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1987_Lakers
09-30-2019, 10:47 PM
Run time of 3 hours and 30 minutes, which is LONG, but the reviews I've read so far are 100% positive which is rare.

100% on rotten tomatoes based on 56 critic reviews
92% on metascore based on 20 critic reviews
All of the verified user reviews on IMDB are also extremely positive.

I gotta say I'm surprised, I know this is a Scorsese film, but I had my doubts this would be a great film because of how old Pacino & DeNiro are at this point and all the CGI.

I can't wait for this film to come out.

ROCSteady
09-30-2019, 11:49 PM
I've been monitoring this project for a few years now. The release teaser had me pump

highwhey
09-30-2019, 11:51 PM
yessir. i've been hyped about this film since i heard of its inception.

scuzzy
10-01-2019, 12:09 AM
Looks slick, day 1 fap

off topic

It's bitter sweet watching these great netflix/HBO/Prime originals long dick theater cinema who's been catering to re branded sequels over and over and over the past decad

But at the same time it's tough watching the streaming platform era transition into big corpo daddies next buck.

It's manageable having a few platforms whether you pirate, crack or pay for it legitimately.

But i'm not trying to have 25+ premium accounts just to watch an exclusive here, ESPN+ there, UFC pass there, Apple Tv, Disney+ NBAtv, Netflix, Hulu, Prime, FB watch, Walmart video, DC Univers, Warner Media, etc etc

Soon every big prod company will want their own platform and were just going to end up back bundling all of them together with ads inbetween :confusedshrug:

highwhey
10-01-2019, 12:13 AM
Looks slick, day 1 fap

off topic

It's bitter sweet watching these great netflix/HBO/Prime originals long dick theater cinema who's been catering to re branded sequels over and over and over the past decad

But at the same time it's tough watching the streaming platform era transition into big corpo daddies next buck.

It's manageable having a few platforms whether you pirate, crack or pay for it legitimately.

But i'm not trying to have 25+ premium accounts just to watch an exclusive here, ESPN+ there, UFC pass there, Apple Tv, Disney+ NBAtv, Netflix, Hulu, Prime, FB watch, Walmart video, DC Univers, Warner Media, etc etc

Soon every big prod company will want their own platform and were just going to end up back bundling all of them together with ads inbetween :confusedshrug:agreed, the writing is on the wall. everyone is coming out with their own platform. sucks ass because it's just as expensive as cable...the whole reason for their existence was to pay less than cable and now we're at square 1 again

Smook A.
10-01-2019, 12:36 AM
I've been excited about the movie since I first heard about it. There's no way a movie directed by Scorsese starring Pacino, De Niro, and Pesci could disappoint. Seeing the positive reviews didn't surprise me, but it did make me more hyped.

coin24
10-01-2019, 01:09 AM
Rotten tomatoes critics rated something highly? Usually means it's a sjw agenda based pile of crap.. hope that's not the case with this cause the trailer looks great

Bimbo Coles
10-01-2019, 08:01 AM
Netflix is its achilles heel. It will need to be experienced in a cinema, but they've tucked that up. We're going to respond differently to it on a handheld device than in a blacked-out cinema. With that said, the film probably wouldn't have been possible without them. It's a tough one to reconcile.

tpols
10-01-2019, 06:13 PM
good shit goodfellas crew making a final debut.

BarberSchool
10-02-2019, 08:07 PM
First film in a long time i have actually wanted to see.

Worried it is a play at the hearts and minds of irish americans to "get them to the dark side" more than they already are. Same way west coast rap was used to lure many well meaning good hearted black dudes with strong rebelllious streaks AWAY from Public Enemy/Native Toungues/Consciousness, into horrible broken life paths they couldn't handle.

tpols
10-02-2019, 08:17 PM
First film in a long time i have actually wanted to see.

Worried it is a play at the hearts and minds of irish americans to "get them to the dark side" more than they already are. Same way west coast rap was used to lure many well meaning good hearted black dudes with strong rebelllious streaks AWAY from Public Enemy/Native Toungues/Consciousness, into horrible broken life paths they couldn't handle.


most irish americans have mixed in with a bevy of different origins english, german, polish, italian, greek etc and are just american white.

egokiller
10-02-2019, 08:26 PM
Is this movie about Frank Sheeran instead of Danny Greene? If so consider it a flop. No one gives 2 fvcks about Frank Sheeran and his relation to Jimmy Hoffa, and they'd rather have another movie about Danny Greene who was once a mobster in my great city of Cleveland. :applause:

tpols
10-02-2019, 08:44 PM
Is this movie about Frank Sheeran instead of Danny Greene? If so consider it a flop. No one gives 2 fvcks about Frank Sheeran and his relation to Jimmy Hoffa, and they'd rather have another movie about Danny Greene who was once a mobster in my great city of Cleveland. :applause:


https://media2.giphy.com/media/xUPGcnfmskQ9ho7u4E/giphy.gif

scuzzy
10-02-2019, 08:53 PM
Netflix is its achilles heel. It will need to be experienced in a cinema, but they've tucked that up. We're going to respond differently to it on a handheld device than in a blacked-out cinema. With that said, the film probably wouldn't have been possible without them. It's a tough one to reconcile.
It's a mob thriller

Theaters are mandatory for action/sci-fi imo

I like exclusive release on Netflix/Prime or w/e because you can rewind em if you missed a part or something said


BTW, how does this movie have over 1,500+ reviews? Doesn't it release Nov 27th?

Bimbo Coles
10-03-2019, 11:37 AM
It's a mob thriller

Theaters are mandatory for action/sci-fi imo

I like exclusive release on Netflix/Prime or w/e because you can rewind em if you missed a part or something said


BTW, how does this movie have over 1,500+ reviews? Doesn't it release Nov 27th? The Irishman is made for the cinema. Any 3+ hour film is made for the cinema. Scorsese didn't get what he wanted.

NYFF had a load of screenings + random idiots rating without seeing it.

JohnnySic
10-03-2019, 02:50 PM
Frank Sheeran wasn't an Irishman; he was American-born. There's a difference. :no:

FultzNationRISE
10-03-2019, 02:52 PM
Frank Sheeran wasn't an Irishman; he was American-born. There's a difference. :no:


Well maybe he IDENTIFIES as an Irishman, huh? Maybe he was born in the wrong country? Maybe he FEELS he’s an Irishman in the INSIDE?

Have you ever thought for one single solitary moment, about how HE identifies? Did you?

egokiller
10-03-2019, 03:29 PM
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]Well maybe he IDENTIFIES as an Irishman, huh? Maybe he was born in the wrong country? Maybe he FEELS he

TheMan
10-03-2019, 04:17 PM
Scorsese has an Irish mob infatuation...Gangs of New York, The Departed and now The Irishman, weird since La Cosa Nostra is the GOAT organized crime outfit.

Will watch it obviously...

Andrei89
10-04-2019, 02:35 AM
The Irishman is made for the cinema. Any 3+ hour film is made for the cinema. Scorsese didn't get what he wanted.

NYFF had a load of screenings + random idiots rating without seeing it.


The Irishman will release at the beginning of November in cinemas. It comes out 3 weeks later on Netflix.

Bimbo Coles
10-06-2019, 05:22 AM
The Irishman will release at the beginning of November in cinemas. It comes out 3 weeks later on Netflix. Limited. It's not going wide; Netflix made a dog's breakfast out of the talks. If the film hasn't been announced in your area, the first chance you'll have to see it will be on Netflix.

1987_Lakers
11-02-2019, 07:52 PM
Pacino already getting Oscar talks for best supporting Actor.

1987_Lakers
11-12-2019, 09:43 PM
Updated critic reviews...

Rottentomatoes:
- 96% based on 199 critic reviews (100% from top critics, 43 reviews)
- 92% based on 193 verified audiences

Metacritic
- 94% based on 45 critic reviews (All 45 reviews are positive, no mixed or negative reviews)


This is gonna be a masterpiece boys.

TheMan
11-12-2019, 10:20 PM
Updated critic reviews...

