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dude77
10-09-2019, 11:43 AM
well I'll be damned :lol .. looks like the biden drop is real .. warren vs. trump .. bring it on pocahontas


https://i.ibb.co/4WyFJMG/juhyjhj.png (https://ibb.co/xhv23G0)

TheMan
10-09-2019, 11:47 AM
Trump v Warren...

Shit candidates, both of them.

One will win but America loses...

rufuspaul
10-09-2019, 11:53 AM
Still too early to tell. When Dondadda starts posting Polls showing Biden up 10+ points then we will be certain that Warren gets the nomination.

qrich
10-09-2019, 11:54 AM
Trump v Warren...

Shit candidates, both of them.

One will win but America loses...

Well, America can smarten up and say **** you to the duopoly.... but that would never happen

MaxFly
10-09-2019, 12:00 PM
She is surging for sure. Let's see if she can maintain it. Looks like Bernie is decidedly out of the picture.

FultzNationRISE
10-09-2019, 12:01 PM
Still too early to tell. When Dondadda starts posting Polls showing Biden up 10+ points then we will be certain that Warren gets the nomination.


This.

SomeBlackDude
10-09-2019, 12:03 PM
Looks like Bernie is decidedly out of the picture.

yup, bern's heart giving out means all the communists that were already fleeing his socialist paradise are being expedited to her reservation.

still won't mean anything in the south doe.

Patrick Chewing
10-09-2019, 12:04 PM
Cake walk.


https://facts.elizabethwarren.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/RacistMeme1-300x248.jpg

CelticBaller
10-09-2019, 12:14 PM
Bitch wants to use my tax money to pay for the trans surgeries :facepalm

SomeBlackDude
10-09-2019, 12:18 PM
Bitch wants to use my tax money to pay for the trans surgeries :facepalm

more usueful than them going to corporate stock buybacks. least then when somebody gets f*cked with those new organs, it won't be you this time.

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CelticBaller
10-09-2019, 12:19 PM
more usueful than them going to corporate stock buybacks. least then when somebody gets f*cked with those new organs, it won't be you this time.

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How about neither?

SomeBlackDude
10-09-2019, 12:20 PM
How about neither?

go ahead and throw your vote away on a third party.

at least when you're getting f*cked by the 1% or trannies, your conscience will be clean.

CelticBaller
10-09-2019, 12:25 PM
go ahead and throw your vote away on a third party.

at least when you're getting f*cked by the 1% or trannies, your conscience will be clean.
Considering I work in the financial field. My answer is obvious :confusedshrug:

PJR
10-09-2019, 12:28 PM
Bad news for the dems. Trump would destroy Warren. No one really wants a woman as president. Biden would beat Trump.

SomeBlackDude
10-09-2019, 12:30 PM
Considering I work in the financial field. My answer is obvious :confusedshrug:

https://media3.giphy.com/media/1tFMuoIFxXS0g/source.gif

this isn't about trannies at all, is it?

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html

is. it? :crazysam:

FultzNationRISE
10-09-2019, 12:32 PM
Considering I work in the financial field. My answer is obvious :confusedshrug:


SBD is a Dembot created to repeat “Demfacts” over and over on a constant loop so that swing voters/neutral voters/ambivalent observers will hear these things frequently enough to simply accept them as truths. It’s actually a really clever construction from the software engineers employed by the DNC.

It’s basically like Siri. You cant ask it a contextual question and get a conscious answer. It’s programmed to respond to a given topic with predetermined material. A chart, a graph, a link, a gif, a slogan.

If you dont know its origins it almost sounds like a real person controlling the account. But it’s actually bot, not a human.

Just FYI.

CelticBaller
10-09-2019, 12:34 PM
https://media3.giphy.com/media/1tFMuoIFxXS0g/source.gif

this isn't about trannies at all, is it?

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/26/wall-street-democratic-donors-may-back-trump-if-warren-is-nominated.html

is. it? :crazysam:
I

SomeBlackDude
10-09-2019, 12:34 PM
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]SBD is a Dembot paid to repeat

SomeBlackDude
10-09-2019, 12:37 PM
[QUOTE=CelticBaller]I

CelticBaller
10-09-2019, 12:53 PM
so you're telling me your only objection to a pocahontas presidency is tranny surcharge taxes?

how do you feel about the nearly trillion dollar deficit we just racked up for the past fy?

:confusedshrug:
So the constituents have to pay taxes to help pay for the countries dumb spending and debt?

I mean, if there was an outright

BigKobeFan
10-09-2019, 01:27 PM
Even mitt romney can destroy pocahontas

Rolando
10-09-2019, 02:27 PM
I am very concerned.

I've seen this before: Awkward, intellectual, technocrat....John Kerry, Michael Dukakis and now......Elizabeth Warren.

With Bernie seemingly down, she's the best hope for the Dems. However, does she have the charisma? Can she connect with working class Americans?

I freaking don't know. But, as an older and experienced political observer, the alarm bells are ringing. Massachusetts intellectual. Disconnect.....I just don't see it.

I'd almost hope that Biden comes back. He or Bernie have a chance. Warren, although there's much to like, will have a hard time connecting with regular folks.

Please convince otherwise.

rufuspaul
10-09-2019, 02:30 PM
I am very concerned.

I've seen this before: Awkward, intellectual, technocrat....John Kerry, Michael Dukakis and now......Elizabeth Warren.

With Bernie seemingly down, she's the best hope for the Dems. However, does she have the charisma? Can she connect with working class Americans?

I freaking don't know. But, as an older and experienced political observer, the alarm bells are ringing. Massachusetts intellectual. Disconnect.....I just don't see it.

I'd almost hope that Biden comes back. He or Bernie have a chance. Warren, although there's much to like, will have a hard time connecting with regular folks.

Please convince otherwise.


This. The Dems have to hope that going all in on impeachment will pay off.

FultzNationRISE
10-09-2019, 02:38 PM
I am very concerned.

I've seen this before: Awkward, intellectual, technocrat....John Kerry, Michael Dukakis and now......Elizabeth Warren.

With Bernie seemingly down, she's the best hope for the Dems. However, does she have the charisma? Can she connect with working class Americans?

I freaking don't know. But, as an older and experienced political observer, the alarm bells are ringing. Massachusetts intellectual. Disconnect.....I just don't see it.

I'd almost hope that Biden comes back. He or Bernie have a chance. Warren, although there's much to like, will have a hard time connecting with regular folks.

Please convince otherwise.


I agree she definitely presents an air of intellectualism, even though many of her policy views aren't very intelligent.

But basically you believe the appearance of intelligence will turn off Dem voters?

bladefd
10-09-2019, 02:42 PM
Bad news for the dems. Trump would destroy Warren. No one really wants a woman as president. Biden would beat Trump.

Trump won by a slim margin vs Hillary and lost popular vote by huge margin. Warren is much less hated than Hillary across the country and CERTAINLY muuuch less hated than Lil Donny. Warren stands much better chance than Hillary, who just barely lost to Lil Donny.

TheMan
10-09-2019, 02:45 PM
I agree she definitely presents an air of intellectualism, even though many of her policy views aren't very intelligent.

But basically you believe the appearance of intelligence will turn off Dem voters?
Thats yet to be determined but we do know that GOP voters aren't, they voted for GWB and effing Trump :oldlol:

rufuspaul
10-09-2019, 02:47 PM
Trump won by a slim margin vs Hillary and lost popular vote by huge margin. Warren is much less hated than Hillary across the country and CERTAINLY muuuch less hated than Lil Donny. Warren stands much better chance than Hillary, who just barely lost to Lil Donny.

Trump had to fight through a field of 16 contenders and a contentious convention to get the nomination. He started way behind Hillary in the GE and Hilldawg outspent him by a lot. This election he has no real competition in the primaries, has the power of incumbency and he's flush with cash.

FultzNationRISE
10-09-2019, 02:54 PM
Thats yet to be determined but we do know that GOP voters aren't, they voted for GWB and effing Trump :oldlol:


Thread is about Warren, Biden, DNC.


TheMan shows up with “But but but W!! Trump!!! Republicans!!!!!!”


Some.

Things.

NEVER.

Change.

TheMan
10-09-2019, 02:58 PM
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]Thread is about Warren, Biden, DNC.


TheMan shows up with

FultzNationRISE
10-09-2019, 03:00 PM
Next time you bring up something else unrelated to the thread topic, like personally attacking the poster, I'll remind you to stay on topic.

:cheers:

And the leash grows tighter...

TheMan
10-09-2019, 03:02 PM
And the leash grows tighter...:no:

Stick to the thread topic, sir

:cheers:

Hawker
10-09-2019, 04:05 PM
Hillary going to throw herself back into the mix.

rufuspaul
10-09-2019, 04:07 PM
Hillary going to throw herself back into the mix.


That would be interesting and horrifying at the same time.

Patrick Chewing
10-09-2019, 04:12 PM
Hillary going to throw herself back into the mix.


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bladefd
10-09-2019, 04:15 PM
Trump had to fight through a field of 16 contenders and a contentious convention to get the nomination. He started way behind Hillary in the GE and Hilldawg outspent him by a lot. This election he has no real competition in the primaries, has the power of incumbency and he's flush with cash.

Trump got A LOTTT of nonstop publicity with his rhetoric from the media even while spending less. Let's not overlook that. Lots of independents also despised Hillary. Warren is not despised anywhere close to Hillary or Trump by independents.

Hawker
10-09-2019, 04:16 PM
That would be interesting and horrifying at the same time.

She said in an interview that she can "beat him again."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyF_f0JUAAADAZa.jpg

:roll: :roll:

rufuspaul
10-09-2019, 04:17 PM
Trump got A LOTTT of nonstop publicity with his rhetoric from the media even while spending less. Let's not overlook that. Lots of independents also despised Hillary. Warren is not despised anywhere close to Hillary or Trump by independents.

Agreed. At least for now.

Hawker
10-09-2019, 04:19 PM
I am very concerned.

I've seen this before: Awkward, intellectual, technocrat....John Kerry, Michael Dukakis and now......Elizabeth Warren.

With Bernie seemingly down, she's the best hope for the Dems. However, does she have the charisma? Can she connect with working class Americans?

I freaking don't know. But, as an older and experienced political observer, the alarm bells are ringing. Massachusetts intellectual. Disconnect.....I just don't see it.

I'd almost hope that Biden comes back. He or Bernie have a chance. Warren, although there's much to like, will have a hard time connecting with regular folks.

Please convince otherwise.

But she waited tables when she was 13. :lol

TheMan
10-09-2019, 05:15 PM
Hillary going to throw herself back into the mix.
Nah, she would've already announced her decision to run again by now...besides, she had her chance and blew it. She's done. Democrats won't vote for her in the primaries.

ILLsmak
10-09-2019, 07:10 PM
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]SBD is a Dembot created to repeat

Hawker
10-09-2019, 07:26 PM
Nah, she would've already announced her decision to run again by now...besides, she had her chance and blew it. She's done. Democrats won't vote for her in the primaries.

She's super arrogant and full of herself. I have no doubt she thinks in her mind, she should be able to throw herself back in the mix and compete.

I mean, if she's going to talk shit like that, put up or shut up. :confusedshrug:

diamenz
10-09-2019, 08:04 PM
She's super arrogant and full of herself. I have no doubt she thinks in her mind, she should be able to throw herself back in the mix and compete.

I mean, if she's going to talk shit like that, put up or shut up. :confusedshrug:

her face. her laugh. her voice.

MAKE IT GO AWAY.

ROCSteady
10-09-2019, 08:34 PM
Still too early to tell. When Dondadda starts posting Polls showing Biden up 10+ points then we will be certain that Warren gets the nomination.

:lol

I don't know much about Warren's "platform" I don't pay much attention to the meat and potatoes of the campaign's sales tactics until the year of.

Does anybody care to briefly and objectively highlight what it is she wants to do? I can't trust journalism anymore to find out

FultzNationRISE
10-09-2019, 08:42 PM
:lol

I don't know much about Warren's "platform" I don't pay much attention to the meat and potatoes of the campaign's sales tactics until the year of.

Does anybody care to briefly and objectively highlight what it is she wants to do? I can't trust journalism anymore to find out


Well the crux of it is:

Take any given issue. Her solution is to make herself and other career politicians in Washington “The Deciders” of right and wrong, fair and unfair, on all matters, instead of the actual people involved in the issue, wherever in the country that may be.

Whether it’s a huge chunk of the public vs a particular bank, or two guys arguing in a little shop about baking a wedding cake... Warren wants to be your Decider.

diamenz
10-09-2019, 09:00 PM
:lol

I don't know much about Warren's "platform" I don't pay much attention to the meat and potatoes of the campaign's sales tactics until the year of.

Does anybody care to briefly and objectively highlight what it is she wants to do? I can't trust journalism anymore to find out

her pitch is pretty much as follows. she wants to fight back against corruption in washington, reform the system so it "works for everyone, and not just the 1%", "work towards" a path to medicare for all, forgive student debt, get money out of politics, and tax the uber rich harder to pay for her left wing policies. she's somewhere between sanders and biden on the spectrum - leaning more towards sanders. she's basically bernie-lite. she wants reform as opposed to a 'revolution'.

FultzNationRISE
10-09-2019, 09:01 PM
her pitch is pretty much as follows. she wants to fight back against corruption in washington, reform the system so it "works for everyone, and not just the 1%", "work towards" a path to medicare for all, forgive student debt, get money out of politics, and tax the uber rich harder to pay for her left wing policies. she's somewhere between sanders and biden on the spectrum - leaning more towards sanders. she's basically bernie-lite. she wants reform as opposed to a 'revolution'.


By giving Washington more power :lol

CelticBaller
10-09-2019, 09:36 PM
By giving Washington more power :lol
Liberals don’t see the irony in giving the state more power both with regulations and taxes :roll:

Shit some of the radicals even think is cool take ban guns.

FultzNationRISE
10-09-2019, 09:37 PM
Liberals don’t see the irony in giving the state more power both with regulations and taxes :roll:


The only way to stop corruption is to give all the power to a handful of people - but only the ones who agree with me!

diamenz
10-09-2019, 11:35 PM
By giving Washington more power :lol

i found this (https://www.vox.com/2019/9/16/20867216/elizabeth-warren-anti-corruption-bill) if you're interested.

edit: the copy paste job below is a jumbled mess - you're better of going to the link and scrolling down.


Warren’s anti-corruption plan, explained
Warren’s most recent anti-corruption plan contains nearly 100 proposals to change how lobbying works in all three branches of government: executive, legislative, and judicial. It’s modeled after the Anti-Corruption and Public Integrity Act she introduced last summer but contains some major changes.

Here are the key points of Warren’s plan:

A lifetime lobbying ban for presidents, vice presidents, members of Congress, federal judges, and Cabinet secretaries.
Applying conflict-of-interest laws to the president and vice president, requiring them to place businesses into a blind trust to be sold off. They would also have to place assets that could present a conflict of interest — including real estate — in a blind trust and sell them off.
Multi-year lobbying bans for federal employees (both congressional staffers and employees of federal agencies). The span of time would be at least two years and six years for those wishing to become corporate lobbyists.
Banning members of Congress and senior congressional staff from serving on corporate boards. The plan would also ban senior administration officials and members of Congress from serving on for-profit boards, no matter if they receive compensation for it or not.
Ban lobbyists from all fundraising activities, including political fundraisers or campaign bundling, and strengthen criminal anti-corruption statutes by redefining an “official act” to make politicians unable to accept gifts or payments in exchange for government action.
Requiring the IRS to release eight years of tax returns for all presidential and vice-presidential candidates as well as requiring them to release tax returns during each year in office. The IRS would also have to release two years of tax returns for members of Congress, and require them to release tax returns for each lawmaker’s year in office.
Banning members of Congress, Cabinet secretaries, federal judges, White House staff, senior congressional staff, and other officials from owning or trading individual stocks while in office.
Changing the rulemaking process of federal agencies to severely restrict the ability of corporations or industry to delay or influence rulemaking. Warren’s plan would restrict studies funded by groups with conflict-of-interest problems being considered in the rulemaking process, unless they go under a lengthy peer review.
Broadening the definition of a “thing of value” in campaign finance laws to go beyond money. Under the new definition, it could include opposition research from foreign governments.
Creating a new independent US Office of Public Integrity, which would enforce the nation’s ethics laws and investigate any potential violations. The office would also try to strengthen open records laws, making records more easily accessible to the public and the press.
Banning forced arbitration clauses and class action waivers for all employment, consumer protection, antitrust, and civil rights cases.
Boosting transparency in cases that involve public health or safety, by prohibiting courts from using sealed settlements to conceal evidence.
Prohibiting judges from being able to decide for themselves whether they should recuse themselves from a case due to a conflict. The plan would also require Supreme Court Justices to provide written explanations of recusal decisions when a litigant challenges for recusal.
Beefing up the disciplinary authority of judicial ethics watchdogs, including giving them the power to take away non-vested taxpayer-funded pensions from judges as a penalty for wrongdoing.

ROCSteady
10-09-2019, 11:44 PM
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]Well the crux of it is:

Take any given issue. Her solution is to make herself and other career politicians in Washington

FultzNationRISE
10-09-2019, 11:49 PM
i found this (https://www.vox.com/2019/9/16/20867216/elizabeth-warren-anti-corruption-bill) if you're interested.

edit: the copy paste job below is a jumbled mess - you're better of going to the link and scrolling down.


I loathe money in politics myself, but here's the problem with Warren:

She labels people using money to prevent the government from doing what the government isn't supposed to do as corruption.

If Elizabeth Warren and Congress decide they want to tell private businesses how they are to be run, in ANY random way that happens to tickle their fancy on a given day - even when this is at odds with the very freedoms the country guarantees business owners - she will accuse them of "corruption" for lobbying for the protections the Constitution is supposed to have already granted them.

This country is built on the foundation of limited government. Elizabeth Warren is power hungry, and she convinces you to overturn the values of this country's charter by CLAIMING she has your interests in mind. "Oh, well, she says all the right things. She cares about me! I think it's safe to give her final say on everything!"

You're being suckered. Look at all the Democratic #MeToo champions who've been found to be the biggest offenders of sexual harassment. All these people who want you to put power in their hands based on pandering promises... they are LYING to you. How many times do people have to see it to believe it???

Even if Warren is not overtly nefarious with evil intentions... the more power you give her, the more it will be abused. This is like Humanity 101.

It would be great to get money out of politics, but then we have another problem: Politicians in politics. If there are no forces to counteract them... yikes!

It's a real rock and a hard place.

diamenz
10-10-2019, 01:04 AM
I loathe money in politics myself, but here's the problem with Warren:

She labels people using money to prevent the government from doing what the government isn't supposed to do as corruption.

If Elizabeth Warren and Congress decide they want to tell private businesses how they are to be run, in ANY random way that happens to tickle their fancy on a given day - even when this is at odds with the very freedoms the country guarantees business owners - she will accuse them of "corruption" for lobbying for the protections the Constitution is supposed to have already granted them.

This country is built on the foundation of limited government. Elizabeth Warren is power hungry, and she convinces you to overturn the values of this country's charter by CLAIMING she has your interests in mind. "Oh, well, she says all the right things. She cares about me! I think it's safe to give her final say on everything!"

You're being suckered. Look at all the Democratic #MeToo champions who've been found to be the biggest offenders of sexual harassment. All these people who want you to put power in their hands based on pandering promises... they are LYING to you. How many times do people have to see it to believe it???

Even if Warren is not overtly nefarious with evil intentions... the more power you give her, the more it will be abused. This is like Humanity 101.

It would be great to get money out of politics, but then we have another problem: Politicians in politics. If there are no forces to counteract them... yikes!

It's a real rock and a hard place.

i should mention that i'm not necessarily a warren supporter, but in my eyes there's no hurt in voting for someone out of the box to see what they can do. whether that's sanders, trump, gabbard, yang or even warren it will bring a different perspective to washington at the least. shake things up, u know? put the establishment on the spot. a lot of what these candidates i mentioned are talking about are interesting to me, and someone like a biden taking office would be a disappointment because it's just more of the same bullshit. even trump makes a lot of fair points, i just don't dont agree with how he goes about solving them.

in the end though? yeah, you're right - we're all being suckered in one way or another.

FultzNationRISE
10-10-2019, 01:26 AM
i should mention that i'm not necessarily a warren supporter, but in my eyes there's no hurt in voting for someone out of the box to see what they can do. whether that's sanders, trump, gabbard, yang or even warren it will bring a different perspective to washington at the least. shake things up, u know? put the establishment on the spot. a lot of what these candidates i mentioned are talking about are interesting to me, and someone like a biden taking office would be a disappointment because it's just more of the same bullshit. even trump makes a lot of fair points, i just don't dont agree with how he goes about solving them.

in the end though? yeah, you're right - we're all being suckered in one way or another.


I mean the bottom line is, either we all agree to a given set of rules, or we eternally just fight over who gets to make arbitrary rules on the spot, to benefit themselves.

You cant believe in freedom of speech one day, then as soon as one group is offended, ask Congress to ban certain speech.

You cant believe in a meritocracy one day, then as soon as one group says “hey we’re not getting the results we want” tell Congress they can “adjust” the results.

That's the big problem. Any scenario imaginable is going to produce a segment of people who feel theyre getting the raw deal. So either we say “okay these are the rules, and whatever happens happens...” or we perpetually split into factions, with each group trying to elect politicians who will move the goalposts in ways that benefit their own group, rules be damned.

Unfortunately, nobody in real life will accept the results of being a loser, even if they are a loser. Even if everyone did play by the rules and some people simply lost. Theyll find reasons and excuses why they deserve whatever the “winner” has just the same. That’s human. When dudes dont have the money or women they want, their biggest priority isnt sounding like a hypocrite. It’s getting that money and wimmenz.

Bernie says all the stuff he says, then fights to keep from having to pay his campaign staff’s healthcare. Dude is worth a mil. Why isnt he paying his staff healthcare?

Everyone can say how easy it is to just “give everyone x, y, z.” But then when it doesnt benefit them, they change their mind. Every utopian liberal politician will promise lots of things, but in reality when they get in power theyre gonna focus more on maintaining their power than “altruism for the people.”

You cant expect politicians to rescue you. Young people havent learned that lesson yet, and thats why they get suckered by the allure of a “big utopian central government.”

It’s not real life.

Rolando
10-10-2019, 05:44 AM
I agree she definitely presents an air of intellectualism, even though many of her policy views aren't very intelligent.

But basically you believe the appearance of intelligence will turn off Dem voters?

I think this intellectual element doesn't resonate with the people in the middle of the country. Undecided voters might also have difficulties with her.

People on the coasts will happily voter for her though.

MaxFly
10-10-2019, 09:00 AM
I think this intellectual element doesn't resonate with the people in the middle of the country. Undecided voters might also have difficulties with her.

People on the coasts will happily voter for her though.

She's going to have to focus on her life story. She had a pretty humble beginning, and Republicans loved her when she was a registered Republican.

Rolando
10-10-2019, 09:34 AM
She's going to have to focus on her life story. She had a pretty humble beginning, and Republicans loved her when she was a registered Republican.

I hope so. It looks like she's going to be The Candidate.

n00bie
10-10-2019, 09:59 AM
Only person that has a chance vs Trump would be Yang. Can you imagine Trump trying to bully an Asian guy on stage? Isn't going to sit well with the viewers.

dude77
10-10-2019, 10:15 AM
^ seriously ? lol .. trump bullied a WOMAN ffs and won

RRR3
10-10-2019, 11:21 AM
Aight.

Loco 50
10-10-2019, 11:21 AM
Appreciate it. :cheers:

Patrick Chewing
10-10-2019, 11:31 AM
Only person that has a chance vs Trump would be Yang. Can you imagine Trump trying to bully an Asian guy on stage? Isn't going to sit well with the viewers.


Trump literally insulted or threatened to incarcerate everyone he went up against and still won in an Electoral College landslide. :lol


A Chinaman who

bladefd
10-10-2019, 01:05 PM
She's going to have to focus on her life story. She had a pretty humble beginning, and Republicans loved her when she was a registered Republican.

Her only blemish is the native American thing lol

FultzNationRISE
10-10-2019, 04:26 PM
She's going to have to focus on her life story. She had a pretty humble beginning, and Republicans loved her when she was a registered Republican.


I dont know much of her backstory, other than her exploiting a fabricated Indian heritage to receive grants or admissions or whatever that were supposed to go to real Injuns.

What sort of policy initiatives did she support as a Republican?

MaxFly
10-10-2019, 04:34 PM
I dont know much of her backstory, other than her exploiting a fabricated Indian heritage to receive grants or admissions or whatever that were supposed to go to real Injuns.

What sort of policy initiatives did she support as a Republican?

Her words...

[QUOTE]

MaxFly
10-10-2019, 04:37 PM
Her only blemish is the native American thing lol

Have you ever talked to an ardent Bernie Bro about Elizabeth Warren? She's about 13.7x worse that Hillary, and 11.483x worse than Obama... and that's before you get to the native American thing.

FultzNationRISE
10-10-2019, 04:48 PM
Her words...


Yikes.

That is one disingenuous, nonsensical back-track.



Her new base will love it :rockon:

TheMan
10-10-2019, 04:51 PM
Her words...
FYI, Hillary Clinton started out as a Goldwater Republican.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/resizer/IEyfqQOvwmP1cDB8Hw2bSOONUuM=/800x847/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/QC6BSQXR2NH5NICM5ZUSADUL7Q.jpg

MaxFly
10-10-2019, 08:34 PM
Yikes.

That is one disingenuous, nonsensical back-track.

Her new base will love it :rockon:

New information and expanded understanding tends to make people change their minds.

FultzNationRISE
10-10-2019, 08:35 PM
New information and expanded understanding tends to make people change their minds.


So does self-serving opportunism.



I was with the GOP for a while because I really thought that it was a party that was principled in its conservative approach to economics and to markets. And I feel like the GOP party just left that.


So she left the GOP because she didnt believe they were genuinely committed to conservative economics and free market values... And she became a DEMOCRAT.

And you think that’s a consistent explanation?


I have to be honest my dude, you always to me come off as a guy hoping to get an internship at the DNC. You seem to really tow the party line.

MaxFly
10-10-2019, 09:54 PM
So does self-serving opportunism.

Lol, isn't that exactly what you were advocating for in the other thread?

[QUOTE]So she left the GOP because she didnt believe they were genuinely committed to conservative economics and free market values... And she became a DEMOCRAT.

And you think that

SomeBlackDude
10-10-2019, 10:00 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/gkQSLgCB/RCP-Dems.jpg

https://media.giphy.com/media/b6iVj3IM54Abm/200.gif

bernie walks back scaling down his campaign (los socialistas leave the reservation, jump back on his sinking ship), joe calls for impeachment.

pocahontas still vegas' pick.

CelticBaller
10-10-2019, 10:06 PM
FYI, Hillary Clinton started out as a Goldwater Republican.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/resizer/IEyfqQOvwmP1cDB8Hw2bSOONUuM=/800x847/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/QC6BSQXR2NH5NICM5ZUSADUL7Q.jpg
Damn Hilary was a cutie back then

FultzNationRISE
10-10-2019, 11:40 PM
Lol, isn't that exactly what you were advocating for in the other thread?



Advocating it as a basic right, not a recommended practice. More importantly, Warren specifically argues AGAINST it as both. Despite making flimsy excuses for hopping parties when she smells opportunity. She’s a political ladder-climber.



Sounds like she left the party because...


So she left the GOP because they werent commited to markets and conservative economics, but when banks were “hammering the middle class” she was upset the GOP didnt step in and regulate?

Makes ZERO sense.


She’s a phony. A self-important ladder-climber who sells a Robin Hood image to dupes.

She makes Trump’s motives look pure and consistent.

Sad to see people shilling for her.

FultzNationRISE
10-12-2019, 06:55 PM
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]

So she left the GOP because they werent commited to markets and conservative economics, but when banks were

nightlight
10-12-2019, 07:29 PM
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]I hope my boy MaxFly will pop back in here and help me understand Lizzie

FultzNationRISE
10-12-2019, 07:33 PM
Weren't you being serious and honest mentoring Alan about his Friday and Saturday night bait posting? My bad. Faceman has a touch of the bronchitis that's keeping him down for 2 weekends straight.


It