"Double teams create a 4-on-3 off the ball" - Lebron James

[3ball]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZOzilY8o14&t=01m15s

Accordingly, it's a false narrative that teams don't double Lebron because he's such a good passer, since all double teams create a 4-on-3 that spurs ball movement, as Lebron said himself above

4-on-3's are bad for any defense, not just when Lebron gets doubled.

So when Stan Van Gundy says they didn't double Lebron, it's a legit knock - lebron's 38/8/8 certainly kept the Cavs competitive, but another player's 38/8/8 would've come with double-teams, thus freeing up teammates so they perform better, while opening up ball movement and more effective attack/pressure - this would've allowed victory (as they were heavily-favored to do)

Essentially, other greats would've caused the Magic defense to adjust more and double-team, thus winning the series easily as the heavy favorite.
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[3ball]

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Coaches' statements on guarding Lebron and MJ:



Chuck Daly:

It doesn't entail me playing you, necessarily.. It's our 5.... playing... you"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gCMWuCdsGQ&t=27m41s


Stan Van Gundy:

We didn't double Lebron and played him straight up - so we could stay at home on teammates"



^^^ Pretty stark contrast... :confusedshrug:

[bigkingsfan]

Reported to da police.

[sdot_thadon]

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Yeah, we know. You love Lebron.

[SouBeachTalents]

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Coaches' statements on guarding Lebron and MJ:



Chuck Daly:

It doesn't entail me playing you, necessarily.. It's our 5.... playing... you"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gCMWuCdsGQ&t=27m41s


Stan Van Gundy:

We didn't double Lebron and played him straight up - so we could stay at home on teammates"



^^^ Pretty stark contrast... :confusedshrug:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S1Gp2iwos0&t=

[3ball]

Yeah, we know. You love Lebron.
Lets see how much you know about basketball

Why have teams opted to not double-team Lebron? We know it has nothing to do with his passing because double-teams create a 4-on-3 off-the-ball, which hurts ANY defense.

So why have teams opted to play Lebron straight up?

[ImKobe]

3Ball you have to be honest here. Rules were different in the 90s. Wouldn't MJ have a bunch of 3-point specialists around him in this era to space the floor for him as well?

The issue though would be that you couldn't play man defense on Jordan under today's rules so Jordan would probably average either 8-10 assists or 40+ points a game in his prime (depending on how defenses guarded him) if he played the same amount of minutes on a per game basis. That's why Jordan is better than Lebron though. You could get away with playing man defense on peak Lebron (even sagging off him to force him into jump shots) while you would never get away with doing the same to MJ. Imagine playing zone on Jordan and not expecting him to kill you from the perimeter.

[Hey Yo]

3Ball you have to be honest here. Rules were different in the 90s. Wouldn't MJ have a bunch of 3-point specialists around him in this era to space the floor for him as well?

The issue though would be that you couldn't play man defense on Jordan under today's rules so Jordan would probably average either 8-10 assists or 40+ points a game in his prime (depending on how defenses guarded him) if he played the same amount of minutes on a per game basis. That's why Jordan is better than Lebron though. You could get away with playing man defense on peak Lebron (even sagging off him to force him into jump shots) while you would never get away with doing the same to MJ. Imagine playing zone on Jordan and not expecting him to kill you from the perimeter.
Jordan did imagine that and said what would have happened.


But there was one that might be bothersome, the zone defense. It was the topic du jour at last month's All-Star Game, and Jordan was making an impassioned plea before the competition committee that had gathered to consider rules changes to enliven the NBA game. Jordan spoke passionately. If teams were able to play zone defenses, he said, he never would have had the career he did.

[tpols]

its a dead horse bro.

most people know lebron is a phony... he had GOAT potential... but ended up being a bitch.


:confusedshrug:




no need to rub it in more than 1000 times.

[ImKobe]

Jordan did imagine that and said what would have happened.

Imagine thinking that's actually what would have happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDwJPY-Nneg

Prime Kobe was TORCHING zone defenses, you could argue that 06-08 Kobe saw the most defense out of any perimeter player in NBA history and those are his peak years while having little to no offensive help around him.

Now imagine playing the same defense against peak MJ while he actually has shooters around him. Yes, the zone defense would have been issue for MJ on terrible teams but he still would have put up Kobe numbers.

And can we agree that Kobe would have put up MJ's numbers in the 90s?

[sdot_thadon]

Lets see how much you know about basketball

Why have teams opted to not double-team Lebron? We know it has nothing to do with his passing because double-teams create a 4-on-3 off-the-ball, which hurts ANY defense.

So why have teams opted to play Lebron straight up?
You can't resist banging the same stupid drum can you? The reason teams don't double Lebron, regardless of what your deformed view of reality tells you is the same as it's always been. When you double Lebron you run the risk of what I call an "avalanche game". These are the games when half the team has a hot shooting night due to getting practice level looks because you're doubling Lebron. It's a thing that has happened routinely throughout his career and why his lesser talented teams can sometimes look the part of worldbeaters.

Can anyone who's a good scorer draw this level of attention? Sure, but can everyone whip the pass with the speed and power that he does to give the shooter "that " much more cushion to shoot? Not really. Most good coaches would take their chances with Lebron beating him alone rather than let an entire team gain confidence throughout the course of a series. Watch games man, stop making stupid number based assumptions when you havent bothered to watch any games. How's your police investigation going by the way tekashi?

[3ball]

3Ball you have to be honest here. Rules were different in the 90s. Wouldn't MJ have a bunch of 3-point specialists around him in this era to space the floor for him as well?

The issue though would be that you couldn't play man defense on Jordan under today's rules so Jordan would probably average either 8-10 assists or 40+ points a game in his prime (depending on how defenses guarded him) if he played the same amount of minutes on a per game basis. That's why Jordan is better than Lebron though. You could get away with playing man defense on peak Lebron (even sagging off him to force him into jump shots) while you would never get away with doing the same to MJ. Imagine playing zone on Jordan and not expecting him to kill you from the perimeter.
MJ already averaged 8 or 11 assists in his prime (1989 season and 1991 Finals)

So if he averaged 8 apg today, that would be the same as his 1989 season.

Also, I'm not sure what your point is - are you saying today's spacing would prevent teams from doubling Jordan?... i.e. it's a lot harder to double-team when the defenders are spaced-out and have to travel further distances to double?

I would agree with this - but the extra space would make MJ so devastating as a scorer that it would still be worth it to double team him - defenses would be driven insane on how to guard a 6'6" westbrook that can shoot - essentially, a much better scorer than Harden last year, who averaged 36 ppg..

So pick your poison - an automatic score from MJ in today's spaced out court, or a punitive 4-on-3 when you double him.. Lebron doesn't force defenses into this decision because he isn't an automatic bucket like MJ was

[ImKobe]

MJ already averaged 8 or 11 assists in his prime (1989 season and 1991 Finals)

So if he averaged 8 apg today, that would be the same as his 1989 season.

Also, I'm not sure what your point is - are you saying today's spacing would prevent teams from doubling Jordan?... i.e. it's a lot harder to double-team when the defenders are spaced-out and have to travel further distances to double?

I would agree with this - but the extra space would make MJ so devastating as a scorer that it would still be worth it to double team him - defenses would be driven insane on how to guard a 6'6" westbrook that can shoot - essentially, a much better scorer than Harden last year, who averaged 36 ppg.. Pick you poison - an automatic score from MJ in today's spaced out court, or a punitive 4-on-3 when you double him.. Lebron doesn't force defenses into this decision because he isn't an MJ/rich man's Harden level a scorer like Kobe or MJ

Yes, even more so than Lebron because Jordan's far less predictable.

Jordan's not just a 6'6 Westbrook who can shoot, he's a 6'6 Westbrook with Kawhi's hands and a GOAT mid-range jump shot. It's like if you combined Kobe and Kawhi and added 10 inches of vertical.

[3ball]

You can't resist banging the same stupid drum can you? The reason teams don't double Lebron, regardless of what your deformed view of reality tells you is the same as it's always been. When you double Lebron you run the risk of what I call an "avalanche game". These are the games when half the team has a hot shooting night due to getting practice level looks because you're doubling Lebron. It's a thing that has happened routinely throughout his career and why his lesser talented teams can sometimes look the part of worldbeaters.

Can anyone who's a good scorer draw this level of attention? Sure, but can everyone whip the pass with the speed and power that he does to give the shooter "that " much more cushion to shoot? Not really. Most good coaches would take their chances with Lebron beating him alone rather than let an entire team gain confidence throughout the course of a series. Watch games man, stop making stupid number based assumptions when you havent bothered to watch any games. How's your police investigation going by the way tekashi?
Sorry, double-teams create 4-on-3, which creates the "avalanche" of ball movement/swinging the ball and open jump-shooting regardless of who is doubled.

The "Lebron is too good a passer to double-team" is dumb and false.

He simply isn't a good enough shooter to double-team.. period.. he isn't a quick-hitter scorer.. he isn't a threat to hit 2 or 3 quick jumpers in a row to galavanize his team and win the quarter going away..

Lebron doesn't have it like that.. All his scores are long, lumbering dribble forays that take forever and ultimately don't put defenses on their heels/wear them down like defending against potential quick-hitter scoring.. So teams are fresher guarding Lebron - he doesn't wear them down/blunt their attack, so they often get hot and run his weaker brand off the court.. Lebron's style doesn't win the attrition battle against the best teams
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[Turbo Slayer]

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:D

Haters keep on hating.

