1997 Bulls vs. Spurs DOUBLE OVERTIME - Jordan vs. Popovich & Duncan!

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhtKO9WhyB8

3rd game of the season.

Jordan with 29 pts 13 rebs, shot 31% but no Pippen and pulls out the win. BUZZER-BEATING 3 AT THE END OF REGULATION TO TIE IT UP FOR OT.

Rookie Duncan with 19 pts 22 rebs

Admiral 21 pts 12 rebs 6 ast 4 blk

Rodman also with 22 rebs.

Boxscore:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199711030CHI.html

Weak comp though..

[3ball]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhtKO9WhyB8

3rd game of the season.

Jordan with 29 pts 13 rebs, shot 31% but no Pippen and pulls out the win. BUZZER-BEATING 3 AT THE END OF REGULATION TO TIE IT UP FOR OT.

Rookie Duncan with 19 pts 22 rebs

Admiral 21 pts 12 rebs 6 ast 4 blk

Rodman also with 22 rebs.

Boxscore:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199711030CHI.html

Weak comp though..
So fitting that in his first meeting with Duncan/Popovich, MJ makes the three to force OT from the exact spot that Lebron missed and needed the lucky bounce to Ray ray

[Kblaze8855]

I figured this was a 3ball bump. I remember something about Jordan supposedly proving the value of volume shooting even when missing or.....something. Id have to google it for longer than I feel like.

[Manny98]

So fitting that in his first meeting with Duncan/Popovich, MJ makes the three to force OT from the exact spot that Lebron missed and needed the lucky bounce to Ray ray
MJ shot 12/39 that game :roll:

Thank god for Rodman gobbling up all of them bricks :applause:

[Smoke117]

29 points on 39 shots. :roll:

[3ball]

MJ shot 12/39 that game :roll:

Thank god for Rodman gobbling up all of them bricks :applause:
The Spurs had to expend energy defending MJ's attack, which wore them down enough that they couldn't mount a better attack themselves and run away with it - they remained in a dog fight despite having the bulls ridiculously outmanned ..

Simply put, MJ's volume set the pace of the game and ultimately helped the bulls win the attrition battle.. bulls would've been blown away if he took 17 shots like lebron's average in the 14' Finals, instead of a pace-setting 39.

Keep in mind that MJ was making like 7 to 12 field goals a game back-breaker style - so at the end of a bunch of ball movement, that's when MJ would make a drive or a play to score - that's because mj knew how to play without the ball and still score the most - this devasted defenses and took the starch out of teams..

otoh, Lebron has his dribbling, which results in stuff like a 92% unassisted rate on his buckets in the 4th quarter of the 11' ECF vs Bulls - so he was just taking it himself every time and not playing off teammates!... no wonder he lost the next round against real strategy, and also in 09'... :facepalm

That cp3-caliber skillset is so exploitable.. good thing Lebron team-hopped because I don't think it would've worked out naturally.. heck, maybe he's just a 1-time champ-caliber since the other 2 could've flipped on a lucky possession

[bigkingsfan]

Ordan living up to his name.

[3ball]

Ordan living up to his name.




Lebron bricked in the clutch and missed the walk-off attempt - he needed Ray Allen to save him:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-05-2015/XxRuyC.gif



Jordan MADE his walk-off attempt from the exact same spot in his first meeting against Duncan/Popovich to send the game into overtime:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-05-2015/rP-QUs.gif



After hitting the walk-off, MJ dominated overtime, including 2 dunks over Duncan:


https://media.giphy.com/media/26tn2Uph26JX7BeHS/giphy.gif



In his 2nd meeting against Duncan, MJ dominated Duncan even more thoroughly:


https://media.giphy.com/media/TbKAH5Pl5N91S/giphy.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/4-11-2015/cyFnUr.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/VgAj53MW9ee5O/giphy.gif


It's obvious that Jordan only ever DOMINATED Duncan and guys like Duncan - they weren't "rivals" like they are for Kobe and Lebron.. 6/6


In MJ's first meeting with Duncan on November 3, 1997, he hit the walk-off shot shown above to send the game into OT.. But it was his high volume (12-39 FG) that allowed the Bulls to control the pace and stay in the game up until that point - specifically, MJ's volume controlled pace and spearheaded the Bulls 26-12 edge on the offensive glass.. The 2nd chances contributed to the Bulls higher offensive rating for the game (85.4 to 81.5).. With MJ's volume keeping the Bulls in the game, the opportunity was there at the end to force overtime and steal the game.

MJ's volume also took defensive attention away from teammates, allowing Kerr, Kukoc, and Longley to have big games.. Sufficient contributions from the supporting cast was necessary since MJ didn't have Scottie for this game (injury) once again (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367910) - which was nothing new - actually, it was Phil Jackson's everyday game plan to have the team 'leave Michael alone' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=30m20s) down the stretch of games so he could do everything all by himself.. So this was far from the last time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qeGR96SGzA) MJ would have to carry Pippen.

MJ's high-volume approach was a stark contrast to how Lebron attacks a defense.. Lebron employs a lower-volume approach, which necessitates bigger performances from teammates to keep up with the other team.. But this passive approach doesn't attract sufficient defensive attention away from teammates for these big performances to even be possible - see the 2014 Finals.

The 2014 Finals not only showed how a passive, low-volume approach allows a defense to stay at home on teammates and shut them down, but it demonstrated how unlikely the approach has of succeeding to begin with: In 21 out of the 25 years since 1991, the team leader in shot attempts on the Finals-winning team took more than 25.56% of the team's shots - so the load Lebron undertook in the 2014 Finals (25.56% of his team's shots) was not a large load, and the notion that he couldn't have done more, or that no one else would've done more, is simply wrong - 21 out of the last 25 did more.

[Vino24]

LeBron>>>MJ

[bigkingsfan]

Lebron bricked in the clutch and missed the walk-off attempt - he needed Ray Allen to save him:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-05-2015/XxRuyC.gif



Jordan MADE his walk-off attempt from the exact same spot in his first meeting against Duncan/Popovich to send the game into overtime:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-05-2015/rP-QUs.gif



After hitting the walk-off, MJ dominated overtime, including 2 dunks over Duncan:


https://media.giphy.com/media/26tn2Uph26JX7BeHS/giphy.gif



In his 2nd meeting against Duncan, MJ dominated Duncan even more thoroughly:


https://media.giphy.com/media/TbKAH5Pl5N91S/giphy.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/4-11-2015/cyFnUr.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/VgAj53MW9ee5O/giphy.gif


It's obvious that Jordan only ever DOMINATED Duncan and guys like Duncan - they weren't "rivals" like they are for Kobe and Lebron.. 6/6


In MJ's first meeting with Duncan on November 3, 1997, he hit the walk-off shot shown above to send the game into OT.. But it was his high volume (12-39 FG) that allowed the Bulls to control the pace and stay in the game up until that point - specifically, MJ's volume controlled pace and spearheaded the Bulls 26-12 edge on the offensive glass.. The 2nd chances contributed to the Bulls higher offensive rating for the game (85.4 to 81.5).. With MJ's volume keeping the Bulls in the game, the opportunity was there at the end to force overtime and steal the game.

MJ's volume also took defensive attention away from teammates, allowing Kerr, Kukoc, and Longley to have big games.. Sufficient contributions from the supporting cast was necessary since MJ didn't have Scottie for this game (injury) once again (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367910) - which was nothing new - actually, it was Phil Jackson's everyday game plan to have the team 'leave Michael alone' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=30m20s) down the stretch of games so he could do everything all by himself.. So this was far from the last time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qeGR96SGzA) MJ would have to carry Pippen.

MJ's high-volume approach was a stark contrast to how Lebron attacks a defense.. Lebron employs a lower-volume approach, which necessitates bigger performances from teammates to keep up with the other team.. But this passive approach doesn't attract sufficient defensive attention away from teammates for these big performances to even be possible - see the 2014 Finals.

The 2014 Finals not only showed how a passive, low-volume approach allows a defense to stay at home on teammates and shut them down, but it demonstrated how unlikely the approach has of succeeding to begin with: In 21 out of the 25 years since 1991, the team leader in shot attempts on the Finals-winning team took more than 25.56% of the team's shots - so the load Lebron undertook in the 2014 Finals (25.56% of his team's shots) was not a large load, and the notion that he couldn't have done more, or that no one else would've done more, is simply wrong - 21 out of the last 25 did more.
Ordan shot 12/39

[GimmeThat]

Dennis Rodman Ast/TO ratio for the 96/97 season? 3.2/2.0

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron bricked in the clutch and missed the walk-off attempt - he needed Ray Allen to save him:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-05-2015/XxRuyC.gif



