During MJ's first 4 seasons, he shot 16 percent from three

[Turbo Slayer]

:wtf:

[Bronbron23]

What's your point? Mj wasn't a great shooter period when he came into the league. It's was something he worked on and got better at.

Oh and he was usually better in the playoffs when shit mattered and harder. His 3 point average in the playoffs for those same 4 seasons is 50%.

[ImKobe]

And how many of them were actual 3-point attempts vs him taking half-court heaves at the end of quarters/halves or forcing up a shot as the shot clock expires? He was taking 0.6-1 per game in those seasons. The first season he shot actual 3s at some volume (1990), he shot 37.6% at 3 attempts per game and then shot ~39% for the 3-Peat at 2.4 attempts per game.

You guys are retarded.

[egokiller]

It’s stupid to talk about MJ having a problem with 3’s when he set a record for most 3’s in a half in a finals game.

“but....but....but.... that’s only because he is GOAT and willed his way into doing what was needed to win”

:biggums:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[SamuraiSWISH]

And how many of them were actual 3-point attempts vs him taking half-court heaves at the end of quarters/halves or forcing up a shot as the shot clock expires? He was taking 0.6-1 per game in those seasons. The first season he shot actual 3s at some volume (1990), he shot 37.6% at 3 attempts per game and then shot ~39% for the 3-Peat at 2.4 attempts per game.

You guys are retarded.
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[Rico2016]

Who didn't know Jordan was a terrible shooter? The Gatorade and Nike myths need to stop once and for all. He was hyped up before social media could really figure out the truth.

Jordan was an elite level scorer and a good defender (LeBron is elite at both)
Jordan was an elite dunker with elite athleticism (Same for LeBron)
Jordan was a terrible shooter (LeBron is a great shooter)
Jordan was a terrible teammate (LeBron is elite)

The Gatorade hype myths stop NOW

Let it be known, Jordan cannot shoot

[FultzNationRISE]

Who didn't know Jordan was a terrible shooter? The Gatorade and Nike myths need to stop once and for all. He was hyped up before social media could really figure out the truth.

Jordan was an elite level scorer and a good defender (LeBron is elite at both)
Jordan was an elite dunker with elite athleticism (Same for LeBron)
Jordan was a terrible shooter (LeBron is a great shooter)
Jordan was a terrible teammate (LeBron is elite)

The Gatorade hype myths stop NOW

Let it be known, Jordan cannot shoot


:lebronamazed: :lebronamazed: :lebronamazed:


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[And1AllDay]

Who didn't know Jordan was a terrible shooter? The Gatorade and Nike myths need to stop once and for all. He was hyped up before social media could really figure out the truth.

Jordan was an elite level scorer and a good defender (LeBron is elite at both)
Jordan was an elite dunker with elite athleticism (Same for LeBron)
Jordan was a terrible shooter (LeBron is a great shooter)
Jordan was a terrible teammate (LeBron is elite)

The Gatorade hype myths stop NOW

Let it be known, Jordan cannot shoot


the fax cant lose

[Bronbron23]

Who didn't know Jordan was a terrible shooter? The Gatorade and Nike myths need to stop once and for all. He was hyped up before social media could really figure out the truth.

Jordan was an elite level scorer and a good defender (LeBron is elite at both)
Jordan was an elite dunker with elite athleticism (Same for LeBron)
Jordan was a terrible shooter (LeBron is a great shooter)
Jordan was a terrible teammate (LeBron is elite)

The Gatorade hype myths stop NOW

Let it be known, Jordan cannot shoot
This is on some Nick wright lying shit. Mj was a better defender than LeBron. At worst it's a wash so I'm not sure how u can say mj was good and Bron was elite.

Yes they both had elite athleticism and dunking but mj was a way more versatile dunker. He could drunk on you off one or two. He could also dunk on guys off a jump stop which not many guys can do. LeBron has always been mainly a two foot leaper.

The shooting comment may be your worst. Mj was a better overall shooter. He was way better in the mid range and foul shooting. LeBron was a slightly better three point shooter.

