Jordan fans abandon you, shits stale. You desperately need some new material.
You're lying about the inaccurate stats - it's a good tactic though in these kinds of online pissing contests - I give you props for the lie and the tactic.. it's hard to argue against and good hearsay

But with these kinds of bitchmade tactics, I suspect you don't have successful relationships with the opposite sex much

Ultimately, the reason you claim I'm lying about the stats is because if I wasn't, you guys would be dead wrong - your claim that I'm lying means that the arguments are sound - so you need the numbers to be wrong

that's okay because when I post the "Lebron's statistical flaws" thread, I will link every stat and post it virtually everywhere... Everyone will be aware of Lebron's statistical flaws, and there's an absolute shit ton.. the guy is a super-flawed ballplayer and the stats show it beautifully

And I don't worry about what other posters say or think - I just put the facts out there so they're out there - then I wait for people to catch up if they need to.. I remember when I first started posting about how Lebron is ball-dominant - many posters refuted it... They absolutely HATED the point I was ultimately making... Ultimately, I had to dig up time of possession stats to prove my case.... but now it's common knowledge... Everyone knows that Lebron dominates the ball more than most PG's, and they understand on some level how this skillset impacts the game

egokiller
09-23-2019, 12:19 AM
[QUOTE=RRR3]MJ had no weaknesses?

I suppose 3PT shooting doesn

Ainosterhaspie
09-23-2019, 12:28 AM
[QUOTE=egokiller]How did MJ set a record for most 3

egokiller
09-23-2019, 12:31 AM
How did Klay Thompson set the record for the most points in a quarter if he's not the greatest scorer ever?

No one said Klay

sdot_thadon
09-23-2019, 08:19 AM
You're lying about the inaccurate stats - it's a good tactic though in these kinds of online pissing contests - I give you props for the lie and the tactic.. it's hard to argue against and good hearsay

But with these kinds of bitchmade tactics, I suspect you don't have successful relationships with the opposite sex much

Ultimately, the reason you claim I'm lying about the stats is because if I wasn't, you guys would be dead wrong - your claim that I'm lying means that the arguments are sound - so you need the numbers to be wrong

that's okay because when I post the "Lebron's statistical flaws" thread, I will link every stat and post it virtually everywhere... Everyone will be aware of Lebron's statistical flaws, and there's an absolute shit ton.. the guy is a super-flawed ballplayer and the stats show it beautifully

And I don't worry about what other posters say or think - I just put the facts out there so they're out there - then I wait for people to catch up if they need to.. I remember when I first started posting about how Lebron is ball-dominant - many posters refuted it... They absolutely HATED the point I was ultimately making... Ultimately, I had to dig up time of possession stats to prove my case.... but now it's common knowledge... Everyone knows that Lebron dominates the ball more than most PG's, and they understand on some level how this skillset impacts the game
So much, delusion, so much projection, so much you mad.:oldlol:

You do know all the threads and posts where your stats are called into question are still available right bro? You can't be this thick. Like I said you know you make trash threads whenever fellow Mj stans frown upon your petulance. You're played out bro, washed up, whatever you want to call it. You run the same plays so many times that everyone knows your playbook and you get embarrassed even by high school kids who are new fans. So any time someone who knows their head from their ass decides to give a minute to reply? You get annihilated. Talk about something else for a while, broaden your horizons.

And quit getting mad, post the right numbers ya bum.

Ainosterhaspie
09-23-2019, 09:49 AM
No one said Klay’s weakness was scoring.

What was said is that 3 point shooting is a weakness of MJ.

Nice try.
You used an isolated stat from part of one game to prove a point. So did I. By your logic MJ is a great three point shooter because of that one game. By the same logic, Thompson is the greatest scorer ever because of that one game.

Wally450
09-23-2019, 11:40 AM
Damn, another LeBron thread from 3ball? What's the count up to now?

3ball
09-23-2019, 01:19 PM
Damn, another LeBron thread from 3ball? What's the count up to now?
It's a prophecy brah

If this Laker team somehow doesn't win, I'll be shocked... Lebron frieking James as possibly the #2 option???? Staaaaaaacked

Turbo Slayer
09-23-2019, 06:44 PM
It's a prophecy brah

If this Laker team somehow doesn't win, I'll be shocked... Lebron frieking James as possibly the #2 option???? Staaaaaaacked
You always be beta for not recognizing LeBron's greatness. At least notice it 3ball. :lol

Turbo Slayer
09-23-2019, 06:54 PM
It's a prophecy brah

If this Laker team somehow doesn't win, I'll be shocked... Lebron frieking James as possibly the #2 option???? Staaaaaaacked
You made around 22, 000 threads about LeBron. Not surprised.

