Kobe was one of the few handful of players in history who....

[superduper]

...had the IQ and game sense and have the foresight to be able to make this kind of a pass to the cutter while being a 30ppg scoring threat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA3r3bjBRWg

As soon as he got the ball in the back court he already decided exactly how that play was going to unfold. He had the attention and resistence of 4 defenders but decided they didn't matter.

None of the top players in the league today other than Bran have the game sense to make this kind of a play. Not Harden. Not Kawhi. Not Durant.

People need to check themselves before disrespecting Kobe with these current players.

[ImKobe]

Not to mention him getting the ball to Fisher for the game-winner in OT.

[imdaman99]

I have to question his throwing a behind the back no look at such a huge moment in the game, but that's what makes him Kobe and not Curry, who threw it out of bounds.

[3ball]

Great jumpshooters like Kobe command a different level of defensive attention because if he hits 2 or 3 jumpers in a row, his team gets juiced and win the quarter going away

So obviously defenses meet Kobe at the rim with multiple defenders like all penetrators, but they must also double him on the perimeter to get the ball out of his hands (the only way to stop a hot jumper)

Players that don't get hot from the perimeter get single-covered - the defense stays at home on teammates and has less adjustments in general - Kobe's game wasn't exploitable in this fashion

And as the video shows, Kobe is the most dynamic scorer the game has ever seen, aside from 87-90' MJ.

[AirBonner]

That

[Vino24]

Witnessing Kobe pass at all was a special/rare event. Good find op :cheers:

[Keno]

once in a blue moon pass by kobe, impressive stuff!

this is your typical kobe play that we all love him for, spectacular player! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMGEViYqVUo

[Manny98]

Kobe was a better passer than MJ I give him that :applause:

[Uncle Drew]

Seeing OP hype this up I thought I was about to see Kobe make a pass while jumping on the backboard, throwing it off someone in the stands, via the scorers table and the jumbotron right on the money for a Fisher 3. Turns out it was just an above average handoff.

Please don't open threads again, your content's shit. Right on par with Rose's backscratch.

[G0ATbe]

once in a blue moon pass by kobe, impressive stuff!

this is your typical kobe play that we all love him for, spectacular player! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMGEViYqVUo
Killer instink, clutch jeans, momba mentality:bowdown:

[Turbo Slayer]

Killer instink, clutch jeans, momba mentality:bowdown:
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the rewording of tho

[ImKobe]

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[Turbo Slayer]

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:rockon: This dude not human. :biggums:

[3ball]

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can people really say that if Kobe played PG like Lebron, he wouldn't have the same assists and "westbrooking" kind of stats??

Of course he would

But he wanted to win....

And a 30/5/5 stat profile (a focus on timely scoring without hurting teammates) is a better winning profile then 27/7/7 (trying to do everything/stepping on teammates toes/less timely scoring)

[superduper]

Seeing OP hype this up I thought I was about to see Kobe make a pass while jumping on the backboard, throwing it off someone in the stands, via the scorers table and the jumbotron right on the money for a Fisher 3. Turns out it was just an above average handoff.

Please don't open threads again, your content's shit. Right on par with Rose's backscratch.

Nomination for cringiest comments in ISH history

[SpaceJam]

Kobe was one of the few handful of players in history who....gets first option credit from his stans for second option rings.

[egokiller]

The thing with kobe is that he threw these passes during typical offensive motion and didn

[ImKobe]

Kobe was one of the few handful of players in history who....gets first option credit from his stans for second option rings.

Second options lead their teams in shots and assists :rolleyes:

[SpaceJam]

Second options lead their teams in shots and assists :rolleyes:

Excuse me? Kobe didn

[superduper]

Kobe was one of the few handful of players in history who....gets first option credit from his stans for second option rings.

Kobe was the leading playmaker and assist leader for 5 title runs.

It's as simple as that Brannie.

[Smoke117]

Second options lead their teams in shots and assists :rolleyes:

LMFAO...are you trying to argue Kobe was the first option because he brought the ball up and chucked at will instead of pass it down to Shaq? In 2001 Shaq averaged 28.7ppg to Kobe's 28.5ppg while taking three less shots a game. In 2002 27.2ppg to 25.2ppg while taking 2 less shots. Kobe being a selfish chucker doesn't make him the first option, sweetheart.

[RRR3]

LMFAO...are you trying to argue Kobe was the first option because he brought the ball up and chucked at will instead of pass it down to Shaq? In 2001 Shaq averaged 28.7ppg to Kobe's 28.5ppg while taking three less shots a game. In 2002 27.2ppg to 25.2ppg while taking 2 less shots. Kobe being a selfish chucker doesn't make him the first option, sweetheart.
Dude legit has tried to imply that Kobe is top 3 or even arguably the GOAT.