As far as teammates it's pretty much a wash. LeBron throws his teammates under the bus or will leave them for greener pastures and mj will punch them in the face.

[Bawkish]

Who didn't know Jordan was a terrible shooter? The Gatorade and Nike myths need to stop once and for all. He was hyped up before social media could really figure out the truth.

Jordan was an elite level scorer and a good defender (LeBron is elite at both)
Jordan was an elite dunker with elite athleticism (Same for LeBron)
Jordan was a terrible shooter (LeBron is a great shooter)
Jordan was a terrible teammate (LeBron is elite)

The Gatorade hype myths stop NOW

Let it be known, Jordan cannot shoot

hey at least MJ could shoot free throws

lebron on the other hand.....

[Spurs m8]

OP started watching basketball this year, maybe we should cut the little guy some slack?
Or maybe he should research the sport a bit first?

Funniest part is he doesn't even realise how stupid his post is and assumes basketball has always been played the same.

Jesus christ hahahahah

[305Baller]

jordon: worst of all time

[Manny98]

That's why they call him Ordan :roll:

[305Baller]

hes a bald loser like lebaldo

and charles baldy. shaquille baldheel


black skinheadz

[TheMan]

That's why they call him Ordan :roll::biggums:

Remember when Pop's defensive strategy had his Spurs giving LeBron space and daring him to shoot during a Finals series...and it worked? At no point in MJ's career, even in his first years in the league, was that ever a thing with MJ. :roll:

[TheMan]

That's why they call him Ordan :roll::biggums:

Remember when Pop's defensive strategy had his Spurs giving LeBron space and daring him to shoot during a Finals series...and it worked? At no point in MJ's career, even in his first years in the league, was that ever a thing with MJ. :roll:

[Manny98]

:biggums:

Remember when Pop's defensive strategy had his Spurs giving LeBron space and daring him to shoot during a Finals series...and it worked? At no point in MJ's career, even in his first years in the league, was that ever a thing with MJ. :roll:
You on about the 2014 Finals where he shot 52% from 3 that series? So no it didn't work

The only time MJ could dream of shooting 3s like LeBron is with a shortened 3 point line :oldlol:

[chains5000]

You on about the 2014 Finals where he shot 52% from 3 that series? So no it didn't work
You know Miami lost, right?

[superduper]

Imagine seriously clowning Jordan for his JUMPER of all things :facepalm :facepalm

You fools are straight up embarrassing tbh and don't have the slightest grasp on reality.

[chains5000]

Imagine seriously clowning Jordan for his JUMPER of all things :facepalm :facepalm

You fools are straight up embarrassing tbh and don't have the slightest grasp on reality.
https://i.imgur.com/C87xx6T.jpg

[Manny98]

You know Miami lost, right?
They lost but it had nothing to do with baiting LeBron to take 3s since he shot over 50% for the series

[chains5000]

They lost but it had nothing to do with baiting LeBron to take 3s since he shot over 50% for the series
Making him shoot meant he wasn't playing his usual game, which led to them losing. Is it that hard to understand?

[LostCause]

Dumb take

You morons have got to do better

[Hey Yo]

You know Miami lost, right?
Thanks to Wade and Bosh being no shows that series.

[chains5000]

It's always someone else's fault

[Mr Feeny]

Thanks to Wade and Bosh being no shows that series.

So he couldn't elevate 2 elite players who were weaker than anyone Kawhi had at that point?
We know! That's another reason Kawhi is better.