And1AllDay
09-23-2019, 07:32 PM
I link my stats and have never lied about stats

You simply can't refute what the stats say so you claim I'm lying without ever specifying what I'm lying about

You're passive aggressive fools that don't engage in debate - but I guess it's my fault for posting things that aren't refutable...

Like how the best help MJ lost with is 19 on 41% from Pippen in the 95' ECSF, or woolridge's 20 on 50% in the 85' 1st round - now if we compare this to the best help Lebron lost with, we see a substantial gap indicating that MJ is the better player by this measure..

you guys will have rebuttals and that's fine, but the point is that there's hundreds of stats and ways that make MJ look better, while Lebron lacks these clear-cut examples and needs convoluted logic and projecting to make him look anywhere near MJ

I'll be making a thread about all the statistical flaws in Lebron's game and there's plenty - hopefully it won't get deleted like last time

:oldlol:

theres a reason your banned at all other nba sites

your a lying troll point blank

Turbo Slayer
09-23-2019, 07:34 PM
:oldlol:

theres a reason your banned at all other nba sites

your a lying troll point blank
It is true that 3ball is banned at other sites?

RealSkipBayless
09-23-2019, 07:36 PM
It is true that 3ball is banned at other sites?
Legend says he was banned within 3 posts on RealGM.

Turbo Slayer
09-23-2019, 07:44 PM
Legend says he was banned within 3 posts on RealGM.
:roll:

And1AllDay
09-23-2019, 07:45 PM
Legend says he was banned within 3 posts on RealGM.


big facts :roll: :roll: :roll:

3ball
09-23-2019, 08:03 PM
:oldlol:

theres a reason your banned at all other nba sites

your a lying troll point blank
I've never purposefully posted erroneous stats (lied) - 99.9% of what I've posted at best has rounding errors, which everyone has ... Only once did I accidentally post some ORtg stats that were actually DRtg stats, and someone pointed out the error.. but it was an accident

Regarding other sites banning me for erroneous stats - that's a flat out lie - I was banned for knocking lebron in an overly 1-sided fashion... which is a dumb reason to get banned - if the thread is about Lebron's weaknesses, then the OP is supposed to be 1-sided...

And when I posted on realgm - I linked the stats (https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1412611) - so they couldn't be inaccurate

The reality is that you can't knock Lebron on other sites.. I personally believe that Lebron and Clutch Sports have their hand DEEP into social media (they probably know the owners of realgm and/or have ownership stake or sponsor relationships with all these sites.. ultimately, they have some measure of control over these message boards and obviously, they have some control over the mainstream media too (significant influence)

But this is your latest thing against me (saying I make up stats) because it's all you have - my arguments are sound, so you claim I'm lying about the stats.... Which stats though? - you won't specify because it's just a ploy to avoid admitting defeat in the argument

Turbo Slayer
09-23-2019, 08:23 PM
I've never purposefully posted erroneous stats (lied) - 99.9% of what I've posted at best has rounding errors, which everyone has ... Only once did I accidentally post some ORtg stats that were actually DRtg stats, and someone pointed out the error.. but it was an accident

Regarding other sites banning me for erroneous stats - that's a flat out lie - I was banned for knocking lebron in an overly 1-sided fashion... which is a dumb reason to get banned - if the thread is about Lebron's weaknesses, then the OP is supposed to be 1-sided...

And when I posted on realgm - I linked the stats (https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1412611) - so they couldn't be inaccurate

The reality is that you can't knock Lebron on other sites.. I personally believe that Lebron and Clutch Sports have their hand DEEP into social media (they probably know the owners of realgm and/or have ownership stake or sponsor relationships with all these sites.. ultimately, they have some measure of control over these message boards and obviously, they have some control over the mainstream media too (significant influence)

But this is your latest thing against me (saying I make up stats) because it's all you have - my arguments are sound, so you claim I'm lying about the stats.... Which stats though? - you won't specify because it's just a ploy to avoid admitting defeat in the argument :rolleyes: :cry:

sdot_thadon
09-23-2019, 08:48 PM
It is true that 3ball is banned at other sites?
The sad part is not the if, but the how many times and how many sites. :oldlol:

Turbo Slayer
09-23-2019, 08:49 PM
The sad part is not the if, but the how many times and how many sites. :oldlol: :oldlol:

3ball
09-23-2019, 09:02 PM
:rolleyes: :cry:
I know... :facepalm ... These sites are ****ed up... :cheers:

You saw my realgm post - nothing was ban worthy in that OP or thread, but I got banned in that thread!

Turbo Slayer
09-23-2019, 09:11 PM
I know... :facepalm ... These sites are ****ed up... :cheers:

You saw my realgm post - nothing was ban worthy in that OP or thread, but I got banned in that thread!

Poor 1ball always getting banned. ISH we need to throw a party for 3ball. Come to Off the Lounge thread for moments were never forget. Everyone is invited to this fantastic party. We need to cheer 3ball up!

