The GOAT ring?

[Turbo Slayer]

:confusedshrug:

[superduper]

Dirk 2011

[Turbo Slayer]

Gotta be 2016. :bowdown:

[Turbo Slayer]

Dirk 2011
2011 was forgotten easily. We need rings that will stay relevant for the next 50 years.

[Dr Hawk]

Hakeem 94 or 95.

[superduper]

2011 was forgotten easily. We need rings that will stay relevant for the next 50 years.

Bran stans wish 2011 was forgotten, ain't no Brannie forgetting that :roll:

Easily GOAT ring :bowdown:

[Turbo Slayer]

Hakeem 94 or 95.
Eh not that impressive. If he FACED Michael Jordan for a quest at a ring, then it would have been impressive IMO.

:no:

[Turbo Slayer]

Bran stans wish 2011 was forgotten, ain't no Brannie forgetting that :roll:

Easily GOAT ring :bowdown:

So what? LeGOAT won 2012 and 2013. Arguably 2011 made him a better player. So wrong again, player. :pimp:

[SouBeachTalents]

Eh not that impressive. If he FACED Michael Jordan for a quest at a ring, then it would have been impressive IMO.

:no:
Yep, beating

Malone/Stockton
Barkley/KJ
Robinson
Shaq/Penny

all on the road while averaging 33/10/5, not that impressive.

Ditto leading the Rockets in points/rebounds/assists/steals/blocks and carrying arguably the worst championship roster to a title the year before

[Turbo Slayer]

Yep, beating

Malone/Stockton
Barkley/KJ
Robinson
Shaq/Penny

all on the road while averaging 33/10/5, not that impressive.

Ditto leading the Rockets in points/rebounds/assists/steals/blocks and carrying arguably the worst championship roster to a title the year before

Wow, nvm. Hakeem's run is impressive. :biggums: Never watched 90's becuase I'm 14. But still. WTH!?!

Amazing. :bowdown:

[Manny98]

2016

[Turbo Slayer]

2016
:cheers: agreed

[Vino24]

2016 easily

[FultzNationRISE]

Tis the one that was won in the year of our Lord, two thousand sixteen, anno domini.

[3ball]

Dirk 2011
Dirk faced a 2-star deficit and won, so he overcame a lot

Lebron didn't face a talent deficit in 2016, and therefore didn't overcome anything, except underdog status from winning only 57 games instead of 70+ like Curry did

Also, MJ had the goat clutch series in 1998, where he overcame something that Shaq, Hakeem, and Duncan couldn't that year - the Jazz - and he did it with Rodman benched and Pippen injured for the last 2 games

[AirBonner]

Dirk faced a 2-star deficit and won, so he overcame a lot

Lebron didn't face a talent deficit in 2016, and therefore didn't overcome anything, except underdog status from winning only 57 games instead of 70+ like Curry did

Also, MJ had the goat clutch series in 1998, where he overcame something that Shaq, Hakeem, and Duncan couldn't that year - the Jazz - and he did it with Rodman benched and Pippen injured for the last 2 games
Kobe got swept by the same team. Terry and JJ were better than Pippen

[PeroAntic]

Gotta be Pistons 2004.

[3ball]

.
Stats don't matter when we're talking about the best win


https://images.solecollector.com/complex/image/upload/d8g3a56voke8uvossap7.jpg


^^^ Shot clock says it all

[SouBeachTalents]

.
Stats don't matter when we're talking about the best win


https://images.solecollector.com/complex/image/upload/d8g3a56voke8uvossap7.jpg


^^^ Shot clock says it all
2016 Game 7 >

[AirBonner]

.
Stats don't matter when we're talking about the best win


https://images.solecollector.com/complex/image/upload/d8g3a56voke8uvossap7.jpg


^^^ Shot clock says it all
Wide open shot. But but 90

[scuzzy]

2016 obv

[egokiller]

2016? When Lebron had a block and a FT in the last 4 min and watched Kyrie do what he is incapable of? :roll:

Naw, 2011 was much better.

[3ball]

2016 Game 7 >
Kyrie's shot was amazing, but it was just 1 play

Show me a player that made more monumental plays in the last minute then this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=530z-_yjdlU&t=05m59s


The greatest clutch the game has ever seen .. Goat gonna goat .. :confusedshrug:

[AirBonner]

Kyrie's shot was amazing, but it was just 1 play

Show me a player that made more monumental plays in the last minute then this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=530z-_yjdlU&t=05m59s


The greatest clutch the game has ever seen .. Goat gonna goat .. :confusedshrug:
LeBron blocking Curry and Draymond (essentially making them afraid of the paint) was the goat play

[3ball]

LeBron blocking Curry and Draymond (essentially making them afraid of the paint) was the goat play
A block is never better than a GW to win the championship

And MJ had the goat steal that proceeded his goat GW


goat GW > goat block

goat GW + goat steal > goat block

goat GW + goat steal + goat 2-for-1 > goat block


But carry on

[AirBonner]

A block is never better than a GW to win the championship

And MJ had the goat steal that proceeded his goat GW


goat GW > goat block

goat GW + goat steal > goat block

goat GW + goat steal + goat 2-for-1 > goat block


But carry on
False LeBron took away 4pts and possibly more by instilling fear in the opponent

[bigkingsfan]

2016, people are still melting down.

[Turbo Slayer]

2016 obv
:applause:

[Turbo Slayer]

2016, people are still melting down.:roll:

[RoseCity07]

Gotta be 2016. Beating a 73 win team after being down 3-1. That is worth 15 rings.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[3ball]

False LeBron took away 4pts and possibly more by instilling fear in the opponent
You think players get intimidated by being blocked?

Curry has been blocked many times by much bigger guys than LeBron

And no one would ever be intimidated by Lebron because they know his soft guy nature (scared to fight; frequently gets punked and does nothing)

But I suppose if Lebron was capable of intimidating someone, it would be a spoiled athlete's kids who can barely dunk and get hurt trying

Otoh, try instilling fear in Karl Malone, Antoine Carr or a couple old-school, cornfed whiteboys (Stockton/Ostertag).. It's a lot harder... The Jazz were much bigger and physically superior than the Warriors

Now look how MJ instilled fear in the whole building - that picture shows fans and players literally biting their fingernails as MJ sized up Russell for the last shot

[3ball]

Gotta be 2016. Beating a 73 win team after being down 3-1. That is worth 15 rings.

:bowdown: :bowdown:
Dwight beat a 66 win team, so by your logic he's better than MJ and won a better series than MJ ever won

But carry on.... I guess you gotta cling to something... :yaohappy:

[Nashty]

1969. Holding Wilt to 12 points on 50% from the field, and winning against Wilt, West and Baylor. Simply the G.O.A.T.

[Turbo Slayer]

Gotta be 2016. Beating a 73 win team after being down 3-1. That is worth 15 rings.

:bowdown: :bowdown:

:rockon:

LeGawD

[3ball]

Godbe is better than Ordan. Sit down boy.

1-9. :lol
Only the night he dropped 55 on the Wizards and MJ couldn't respond in kind

And that time he went back door on MJ as a teenager and smashed with 2-hands as MJ flew by.. and then the Nique-style windmill as MJ/Pip watched in competitive admiration from the bench

So Godbe has great power and rose above MJ at times... But it was MJ's higher level that he was always reaching for - whereas MJ stayed at that level (it was HIS level), and was therefore better the vast majority of the time

[SamuraiSWISH]

Jason Terry 2011 w/ Dirk with old white or mixed plumbers like Kidd, Marion, and midget JJ Barrea

Curb stomping an in their prime Wade, LeBron and Bosh.

:eek:

[AirBonner]

Jason Terry 2011 w/ Dirk with old white or mixed plumbers like Kidd, Marion, and midget JJ Barrea

Curb stomping an in their prime Wade, LeBron and Bosh.

:eek:
And swept prime Kobe and Pau

[Turbo Slayer]

And swept prime Kobe and Pau
:roll:

[Nashty]

And swept prime Kobe and Pau

Because Terry > Carriedbe

[LAmbruh]

And swept prime Kobe and Pau
:oldlol: :roll:

[3ball]

1969. Holding Wilt to 12 points on 50% from the field, and winning against Wilt, West and Baylor. Simply the G.O.A.T.
Great find, and that's certainly goat....... of 2-pointer basketball

2-pointer basketball lacked the spacing for open shots, good efficiencies, and good team offense, so a 1-way defender like Russell could dominate and win the most

But since 3-pointer basketball began in 1980, all 40 MVP's have been dominant offensive players - so we know Russell wouldn't be MVP-caliber in the modern era... Instead, it's the goat scorer and efficiency rating leader that has the most rings in the modern era as "the man" (6 FMVP... 2nd place has only 3)

[AirBonner]

Great find, and that's certainly goat....... of 2-pointer basketball

2-pointer basketball lacked the spacing for open shots, good efficiencies, and good team offense, so a 1-way defender like Russell could dominate and win the most

But since 3-pointer basketball began in 1980, all 40 MVP's have been dominant offensive players - so we know Russell wouldn't be MVP-caliber in the modern era... Instead, it's the goat scorer and efficiency rating leader that has the most rings in the modern era as "the man" (6 FMVP... 2nd place has only 3)
The thing is Wilt at worse was an equal to Russell and Russell beat his ass all the time. MJ never faced a player on his level. MJ had weak competition

[SamuraiSWISH]

And swept prime Kobe and Pau
That

[3ball]

The thing is Wilt at worse was an equal to Russell and Russell beat his ass all the time. MJ never faced a player on his level. MJ had weak competition
Magic and Shaq are both ranked higher than Wilt and MJ beat the dogshit out of them

[Turbo Slayer]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]That

[Nashty]

Great find, and that's certainly goat....... of 2-pointer basketball

2-pointer basketball lacked the spacing for open shots, good efficiencies, and good team offense, so a 1-way defender like Russell could dominate and win the most

But since 3-pointer basketball began in 1980, all 40 MVP's have been dominant offensive players - so we know Russell wouldn't be MVP-caliber in the modern era... Instead, it's the goat scorer and efficiency rating leader that has the most rings in the modern era as "the man" (6 FMVP... 2nd place has only 3)

I think Russell would be great in todays NBA too, he was athletic, he could run the floor, he had solid handles too, and was a good passer, and could guard the perimeter guys to some extent. He would average 15-15-7-2-2 with winning DPOY every year in this era easily.

[SouBeachTalents]

Magic and Shaq are both ranked higher than Wilt and MJ beat the dogshit out of them
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13750607&postcount=11

[Turbo Slayer]

Magic and Shaq are both ranked higher than Wilt and MJ beat the dogshit out of them Magic was declining at that point. :lol

[AirBonner]

Magic and Shaq are both ranked higher than Wilt and MJ beat the dogshit out of them
You ranked Wilt 2nd on the GOAT list

[AirBonner]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13750607&postcount=11
Boom :oldlol:

[Turbo Slayer]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13750607&postcount=11
:roll: 3ball ranked Wilt as #2 than those 2 guys. Bruh. Tears, fam. :lol

Gotta see this link, people.

[Dragonyeuw]

:oldlol:

I see in the last week since moving to Europe, the same dumb shit is being argued.

Never change ISH.

[Doranku]

:oldlol:

I see in the last week since moving to Europe, the same dumb shit is being argued.

Never change ISH.

The arguments on this forum have been the same for over a decade now. :lol

[3ball]

:no: 2011 made LeGOAT a better player. Dominated this league until now. :bowdown:

SamuraiSWISH, keep hating on greatness. It won't get you anywhere.
As part of your maturity process from a 14-year old whippersnapper into a grown man, you need to learn to accept certain truths

So if a guy loses while shooting 35%, then he was a big reason for the loss (2007)... :confusedshrug:

Or if a guy has the goat choke (2011)...

Or if the guy shoots 39% and let's an 8 ppg bench player double his scoring average and win FMVP...

Or if the guy only takes 17 shots per game (2014) - keep in mind that he took 34 shots in 2015 and fared much better against a better team - so he wins in 2014 if he took 34 shots, given his better teammates that year...

Or if he gives up 36 on 56% to his man (2017).. Or if he defers in Game 1 with 10 seconds left, instead of hitting the winner and intimidating/setting the tone for the series (2018)

So Lebron deserves some blame for every loss.. it would hasten your maturation process to accept these truths

[Prometheus]

2016 is the best I have seen

2013 and 2011 are close behind

2014 greatest redemption
2004 greatest shocking upset

1998 most iconic

1991 most individually impressive

...

as for those before I was born

...

1980 is obviously pretty special

and 1969 might be the most legendary of all

[3ball]

Magic was declining at that point. :lol


Magic was runner up for MVP in 1991





You ranked Wilt #2


That was an old ranking.. i've since ranked the goat perimeter players over the goat bigs because bigs generally need more help

[AirBonner]

Magic was runner up for MVP in 1991



That was an old ranking.. i've since ranked the goat perimeter players over the goat bigs because bigs generally need more help
Just like MJ molded Pippen we molded you :pimp:

[SouBeachTalents]

Magic was runner up for MVP in 1991



That was an old ranking.. i've since ranked the goat perimeter players over the goat bigs because bigs generally need more help
Nikka that ranking was from 4 months ago :oldlol:

[Turbo Slayer]

Nikka that ranking was from 4 months ago :oldlol:
:oldlol:

[3ball]

Nikka that ranking was from 4 months ago :oldlol:
And a thousand posts ago

4 months is a long time for ISH regs, who challenge the status quo and therefore are continuously enlightened to greater heights.. :cheers:

[Turbo Slayer]

Anyone like my new avatar? Looks cool to me. :banana:

[Prometheus]

And a thousand posts ago

4 months is a long time for ISH regs, who challenge the status quo and therefore are continuously enlightened to greater heights.. :cheers:

But you changed your opinion of a man who retired nearly fifty years ago. If you can do that for the man you ranked SECOND out of everyone ever, then your opinions on player rankings are worth very little.

The only other option is that you were lying either then or now, in which case your opinions (as stated at least) are worth even less, as they could all be lies.

Either way, you lose. Cheers :cheers:

[Turbo Slayer]

But you changed your opinion of a man who retired nearly fifty years ago. If you can do that for the man you ranked SECOND out of everyone ever, then your opinions on player rankings are worth very little.

The only other option is that you were lying either then or now, in which case your opinions (as stated at least) are worth even less, as they could all be lies.

Either way, you lose. Cheers :cheers::banana:

[Dragonyeuw]

The arguments on this forum have been the same for over a decade now. :lol

I know lol. It's just funny how frenetic my last week has been, I take a quick moment to tap in here to see what's going on and....:rolleyes:

I shouldn't be surprised, of course.

[3ball]

But you changed your opinion of a man who retired nearly fifty years ago. If you can do that for the man you ranked SECOND out of everyone ever, then your opinions on player rankings are worth very little.

The only other option is that you were lying either then or now, in which case your opinions (as stated at least) are worth even less, as they could all be lies.

Either way, you lose. Cheers :cheers:
It's fine because rankings are always fluid and should change based on new info

And I'd evolved on the issue - I realized that Shaq needed peak Penny, Kobe and Wade, whereas Kobe only needed Pau... Kareem needed 9 all-star teammates and MJ needed 1... And on and on.... Bigs generally need more help than goat perimeter players, so I changed the rankings based on that

[SamuraiSWISH]

It's fine because rankings are always fluid and should change based on new info

And I'd evolved on the issue - I realized that Shaq needed peak Penny, Kobe and Wade, whereas Kobe only needed Pau... Kareem needed 9 all-star teammates and MJ needed 1... And on and on.... Bigs generally need more help than goat perimeter players, so I changed the rankings based on that
:applause:

[TheMan]

2004 Pistons, came out of nowhere...

Lakers were coming off a threepeat, added Karl Malone and Gary Payton to go with prime Shaq and Kobe :eek:

2016 Warriors almost lost to OKC, they were regular season GOATs but vulnerable in the postseason.

[Rico2016]

2016 is unbeatable


Down 3-1
73 win record setting team
CLE hadn't won a chip in 55 years
Leading all players in all categories
Dragging two career playoff losers (Kyrie, Love)
Against 1st and only unanimous MVP

Not beatable

[Rico2016]

Dirk faced a 2-star deficit and won, so he overcame a lot

Lebron didn't face a talent deficit in 2016, and therefore didn't overcome anything, except underdog status from winning only 57 games instead of 70+ like Curry did

Also, MJ had the goat clutch series in 1998, where he overcame something that Shaq, Hakeem, and Duncan couldn't that year - the Jazz - and he did it with Rodman benched and Pippen injured for the last 2 games


*yawn

So sorry Mike's rings don't even come close to GOAT discussion.

[bigkingsfan]

Lakers were coming off a threepeat, added Karl Malone and Gary Payton to go with prime Shaq and Kobe :eek:

LOL nope...

[Rico2016]

LOL nope...


TheMan doesnt even watch ball obviously. I guess he forgot about the 2003 Spurs all together and rewrote history in his tiny mind.

[LAmbruh]

2004 Pistons, came out of nowhere...

Lakers were coming off a threepeat, added Karl Malone and Gary Payton to go with prime Shaq and Kobe :eek:

yikes :roll:

[Rico2016]

yikes :roll:


TheMan can't count so good it appears

[TheMan]

yikes :roll:
Lol, forgot all about the forgetful Spurs Nets Finals in 2003 :lol

[TheMan]

TheMan can't count so good it appears
I'll admit it, after my Bulls were dismantled, stopped watching the NBA for a while, especially when the Lakers got in their run, living in the LA area during that time, absolutely hated the Lakers...and that Spurs vs Nets Finals were the lowest rated Finals IIRC, I'll admit I didn't watch a minute of that series. :lol

[TheMan]

2016 is unbeatable


Down 3-1
73 win record setting team
CLE hadn't won a chip in 55 years
Leading all players in all categories
Dragging two career playoff losers (Kyrie, Love)
Against 1st and only unanimous MVP

Not beatable
Sounds nice but OKC were up 3-1 in the WCFs before they shit the bed...doesn't sound like an unbeatable team to me :confusedshrug:

[Duncan21formvp]

MJ 1991 (beat peak Ewing, Barkley, Isiah, Magic/Worthy in showtime), Dirk 2011 (beat Roy, Kobe/Gasol, KD/Westbrook, Lebron/Wade/Bosh), Duncan 2003 (beat 3x champs in Kobe/Shaq, Dirk, Kidd)

[Rico2016]

2016 is unbeatable


Down 3-1
73 win record setting team
CLE hadn't won a chip in 55 years
Leading all players in all categories
Dragging two career playoff losers (Kyrie, Love)
Against 1st and only unanimous MVP

Not beatable

Is this thing on?

[Young X]

Hakeem in 1994.

[ClipperRevival]

Hakeem in 1994.

So Hakeem beat Drexer's Blazers, Barkley's Suns, Malone/Stockton's Jazz and Ewing's Knicks?

While Bron beat Marcus Morris' Pistons, Millsap's Hawks and DeFrozan's Raptors?

:yaohappy:

[LAmbruh]

looks like 2016 takes this one by a consensus landslide

[DoctorP]

if the suspensions didnt happen id give it to 2016 but i think 2013 takes the cake. a clean 7 game series could have went either way but Pop Fd it up by taking out Duncan.

Not GOAT cause the whole concept of GOAT is dumb but def best of the 2010s maybe 2000s

Thats for Finals.

For entire playoff run its either Dirk's Mavs or Hakeem's Rockets

[Gougou]

2019 ring, Kawhi himself carried a bunch of role player into the NBA finals beating a stacked 76ers team, and a Bucks team most people think they are going to win the championship. Then in the NBA finals they beat a stacked Warriors team aswell, even if the Warriors team had injuries they were still the favorite.

(Just kidding, 2016 is the GOAT impressive ring. but 2019 ring is quite good aswell)

[Uncle Drew]

This thread is hilarious. We all know it's 2016, everybody in the world knows that. But we got some insecure bitches in this place who would kill themselves before admitting to such. Thank you for making our championship, the greatest in the history of sports, even better which each day.

[305Baller]

This thread is hilarious. We all know it's 2016, everybody in the world knows that. But we got some insecure bitches in this place who would kill themselves before admitting to such. Thank you for making our championship, the greatest in the history of sports, even better which each day.

:lol

if that keeps you from committing suicide. then yea man

:lol

[Rico2016]

This thread is hilarious. We all know it's 2016, everybody in the world knows that. But we got some insecure bitches in this place who would kill themselves before admitting to such. Thank you for making our championship, the greatest in the history of sports, even better which each day.

+1

[ImKobe]

1991 Jordan

Playoff run:
31.1/6.4/8.4/2.4 with 1.4 blocks, 2.5 TOV
60%TS, 32.0 PER, .333 WS/48, 13.8 +/-, 2.8 VORP

15 - 2 Playoff record
swept prime Ewing
beat Prime Chuck in 5 games
swept the Bad Boy Pistons
beat Magic in 5 games in the Finals
averaged 31.2/6.6/11.4/2.8 with 1.4 blocks in the Finals with a 61.2%TS

It's the most dominant title run in NBA history with one of the best playoff records in NBA history, the only better runs are the 2001 Lakers and the 2017 Warriors, but both teams had two top 5 players, Jordan's 2nd option averaged 21 ppg and the 3rd option only 13.

Lebron stans here want to give it to Lebron for the comeback in the Finals, but ignore that he had a 2nd guy put up 41 points in elimination plus also hit the game-winner in a Game 7. Jordan didn't go past 5 games in any round and dominated every single series consistently.

Just for the sake of comparison, let's see Lebron in 2016 Playoffs

Playoff run:
26.3/9.5/7.6/2.3 with 1.3 blocks, 3.6 TOV
58.5%TS, 30.0 PER, .274 WS/48, 13.1 +/-, 3.1 VORP

16 - 5 Playoff record
swept the Andre Drummond and KCP Pistons
swept the Al Horford/Paul Milsap Hawks
Beat the Derozan Raptors in 6 games
beat the Warriors in 7 games in the Finals
Averaged 29.7/11.3/7.9/2.6 with 2.3 blocks in the Finals with a 56.2%TS

It just doesn't stack up overall. He had an easier road to the Finals (beating 2 All-NBA(3rd team) in 3 rounds vs MJ facing a HOFer/All-NBA player in their prime in every single one) and he wasn't consistent through every Playoff round. Worse record, worse overall production by the numbers in a much easier defensive era and only averaged 1 more point per game than his 2nd option for the title run and his 3rd option wasn't bad either with 14.7 ppg.

Scored less at worse efficiency and had less assists with a worse AST-TO ratio, had a nice amount of blocks and steals but wasn't really that good defensively apart from the Finals but still got lit up by Draymond Green for 32/15/9 on 95.5%TS in a Game 7.

[Rico2016]

Imagine hyping a 1991 Jordan vs Terry Porter Finals

Son you lost before you began that lengthy bs write up.

[ImKobe]

Imagine hyping a 1991 Jordan vs Terry Porter Finals

Son you lost before you began that lengthy bs write up.

1991 Jordan played against prime Magic Johnson :facepalm .

[bigkingsfan]

swept the Andre Drummond and KCP Pistons
swept the Al Horford/Paul Milsap Hawks
Beat the Derozan Raptors in 6 games
beat the Warriors in 7 games in the Finals

All those teams had better record vs Mike's in the same round.

[Turbo Slayer]

2016 Finals, Haters are shook

WE STAY WINNING!!!

#StriveForGreatness

we gonna outchea you :lol

:hammertime: :djparty

1-32 teams that won coming back from 3-1 finals alltime WOOOOOOOOOO

Because of Lebron

[Prometheus]

Imagine hyping a 1991 Jordan vs Terry Porter Finals

Son you lost before you began that lengthy bs write up.

Terry Porter was nowhere near the '91 Finals, retard.

[Turbo Slayer]

Terry Porter was nowhere near the '91 Finals, retard.

Porter averaged 12.2 pts in portland :yaohappy:

weak competition in the 90's

[Prometheus]

try harder

[Turbo Slayer]

try harder
only response? :eek:

[Da_Realist]

Sounds nice but OKC were up 3-1 in the WCFs before they shit the bed...doesn't sound like an unbeatable team to me :confusedshrug:

They weren't unbeatable. The Warriors lost by over 25 points four times that postseason and lost by double digits six out of their nine losses. Their postseason record was an average 15-9. The true mark of a team is how well they play in the playoffs when teams have 2 weeks to prepare for them.

[ImKobe]

All those teams had better record vs Mike's in the same round.

RS record means very little

Ewing...better than anyone on the Pistons
Barkley...better than anyone on the Hawks
Thomas/Dumars/Rodman/Aguirre...way better than Lowry/Derozan
Magic Johnson obviously shits on anyone on the Warriors in those Finals with Steph playing on one leg and missing essentially a month of the Playoffs.

Now you can complain that Worthy was injured and missed a game but the series was over by that point anyway because of how well Jordan played.

Quality of opponents, consistency, outplaying his teammates in every Playoff round, Jordan has the edge in all of that. Lebron was down 1 - 3 as soon as he faced his first quality opponent and got bailed out by a suspension and injuries to Iguodala and Bogut, not to mention Curry already playing on one leg coming into the series and STILL needed Kyrie Irving to drop 41 in elimination plus hit the game-winner in a Game 7, Jordan didn't even see a Game 6.

Jordan's consistency in the Finals as well

G1:36/8/12/3
G2:33/7/13/2/1 15/18 FG
G3:29/9/9/4/2
G4:28/5/13 2 blocks
G5:30/4/10/5/2

And before you drop the "Lebron led his team in everything" card, Jordan did as well minus the rebounding.

You guys also love that GameScore stat, it's 29.4 for MJ vs. 26.5 for Lebron and that's not even MJ's best Finals in a title run. I could easily put up MJ in 1992 and 1993 as well and they would be better than Lebron's 2016 run.

[bigkingsfan]

RS record means very little

Ewing...better than anyone on the Pistons
Barkley...better than anyone on the Hawks
Thomas/Dumars/Rodman/Aguirre...way better than Lowry/Derozan
Magic Johnson obviously shits on anyone on the Warriors in those Finals with Steph playing on one leg and missing essentially a month of the Playoffs.

Now you can complain that Worthy was injured and missed a game but the series was over by that point anyway because of how well Jordan played.
An NBA team is more than one player, Bulls had the best player vs the Pistons and lost to them three years straight.

[Rico2016]

It's either 2012, 2013, or 2016 but one thing we know for sure. It's not Terry Porter Finals wins or ANYTHING Mike did...

[egokiller]

It's either 2012, 2013, or 2016 but one thing we know for sure. It's not Terry Porter Finals wins or ANYTHING Mike did...

You never saw anything Mike did. All you got to see was some loser go 3/9. :lol

GTFO with this bs trolling... propping up failures because that's the best you saw? Weak sauce

Another one. :banana:

[Rico2016]

You never saw anything Mike did. All you got to see was some loser go 3/9. :lol

GTFO with this bs trolling... propping up failures because that's the best you saw? Weak sauce

Another one. :banana:


GOAT ring?

PS: Where is your other abandoned acct from 2016?

[Turbo Slayer]

You never saw anything Mike did. All you got to see was some loser go 3/9. :lol

GTFO with this bs trolling... propping up failures because that's the best you saw? Weak sauce

Another one. :banana: sad that Lebron have the GOAT ring? :dancin

[Rico2016]

sad that Lebron have the GOAT ring? :dancin

Oh he BIG sad

[egokiller]

2011 is the GOAT ring

Another one!

:banana: :banana: :banana:

[Turbo Slayer]

Oh he BIG sad
:hammertime: :yaohappy:

[Turbo Slayer]

2011 is the GOAT ring

Another one!

:banana: :banana: :banana: 2011 is meh. 2016 is better than 2011. :bowdown:

[Rico2016]

2011 is the GOAT ring

Another one!

:banana: :banana: :banana:

Where is your 2016 abandoned acct, did you 'forget' the password?

[egokiller]

2011

GOAT of all rings

:banana: :banana: :banana:

[Turbo Slayer]

Where is your 2016 abandoned acct, did you 'forget' the password?
:roll:

[egokiller]

I got this kid laughing at his alts now. :roll:

Another one!

[Turbo Slayer]

I got this kid laughing at his alts now. :roll:

Another one! You mad at me :pimp:

[egokiller]

Poor kids. All you have now is Zion. Better hope he doesn't fail as hard as lebron did.:banana:

[Turbo Slayer]

Poor kids. All you have now is Zion. Better hope he doesn't fail as hard as lebron did.:banana:

Lebron is top 5 cemented, old man. Is your back okay?

:oldlol:

Im logging off egokiller(old man).

You stay salty, old man. :roll:

Fortunately I actually spend my time wisely unlike you. Bye, ISH.

:rockon:

[egokiller]

Lebron is top 5 cemented, old man. Is your back okay?

:oldlol:

Im logging off egokiller(old man).

You stay salty, old man. :roll:

Fortunately I actually spend my time wisely unlike you. Bye, ISH.

:rockon:

Cemented until when? you log in with your other account that has him at 11th?:roll:

Another one!

[Rico2016]

Cemented until when? you log in with your other account that has him at 11th?:roll:

Another one!

Where is straight altin

[Turbo Slayer]

:oldlol:

[Turbo Slayer]

Tis the one that was won in the year of our Lord, two thousand sixteen, anno domini.
yes

[TheMan]

Imagine hyping a 1991 Jordan vs Terry Porter Finals

Son you lost before you began that lengthy bs write up.
Someone here didn't watch basketball nor could he count...gotcha :lol

And nice try but those Blazers were Drexler's, a top 5 SG in league history.

[bigkingsfan]

Someone here didn't watch basketball nor could he count...gotcha :lol

And nice try but those Blazers were Drexler's, a top 5 SG in league history.
You're always making plenty of mistakes yourself, so I'd be cautious of pointing out others.

[Turbo Slayer]

You're always making plenty of mistakes yourself, so I'd be cautious of pointing out others.
Ironic. :oldlol:

[Gileraracer]

2016 is automatically dismissed because rings that were won only because of commissioners intervention cannot be GOAT rings

[superduper]

Adam Silver, 2016.

[Turbo Slayer]

Adam Silver, 2016.
Draymond was back in game 6 and legoat destroyed them :lol

and in game 7 despite draymond's best game in the finals, curry or klay couldnt keep up :roll:

fuming :mad:

[superduper]

Draymond was back in game 6 and legoat destroyed them :lol

and in game 7 despite draymond's best game in the finals, curry or klay couldnt keep up :roll:

fuming :mad:

LeGOAT's stats before Silver dominated?

Thanks.

[Gileraracer]

Big d!ck Adam in 2016

[LAmbruh]

2016 it is! WOOOOO :hammertime:

[Turbo Slayer]

2016! lol.

[AirFederer]

2011
Never 4get

[Axe]

2016! lol.
73-9 got blown away.

[Wally450]

2016 changed the landscape of basketball for the next 3 years. Not only was it historical in itself, It made major changes throughout the top of the league for a couple years.

[highwhey]

Seems like the majority have voted for 2016. No further discussion is needed.

[Dbrog]

2011

GOAT of all rings

:banana: :banana: :banana:

I couldn't really argue with this. Duncan 03, Hakeem with no Drexler, and less talked about Rick Barry 1975 are up there.

[FireDavidKahn]

2016.

[3ball]

Gotta be 2016. :bowdown:
Lebron failed at 3-peating, so that was tougher than 2016 and a superior accomplishment.. Since 3-peats are harder to attain, MJ's 1993 or 1998 rings are the goat rings of the modern era

Many players whose skillsets allow better ball movement/brand/system would've had a better team and not needed 7 games to win in 2016

[SouBeachTalents]

Since 3-peats are harder to attain, Shaq's 2002 ring it's the goat ring of the modern era

[3ball]

Since 3-peats are harder to attain, Shaq's 2002 ring it's the goat ring of the modern era
That ring should be included

However, most people consider it less than MJ's 3-peats because Shaq needed a goat candidate and MJ clone to win (and equal scorer/closer), while MJ didn't get a goat candidate or equal scorer - he infact got the opposite of that, aka the biggest gap between #1 and #2 option ever (10-30 more than Pippen for every series)

Btw, the kd-less warriors are easy to beat as we saw in 2015 and 2019, but it's almost impossible to do with ball-domination.. accordingly, many players whose skillsets allow better ball movement/brand/system would've had a better team and not needed 7 games to win in 2016.. again, 3-peat > 2016

[Axe]

Since 3-peats are harder to attain, Shaq's 2002 ring it's the goat ring of the modern era
A team has got to have a very good coach to achieve that, not just exceptional players in the court.

[FromDowntown]

2016
2012
2013
1994
2011

In that order

[ImKobe]

Jordan 1991
Kobe 2001
Dirk 2011


Seems like we get one all-time great one every 10 years.

[Uncle Drew]

Four years after the fact, 2016 still gets people angry on the daily. That alone shows it is the greatest ring in the history of sports.

[ImKobe]

Four years after the fact, 2016 still gets people angry on the daily. That alone shows it is the greatest ring in the history of sports.

It's not a dominant Playoff run. Huge asterisk with the injuries.