[Manny98]

Making him shoot meant he wasn't playing his usual game, which led to them losing. Is it that hard to understand?
But he was playing his usual game he averaged 28/8/4 for the series off 57% from the field LeBron had literally the most efficient series of his career so this idea that the Spurs shut down LeBron or forced him into playing outside his usual game is false

[Manny98]

So he couldn't elevate 2 elite players who were weaker than anyone Kawhi had at that point?
We know! That's another reason Kawhi is better.
Only a idiot would think that Kawhi is even on the same planet bas LeBron :facepalm

[chains5000]

But he was playing his usual game he averaged 28/8/4 for the series off 57% from the field LeBron had literally the most efficient series of his career so this idea that the Spurs shut down LeBron or forced him into playing outside his usual game is false
Don't care about that, just saying your "didn't work" line is wrong.
A ring->worked

[Mr Feeny]

Only a idiot would think that Kawhi is even on the same planet bas LeBron :facepalm

Sorry manny. You already said Lebron was 11th all time

[G0ATbe]

Who didn't know Jordan was a terrible shooter? The Gatorade and Nike myths need to stop once and for all. He was hyped up before social media could really figure out the truth.

Jordan was an elite level scorer and a good defender (LeBron is elite at both)
Jordan was an elite dunker with elite athleticism (Same for LeBron)
Jordan was a terrible shooter (LeBron is a great shooter)
Jordan was a terrible teammate (LeBron is elite)

The Gatorade hype myths stop NOW

Let it be known, Jordan cannot shoot
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[Da_Realist]

So? MJ constantly refined his game. You could say he had 3 different primes.

85-89 Super athletic, take it to the rack, hangtime, Come Fly With Me mode

96-98 Athletic but mostly a master technician, dominant from the mid-post, unblockable fadeaway shot, surveyed the defense and picked his spots

90-93, 95 Mixture of (85-89) and (96-98), widely considered the best version of MJ

He won scoring titles in all three dispensations, meaning he dominated multiple ways. Defenders couldn't stop him when he took it to the rack, hung in the air, pulled up or posted up. Didn't matter.

He was a top tier perimeter defender in all 3 dispensations.

Pick a year, any year. He was dominating the league from a personal standpoint and he dominated from a team standpoint in the last 2.

Who cares if he was only shooting 16% from 3 when he was averaging 37 a game and would transform his game enough to still be dominating the league a decade later?

[Hey Yo]

It's always someone else's fault
Did the so-called superstars put up superstar numbers or not?

If it was James' fault in 2011, then it was definitely Bosh and Wade's fault in 2014.

[chains5000]

Did the so-called superstars put up superstar numbers or not?

If it was James' fault in 2011, then it was definitely Bosh and Wade's fault in 2014.
:applause:

[Hey Yo]

So he couldn't elevate 2 elite players who were weaker than anyone Kawhi had at that point?
We know! That's another reason Kawhi is better.
Why would 2 "elite" superstars need elevated in the Finals???

[Hey Yo]

:applause:
You're welcome for the facts that couldn't be refuted.

[chains5000]

You're welcome for the facts that couldn't be refuted.
It's funny how it's only Lebron's teammates the ones who don't deliver.

[Hey Yo]

It's funny how it's only Lebron's teammates the ones who don't deliver.
It's funny how James gets all the blame for 2011 but Wade and Bosh get no blame in 2014 when they don't deliver.

[TheMan]

You on about the 2014 Finals where he shot 52% from 3 that series? So no it didn't work

The only time MJ could dream of shooting 3s like LeBron is with a shortened 3 point line :oldlol:
Lol, so dumb :roll:

It worked, they sagged off him to dare him to beat them with his jumper, took away his drive to the rim. So he shot 52% from beyond the three point line...how many 3pters per game did he take? 5 per game, lol. Still didn't make up the difference if to make the Spurs respect his mid range game, took away his penetration to the rim and the Spurs whooped that ass...so no, the Spurs strategy did work.

[Manny98]

Lol, so dumb :roll:

It worked, they sagged off him to dare him to beat them with his jumper, took away his drive to the rim. So he shot 52% from beyond the three point line...how many 3pters per game did he take? 5 per game, lol. Still didn't make up the difference if to make the Spurs respect his mid range game, took away his penetration to the rim and the Spurs whooped that ass...so no, the Spurs strategy did work.
He averaged 28 off 57% from the f*cking field and he takes 5 3s a game anyway so the Spurs didn't do shit

The Heat lost because Wade and Bosh played like shit and the Spurs were scorching hot from 3

[ImKobe]

Lol, so dumb :roll:

It worked, they sagged off him to dare him to beat them with his jumper, took away his drive to the rim. So he shot 52% from beyond the three point line...how many 3pters per game did he take? 5 per game, lol. Still didn't make up the difference if to make the Spurs respect his mid range game, took away his penetration to the rim and the Spurs whooped that ass...so no, the Spurs strategy did work.