[Smoke117]

Dude legit has tried to imply that Kobe is top 3 or even arguably the GOAT.

Reality has always been a foreign concept to the Kobe stan. As I said before, if you go by actual impact, Kobe isn't even close to top ten.

[AirBonner]

If Kobe is top 3 with only 2 fmvps what is Shaq with 3 fmvps?

[RRR3]

Reality has always been a foreign concept to the Kobe stan. As I said before, if you go by actual impact, Kobe isn't even close to top ten.
They’re particularly bad at understanding nuance. In their minds, Kobe MUST be more impactful than LeBron or Shaq because he has more rings (ignoring Shaq was the best player on Kobe’s team for 3 of those rings and that LeBron was clear the best player on his team for all of his). They can’t understand how someone more impactful could wind up with less rings.

[superduper]

Nobody can refute the main point in the OP which is:


None of the top players in the league today other than Bran have the game sense to make this kind of a play. Not Harden. Not Kawhi. Not Durant.

Truth stay winning :rockon:

[Keno]

Nobody can refute the main point in the OP which is:



Truth stay winning :rockon:

it's a basic play that even kemba walker has pulled off, don't get your panties in a bunch. :oldlol:

[SpaceJam]

LMFAO...are you trying to argue Kobe was the first option because he brought the ball up and chucked at will instead of pass it down to Shaq? In 2001 Shaq averaged 28.7ppg to Kobe's 28.5ppg while taking three less shots a game. In 2002 27.2ppg to 25.2ppg while taking 2 less shots. Kobe being a selfish chucker doesn't make him the first option, sweetheart.

Tell us the PPG difference in 2000 please!

[LoneyROY7]

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Kobe Bean Bryant is a f*cking legend.

I literally started watching basketball just as this man was hitting his peak. I'm very thankful my early basketball days were blessed by being able to witness this genius at his best.

Thank you Kobe.

[MrFonzworth]

Agreed. Plays like these are why he's a somewhat arguable fringe top 10 player of all time.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Kobe is the consensus 12th greatest player of all time, nothing will change this.

[ImKobe]

LMFAO...are you trying to argue Kobe was the first option because he brought the ball up and chucked at will instead of pass it down to Shaq? In 2001 Shaq averaged 28.7ppg to Kobe's 28.5ppg while taking three less shots a game. In 2002 27.2ppg to 25.2ppg while taking 2 less shots. Kobe being a selfish chucker doesn't make him the first option, sweetheart.

Kobe was a first option because he both ran the offense and took about as many shots as Shaq.

What do you think FIRST OPTION means?

Kobe runs the offense, takes the most shots and closes/takes over games late in the 4th quarter, what is that if not a first option player? Shaq might have averaged more points because he was a cheat code and because defenses hacked him due to his bad FT shooting but telling me that Kobe had a lesser role on offense in 01 and 02 is just being dishonest. Look at the 2001 and 2002 title runs. Kobe averages more points against the stronger Western Conference teams while Shaq feasts on mediocre Finals opponents who they beat rather easily. When it came down to beating Duncan and Pop it was Kobe who led the way. Please stop trying to act like KB was a Pippen. Him and Shaq were 1a/1b players, one or the other would carry the scoring load on offense depending on their match-ups. Kobe was fine with letting Shaq dominate weak Finals opponents and Shaq was fine with Kobe dominating the Spurs.

Second options don't lead their teams in scoring and assists through the first 3 rounds of the Playoffs. Kobe was the better player in 3 out of 4 series in 2001 and they were about even through the WC Playoffs in 2002. That's 1a/1b. I don't think I ever said that Shaq was a clear 2nd option either, if I led you to believe that I'm sorry but they both played at First Option level. Kobe did more on offense but Shaq was more efficient at scoring yet limited at the same time. 2001 Kobe averaged 31.2 ppg to Shaq's 29.3 through the first 3 rounds, 2002 Kobe averaged 26.6 ppg to Shaq's 26.4 ppg through the WC Playoffs. those are clearly not role player rings. 2001 and 2002 Kobe averaged more points for a title run than 2013 and 2016 Lebron. 2001 Kobe put up more points, rebounds and assists per game than 2006 Wade in the Playoffs. 2001 Kobe averaged more points than Steph or KD in any of their title runs.

What's so hard to understand here?

[superduper]

it's a basic play that even kemba walker has pulled off, don't get your panties in a bunch. :oldlol:

This is why no one takes Kobe haters seriously :oldlol:

[LAmbruh]

OP getting absolutely eviscerated :oldlol: