Duncan showed us what a modern player would do in the 90

[Vino24]

Win instantly.

[Elosha]

Win instantly.

Yes, amazing how he could win right after Jordan retired and the Jazz and Houston became decrepit. He's a great player but why make such an idiotic thread.
:facepalm :rolleyes:

[Real14]

Reported for stupidity.

[AirBonner]

Agree. The big fundamental put the spurs on his back and took what Robinson couldn

[3ball]

Win instantly.
Except he didn't win instantly

Nor is Duncan a "modern player"

He's completely old school in every way and proved that an old-school big man could sweep today's best player, and then beat his Big 4 HOF's by record amount in 14'

Duncan is an example of how the previous era skillset (fundamentals, post game, triple-threat, mid-range) was superior to today's ball-domination/PNR skillset

[SouBeachTalents]

Except he didn't win instantly

Not is Duncan a "modern player"

He's completely old school in every way and proved that an old-school big man could sweep today's goat, and then beat his Big 4 HOF's by record amount in 14'

Duncan is an example of how the previous era skillset was superior (fundamentals, post game, triple-threat, mid-range)
Of course you'll use absolutely zero context about the '07 series, one he wasn't even FMVP for and fail to acknowledge how he was also part of a Big 4 of HOF's in '14 with Parker/Manu/Kawhi. Clown :lol

[Vino24]

Of course you'll use absolutely zero context about the '07 series, one he wasn't even FMVP for and fail to acknowledge how he was also part of a Big 4 of HOF's in '14 with Parker/Manu/Kawhi. Clown :lol
Got em

[3ball]

Of course you'll use absolutely zero context about the '07 series,


You can't say "there's nothing Lebron could've done" when he puts up 22 on 36%

Regardless, the point is that MJ never had a series where it was clear he could've done more - he never played anywhere near that bad


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[Bawkish]

[QUOTE=AirBonner]Agree. The big fundamental put the spurs on his back and took what Robinson couldn

[ImKobe]

Of course you'll use absolutely zero context about the '07 series, one he wasn't even FMVP for and fail to acknowledge how he was also part of a Big 4 of HOF's in '14 with Parker/Manu/Kawhi. Clown :lol

He was by far the best player on his team for the title run, the Finals were so one-sided that he didn't need to dominate the stat sheet to win, he did enough defensively and still averaged 18/12/4/1/2. Led the team in rebounds, assists, steals and blocks. He didn't win the award because I guess the media found Parker's scoring exciting in a rather boring series.

[Bigsmoke]

Kawhi won FMVP at 22 years old lol

[Real Men Wear Green]

Do you people have any idea why he was nicknamed the Big Fundamental? He didn't retire so long ago that you can just lie about how he played and no one will notice. Next time bullshit about Bob Pettitt or someone like that whose whole career half of us wouldn't be able to remember.

[Mr Feeny]

38 year old Duncan beat prime Lebron by what was the biggest margin of victory in finals history. I guess it shows what a weak era of basketball that was:lol

[SomeBlackDude]

da fuq? :wtf:

timmy was the prototypical classic big man. post up/mid range/block shots. dude shot 168 3s in his 19 year career (17.9% fg). for comparison, brook lopez- an actual modern style big, took 512 3s just last season alone.

if anything, the big fundamental showed how dominant old school basketball would be in the modern era. dude was one miracle shot from jesus himself from being 3-0 vs lechosen one in the finals... like a decade past his prime.

[Phoenix]

He showed that he could instantly win in a lockout shortened season, with most of the 80s/90s stars well on the decline, and before the Shaq/Kobe Lakers peaked. Duncan was legit from the moment he came into the league, skilled and polished beyond his years, but alot of things had to fall in place for his first title so him winning that year isn't empirical evidence of this extremely dumb OP hot take. 2003 onwards, absolutely.

[TheMan]

You can't say "there's nothing Lebron could've done" when he puts up 22 on 36%

Regardless, the point is that MJ never had a series where it was clear he could've done more - he never played anywhere near that bad



And so was Lebron - it was an even matchup, yet Lebron lost by record amount... :facepalm

.... while a 12 ppg role player had a coming out party on him (kawhi averaged 24 on 70% for the last 3 games)

But I'm not supposed to knock Lebron compared to MJ??... Wow, today's world is f.ucking SOFT and can't accept reality.... Everything is an excuse for what they want to believe.. there's no truth anymore... everything is like Rodney King now - that shit was a preview of today's thinking

A guy can give up 4 FMVP's to his man, average 22 on 36%, lose to 3 different Finals opponents, lose a 2-1 lead as the 1-seeded favorite, reduce all-nba players to spot-up shooting roles, team-hop every few years to play with the hottest young studs in the league, go 0-8 on clutch shots in the Finals, get thoroughly out-assisted and out-branded by multiple championship opponents, be a net negative in a Finals but still win, try to trademark a common phrase while making fun of a traditional Mexican chant and voice tone.........

I could go on all night.. but it's a waste because these facts don't really exist... He just didn't have enough help, right?
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:eek:

Don't do 'em like that Trey Ball :eek:

[Turbo Slayer]

:bowdown:
Wish Duncan havent retired. Good battles.

[insidehoops]

Bring back mid-range bank shots