Lebron was rather ineffective when the games were still close. He was on the floor when they had already blown the lead in Game 1, he didn't do much of anything when the score was close from Games 3-5. The boxscore numbers are meaningless without context. He did most of his damage down big in those games.

[TheMan]

Lebron was rather ineffective when the games were still close. He was on the floor when they had already blown the lead in Game 1, he didn't do much of anything when the score was close from Games 3-5. The boxscore numbers are meaningless without context. He did most of his damage down big in those games.
Exactly, LeStans always looking for excuses. I recall people here saying that James just never seemed to be capable of putting his team on his back, imposing his will like other greats have. Nice empty stats. The talent differential between both teams were not equal to the whipping the Heat got, I mean this was old ass Spurs and a young Kawhi ffs :facepalm

The strategy worked because the Spurs knew that James jumper is inconsistent, they'd rather see him taking uncontested mid-range jumpers and chucking threes than get up on him and have him drive to the hoop to get layups, fouls or passes to teammates. The Spurs strategy worked.

[superduper]

Another day another Bran alt screaming to himself 20x a day that Bran's the GOAT!!!! :rant :mad: :cry:

[RRR3]

People here are either retarded or have the memories of goldfish. The Spurs weren’t sagging off LeBron in 2014, I literally remember Kawhi fighting through a screen to contest a LeBron 3.

Stop confusing 2013 with 2014. His jumper was as good as its ever been in the 14 playoffs.

[Manny98]

Lebron was rather ineffective when the games were still close. He was on the floor when they had already blown the lead in Game 1, he didn't do much of anything when the score was close from Games 3-5. The boxscore numbers are meaningless without context. He did most of his damage down big in those games.
More lies, LeBron scored 17 of his 31 points in game 5 in the first quarter

The Heat had a 115 DRTG with the LeBron on the court and a 130 DRTG when LeBron sat the Heat basically were getting absolutely torched whenever LeBron.

Wade was f*cking dogshit the entire series and shot 7-25 in the final 2 games and was getting cooked on defense by Mills and Manu the whole entire series

Bosh was a complete non factor he didn't do f*ck all either

[Mr Feeny]

More lies, LeBron scored 17 of his 31 points in game 5 in the first quarter

The Heat had a 115 DRTG with the LeBron on the court and a 130 DRTG when LeBron sat the Heat basically were getting absolutely torched whenever LeBron.

Wade was f*cking dogshit the entire series and shot 7-25 in the final 2 games and was getting cooked on defense by Mills and Manu the whole entire series

Bosh was a complete non factor he didn't do f*ck all either

So one of the greatest players ever in Wade looked bad next to Lebron. I guess we deduct Lebron points for not elevating his teammates.

[Manny98]

So one of the greatest players ever in Wade looked bad next to Lebron. I guess we deduct Lebron points for not elevating his teammates.
It's not LeBrons fault that Wade played like dogshit :oldlol:

[superduper]

It's not LeBrons fault that Wade played like dogshit :oldlol:

So when Bran's teammates play good = LeGOAT elevates his teammates!!!!

when Bran's teammates play bad = Bran has zero help.

LeGOAT...never....loses :rockon:

[Manny98]

So when Bran's teammates play good = LeGOAT elevates his teammates!!!!

when Bran's teammates play bad = Bran has zero help.

LeGOAT...never....loses :rockon:
You LeBron haters literally spout the opposite of what you just said :oldlol:

When LeBrons teammates play good = his team is stacked, Superteam blah blah blah

When LeBrons teammates play bad = Bron Ball, LeBron can't elevate his teammates, he reduces them to spot up shooters blah blah blah :rant :rant