Rottentomatoes:
- 96% based on 199 critic reviews (100% from top critics, 43 reviews)
- 92% based on 193 verified audiences

Metacritic
- 94% based on 45 critic reviews (All 45 reviews are positive, no mixed or negative reviews)


This is gonna be a masterpiece boys.
Way to set the bar incredibly high :facepalm

Smook A.
11-12-2019, 11:03 PM
Updated critic reviews...

Rottentomatoes:
- 96% based on 199 critic reviews (100% from top critics, 43 reviews)
- 92% based on 193 verified audiences

Metacritic
- 94% based on 45 critic reviews (All 45 reviews are positive, no mixed or negative reviews)


This is gonna be a masterpiece boys.
Also currently an 8.7/10 on IMDB

I'm excited for this

https://media0.giphy.com/media/wv3lpsLXZZUAw/giphy.gif

1987_Lakers
11-12-2019, 11:41 PM
Way to set the bar incredibly high :facepalm

I haven't seen the movie yet, but many people who did are saying this is Scorsese's best movie since Goodfellas. I can't fvcking wait.

Andrei89
11-13-2019, 06:50 AM
Two more weeks

Les gaux:bowdown: :bowdown:

Bimbo Coles
11-14-2019, 08:43 AM
I haven't seen the movie yet, but many people who did are saying this is Scorsese's best movie since Goodfellas. I can't fvcking wait. Who are these people? The Age of Innocence is probably his best; Casino is one of its closest comparisons, and is better; and I'd argue that The Departed is more immersive. I'll concede that it doesn't have the indelible scenes found in Goodfellas, but it's a more mature and refined take on that film.

1987_Lakers
11-14-2019, 04:14 PM
Who are these people?
Just read the reviews from critics. I've already heard the word "masterpiece" thrown around by many of them.

Bimbo Coles
11-17-2019, 09:28 AM
Just read the reviews from critics. I've already heard the word "masterpiece" thrown around by many of them. I take masterpiece to mean the apogee of something. Is it a masterpiece? Sure. Is it his masterpiece? Nah. That would be The Age of Innocence, or even something like Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore.

1987_Lakers
11-26-2019, 12:24 PM
It's almost here.

scuzzy
11-27-2019, 09:21 PM
FULL 1080 HD:

The Irishman

https://hdmo.tv/movies/the-irishman/

BarberSchool
11-27-2019, 09:31 PM
Bronson selling him the green casket at the end was LULZ.

Movie was aight, except that casting DeNiro and Pacino as Hoffa (Pensylvania Dutch) and Sheeran (Pasty Irish guy) just isn't biologically accurate.

It's like Casting Dolph Lundgren to play Jesus.
Charlton Heston to play Moses.
FOH Scorcese.

Patrick Chewing
11-28-2019, 01:30 AM
Omg this movie is 3 and a half hours long :eek:

Andrei89
11-28-2019, 03:42 AM
Bronson selling him the green casket at the end was LULZ.

Movie was aight, except that casting DeNiro and Pacino as Hoffa (Pensylvania Dutch) and Sheeran (Pasty Irish guy) just isn't biologically accurate.

It's like Casting Dolph Lundgren to play Jesus.
Charlton Heston to play Moses.
FOH Scorcese.


Did you watch Goodfellas?

Jimmy Conway is full Irish, in Casino he is a full jew.

ROCSteady
11-28-2019, 06:26 PM
Watched this twice on and off. Great movie, very classy Mob flick. Middle of the pack for the filmography.

Will expand upon later if it

highwhey
11-28-2019, 07:45 PM
Omg this movie is 3 and a half hours long :eek:
i watched it in 3 sittings, started yesterday, continued this morning, then finished it right now :oldlol:

way to fvcking long.

good movie tho.