:lol :rolleyes:

Turbo Slayer
09-23-2019, 09:16 PM
Shameless plug but come to my thread about making a party for our ruler, 3ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol

Its in Off the Lounge.

sdot_thadon
09-23-2019, 09:24 PM
I know... :facepalm ... These sites are ****ed up... :cheers:

You saw my realgm post - nothing was ban worthy in that OP or thread, but I got banned in that thread!
Im pretty sure you got banned straight off recognition and being previously banned how many times? You're pretty much ban on sight there, good job.:applause:

3ball
09-23-2019, 09:56 PM
Im pretty sure you got banned straight off recognition and being previously banned how many times? You're pretty much ban on sight there, good job.:applause:
It wasn't recognition from before because the subsequent comments were of confusion that they didn't know who I was....

Ultimately, my post bashed Lebron with statistical proof, and they just weren't having it interrupt their groupthink

I posted about how lebron lowers everyone's assists and therefore has low assist teams that loses to better ball movement/higher team assists in the championship, but the mod wouldn't even address it

He just responded with his learned groupthink "the ball should always be in the best player's hands" bullshit... :facepalm

And I was promptly banned.. didn't give me a chance to blow a hole in his groupthink, although the OP already did

RRR3
09-23-2019, 09:58 PM
They clearly recognized you.

You can’t understand sarcasm apparently.

Ainosterhaspie
09-23-2019, 10:04 PM
Im pretty sure you got banned straight off recognition and being previously banned how many times? You're pretty much ban on sight there, good job.:applause:
Correct. He was immediately recognized for who he was. The first posting he did on that account was to open up three different threads within four minutes of each other each an attack on Lebron in one way or another. These threads didn't have original material they were cut and paste jobs from here which were immediately recognized by people who use both sites. In one of the threads that he didn't link here someone even specifically calls him out by name "3ball". It is clear from what the mods wrote in that thread that they knew exactly who he was, and that they had already banned him. So he wasn't banned for what he wrote in that thread. He was banned for whatever conduct he had engaged in previously, and because he had no subtlety to avoid being immediately recognized.

3ball, you don't get banned at other sites because you're critical of LeBron. There are plenty of posters at those sites sights who critique LeBron. Your problem is that you do it in a very intellectually dishonest manner. You constantly spam cut and pasted arguments, you have no internal logical consistency, and you constantly jump from one at bad idea to the next whenever someone discredits an argument you are making. It's impossible to have any sort of progressive dialogue with you because you never recognize or abandon your bad arguments. They just keep coming back over and over and over and over again like a bad zombie movie.

3ball
09-23-2019, 10:06 PM
They clearly recognized you.

You can’t understand sarcasm apparently.
What difference does it make - all my posts are the same style - linked stats, always showing evidence (usually statistical) and plenty of serious rationale

Ultimately, my posts bash Lebron better than most, and they just weren't having that kind of poster interrupt their groupthink about lebron

3ball
09-23-2019, 10:45 PM
Correct. He was immediately recognized for who he was. The first posting he did on that account was to open up three different threads within four minutes of each other each an attack on Lebron in one way or another. These threads didn't have original material they were cut and paste jobs from here which were immediately recognized by people who use both sites. In one of the threads that he didn't link here someone even specifically calls him out by name "3ball". It is clear from what the mods wrote in that thread that they knew exactly who he was, and that they had already banned him. So he wasn't banned for what he wrote in that thread. He was banned for whatever conduct he had engaged in previously, and because he had no subtlety to avoid being immediately recognized.

3ball, you don't get banned at other sites because you're critical of LeBron. There are plenty of posters at those sites sights who critique LeBron. Your problem is that you do it in a very intellectually dishonest manner. You constantly spam cut and pasted arguments, you have no internal logical consistency, and you constantly jump from one at bad idea to the next whenever someone discredits an argument you are making. It's impossible to have any sort of progressive dialogue with you because you never recognize or abandon your bad arguments. They just keep coming back over and over and over and over again like a bad zombie movie.


^^^ The bolded is nonsense... I never abandon arguments - I keep responding to a poster's point until they realize they're wrong or simply give up

Ultimately, I have very few bad arguments about lebron, because they're all based on stats

The time of possession argument is a stat - so it's not really an argument - if you have 2 players on the floor with a PG-level time of possession (lebron and the actual PG, i.e. Kyrie, Chalmers, Mo), then the remaining 3 players have less time with the rock and assists then they'd have in normal 1-PG lineups... Lower teammate assists results in low TEAM assists and a low ball movement brand that gets massively out-assisted in the championship...