Jordan MADE his walk-off attempt from the exact same spot in his first meeting against Duncan/Popovich to send the game into overtime:


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-05-2015/rP-QUs.gif



After hitting the walk-off, MJ dominated overtime, including 2 dunks over Duncan:


https://media.giphy.com/media/26tn2Uph26JX7BeHS/giphy.gif



In his 2nd meeting against Duncan, MJ dominated Duncan even more thoroughly:


https://media.giphy.com/media/TbKAH5Pl5N91S/giphy.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/4-11-2015/cyFnUr.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/VgAj53MW9ee5O/giphy.gif


It's obvious that Jordan only ever DOMINATED Duncan and guys like Duncan - they weren't "rivals" like they are for Kobe and Lebron.. 6/6


In MJ's first meeting with Duncan on November 3, 1997, he hit the walk-off shot shown above to send the game into OT.. But it was his high volume (12-39 FG) that allowed the Bulls to control the pace and stay in the game up until that point - specifically, MJ's volume controlled pace and spearheaded the Bulls 26-12 edge on the offensive glass.. The 2nd chances contributed to the Bulls higher offensive rating for the game (85.4 to 81.5).. With MJ's volume keeping the Bulls in the game, the opportunity was there at the end to force overtime and steal the game.

MJ's volume also took defensive attention away from teammates, allowing Kerr, Kukoc, and Longley to have big games.. Sufficient contributions from the supporting cast was necessary since MJ didn't have Scottie for this game (injury) once again (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367910) - which was nothing new - actually, it was Phil Jackson's everyday game plan to have the team 'leave Michael alone' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOgJhzj4W9M&t=30m20s) down the stretch of games so he could do everything all by himself.. So this was far from the last time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qeGR96SGzA) MJ would have to carry Pippen.

MJ's high-volume approach was a stark contrast to how Lebron attacks a defense.. Lebron employs a lower-volume approach, which necessitates bigger performances from teammates to keep up with the other team.. But this passive approach doesn't attract sufficient defensive attention away from teammates for these big performances to even be possible - see the 2014 Finals.

The 2014 Finals not only showed how a passive, low-volume approach allows a defense to stay at home on teammates and shut them down, but it demonstrated how unlikely the approach has of succeeding to begin with: In 21 out of the 25 years since 1991, the team leader in shot attempts on the Finals-winning team took more than 25.56% of the team's shots - so the load Lebron undertook in the 2014 Finals (25.56% of his team's shots) was not a large load, and the notion that he couldn't have done more, or that no one else would've done more, is simply wrong - 21 out of the last 25 did more.
Ordan shot 12/39

[RRR3]

12/39 :roll: :roll: :roll:

[3ball]

12-39


The Spurs had to expend energy defending MJ's attack, which wore them down enough that they couldn't mount a better attack themselves and run away with it

So MJ's volume set the pace of the game and the bulls would've been blown away if he took 17 shots like lebron's average in the 14' Finals, instead of a pace-setting 39.

Keep in mind that MJ was making like 7 to 12 field goals a game back-breaker style - so at the end of a bunch of ball movement, that's when MJ would make a drive or a play to score - that's because mj knew how to play without the ball and still score the most - this devasted defenses and took the starch out of teams..

otoh, Lebron has his dribbling, which results in stuff like a 92% unassisted rate on his buckets in the 4th quarter of the 11' ECF vs Bulls - so he was just taking it himself every time and not playing off teammates!... no wonder he lost the next round against real strategy, and also in 09'... :facepalm

That cp3-caliber skillset is so exploitable.. good thing Lebron team-hopped because I don't think it would've worked out naturally.. heck, maybe he's just a 1-time champ-caliber since the other 2 could've flipped on a lucky possession[/QUOTE]

[Turbo Slayer]

12-39 :roll: :roll: :roll:

[ImKobe]

MJ shot 12/39 that game :roll:

Thank god for Rodman gobbling up all of them bricks :applause:

Rodman shot 1/10, it's likely he rebounded some of his own bricks as well :lol

[3ball]

12-39 :roll: :roll: :roll:
Lebron shot 11-35 in Game 2 of the 2015 Finals and won controlling pace the same way MJ did vs the Spurs

High volume with low efficiency and high oreb is a way to win when you're undermanned - defending high volume from a star keeps it close and is better than defending nothing (low volume) and running away with the game (14' Finals)