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DoctorP
09-23-2019, 12:51 AM
All of these arguments are silly in the video age. Watch and make your own assessment, peopleeeee.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N709PB9IoEY

Luc Longley bothering dudes with his length, holding his own against Zo Mourning...

Jordan barely going hard, No Bran ball style here, no Kobe hogging. Just PURE JORDAN EFFICIENCY. GOAT

305Baller
09-23-2019, 01:02 AM
Miami is terrible. Look at these scrubs.

Turbo Slayer
09-23-2019, 05:12 AM
Jordans the GOAT.

brutalBBQ
09-23-2019, 05:47 AM
Longley was a rich man's Baynes, big man Aussie strength.

Rodman's pass to Jordan in the 3rd for the reverse layup.

Commentators "he's got 26 points a quiet night for Jordan"
"His back is sore because he's being playing to much golf"

GOAT

sd3035
09-23-2019, 09:19 AM
Prime Jordan is a poor man's Demar Derozan in today's NBA

The game has passed him by

Manny98
09-23-2019, 09:25 AM
Those Bulls teams were absolutely loaded :eek: :eek:

Longley would have EASILY been the best Center LeBron had played with

superduper
09-23-2019, 09:26 AM
Miami is terrible. Look at these scrubs.

Expansion era > Tank era

72-10
09-23-2019, 01:18 PM
Bulls started 19-0 against Miami, which had matured into a playoff team with Glen Rice and Steve Smith just for starters, two top 20 shooters all time. How does it take a team with that much talent 20 games to beat the 90s Bulls? They have the scouting report.

DoctorP
09-24-2019, 02:40 AM
wrong year. thats 93 i think this is 96. rileys first year.

Turbo Slayer
09-24-2019, 07:39 AM
:lol

Turbo Slayer
09-24-2019, 07:58 AM
Trying to keep this thread alive

72-10
09-24-2019, 10:31 PM
wrong year. thats 93 i think this is 96. rileys first year.

Right, but it still seemed relevant to the thread's topic.

No one would expect Longley to do much against Mourning least of all score and his passing game was weak.

Smoke117
09-24-2019, 10:36 PM
Bulls started 19-0 against Miami, which had matured into a playoff team with Glen Rice and Steve Smith just for starters, two top 20 shooters all time. How does it take a team with that much talent 20 games to beat the 90s Bulls? They have the scouting report.

Steve Smith was just a role player and that was Rice's first season averaging over 20ppg. They were going up against Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. Also, they made the playoffs winning 38 games. "Matured into a playoff team." :oldlol: "How does it take a team with that much talent" :oldlol: You are so full of shit.

72-10
09-24-2019, 10:44 PM
Steve Smith was just a role player and that was Rice's first season averaging over 20ppg. They were going up against Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. Also, they made the playoffs winning 38 games. "Matured into a playoff team." :oldlol: "How does it take a team with that much talent" :oldlol: You are so full of shit.

In the 92 playoffs, Steve Smith shot 53% from the field, 64% from three and 83% from the line. Freshman no more dude. A team with two shooters that good, plus Seikaly to rebound shouldn't lose 19 straight to anyone.

egokiller
09-24-2019, 10:47 PM
We're talking about a GOAT that after just his 5th game of coming back from retirement dropped 55 points on NY.

This man would shit on his opposition with Bill Wemmington, Jud Buechler, Jason Caffey and Steve Kerr on the floor with him.

He's everything Lebron ever wanted to be, but couldn't. :applause:

bigkingsfan
09-24-2019, 10:50 PM
Massive 22 18 10 triple double for big schlong Pip.

Smoke117
09-24-2019, 10:53 PM
In the 92 playoffs, Steve Smith shot 53% from the field, 64% from three and 83% from the line. Freshman no more dude. A team with two shooters that good, plus Seikaly to rebound shouldn't lose 19 straight to anyone.

And Glen Rice was complete garbage averaging 19ppg on 21.3 shot attempts. That's beside the point that they were completely awful defensive players. Both Jordan and pippen did whatever they wanted. Jordan averaged 45ppg on 61%fg and Pippen 24ppg on 55%fg in that playoff series. In game 3 Jordan had 56 points and Pippen 31. Rice and Smith on shit their shit pushed in by two vastly superior players.

72-10
09-24-2019, 10:57 PM
And Glen Rice was complete garbage averaging 19ppg on 21.3 shot attempts. That's beside the point that they were completely awful defensive players. Both Jordan and pippen did whatever they wanted. Jordan averaged 45ppg on 61%fg and Pippen 24ppg on 55%fg in that playoff series. Rice and Smith on shit their shit pushed in by two vastly superior players.

That's not the cucking point the point is that a team with two shooters that good should be able to win a game against a Bulls team even if they're the best in the league it shouldn't take that long you cucking joke.

3ball
09-24-2019, 10:58 PM
And Glen Rice was complete garbage averaging 19ppg on 21.3 shot attempts. That's beside the point that they were completely awful defensive players. Both Jordan and pippen did whatever they wanted. Jordan averaged 45ppg on 601fg and Pippen 24ppg on 55%fg in that playoff series. Rice and Smith on shit their shit pushed in by two vastly superior players.
A better idea of Pippen's true contribution is the ECF that year in 92'

That clearly shows prime Pippen's capability when the Bulls were tested against a great team and defense

72-10
09-24-2019, 11:02 PM
anyways that just goes to show how good the Bulls were, but it still seems like it was mostly Jordan's helmsmanship those first three

Smoke117
09-24-2019, 11:04 PM
A better idea of Pippen's true contribution is the ECF that year in 92'

That clearly shows prime Pippen's capability when the Bulls were tested against a great team and defense

And yet the next season vs the same great team and great defense he averaged 22.5ppg on .510%fg.

3ball
09-24-2019, 11:19 PM
And yet the next season vs the same great team and great defense he averaged 22.5ppg on .510%fg.
You probably think that was a good response... :kobe:

But you forgot - no X-man in 1993 boss..... :no:

You know, the guy that outplayed and owned Pippen in every way in the 1992 ECF?

The guy that Pippen was terrified of and couldn't look in the eye, so MJ had to step in and handle X for him???

That guy?

So yeah... who cares about 1993

Otoh, fast-forward to the 1996 ECSF when another tough guy - Anthony Mason - had entered his prime and was on the cusp of his all-nba and all-defense campaign in 97' - against this elite comp, we see Pippen get destroyed for 15 on 33%.... :facepalm

Anything else boss?

72-10
09-24-2019, 11:24 PM
All I'm sayin' is that a team with two shooters who can pick apart a defense from 18 feet in Rice and Smith should be able to at least get a win (not the playoffs, and not in the playoffs, of course, you know, but a win, somewheres).

Smoke117
09-24-2019, 11:24 PM
You probably think that was a good response... :kobe:

But you forgot - no X-man in 1993 boss..... :no:

You know, the guy that outplayed and owned Pippen in every way in the 1992 ECF?

The guy that Pippen was terrified of and couldn't look in the eye, so MJ had to step in and handle X for him???

That guy?

So yeah... who cares about 1993

Otoh, fast-forward to the 1996 ECSF when another tough guy - Anthony Mason - had entered his prime and was on the cusp of his all-nba and all-defense campaign in 97' - against this elite comp, we see Pippen get destroyed for 15 on 33%.... :facepalm

Anything else boss?

lol who cares about 1993. They wouldn't have gotten past the Knicks if Pippen didn't play so well and hit so many clutch shots. I'd say the Bulls and all their fans did.

Also, I don't know why it is so hard for you to acknowledge Pippen was beat to hell in the 96 playoffs. It's common knowledge he was dealing with multiple injuries at the end of the season and in the playoffs. You talk as if he was at full strength and just played bad. He issues with his ankle, knee, and wrist.

tpols
09-24-2019, 11:29 PM
You probably think that was a good response... :kobe:

But you forgot - no X-man in 1993 boss..... :no:

You know, the guy that outplayed and owned Pippen in every way in the 1992 ECF?

The guy that Pippen was terrified of and couldn't look in the eye, so MJ had to step in and handle X for him???

That guy?

So yeah... who cares about 1993

Otoh, fast-forward to the 1996 ECSF when another tough guy - Anthony Mason - had entered his prime and was on the cusp of his all-nba and all-defense campaign in 97' - against this elite comp, we see Pippen get destroyed for 15 on 33%.... :facepalm

Anything else boss?


one of the most keepin it real moments in nba history...


https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-17-2015/TdJiY8.gif


:biggums:

Smoke117
09-24-2019, 11:32 PM
All I'm sayin' is that a team with two shooters who can pick apart a defense from 18 feet in Rice and Smith should be able to at least get a win (not the playoffs, and not in the playoffs, of course, you know, but a win, somewheres).

Stop saying that about Steve Smith. He was averaging 12ppg on 51%ts in the regular season. That's a role player and not even an efficient one. Yeah, he shot well in the playoffs, but he still only scored 16ppg...because.he.was.a.roleplayer. Steve Smith wasn't picking apart anything in the regular season or the playoffs. You keep bringing him up like he was in his prime and not a rookie.

72-10
09-24-2019, 11:33 PM
92 Knicks a little better than 93 Knicks, no? What happened to this man's thread? It's supposed to be about the Mourning-led, Hardaway-deprived Heat, a great defensive team working its way towards being the league's 2nd best the following year.

72-10
09-24-2019, 11:37 PM
Stop saying that about Steve Smith. He was averaging 12ppg on 51%ts in the regular season. That's a role player and not even an efficient one. Yeah, he shot well in the playoffs, but he still only scored 16ppg...because.he.was.a.roleplayer. Steve Smith wasn't picking apart anything in the regular season or the playoffs. You keep bringing him up like he was in his prime and not a rookie.

:rolleyes: They started out with losses the following year, too. Smith shot over 40% from three that year. You just want to win the argument for the sake of the argument. It would appear that Smith took off in that 92 series vs the Bulls and kind of never looked back after that.

3ball
09-24-2019, 11:43 PM
lol who cares about 1993. They wouldn't have gotten past the Knicks if Pippen didn't play so well and hit so many clutch shots. I'd say the Bulls and all their fans did.



I watched all those series and Pippen didn't hit any clutch shots

That's just a lie... If he did happen to hit one, it wasn't anything that impacted the series outcome - I would remember it if he did






Also, I don't know why it is so hard for you to acknowledge Pippen was beat to hell in the 96 playoffs.
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Because pippen played like aids all the time

So I'm supposed to chalk up his 96' run to injuries? When he was aids in 97' and 98' too? And 1992??... or 88-80'?

Did you see the list all those series where pippen was horrible??? - that's a lot of series - no need to single out one or two and chalk them up to injury - that's just how pippen played a lot of the time.. :confusedshrug:

Smoke117
09-24-2019, 11:48 PM
:rolleyes: They started out with losses the following year, too. Smith shot over 40% from three that year. You just want to win the argument for the sake of the argument. It would appear that Smith took off in that 92 series vs the Bulls and kind of never looked back after that.

lol You act like they were both lighting the world on fire in 93. Rice averaged 19ppg and Smith 16ppg on average efficiency. Neither was even a legitimate star that season.

305Baller
09-25-2019, 04:19 AM
stacked. no excuses . ****ing miami had a bum team/... FIRE PAT RILEYS BUMA SS

90sgoat
09-25-2019, 07:16 AM
Look at how much better ball movement was back then.

Look at how much superior the post play was.

Mourning hitting back to back midrange jumpers. Longley with the running hook and finger roll.