These are all STATS - indeed, Lebron's abnormal ball-time DOES give teammates less time and assists, which results in low team assists and getting massively out-assisted in the championship - all stats... Irrefutable... Come back at me on this argument - let's see if I "abandon it"... :kobe:
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sdot_thadon
09-23-2019, 11:06 PM
This looks alot like stage 1: denial

3ball
09-23-2019, 11:26 PM
This looks alot like stage 1: denial
Time of possession is a stat, not an "argument" - if you have 2 players on the floor with a PG-level time of possession (lebron and the actual PG, i.e. Kyrie, Chalmers, Mo), then the remaining 3 players have less time with the rock and assists then they'd have in normal 1-PG lineups... Lower teammate assists results in low TEAM assists and a low ball movement brand that gets massively out-assisted in the championship...

These are all STATS - indeed, Lebron's abnormal ball-time does give teammates less time and assists, which results in low team assists and getting massively out-assisted in the championship - all stats... That's why he's 3/9... It's a 3/9 brand of ball

Ainosterhaspie
09-23-2019, 11:41 PM
This looks alot like stage 1: denial
Uh uh because of time of possession, ball dominant style, doesn't draw double teams...

Turbo Slayer
09-24-2019, 07:46 AM
Uh uh because of time of possession, ball dominant style, doesn't draw double teams...
:applause:

3ball
09-24-2019, 02:56 PM
Uh uh because of time of possession, ball dominant style, doesn't draw double teams...
No, Lebron doesn't draw doubles because he isn't an aggressive scorer that will punish single-coverage sufficiently (according to SVG), nor is he a threat to get a hot jumper, so there's no urgency to get the ball out of his hands (teams meet drivers at the rim with multiple defenders and therefore only need to double hot jumpshooters, i.e. Curry, MJ, Kobe... Lebron's lack of jumper is partly why he isn't aggressive enough or doesn't sufficiently punish single coverage like SVG said)

But carry on in ignorance gents.. you're lebron fans

Turbo Slayer
09-24-2019, 02:59 PM
No, Lebron doesn't draw doubles because he isn't an aggressive scorer that will punish single-coverage sufficiently (according to SVG), nor is he a threat to get a hot jumper, so there's no urgency to get the ball out of his hands (teams meet drivers at the rim with multiple defenders and therefore only need to double hot jumpshooters, i.e. Curry, MJ, Kobe... Lebron's lack of jumper is partly why he isn't aggressive enough or doesn't sufficiently punish single coverage like SVG said)

But carry on in ignorance gents.. you're lebron fans
2012-13 LeBron but nope 3ball just gonna ignore it. Beta. :lol

3ball
09-24-2019, 03:23 PM
2012-13 LeBron but nope 3ball just gonna ignore it. Beta. :lol
He drew doubles in 2013?

Good for him - his jumper was actually semi-wet that particular year - so it wouldn't surprise me if he commanded some doubles to prevent a 3 or 4 jumpshot barrage/hot streak that boosts his team..

Again, good for him.... :applause:

But what you guys miss is that it only takes a couple instances where a player chokes or decides not to take the big shot to be labeled a choker without killer instinct.... Similarly, it only takes a couple instances where a coach is successful playing Lebron straight-up for that strategy to be strong consideration for all opposing coaches going forward... Opponents are always like "should we not double lebron like SVG and Kerr succeeded doing??"...

So there's just more ways to beat Lebron and playing him straight-up (shutting down teammates) is one of those ways - a tried and true method.. Now if he was ultra-aggressive with a jumper that could get hot like Curry, MJ, or Kobe, then this wouldn't be an issue
.

Turbo Slayer
09-24-2019, 03:46 PM
But what you guys miss is that it only takes a couple instances where a player chokes or decides not to take the big shot to be labeled a choker without killer instinct.... "...


. Respond to this 3ball. Lebron has the most buzzer-beaters in NBA history and yet you have the guts to say hes not clutch??? 7 game winners.
4 more than MJ. Beta.

3ball
09-24-2019, 04:41 PM
you have the guts to say hes not clutch???


I never said he wasn't clutch - he's clutch, but he also has the choker label from various choking instances, and many instances of deferring to stiffs in the clutch

So he has both clutch and choker labels at this point in his career - history shows that he's capable of either... :confusedshrug:





Lebron has the most buzzer-beaters in NBA history


Due to more games played - MJ's frequency of game-winners is higher, and he has numerous in the championship, while Lebron has none

Like, wouldn't it be nice to post a legendary game-winner by Lebron in the Finals to shut me the f uck up right now?

Wouldn't it be sick to post a gif of Lebron rising up on Curry for that Game 1 winner in 2018, to cap a 53-point goat performance, a case for greatest game ever played?

Alas.... :facepalm ... Lebron just isn't on that goat level like MJ was.. only MJ has multiple moments like that in the championship

Turbo Slayer
09-24-2019, 04:56 PM
UPDATE: Akratozile is BACKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!

HE HAVE RETURNED!!! :eek:

:banana: :dancin :hammertime: