Pascal Siakam max extension [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

yeaaaman

10-19-2019, 02:55 PM

He's a good young talent but he hasn't shown that he can carry an offense. TO will have to be a team with a bunch of guys getting 14-18 points.

He hasn't shown it yet because he's making the leap from being a project to a max player. They're not paying the player he is now they're paying him for what they think he'll become. Now time to sit back and watch :cheers:

Manny98

10-19-2019, 03:17 PM

130 million for a slightly above average player?:roll: :roll:

AirTupac

10-19-2019, 03:18 PM

33 mill a year for a guy who had 1 good year :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

FireDavidKahn

10-19-2019, 03:56 PM

He'll be worth it.

k0kakw0rld

10-19-2019, 04:08 PM

130 million for a slightly above average player?:roll: :roll:
He's better than anybody on the Nets not named Durant.

FultzNationRISE

10-19-2019, 04:11 PM

Raptors have just signed Siakam to a 4 year $130 million contract. Expecting a big year from him. Raptors will be better than many think.

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Manny98

10-19-2019, 04:22 PM

He's better than anybody on the Nets not named Durant.
He's not better than Kyrie or LeVert lol

Siakam is just a role player he will never be a star

k0kakw0rld

10-19-2019, 04:24 PM

He's not better than Kyrie or LeVert lol

Siakam is just a role player he will never be a star
Scoring fancy buckets doesn't make you a better player. Being able to play very good on both ends of the floor, can make you a better player than the next guy, however.

Can Kyrie guard Siakam? The answer is no
Can Siakam guard Kyrie? The answer is yes

FultzNationRISE

10-19-2019, 04:31 PM

Scoring fancy buckets doesn't make you a better player. Being able to play very good on both ends of the floor, can make you a better player than the next guy, however.

Can Kyrie guard Siakam? The answer is no
Can Siakam guard Kyrie? The answer is yes

This is true, and I've always believed most 'stat' guys who get max contracts (Westbrook, Melo, Arenas types) weren't remotely worth them.

But neither are role players tbh, even the best ones.

If you don't have one of the top 5 or so elite difference makers in the game, max contracts are pretty much just wasting too much cap space on one guy.

That's too much money for a guy who doesn't make a 15-20 win difference like a Lebron or a Durant or a regular-season-Curry.

Real Men Wear Green

10-19-2019, 07:07 PM

He hasn't shown it yet because he's making the leap from being a project to a max player. They're not paying the player he is now they're paying him for what they think he'll become. Now time to sit back and watch :cheers:
I know he's being paid on potential, I just don't see him as being 20+ ppg scorer right now. I don't recall him ever being featured in the offense, but just talking contract, he was going to be one of the highest-regarded free agents so I get why he's being paid like that, but it may take a while for him to play at an All-Star level.

yeaaaman

10-20-2019, 12:19 AM

I know he's being paid on potential, I just don't see him as being 20+ ppg scorer right now. I don't recall him ever being featured in the offense, but just talking contract, he was going to be one of the highest-regarded free agents so I get why he's being paid like that, but it may take a while for him to play at an All-Star level.

Wait...why not? He just put up 17ppg in the season after doing like 7 the year before and upped that to 19 across the playoffs where things ratchet up and teams are able to scheme to 20 in the finals against Draymond Green. He's entering a year where he'll be the focal point of the offense without Kawhi, I don't think an uptick of 3ppg is unreasonable given

A) the new opportunity and
B) the growth trajectory he's shown over the past 3 years.

He wasn't the "featured guy" because Kawhi was there so we'll see how he does being featured this year. Pretty sure he was at 20/game in those 23 games without Kawhi anyway, and I don't think it much of a stretch to say being an all-star this year is a realistic goal.

Lastly, keep in mind Otto Porter Jr. is getting $106, Wiggins $158 and Parsons $94. I'm sure there's many more, this isn't unreasonable in todays NBA for a guy with his potential and motor.

DCL

10-20-2019, 12:29 AM

his agent is the mvp

brooks_thompson

10-20-2019, 02:31 AM

Neither hate nor love it. I feel like too many fans these days get caught up in the dollar amounts of these contracts. If he was making $5/mil a year less, what are the Raptors gonna get with that cap space? An Ed Davis or Danuel House at best.
I trust the Raptors Gm to be able to build a good team while paying Siakam 25% of the cap.

Real Men Wear Green

10-20-2019, 05:12 AM

Wait...why not? He just put up 17ppg in the season after doing like 7 the year before and upped that to 19 across the playoffs where things ratchet up and teams are able to scheme to 20 in the finals against Draymond Green. He's entering a year where he'll be the focal point of the offense without Kawhi, I don't think an uptick of 3ppg is unreasonable given

A) the new opportunity and
B) the growth trajectory he's shown over the past 3 years.

He wasn't the "featured guy" because Kawhi was there so we'll see how he does being featured this year. Pretty sure he was at 20/game in those 23 games without Kawhi anyway, and I don't think it much of a stretch to say being an all-star this year is a realistic goal.

Lastly, keep in mind Otto Porter Jr. is getting $106, Wiggins $158 and Parsons $94. I'm sure there's many more, this isn't unreasonable in todays NBA for a guy with his potential and motor.In case it wasn't clear I'm not arguing with his contract, it is what the market dictates. I just don't see him as a major scorer. The statistical improvement is good but does he consistently create offense? I know that Leonard was featured. There is a reason for that. Mainly had to fo with Leonard being great but may well also have to do with Siakam's skill set. I don't recall him creating offense.

He will certainly have the chance to do it now.

DoctorP

10-20-2019, 05:15 AM

good for him. didnt need viagra or anything.

Wally450

10-20-2019, 10:50 AM

Makes the Celtics offer to Jaylen Brown look tame lol.

tontoz

10-20-2019, 11:19 AM

He averaged 19 pts per 36 minutes with great efficiency. I see no reason why he cant average over 20 ppg. Given that he also plays good D he is absolutely a max player.

Real Men Wear Green

10-20-2019, 12:18 PM

He averaged 19 pts per 36 minutes with great efficiency. I see no reason why he cant average over 20 ppg. Given that he also plays good D he is absolutely a max player. I'm just not sold on his skill set as a creator of offense. I could be wrong of course.

ImKobe

10-20-2019, 12:45 PM

He averaged 19 pts per 36 minutes with great efficiency. I see no reason why he cant average over 20 ppg. Given that he also plays good D he is absolutely a max player.

I guess I can understand why they did it because if they let it go to the 2020 FA Siakam would probably get a bunch of max offers with the FAs available. He's been healthy and he played out of his mind in some big Playoff moments so overall it's probably a good deal. How many athletic 6-9 wings do we have who play good-elite defense and who can also hit the 3?

bigkingsfan

10-20-2019, 12:51 PM

You pay him now so his contract doesn't become a distraction. It's not like the Raptors can attract future FA.

red1

10-20-2019, 01:05 PM

siakam is a baller. board man gets paid.

I will forever *********e to highlights of finals rookie siakam shitting on draymond game 1 of the finals when the donkey called himself the nba's all-time GOAT defender. :roll:

BallsOut

10-20-2019, 01:08 PM

I'm just not sold on his skill set as a creator of offense. I could be wrong of course.

His defensive versatility alone makes him worth that. Offensive game shows promise. Unlike sorry ass Jaylen Brown.

Real Men Wear Green

10-20-2019, 01:36 PM

His defensive versatility alone makes him worth that. Offensive game shows promise. Unlike sorry ass Jaylen Brown.
I am assuming that you can read. If so you should have seen me write, more than once, that I am not arguing about his contract.

And1AllDay

10-20-2019, 04:30 PM

his agent is the mvp

:oldlol: :roll: :roll:

ILLsmak

10-20-2019, 08:45 PM

he's good. Probably better than we know unless he gets fat cat syndrome.

This happens a lot, teams have to invest in something. KL left, so they invested in the guy who carried them a lot in the playoffs. Sure, he did it better because he wasn't a factor... and I dunno what he is gonna do with the defense on him, but he's proven he's got big balls and gives it everything he can. I think it's OK. There wasn't really another option. You don't let him walk.

-Smak

Manny98

10-21-2019, 12:00 PM

Still can't believe the Craptors would be dumb enough to pay a role player that amount of money

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tontoz

10-21-2019, 12:08 PM

Still can't believe the Craptors would be dumb enough to pay a role player that amount of money

The Raps won a title without a high draft pick on their roster. That isn't possible making dumb moves.

I think Masai knows better than you. Pretty much every call you made during the playoffs was wrong.

StrongLurk

10-21-2019, 12:31 PM

Siakam actually was very underrated all last year, he has some great advanced stats.

Who knows if he can be the same guy as the number 1 option, but I see why the Raps want to give him a shot.

Manny98

10-21-2019, 12:35 PM

The Raps won a title without a high draft pick on their roster. That isn't possible making dumb moves.

I think Masai knows better than you. Pretty much every call you made during the playoffs was wrong.
130 million for a role player, yikes :roll: :roll:

FireDavidKahn

10-21-2019, 01:14 PM

Siakam actually was very underrated all last year, he has some great advanced stats.

Who knows if he can be the same guy as the number 1 option, but I see why the Raps want to give him a shot.
Exactly.

tontoz

10-21-2019, 01:26 PM

130 million for a role player, yikes :roll: :roll:

What exactly makes him a "role player"?

DoctorP

10-21-2019, 01:27 PM

Manny98

10-21-2019, 02:22 PM

130

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Manny98

10-21-2019, 02:32 PM

What exactly makes him a "role player"?
He's not a star is never going to be a star so he's a role player

He's 25 and has already pretty much hit his peak

tontoz

10-21-2019, 02:51 PM

He's not a star is never going to be a star so he's a role player

He's 25 and has already pretty much hit his peak

This past season he scored over 6 pts per 36 minutes more than he did the previous season with far better efficiency. I see no reason why his progression should suddenly stop.

Given your past predictions Siakam is a virtual lock to make the AS game this season.

Vino24

10-21-2019, 04:15 PM

Better than Pippen and already better paid than him :cheers: :applause:

sammichoffate

10-21-2019, 04:43 PM

F it. If youre Toronto, what are you gonna do? Tank? They still have a bunch of talent to easily get to the second round. Not sure about these vanity deals.

They should have waited for a true star to come loose but what to do in the meantime??The could if they wanted to, all their contracts are gonna be off the books for next summer. It's not a bad idea to keep doing what they're doing though, just keep doing good trades and finding gems in the draft. Siakam works extremely hard unlike someone like Wiggins.

DoctorP

10-21-2019, 06:18 PM

The could if they wanted to, all their contracts are gonna be off the books for next summer. It's not a bad idea to keep doing what they're doing though, just keep doing good trades and finding gems in the draft. Siakam works extremely hard unlike someone like Wiggins.

I would have maxed him 2-3 years tops :lol

yeaaaman

10-21-2019, 07:39 PM

130 million for a role player, yikes :roll: :roll:

lol do you watch the NBA?

tpols

10-21-2019, 07:45 PM

why is 130 million a joke when guys like jaylen brown are getting 100+?

scrubs like soloman hill or mozgov get 60 mil?

Siakam had a finals game that was on some peak charles barkley shit and was a strong 2nd option on the raptors only championship team in their entire history...

and he has absurd touch and skill for his athleticism.

Manny holing BIG L's.

:facepalm

DMAVS41

10-21-2019, 08:48 PM

Good deal.

He's already proven a lot and has the potential to perhaps have a 5 year window where he gets good enough to be the 2nd best player on a title contender...for sure 3rd best player imo.

FultzNationRISE

10-21-2019, 09:08 PM

People talkin bout

DMAVS41

10-21-2019, 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]People talkin bout

tontoz

10-21-2019, 09:21 PM

Other than true franchise level players, almost everyone in the league that gets a big contract or extension is overpaid.

Just the way it works...it is the cost of business because teams can't often afford to risk letting a player like this walk.

Especially Toronto. Not exactly a free agent hotbed.

Setting that aside i think he is being underrated. Remember that Kawhi missed 22 games but the Raps still had the 2nd best record in the league.

DMAVS41

10-21-2019, 09:23 PM

Especially Toronto. Not exactly a free agent hotbed.

Setting that aside i think he is being underrated. Remember that Kawhi missed 22 games but the Raps still had the 2nd best record in the league.

Agreed.

DoctorP

10-21-2019, 09:42 PM

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tpols

10-21-2019, 09:56 PM

Good deal.

He's already proven a lot and has the potential to perhaps have a 5 year window where he gets good enough to be the 2nd best player on a title contender...for sure 3rd best player imo.

How can you say he has the potential to be 2nd option on a title contender when he already was that on a championship team?

No offense but he already did that and more.

DMAVS41

10-21-2019, 10:15 PM

How can you say he has the potential to be 2nd option on a title contender when he already was that on a championship team?

No offense but he already did that and more.

I was talking more from an overall level and I do think Lowry would have something to say about being that 2nd guy.

For example, Jason Terry won a title as the 2nd option, but I don't think...even after doing that...he should ever be labeled or thought of as a guy of that caliber...because he wasn't.

I know he put up really good numbers in the playoffs, but I think he has a lot of room to grow into an all-nba player...perhaps that is a better way to describe what I was getting at.

FultzNationRISE

10-21-2019, 10:25 PM

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That’s a fair point and tbh I agree, but still I think technically they overpaid.

If they arent making the finals the next few years, it’s gonna be a disappointment.

But I can definitely see what you mean and I think there’s merit to that aspect as well.

yeaaaman

10-22-2019, 12:20 AM

[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]People talkin bout

FultzNationRISE

10-22-2019, 12:24 AM

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Was Anthony Davis' contract bad? I can't remember when he was ever on a contender (before this year).

Listen you might not think it but a lot of people are high on him and his potential growth. Zach Lowe said today Siakam has a chance at All-Star, All-Defense and All-NBA this year. Sure that might be a bit of a stretch but he said it 100% seriousness with Wilbon and others sitting right there and not even blinking twice. It's not a bad deal at all.

No because it was always tradeable regardless.

If the Raptors underperform and decide to blow it up, nobody will want P’s contract. He’s not perceived as a ‘cornerstone’ like that. The Raptors just won a chip and they have to try to stay relevant post-Kawhi so they overpaid. Other teams wont take on that deal tho, especially if he doesnt have them contending. That’s the difference.

yeaaaman

10-22-2019, 12:25 AM

I was talking more from an overall level and I do think Lowry would have something to say about being that 2nd guy.

For example, Jason Terry won a title as the 2nd option, but I don't think...even after doing that...he should ever be labeled or thought of as a guy of that caliber...because he wasn't.

I know he put up really good numbers in the playoffs, but I think he has a lot of room to grow into an all-nba player...perhaps that is a better way to describe what I was getting at.

I get what you're saying but I wouldn't put it that way at all because of what Siakam brings across the board offensively and defensively. The pressure he puts on defense in transition and attacking the rim is immense and will only get better. Being a player who puts up 32 on 14-17 in your first finals game going up against Draymond Green is someone I'd feel comfortable being a clear second option moving forward on a championship level team for the reason you stated - he still has a lot of room to grow.

A guy whose improved this much with the athleticism, skill-set and motor that he has makes it hard to know what exactly his cieling is. This will be an interesting year to see how he grows. Clearly it's a lot to expect another insane jump for him but what does that next step look like? We'll see

yeaaaman

10-22-2019, 12:26 AM

No because it was always tradeable regardless.

If the Raptors underperform and decide to blow it up, nobody will want P’s contract because he’s not perceived as a ‘cornerstone.’ That wasnt the case with AD. That’s the difference.

a) It's 2019 - cornerstone players don't make $130 over 4 years.
b) Players like Bradley Beal will be making 250mil in 2 years, in no way will Siakam at 130 be a contract nobody wants unless he completely falls off a cliff and doens't progress at all. Do you forsee that?

FultzNationRISE

10-22-2019, 12:30 AM

a) It's 2019 - cornerstone players don't make $130 over 4 years.
b) Players like Bradley Beal will be making 250mil in 2 years, in no way will Siakam at 130 be a contract nobody wants unless he completely falls off a cliff and doens't progress at all. Do you forsee that?

Thread title says this is a max extension :confusedshrug:

yeaaaman

10-22-2019, 12:34 AM

Thread title says this is a max extension :confusedshrug:

Max extensions are different for players coming off their rookie contracts and I believe years of service. His max deal isn't crippling or unworthy of his ability and skill considering its a rookie max extension.

FultzNationRISE

10-22-2019, 12:37 AM

Max extensions are different for players coming off their rookie contracts and I believe years of service. His max deal isn't crippling or unworthy of his ability and skill considering its a rookie max extension.

That’s fair.

We’ll see I guess.

Im not rooting against him, just skeptical. :confusedshrug:

warriorfan

10-22-2019, 12:45 AM

Max extension.

Jay-B

10-22-2019, 03:18 AM

Raptors have just signed Siakam to a 4 year $130 million contract. Expecting a big year from him. Raptors will be better than many think.
I agree too, I think Toronto is gonna play with a TON of pride

Manny98

10-22-2019, 05:43 AM

130

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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DMAVS41

10-22-2019, 12:05 PM

I get what you're saying but I wouldn't put it that way at all because of what Siakam brings across the board offensively and defensively. The pressure he puts on defense in transition and attacking the rim is immense and will only get better. Being a player who puts up 32 on 14-17 in your first finals game going up against Draymond Green is someone I'd feel comfortable being a clear second option moving forward on a championship level team for the reason you stated - he still has a lot of room to grow.

A guy whose improved this much with the athleticism, skill-set and motor that he has makes it hard to know what exactly his cieling is. This will be an interesting year to see how he grows. Clearly it's a lot to expect another insane jump for him but what does that next step look like? We'll see

Well, I don't think he needs an insane jump. I think often fans confuse that. I think what he needs is probably some improved consistency, but not really improving aspects of his game much...although that will come.

I'm simply saying that I'd like to see him put in a full year or more as a clear 2nd option and solidify himself as an all-nba player before we crown him that level of a player.

FireDavidKahn

10-22-2019, 09:37 PM

Looking good so far tonight.

FultzNationRISE

10-22-2019, 09:40 PM

I agree too, I think Toronto is gonna play with a TON of pride

GAY pride? :biggums:

StrongLurk

10-22-2019, 10:11 PM

Manny looking dumb so far. Although it's only one game.

coin24

10-22-2019, 10:18 PM

He's beasting today :eek:

stalkerforlife

10-22-2019, 10:27 PM

And he deserved it.

Wow.

LoneyROY7

10-22-2019, 10:38 PM

Manny at it AGAIN.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

yeaaaman

10-22-2019, 11:03 PM

This is game 1 and he has a big learning curve and they're going to rely on him a LOT. I think he'll be just fine

Real Men Wear Green

10-22-2019, 11:10 PM

This is game 1 and he has a big learning curve and they're going to rely on him a LOT. I think he'll be just fineHe brings great energy but his ballhandling needs major work and most likely won't be improving. Excellent roleplayer.

yeaaaman

10-22-2019, 11:31 PM

He brings great energy but his ballhandling needs major work and most likely won't be improving. Excellent roleplayer.

lol what? His ball handling won't improve? He started playing when he was 18 - did you see his ballhandling as a rookie? It's already improved a lot if you actually watched him but I think you probably didn't until the playoffs last year :oldlol:

Sportal

10-22-2019, 11:51 PM

This guy is an absolute prime example of if you get all of your fundamentals right, and work hard, you can be a talent in this league.

Manny98

10-23-2019, 05:14 AM

Manny looking dumb so far. Although it's only one game.
Anyone can score 34 against the Pelicans :sleeping

Real Men Wear Green

10-23-2019, 05:33 AM

lol what? His ball handling won't improve? He started playing when he was 18 - did you see his ballhandling as a rookie? It's already improved a lot if you actually watched him but I think you probably didn't until the playoffs last year :oldlol: How many players have become good dribbles after the age of 26?

SugarHill

10-23-2019, 06:18 AM

How many players have become good dribbles after the age of 26?
He's a PF. How many in the league have handles like him? Calling him a role player is a joke considering he will be an allstar as the best player on a top 5 playoff team.

Real Men Wear Green

10-23-2019, 07:29 AM

He's a PF. How many in the league have handles like him? Calling him a role player is a joke considering he will be an allstar as the best player on a top 5 playoff team.Trying to count how many 4s handle the ball the way he does wouldn't be much of a joke, more like a waste of time. Do you recall his attempt to dribble in front of Lonzo Ball? It's just not part of his skill set and if he's to be a featured offensive player that's an issue. He's not going to dominate on post ups and is not a big long range threat. He can finish and shoots decently but needs the ability to dribble to be a reliable go-to guy. Or else he'll be out there just getting effort baskets, a good contribution but not something you can rely upon.

Grey Dawn

10-23-2019, 07:39 AM

Haven

E_Stamkos

10-23-2019, 07:42 AM

[QUOTE=Grey Dawn]Haven

SpaceJam

10-23-2019, 07:43 AM

Dude is UNDERPAID

SugarHill

10-23-2019, 08:04 AM

Trying to count how many 4s handle the ball the way he does wouldn't be much of a joke, more like a waste of time. Do you recall his attempt to dribble in front of Lonzo Ball? It's just not part of his skill set and if he's to be a featured offensive player that's an issue. He's not going to dominate on post ups and is not a big long range threat. He can finish and shoots decently but needs the ability to dribble to be a reliable go-to guy. Or else he'll be out there just getting effort baskets, a good contribution but not something you can rely upon.
That play was hideous but it has less to do with his lack of handle but more of his issues in forcing the situation which is quite common. Facing up and taking bigs and wings off the dribble through the use of his handle or ability to blow by is a big part of his game. He was also the tertiary ball handler last year and would run the offense from the jump which would be impossible for a player that cannot handle the ball as you're making him seem. I'm not going to condescend you and suggest you have no idea what you're talking about but clearly you don't watch Raptor games enough. Spare me with that shit about counting players since I only have Blake, Millsap and Giannis as players in his position who have better handles than him. He's at the very least has good handles for a power forward. By all means, add to the list so I can see where your head is at. Of course he's not Kevin Durant out there but he doesn't need to be nor is his handle some major hurdle that will stop him from being a star which he clearly is going to be this year and should have been last year over Lowry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht5fFTS-Ou0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uipPDseDgpM

yeaaaman

10-23-2019, 01:56 PM

How many players have become good dribbles after the age of 26?

Well I was responding to what you said - which is this

He brings great energy but his ballhandling needs major work and most likely won't be improving. Excellent roleplayer.

You said his ball handling likely won't be improving, I didn't understand why.

How many guys became good dribblers at 26? How many started playing basketball at 18 and went from as raw as he was in his rookie year to someone who can put the ball on the floor well enough to score the series clinching basket in the NBA Finals against the self-proclaimed best defender ever?

The whole reason they gave him the contract is because he's not a typical 26 year old, he's actually not even 26 for that matter, he's 25. So he started playing 7 years ago. I think it's asinine for somebody with basketball knoweldge to say he is a roll player and someone who likely won't improve given the reasons I went over in both this post and my last. Again I don't need to defend over defend that just stating my opinion and obviously you have yours. I'm under the impression that the Massai Ujiri is not taking the approach you seemed to be (w/ seemingly limited information).

Real Men Wear Green

10-23-2019, 03:03 PM

I don't know how Ujiri views his potential as a scorer going forward but again, for the record, I don't disagree with the signing. If I was Ujiri I'd have done the same thing. As an all-around player he's fantastic. I just don't see him as a go-to scorer. I don't believe in his ability to create as the star and again, I doubt his ball handling. I did see the two vids posted, some of the moves were nice but it's a highlight vid. I can post a highlight reel that would make Antoine Walker look like a great shooter. Doesn't mean he was. I would never say he isn't talented but he's at an age where we rarely see major growth in a player's game. I get that you think he'll be the exception, and maybe he will, I'm not completely against this guy I just don't see him becoming a great scorer. Regardless we'll see how his season and career goes.

Real Men Wear Green

10-25-2019, 08:54 PM

Ok when did this dude turn into Dirk? I'm calling shenanigans.

SugarHill

10-25-2019, 08:55 PM

It's only right that he does this to your team. You know I had to run here

Real Men Wear Green

10-25-2019, 08:58 PM

It's only right that he does this to your team. You know I had to run here
He's balling. I give him credit. Actually, I'm the one that ran here.

yeaaaman

10-25-2019, 09:01 PM

He's balling. I give him credit. Actually, I'm the one that ran here.

I give you credit sir

Real Men Wear Green

10-25-2019, 09:28 PM

I give you credit sir:cheers:
It's only right that he does this to your team. You know I had to run here
Y'all can win the argument...Celtics just won the game.

SugarHill

10-25-2019, 09:36 PM

:cheers:
Y'all can win the argument...Celtics just won the game.
:oldlol:

Gasol is ass

KD7

08-30-2020, 02:59 PM

Imagine paying this scrub 130 million dollars

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KD7

08-30-2020, 03:00 PM

130 million for a slightly above average player?:roll: :roll:

:roll:

LoneyROY7

08-30-2020, 03:21 PM

:roll:

Never kissed a girl Manny quoting himself. :(

red1

08-30-2020, 03:28 PM

Never kissed a girl Manny quoting himself. :(

:roll:

Manny98

08-30-2020, 03:30 PM

Imagine paying this scrub 130 million dollars

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Kblaze8855

08-30-2020, 03:35 PM

130 is a smaller deal that I thought he had. That’s not bad really.

BurningHammer

08-30-2020, 03:59 PM

From what Pascal has been contributing to Raptors last 2 seasons, $130M for 5 years doesn't seem to be a bad deal.

NBAGOAT

08-30-2020, 04:00 PM

From what Pascal has been contributing to Raptors last 2 seasons, $130M for 5 years doesn't seem to be a bad deal.

it's 4 years but it's fine. he's a max player and one less year is nice.

Rudeboy3

08-30-2020, 06:06 PM

I remember when the season started and raptor fans were trying to say he was better than Giannis, ****ing clowns :roll: :roll: :roll:

Manny98

08-31-2020, 06:50 AM

130 million ladies & gentleman

https://streamable.com/79e60m

DoctorP

08-31-2020, 06:56 AM

130 million ladies & gentleman

https://streamable.com/79e60m

not a good sequence of events

he was killing it earlier this year. maybe hes rusty...maybe not

Manny98

09-02-2020, 03:16 AM

Another clinic last night for Mr 130 million

6-16 & chokes in the 4th quarter

Best contract in the NBA :lol

Penetrator

09-02-2020, 05:05 AM

130 million ladies & gentleman

https://streamable.com/79e60m

:lol:lol

Mini p

SATAN

09-02-2020, 05:46 AM

It was always extremely obvious this dude "ain't it" despite the numbers through reg. Butler compared to this dude:facepalm

E_Stamkos

09-02-2020, 07:28 AM

He's definitely no Joe Harris that's for sure

AnaheimLakers24

09-02-2020, 09:29 AM

ingram has been better than this bum for 2 years now

Real Men Wear Green

09-02-2020, 09:48 AM

ingram has been better than this bum for 2 years now

Ingram is a good player but he's done nothing that Siakam hasn't. Meanwhile Siakam is the best player on a playoff team that has at the least made the second round.

r0drig0lac

09-02-2020, 09:52 AM

cmon trashcal

red1

09-02-2020, 11:16 AM

He's definitely no Joe Harris that's for sure

:roll:

Vino24

09-02-2020, 12:51 PM

It’s not that pascal isn’t good it’s just that Jaylen put the clamps on him

Gougou

09-02-2020, 01:26 PM

He is worth the contract tho, played decent during last years playoffs and final. It is just his lack of experience in the post season I think, he is early in his career still.

HBK_Kliq_2

09-02-2020, 01:51 PM

He has been a negative BPM in playoffs every year of his career, besides the 1 year he played with GOAT Kawhi.

Kawhi got this guy paid. Siakam should be worshipping the ground that Kawhi walks, let Kawhi sleep with his girl and so on.

This guy ain't no damn Pippen, that's for sure.

AirTupac

09-02-2020, 02:14 PM

Rap fans are brain dead just like Siakam is.

Whoah10115

09-02-2020, 02:18 PM

Kawhi got this guy paid. Siakam should be worshipping the ground that Kawhi walks, let Kawhi sleep with his girl and so on.

And then what would you do for a living?

HBK_Kliq_2

09-02-2020, 02:20 PM

And then what would you do for a living?

Hey at least I'm a fan of an actual legend. Not ringless Ewing who couldn't even win when Jordan was playing baseball.

Whoah10115

09-02-2020, 02:27 PM

Hey at least I'm a fan of an actual legend. Not ringless Ewing who couldn't even win when Jordan was playing baseball.

:roll:

HBK_Kliq_2

09-02-2020, 02:33 PM

:roll:

And in the documentary last dance, there was a scene when Jordan was mocking Ewing to his face for always losing to him. Jordan should of told him "I can go play baseball for a year and you still will not win shit, even Pippen will take you to 7". And what was Ewing's TS in 1994 finals? Lol.

Let the big boys like Jordan/LeBron fans handle responding to me. You Ewing fans need to stick to responding to fans of players like Alonzo Mourning.

Real Men Wear Green

09-02-2020, 03:15 PM

And in the documentary last dance, there was a scene when Jordan was mocking Ewing to his face for always losing to him. Jordan should of told him "I can go play baseball for a year and you still will not win shit, even Pippen will take you to 7". And what was Ewing's TS in 1994 finals? Lol.

Let the big boys like Jordan/LeBron fans handle responding to me. You Ewing fans need to stick to responding to fans of players like Alonzo Mourning.
A man should be able to laugh at you regardless of who his favorite player is or isn't.