Patrick Chewing
11-28-2019, 09:56 PM
Scorsese really blew it with the younger CGI Deniro. He still looks old as shit and Pesci is calling him

warriorfan
11-29-2019, 12:31 AM
Watched half of it with my brother earlier...started slow but then it got rolling. The scene with Al Pacino going off and DeNiro walking out was amazing. We were dying.

warriorfan
11-29-2019, 12:34 AM
[QUOTE=Patrick Chewing]Scorsese really blew it with the younger CGI Deniro. He still looks old as shit and Pesci is calling him

Facepalm
11-29-2019, 12:53 AM
Apparently this movie got everything wrong and Sheeran is a fraud

https://www.thedailybeast.com/martin-scorseses-the-irishman-is-a-big-lie-heres-what-really-happened-to-jimmy-hoffa?ref=scroll

Shogon
11-29-2019, 05:33 PM
This movie is no where near the level of entertainment of Goodfellas, Casino or The Departed... I don't know what the **** the collective reviewers are thinking.

96% fresh on rotten tomatoes? The ****?

Why? Because of the cast?

It wasn't a boring film, but is sure as shit wasn't in the same league as those other movies.

coin24
11-29-2019, 06:10 PM
This movie is no where near the level of entertainment of Goodfellas, Casino or The Departed... I don't know what the **** the collective reviewers are thinking.

96% fresh on rotten tomatoes? The ****?

Why? Because of the cast?

It wasn't a boring film, but is sure as shit wasn't in the same league as those other movies.


Rotten tomatoes is a sjw shitshow with no credibility, why are you surprised?
If critics there like a movie, guaranteed it's a pile of shit.

Shogon
11-29-2019, 06:16 PM
Rotten tomatoes is a sjw shitshow with no credibility, why are you surprised?
If critics there like a movie, guaranteed it's a pile of shit.

It wouldn't surprise me if some of them have propped it up because of the main character's daughter's role in the movie.

Basically... the movie is about his failed relationship with his daughter, who has looked at him with nothing but disdain for years and flat out cut him off after the Hoffa hit... which is an entirely false version of what actually played out in reality by the way... in fact, most of the movie is historically inaccurate except possibly the Kennedy being taken out by the mafia bit, lol. I just don't buy that the mafia would be able to cause so much government cover-up and omission of information to the public on a federal level like that. Obviously the movie didn't get into that, the Kennedy lines were just interesting is all... But I digress...

Everything except the relationship with his daughter is window dressing. It is the 'meat and potatoes' of the movie.

BarberSchool
11-29-2019, 08:30 PM
Did you watch Goodfellas?

Jimmy Conway is full Irish, in Casino he is a full jew.I'm well aware DeNiro is 50% Irish, 25% Jewish, and 25% Italian. And that he has played all three enthnicities.

What I'm saying, is at any age ...
... DeNiro LOOKS NOTHING LIKE Frank Sheeran.
At all.
Pacino looks nothing like Jimmy Hoffa.
At all.

Movie was still good. Just saying.
Scorcece should cast with biological accuracy yo.

BarberSchool
11-29-2019, 08:33 PM
Rotten tomatoes is a sjw shitshow with no credibility, why are you surprised?
If critics there like a movie, guaranteed it's a pile of shit.Sadly, this is more and more true by the year.
And it's not reallyu the well meaning yet misguided SJW's who are really sh!tting the place up.

What's way worse, are the bought and paid for fake accounts posting focus grouped reviews by the thousands using the same buzzwords, and these done by everyone from competitor's studios, to groups like the SPLC.

Yelp and Rotten Tomatoes are "too big to be truthful" anymore.

Andrei89
11-30-2019, 07:47 AM
Sure it is not as entertaining as Casino.

If I were to watch one of them now I would choose Casino 99 out of a 100 because it is more entertaining.

The better movie though?

Goodfellas>The Departed>The Irishman>Casino

And that is a good company to be in. Great movie

ROCSteady
11-30-2019, 11:19 AM
I'm well aware DeNiro is 50% Irish, 25% Jewish, and 25% Italian. And that he has played all three enthnicities.

What I'm saying, is at any age ...
... DeNiro LOOKS NOTHING LIKE Frank Sheeran.
At all.
Pacino looks nothing like Jimmy Hoffa.
At all.

Movie was still good. Just saying.
Scorcece should cast with biological accuracy yo.

Seeing as the story was good but not Departed, Goodfellas, Casino level good, it was the ebst decision to cast Pacino and De Niro, that was the main draw for this being a 'must watch' for many, myself included.

