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stalkerforlife
09-26-2019, 12:30 AM
Anyone know of any others?

Simply an amazing accomplishment.

warriorfan
09-26-2019, 12:43 AM
Off the top of my head no

If they had the dpoy award back on the day I think Russell would have a few, Kareem and Wilt could get one. KG could have probably done it with a better squad in his youth. A guy like Leonard could still do it today.

SouBeachTalents
09-26-2019, 12:54 AM
He did all that AND carried arguably the worst championship roster of all time

SpaceJam
09-26-2019, 01:16 AM
He did all that AND carried arguably the worst championship roster of all time

No wonder MJ feared him!

bigkingsfan
09-26-2019, 01:17 AM
Lebron was close, 2nd in DPOY 2013

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-26-2019, 01:49 AM
Peak Hakeem and Shaq are the only 2 who can compete with peak MJ for GOAT and Shaq has clear weaknesses on defense and with his FT shooting compared to those too. He was more dominant and automatic offensively but he wasnt as complete and u couldnt take advantage of any part of MJ or Hakeems game on either end

bobopenguin
09-26-2019, 02:02 AM
cos MJ wasnt around. If MJ was there, then it's just DPOY for hakeem.

Manny98
09-26-2019, 03:32 AM
LeBron & Hakeem that's it

Bawkish
09-26-2019, 03:40 AM
LeBron & Hakeem that's it

Taco Tuesday was 2 days ago, try again next week

Dr Hawk
09-26-2019, 04:20 AM
Top 5 player of all-time.

Andrei89
09-26-2019, 06:23 AM
LeBron & Hakeem that's it


Then you wonder why nobody takes you remotely serious faking buffoon

Kblaze8855
09-26-2019, 06:44 AM
I just wish I could peek into an alternate universe where Houston agreed to the offer of Drexler and the #2 pick for Sampson which gives the Rockets and big 3 of Hakeem, Jordan, and Drexler.

They legit may have approached the 60s Celtics.

What the hell do you do with Hakeem down low and Jordan and Drexler on the wings?

Dr Hawk
09-26-2019, 08:55 AM
I just wish I could peek into an alternate universe where Houston agreed to the offer of Drexler and the #2 pick for Sampson which gives the Rockets and big 3 of Hakeem, Jordan, and Drexler.

They legit may have approached the 60s Celtics.

What the hell do you do with Hakeem down low and Jordan and Drexler on the wings?

Try your best.

Manny98
09-26-2019, 09:27 AM
Then you wonder why nobody takes you remotely serious faking buffoon
Everyone knows that LeBron deserved the DPOY over Gasol in 2013 so it counts

Mr Feeny
09-26-2019, 10:16 AM
I don't think its been done. MJ has done DPOY, MVP and scoring title, but that combination (DPOY and both mvps) hasn't been done if I'm not mistaken.

In any other era,Hakeem would have been the player of his generation. Running into the greatest player ever is unfortunate sometimes because your legacy would be a lot greater than it already is if he weren't around.

FultzNationRISE
09-26-2019, 10:26 AM
No wonder MJ feared him!


Basically this. Hakeem

jlip
09-26-2019, 11:21 AM
If the FMVP and DPOY existed in the 60's Bill Russell would have easily accomplished this in...
1962- Won MVP, was recognized as the best defensive player, and led his team in scoring, rebounding, and fg% in the finals.

1963- Won MVP, was recognized as the best defensive player, avg. 20ppg in the finals with dominant rebounding and defense in the finals

1965- Won MVP, was recognized as the best defensive player, avg. 17.8ppg on a still standing record for a 5 game series 70.2 fg% with dominant rebounding and defense in the finals


Wilt would have accomplished this is 1967. His '67 season is arguably the peak all around season in league history. He won the MVP, had a GOAT level defensive performance, and did the same in the finals. That season, Russell stated that Wilt had figured out how to play like him but better.

TheMan
09-26-2019, 11:44 AM
I just wish I could peek into an alternate universe where Houston agreed to the offer of Drexler and the #2 pick for Sampson which gives the Rockets and big 3 of Hakeem, Jordan, and Drexler.

They legit may have approached the 60s Celtics.

What the hell do you do with Hakeem down low and Jordan and Drexler on the wings?
That's insane :eek:

Porter at point, MJ at SG, Drexler at SF, Buck at PF and imagine in that universe, Sabonis coming over from Europe to play center. :eek:

As a Bulls fan, thank goodness that didn't materialize :lol

AirBonner
09-26-2019, 06:30 PM
Hakeem is kind of overrated. 90

Andrei89
09-27-2019, 04:26 AM
Everyone knows that LeBron deserved the DPOY over Gasol in 2013 so it counts


"everyone" = basically "my retarded brain"

LostCause
09-27-2019, 04:38 AM
Giannis can do it. So can Embiid especially with Philly looking to be a nightmare defensively this season

@The above post. LeBron was closer to 3rd in DPOY voting than he was to beating Gasol in 2013. Or put a different way, LeBron was as “close” to beating Gasol as the 7th place finisher was to finishing ahead of LeBron

Gasol kinda ran away with it and was the favorite the whole year. So that “everyone knows” narrative is pretty hilarious

ImKobe
09-27-2019, 04:40 AM
Hakeem is kind of overrated. 90’s was an absolute shit era and he didn’t get it done the majority of the time

Overrated? He didn't have all-time great teammates for most of his career. He finally got some when he was in his mid-30s and so were others.