[Uncle Drew]

It's not a dominant Playoff run. Huge asterisk with the injuries.

Exhibit A. :roll:

[LAmbruh]

Exhibit A. :roll:

:oldlol:

[Mr Feeny]

In recent memory, Hakeem in 95, Jordan in 91, lebron in 2016, Wade in 2006, and Dirk in 2011 have to be above any of the rest.

The Heat winning the 2006 title in the fashion they did was crazy. Down 2-0 and trailing by 13 with 5 and a half minutes to go before Wade went berserk to save the season. And the rest was history.

[superduper]

The one that Bran got without the need of running away to superteams...

........oh wait :(

[3ball]

A team has got to have a very good coach to achieve that, not just exceptional players in the court.
Having MJ or an MJ-clone is the only common thread in the triangle or Phil's 11 rings

The 91' bulls were probably the strongest of the 1st three-peat teams, while Phil was basically a rookie, nobody coach that year - MJ was the goat candidate and got credit when they won in 91', while Phil was rightfully ignored

[SamuraiSWISH]

That I've seen?

90's:

91 Jordan
92 Jordan
93 Jordan
94 Hakeem
95 Hakeem
97 Jordan
98 Jordan

00's:

00 Shaq
03 Duncan
06 Wade
09 Kobe
10 Kobe

10's:

11 Dirk (though it's the most overrated of the bunch by far)
16 LeBron / Kyrie
17 KD
19 Leonard

96 Jordan would've easily been in there had they not took their foot off the Sonic's throats and gas pedal following that massive game 3 win where Jordan won them the series. If they could've finished it in a sweep. And his jumper went cold. Couldn't get lift due to knee tendinitis, etc.

But those are the best "GOAT" caliber performances I've seen to rings, either with a Finals MVP, or just dominating performances or while facing extremely tough competition or in addition to as well (see Kobe 09, and 10 Western Conference Road) ...

LeBron would've EASILY had the GOAT ring if he had closed out certain games, or not no showed pivotal ones in that 2015 Finals. Would've been by far the best I had seen individually against amazing comp, with minimal support had he pulled it off. But as typical, he kind of threw in the towel when he KNEW the chips were down and things weren't looking good.

[Mr Feeny]

Kobe didnt close out any of those finals you mentioned. He shot 30%fg in the 4th quarters of both the 2009 and 2010 finals.

Meanwhile, lebron averaged a triple double in 2016 and had more 40 point finals games in 3 days (as a playmaker) than kobe did in his entire 20 year career, in back to back elimination games.

On no planet is anything other than 91,98 jordan, 94,95 hakeem, 06 wade and 2011 Dirk even close to 2016

[SouBeachTalents]

11 Dirk (though it's the most overrated of the bunch by far)
16 LeBron / Kyrie
17 KD
19 Leonard
:oldlol: And of course you'd include Kyrie but not Curry


LeBron would've EASILY had the GOAT ring if he had closed out certain games, or not no showed pivotal ones in that 2015 Finals. Would've been by far the best I had seen individually against amazing comp, with minimal support had he pulled it off. But as typical, he kind of threw in the towel when he KNEW the chips were down and things weren't looking good
LeBron definitely threw in the towel in 2015, right after Kyrie went down and the Cavs chances looked grim, he pretty much gave up on the series. Not like he won the next 2 games or anything, or despite his horrific efficiency, kept shooting 30+ times a game

[red1]

2012 heat run lebron had game 6 vs the celtics and then won a finals MVP to go alongside his MVP. won a gold medal that summer as well.

2013 lebron repeats. singlehandedly brings his team back in the 4th game 6 nba finals when the team is down 10 and the series is on the line. puts up 16 in the 4th quarter on 7-11 shooting and then closes out the series in game 7 hitting jumpshots. 37 points in game 7.

2016 no explanation.

2019 GOAT franchise gets its first ring.

[Smook A.]

2011 Mavs
2016 Cavs
1995 Rockets

There are many championship runs that stand out but these are the top 3 that came to my head, in no order.

[FromDowntown]

Exhibit A. :roll:

:roll:

[FromDowntown]

Kobe didnt close out any of those finals you mentioned. He shot 30%fg in the 4th quarters of both the 2009 and 2010 finals.

Meanwhile, lebron averaged a triple double in 2016 and had more 40 point finals games in 3 days (as a playmaker) than kobe did in his entire 20 year career, in back to back elimination games.

On no planet is anything other than 91,98 jordan, 94,95 hakeem, 06 wade and 2011 Dirk even close to 2016

Ether

[Mr Exlax]

Either of Hakeem's rings.

[Axe]

Kaj's first ring with the bucks

[FromDowntown]

Besides 2016 obviously?

So the second best then? 2012 or 1994 or 2011.

[Keno]

2016 easily, it's no debate either.

[FireDavidKahn]

2016 nothing else is close.