They both did a great job in their respective roles, within the context of the film. Al was typical Al but he was a hoot and his hair still A-1

JohnnySic
11-30-2019, 11:35 AM
Casino sucked.

ArbitraryWater
11-30-2019, 12:13 PM
Sure it is not as entertaining as Casino.

If I were to watch one of them now I would choose Casino 99 out of a 100 because it is more entertaining.

The better movie though?

Goodfellas>The Departed>The Irishman>Casino

And that is a good company to be in. Great movie

what makes it the better movie TO YOU but less entertaining TO YOU?

BarberSchool
11-30-2019, 08:54 PM
Al was typical Al but he was a hoot and his hair still A-1You better walk fast past the S-Curl box isle next time my dude.
You boutta have an MF Doom accident yo.

warriorfan
12-01-2019, 06:49 AM
6/10

Al Pacino carried big time. Not just in his over the top classic Al Pacino moments but an all around great performance.

Boring, script had moments where it seemed off. I can’t put my finger on it but a lot of the scenes didn’t have a Hollywood feel even with the cast. It had its moments but not enough to carry it through the 3 hour run time. The betrayal of Jimmy Hoffa was good but then they had way too much time of DeNiro being a whiny bitch about it. Scorsese hammered the “all men no matter how powerful are mortal” theme too much at the end. It was a good touch but it ended up as 30 mins of DeNiro limping around. Could have been summed up better in one or two scenes.

dazzer87
12-01-2019, 02:40 PM
Masterpiece? Lol yeah.... 7/10 at best..... Joe Pesci was great.....CGI was very bad, some of the characters looked weird as fuvk. Movie was a bit too long, they couldve cut off the last 20 mins......Wish they had more scenes with Harvey Keitel.

Nanners
12-01-2019, 03:31 PM
this has to be one of the most overrated movies ive ever seen. lazy performances from almost everyone involved, and at least an hour longer than it shouldve been.

deniro was a terrible choice for frank. not only was he obviously mailing it in, but the de-aging did not work at all. having joe pesci call him "kid" when his face looks ~40-50 years old and his body moves like an 80 year old was laughably stupid. using cg to make an old actors face look younger is pointless if you dont have tech to make him move his body like a young man too. the scene where deniro stomps the grocer looked hilariously bad, it was so damn obvious that deniro is an old ass man under the cg.

Levity
12-02-2019, 01:53 PM
i legit thought deniro's leg was going to snap in half when he was stomping on that dude that shoved his daughter.

and when he walked over some rocks to throw his gun in the river... i was surprised they let him do a "stunt" that big. :lol

JohnnySic
12-02-2019, 02:12 PM
This anit-aging cgi stuff reminds me of the ani aging makeup that was used in a lot of movies in the early 90

TheMan
12-02-2019, 02:31 PM
this has to be one of the most overrated movies ive ever seen. lazy performances from almost everyone involved, and at least an hour longer than it shouldve been.

deniro was a terrible choice for frank. not only was he obviously mailing it in, but the de-aging did not work at all. having joe pesci call him "kid" when his face looks ~40-50 years old and his body moves like an 80 year old was laughably stupid. using cg to make an old actors face look younger is pointless if you dont have tech to make him move his body like a young man too. the scene where deniro stomps the grocer looked hilariously bad, it was so damn obvious that deniro is an old ass man under the cg.
This

Bobby looked frail af stomping on that grocer dude :lol

Should've used a younger stand in because he moved like a old man and not like the 30 something year old he was supossed to be portraying.

BarberSchool
12-06-2019, 04:16 AM
Biologically accurate casting is my favorite sh1t yo!

https://images.pristineauction.com/61/618325/main_1487977271-Tom-Cruise-Signed-The-Last-Samurai-11x14-Photo-JSA-COA-PristineAuction.com.jpg

BarberSchool
12-06-2019, 04:19 AM
This

Bobby looked frail af stomping on that grocer dude :lol

Should've used a younger stand in because he moved like a old man and not like the 30 something year old he was supossed to be portraying.yooooo I said the exact same sh!t, grocer dude also gave a poor postural and vocal offering.

If that was