When he won 58 games and MVP/DPOY/FMVP, Otis Thorpe was his 2nd option at 14 points per game. He absolutely carried an average roster to a title. He led the team in points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks for the entire title run in 1994.

90's is absolute shit to you because you weren't alive for most of it and don't know what you're talking about.

Manny98
09-27-2019, 04:51 AM
Giannis can do it. So can Embiid especially with Philly looking to be a nightmare defensively this season

@The above post. LeBron was closer to 3rd in DPOY voting than he was to beating Gasol in 2013. Or put a different way, LeBron was as “close” to beating Gasol as the 7th place finisher was to finishing ahead of LeBron

Gasol kinda ran away with it and was the favorite the whole year. So that “everyone knows” narrative is pretty hilarious
Ok but LeBron is still the ONLY perimeter player ever to win MVP, finals MVP and finish top 2 in DPOY in the same year :bowdown: :bowdown:

ImKobe
09-27-2019, 04:59 AM
Ok but LeBron is still the ONLY perimeter player ever to win MVP, finals MVP and finish top 2 in DPOY in the same year :bowdown: :bowdown:

We really bragging about 2nd place now?

I guess it makes sense a Lebronsexual would brag about 2nd place, seeing as his idol has lost 6 times in the Finals.

and MJ finished 2nd in 1993 so nice try.

SouBeachTalents
09-27-2019, 05:03 AM
We really bragging about 2nd place now?

I guess it makes sense a Lebronsexual would brag about 2nd place, seeing as his idol has lost 6 times in the Finals.

and MJ finished 2nd in 1993 so nice try.
Jordan didn't win MVP in '93 though

Manny98
09-27-2019, 05:05 AM
We really bragging about 2nd place now?

I guess it makes sense a Lebronsexual would brag about 2nd place, seeing as his idol has lost 6 times in the Finals.

and MJ finished 2nd in 1993 so nice try.
MJ didn't win MVP that year

So only LeBron can MVP and Finals MVP whilst finishing top 2 in DPOY :applause:

MJ simply didn't have what it takes to accomplish such a feat

Mr Feeny
09-27-2019, 05:31 AM
Jordan didn't win MVP in '93 though

It's arbitrary. Jordan has done DPOY and scoring title and MVP in the same season. We are talking about a random arbitrary combination that has only been done by Hakeem.

And Lebron certainly wasn't close to winning it in 2013 because the gap between Gasol and him was huge.

We have a few players who have won FMVp, MVP and dPOY in different years. But they've checked all boxes and won all of them. Lebron never won DPOY so this is a moot point.

Manny98
09-27-2019, 06:01 AM
It's arbitrary. Jordan has done DPOY and scoring title and MVP in the same season. We are talking about a random arbitrary combination that has only been done by Hakeem.

And Lebron certainly wasn't close to winning it in 2013 because the gap between Gasol and him was huge.

We have a few players who have won FMVp, MVP and dPOY in different years. But they've checked all boxes and won all of them. Lebron never won DPOY so this is a moot point.
Players to win MVP and finals MVP whilst finishing top 2 in DPOY

LeBron
Hakeem

Sorry but MJ didn't make this exclusive GOAT club :no:

https://i.postimg.cc/wTzqGZpG/4bUV7Ls.gif

SouBeachTalents
09-27-2019, 06:02 AM
Players to win MVP and finals MVP whilst finishing top 2 in DPOY

LeBron
Hakeem

Sorry but MJ didn't make this exclusive GOAT club :no:
Shaq too, and Jordan actually won a DPOY :lol

ImKobe
09-27-2019, 10:12 AM
Jordan didn't win MVP in '93 though

He was by far the best player in the league that year. MJ suffered because the voters/league didn't want to give him the award every single year but he still led the league in scoring, steals, PER, winshares, +/-, VORP.

Jordan's won MVP and DPOY in the same season so I don't think it matters either way. Lebron has never won DPOY or played well enough on that end to be considered one.

warriorfan
09-27-2019, 10:14 AM
[QUOTE=AirBonner]Hakeem is kind of overrated. 90

Hey Yo
09-27-2019, 10:30 AM
Overrated? He didn't have all-time great teammates for most of his career. He finally got some when he was in his mid-30s and so were others.

When he won 58 games and MVP/DPOY/FMVP, Otis Thorpe was his 2nd option at 14 points per game. He absolutely carried an average roster to a title. He led the team in points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks for the entire title run in 1994.

