Look at these boys handle that rock...

[LoneyROY7]

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:eek:

https://media.giphy.com/media/kgTaXZudFhQWxPxwAS/giphy.gif

:pimp:

The ISO dribble-drive gods are HERE.

[superduper]

King James is just straight up unstoppable :rockon:

[AnaheimLakers24]

I bet they lose to the warriors again

[ralph_i_el]

The champions will be a team that moves the ball and plays defense.

But hey, some people just want to look cool and collect checks :confusedshrug:

I used to think Russ was going to be a real star instead of a youtube star :facepalm

[PeroAntic]

Must feel great for every other Houston player to camp on the 3pt line all day and watch these clowns dribble the ball to oblivion.

Nice floater by Haren by the way:oldlol:

[Smoke117]

Calling Westbrick an iso dribble god is hilarious. :oldlol:

[HylianNightmare]

First round fodder

[bigkingsfan]

They're down in both scenario.

[scuzzy]

My neck

My back

[Loco 50]

Calling Westbrick an iso dribble god is hilarious. :oldlol:
It really is.:oldlol:

Glad Loney recovered though.

You said you were done and couldn't do it anymore after Harden's epic melt in last years playoffs, Loney.:(

Guess you've recovered and are ready for your annual reckoning after talking shit all year again. :dancin

Or maybe, just maybe, this year will be different.:yaohappy:

[Smoke117]

It really is.:oldlol:

Glad Loney recovered though.

You said you were done and couldn't do it anymore after Harden's epic melt in last years playoffs, Loney.:(

Guess you've recovered and are ready for your annual reckoning after talking shit all year again. :dancin

Or maybe, just maybe, this year will be different.:yaohappy:

Posting that gif like that happens all the time is just nonsense. Most of the time in a half court set Westbrook settles for a mid range or long 2pt/3pt shot he can't make. He doesn't get to the rim close to the amount of times Harden does in the half court. This is beside the point that opposing defenders just play off of him and dare him to shoot in the first place. The Rockets are looking to run a lot more now that they have him. If they still wanted to play slow then Paul is a much better iso player than Westbrook is and the trade was pointless.

[LoneyROY7]

Posting that gif like that happens all the time is just nonsense. Most of the time in a half court set Westbrook settles for a mid range or long 2pt/3pt shot he can't make. He doesn't get to the rim close to the amount of times Harden does in the half court. This is beside the point that opposing defenders just play off of him and dare him to shoot in the first place. The Rockets are looking to run a lot more now that they have him. If they still wanted to play slow then Paul is a much better iso player than Westbrook is and the trade was pointless.

CP was very good in isolation his first year with Houston (although most of it was an isolation 3 off the dribble or a mid-range jumper).

Last year though, he was an absolute shell. If Chris Paul played liked he did his first year, he wouldn't have been traded...but he didn't, and the drop-off was dramatic.

[Smoke117]

CP was very good in isolation his first year with Houston (although most of it was an isolation 3 off the dribble or a mid-range jumper).

Last year though, he was an absolute shell. If Chris Paul played liked he did his first year, he wouldn't have been traded...but he didn't, and the drop-off was dramatic.

Nah he was fine. He averaged something like 23ppg 10apg per 36 when he played on the floor without Harden. Your crush completely dominated the offense after Paul's early injury concerns whenever they played together. It wasn't close to a partnership like it was the first season. I guarantee CP3 has a season this upcoming year on OKC like he did in the 18 season. None of this changes the fact that your thread is silly with this notion that Westbrook is some great iso player lol. He's the poster boy for inefficient volume numbers in the half court set. Paul is clearly a better iso player. As I said before, the plan for the Rockets this year is to play to Westbrooks STRENGTHS and go to back to that more up tempo style the Rockets played before Paul.

Though, actually. the Rockets didn't really play different. In 2013 they led the league in pace at 96.1. This past season they had a pace of 97.9 that had them at 26th out of 30. The Rockets just haven't caught up with how the game is changing, apparently. They've basically run the same pace with D'Antoni as they did Mchale. Maybe it's time they got rid of D'Antoni and moved on. I guess we'll see if the this new Rockets team embaraces the more up tempo style that's being played these days.

[LoneyROY7]

Nah he was fine.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

End of conversation. If you can't come to terms with the fact that Chris fell off a damn cliff last year, there's no point in discussing it any further.

Harden and Paul were a fantastic duo their first year together. And it was something I really enjoyed watching. Unfortunately, that partnership dissolved last year and Harden had to become a 1-man show again simply b/c Paul couldn't make things happen in isolation like he used to.

[Smoke117]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

End of conversation. If you can't come to terms with the fact that Chris fell off a damn cliff last year, there's not point in discussing it any further.

Harden and Paul were a fantastic duo their first year together. And it was something I really enjoyed watching. Unfortunately, that partnership dissolved last year and Harden had to become a 1-man show again simply b/c Paul couldn't make things happen in isolation like he used to.

Paul fell off such a hill that when he was on the the court without Harden he played at a superstar level. That's the numbers, sweetheart. None of your fanboyism is going to change math. Also, why did you just latch on to that nonsense? I'm trying to talk about the Harden and Westbrook duo and not CP3. I simply stated Paul was a better iso player in the halfcourt than Westbrook...which is a ****ing truth and what makes your initial post so silly. You are even only posting this because you know you jumped the gone on this "the iso dribble double gods" nonsense. lol. Westbrook isn't even close to even being a top 10 iso player in the league much less "god". As I said before, the idea for the Rockets is to run more as if you aren't going run and gun then Westbrick is basically useless. Also, they took a huge downgrade defensively with this trade. Chris Paul lead the league in rpm for pg's and was one of the best defensive pg's in the league. Westbrook continuously falls into the top 10 in contested 3pters...as A POIN^ GUARD...because he drops off his man to get his rebounds for his triple double. This team is definitely going to miss Paul's elite defense that's for sure.

[LoneyROY7]

Paul fell off such a hill that when he was on the the court without Harden he played at a superstar level. That's the numbers, sweetheart. None of your fanboyism is going to change math.

Chris Paul shot 41.9 percent from the field last year. He's one of the most efficient guards of all-time...that's what he's known for.

He fell off. It is what it is.

[Smoke117]

Chris Paul shot 41.9 percent from the field last year. He's one of the most efficient guards of all-time...that's what he's known for.

He fell off. It is what it is.

It's almost like he was hurt half the season and one of those injuries was an elbow injury. You are going to be eating crow when he's basically averaging 18/9 on 58%ts+ while playing his usual all defense while you are watching Westbrook chuck away games and not play any defense at all.

[LoneyROY7]

It's almost like he was hurt half the season and one of those injuries was an elbow injury. You are going to eating crow when he's basically averaging 18/9 while playing his usual all defense while you are watching Westbrook chuck away games and not play any defense at all.

Alright. If Paul is truly back to his 17/18 levels like you're claiming, he should have no problem leading this OKC team to the playoffs.

Expectations set.

[Smoke117]

Alright. If Paul is truly back to his 17/18 levels like you're claiming, he should have no problem leading this OKC team to the playoffs.

Expectations set.


Well, I never said he'd stay healthy. That's always been his achilles heel. His health. The Rockets don't have an NBA championship because the BEST PLAYER IN THE WARRIORS 2018 SERIES (fact and you know it) couldn't stay healthy. It looks like he's finally cutting all that excessive weight he's held onto and getting back to his cut NO's days so if he plays 70 games and actually STAYS on the OKC (I think it's a given after teams see how good he still is during the first half he'll get traded to the heat or someone else) he could lead them to the playoffs. That's also assuming Galinari can stay healthy. His injury past is even worst than CP3. That's the thing. You going on about the playoffs doesn't mean anything when it basically relies on health. If Chris Paul and Galinari play 82 games each at their level they obviously make the playoffs. That's not how things work. This team obviously isn't talented to win games if those two get hurt.

I'd say this. If Chris Paul ends up playing this entire season on OKC and plays 72+...they would sneak into the playoffs. He's that good at raising up everyone.

[LoneyROY7]

Well, I never said he'd stay healthy. That's always been his achilles heel. His health. The Rockets don't have an NBA championship because the BEST PLAYER IN THE WARRIORS 2018 SERIES (fact and you know it) couldn't stay healthy. It looks like he's finally cutting all that excessive weight he's held onto and getting back to his cut NO's days so if he plays 70 games and actually STAYS on the OKC (I think it's a given after teams see how good he still is during the first half he'll get traded to the heat or someone else) he could lead them to the playoffs. That's also assuming Galinari can stay healthy. His injury past is even worst than CP3. That's the thing. You going on about the playoffs doesn't mean anything when it basically relies on health. If Chris Paul and Galinari play 82 games each at their level they obviously make the playoffs. That's not how things work. This team obviously isn't talented to win games if those two get hurt.

I'd say this. If Chris Paul ends up playing this entire season on OKC and plays 72+...they would sneak into the playoffs. He's that good at raising up everyone.

Chris Paul playing 72+ games? :lol :lol C'mon, I know you chuckled when you typed that out too.

Anyways, what's ironic is that CP actually played the same amount of games the last 2 years. 58. And yet his individual results from 17-18 to 18-19 were night and day. Kinda pokes holes in your idea that the only reason Paul's numbers were down was caused by him being out part of the year.

[Smoke117]

In the end none of this means more than anything than this...NO TEAM WILL EVER WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP IF JAMES HARDEN IS YOUR BEST PLAYER...

...THAT'S A FACT.

[LoneyROY7]

In the end none of this means more than anything than this...NO TEAM WILL EVER WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP IF JAMES HARDEN IS YOUR BEST PLAYER...

...THAT'S A FACT.

How about Chris Paul? Will any team win a championship with Chris Paul on the ROSTER?

He's running out of time.

[FireDavidKahn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV0AQfjyt0w

:bowdown:

[Smoke117]

How about Chris Paul? Will any team win a championship with Chris Paul on the ROSTER?

He's running out of time.

Chris Paul is top 30 all time and half of the top 30 haven't won a championship. It doesn't even matter.

[LoneyROY7]

Chris Paul is top 30 all time and half of the top 30 haven't won a championship. It doesn't even matter.

And you know who will be higher than him on that all-time list? James Harden. :lol

[ILLsmak]

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:eek:

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:pimp:

The ISO dribble-drive gods are HERE.

Every ****ing James Harden Iso looks the same. It's amazing he can pull it off. If you do one thing, he steps back, if you do another he drives.

That WESTBROOK first step oh my god. Dudes need to watch that for a second and see how fast that shit is.

They can't win with those two clowns isoing all the time tho. You can't have two iso scorers as the focus of your offense, it's dumb. They need a better long term strategy because you'd think they COULD compete for a ring with their roster. They need some plays tho. Harden is probably a knock down shooter off the kick out, but I don't think WB is.

Edit: no team will ever win with James Harden just isoing I agree w/ that. But if they got him in a scheme, he's talented enough to be a first option guy. Just like his iso is basically move counter movie, they just need ONE wrinkle and everything would be OK. A post up, coming off a screen, whatever. I guess they could run WB on that. WB can post dudes up. WB/Harden pick and roll?? I dunno. But they can't do that iso at the top every time.

-Smak

[AlternativeAcc.]

CP3

[LoneyROY7]

Handle on lock. Hesi on a hunnit. Burst on stupid.

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[AlternativeAcc.]

Harden vs. CP3

Harden at his peak vs older CP3 with a worse roster

Damn. CP3 could tarnish Hardens legacy in a bigly way