90's is absolute shit to you because you weren't alive for most of it and don't know what you're talking about.
Olajuwon's rookie year he had Ralph Sampson who was All-NBA that year, reigning rookie of the year and avg. 19-11 his 2nd season. Robert Reid and Lewis Lloyd we also very serviceable players on that team.

Hey Yo
09-27-2019, 10:34 AM
Mods
Well ........ he did lose in the first round 8x and that's not counting the one when he was 39yrs old.

ImKobe
09-27-2019, 10:47 AM
Olajuwon's rookie year he had Ralph Sampson who was All-NBA that year, reigning rookie of the year and avg. 19-11 his 2nd season. Robert Reid and Lewis Lloyd we also very serviceable players on that team.

Yeah, and he made the Finals his 2nd season, beating the Showtime Lakers 4 - 1 with Ralph Sampson as his 2nd option and losing to a 67-win Celtics squad in 6 games.

But much like Kobe, he didn't have any great players around him during his absolute prime so he lost out on a lot of potential championships. Maybe if Sampson doesn't play on his injured knee and the two stayed together for a long time. Imagine if he played with a guy like Stockton or Zeke or Kevin Johnson ins his prime though.

superduper
09-27-2019, 11:11 AM
Oh look, Fanny, Boner, and Ghey Yo with the lowest IQ takes in the thread, shocker.

Kiddlovesnets
09-27-2019, 01:52 PM
Yeah of course no one else has done that, there is a reason why Hakeem is top 10 all time.

Young X
09-27-2019, 06:04 PM
The year before is actually his best season. He was 2nd in MVP voting (more votes than Jordan) and won DPOY over Jordan. He won more in 1994 because the Sonics choked against the Nuggets (Rockets avoided them) and Barkley and the Suns got worse. Plus even if they had gotten past those two teams I don't think they would've beaten the Bulls. Everything worked out perfectly for him in 1994.

Overdrive
09-27-2019, 06:26 PM
Players to win MVP and finals MVP whilst finishing top 2 in DPOY

LeBron
Hakeem

Sorry but MJ didn't make this exclusive GOAT club :no:

https://i.postimg.cc/wTzqGZpG/4bUV7Ls.gif

So Hakeem > Lebron?

Since on alot of AT lists Hakeem is considered #10, that would make Lebron #11.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
09-27-2019, 06:56 PM
The year before is actually his best season. He was 2nd in MVP voting (more votes than Jordan) and won DPOY over Jordan. He won more in 1994 because the Sonics choked against the Nuggets (Rockets avoided them) and Barkley and the Suns got worse. Plus even if they had gotten past those two teams I don't think they would've beaten the Bulls. Everything worked out perfectly for him in 1994.

Hakeem had a winning record against MJ and up to 93 was 11-4 against him

Rockets frontcourt always bullied the Bulls on the glass and MJ was far less efficient against them with Hakeems perimeter and paint coverage, from his scoring efficiency (53.8 TS) to turnovers (3 a game, 14.3 tov % for a guy who was single digit turnover rate for his career).

It was a bad matchup for them and well known at the time too. With MJs struggles against them they didnt have the offense around him and their frontcourt was food for Hakeem and even guys like Thorpe and Horry gave the Bulls issues

Stringer Bell
09-27-2019, 07:26 PM
Olajuwon's rookie year he had Ralph Sampson who was All-NBA that year, reigning rookie of the year and avg. 19-11 his 2nd season. Robert Reid and Lewis Lloyd we also very serviceable players on that team.

It would have been interesting to see what the Rockets would have done if that team didn

houston
09-27-2019, 09:33 PM
[QUOTE=AirBonner]Hakeem is kind of overrated. 90

egokiller
09-27-2019, 09:55 PM
Oh look, Fanny, Boner, and Ghey Yo with the lowest IQ takes in the thread, shocker.

Imagine being so shook that you never saw GOAT MJ that you have to pretend a 6 time loser is on his level. :roll:

MrFonzworth
09-27-2019, 10:16 PM
Oh look, Fanny, Boner, and Ghey Yo with the lowest IQ takes in the thread, shocker.
:lol

Round Mound
09-28-2019, 04:50 AM
Most Skilled Center of All Time. Reached the finals in his 2nd year beating one of the GOAT teams (and lost against THE GOAT Team) and was the 2nd best player in the game overall from 85 to 95 (Barkley was the 2nd best from 89-93).

eliteballer
10-01-2019, 07:36 PM
94/95 Hakeem's runs are probably as impressive as any players ever.

Mr Feeny
10-02-2019, 03:45 AM
94/95 Hakeem's runs are probably as impressive as any players ever.

Yeah. That was crazy. They upset how many top seeds en route to that title?

And that was with him going head to head against every top big man in the league to get that title.

GimmeThat
10-02-2019, 04:12 AM
and it is to be noted that just because he carries and demonstrates aspects of Nigerian mentality, it does not make him a politician