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:hammertime:

KING JAMES. #StriveForGreatness

:cry:

[And1AllDay]

brudduh I got bad news for you


But there was one that might be bothersome, the zone defense. It was the topic du jour at last month's All-Star Game, and Jordan was making an impassioned plea before the competition committee that had gathered to consider rules changes to enliven the NBA game. Jordan spoke passionately. If teams were able to play zone defenses, he said, he never would have had the career he did

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But there was one that might be bothersome, the zone defense. It was the topic du jour at last month's All-Star Game, and Jordan was making an impassioned plea before the competition committee that had gathered to consider rules changes to enliven the NBA game. Jordan spoke passionately. If teams were able to play zone defenses, he said, he never would have had the career he did

[Turbo Slayer]

brudduh I got bad news for you



..

But there was one that might be bothersome, the zone defense. It was the topic du jour at last month's All-Star Game, and Jordan was making an impassioned plea before the competition committee that had gathered to consider rules changes to enliven the NBA game. Jordan spoke passionately. If teams were able to play zone defenses, he said, he never would have had the career he did
:bowdown:

[And1AllDay]

:bowdown:
:hammertime: :hammertime:

[Turbo Slayer]

:hammertime: :hammertime:

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:rockon: Miss you bro, how are you doing?!? :banana:

[And1AllDay]

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:rockon: Miss you bro, how are you doing?!? :banana:

life is good bruddah

miss all the homies :banana:

how are things ?

[Turbo Slayer]

life is good bruddah

miss all the homies :banana:

how are things ? My life is good as a 14 yrs old :rockon:

BRING Im Still Ballin BACK!!!!!!!!

+1 :cheers:

Good day to you, sir.

[3ball]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZOzilY8o14&t=01m15s

^^^ Lebron is talks about giving the ball to AD so AD can get doubled, and AD can't pass for shit - so passing ability has nothing to do why you'd double someone.. It's their devastation as a scorer that makes a player worth doubling..

But carry on know-nothings..

[FromDowntown]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZOzilY8o14&t=01m15s

^^^ Lebron is talks about giving the ball to AD so AD can get doubled, and AD can't pass for shit - so passing ability has nothing to do why you'd double someone.. It's their devastation as a scorer that makes a player worth doubling..

But carry on know-nothings..

But you don't think LeBron is a devastating scorer then? I don't get your point.

[3ball]

But you don't think LeBron is a devastating scorer then? I don't get your point.


If Lebron's high PPG was devastating to teams, they wouldn't opt to play him single-coverage in monumental series like the 2009 ECF, 2015 Finals, and many other series..

So obviously, there's something about the way he scores that causes teams to play him straight up.

Teams actually ENCOURAGE Lebron to score by not doubling (Stan Van Gundy said they wanted the ball in Lebron's hands as much as possible in the 09' ECF, so they didn't double him)..

It's because Lebron's scoring is the slow, lumbering kind that requires long dribble forays.. This relegates teammates to spot-up roles and ultimately allows the defense to stand and wait for Lebron - this style is easier to defend than fast ball movement that requires considerable rotations, or reacting to a quick-hitter scorer (hot jumpshooter)

And therein lies the rub - it's his jumpshooting - defenses meet penetrators at the rim with multiple defenders and don't need to double-team them on the perimeter.. so only hot jumpshooters get doubled - i.e. if kobe makes 2-3 jumpers in a row, his team gets juiced and the Lakers win the quarter going away - so defenses double-team guys like him, MJ, or Curry if it looks like they're getting hot and the team is being elevated.

Ultimately, Lebron's style and skillset is too basic - 1 ball-dominator and 4 shooters - this brand is easy to beat at the championship level, and similarly failed in the playoffs for guys like CP3, Nash, Westbrook and Harden.. Lebron was unique in that he team-hopped to obtain a 3rd star, so this normally-failing brand broke through and win a few chips.. But the brand still mostly loses in the championship, to many different teams...

Btw, Nash and Harden are great shooters, so they would occasionally get doubled, but the 1-ball-dominator and 4 shooters brand will never win in the playoffs without the kind of team-hopping talent (3rd star) that Lebron had.
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[Turbo Slayer]

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3ball is confusing :biggums:

[3ball]

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3ball is confusing :biggums:
No, you just have poor reading comp and a short attention span, so i'll make it simpler for you:

Lebron's skillset forces him to take a long time to score with very low points-per-touch (statistical fact)

So opposing coaches WANT him to have the ball as much as possible, so they only have to defend slow, lumbering dribble forays rather than fast, zippy ball movement

MJ, Curry, Kobe and Bird had the skills to get goat stats while the team had zippy ball movement - Lebron doesn't have this skill, so he must engage in long dribble forays to score, and opposing coaches LIKE this.... so they don't double Lebron and let him dribble his team right out of the series (see the 09' ECF or 15' Finals)

was that clear enough and short enough for you?

and yes - the 09' Cavs wouldn't be competitive in the ECF without Lebron's 38/8/8... but another star like MJ or Bird would've achieved stats with great ball movement and getting double-teamed, so the team would've performed much better and won as they were heavily-favored to do
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[RealSkipBayless]

:hammertime: :hammertime:
Couple more months and DnK is back.

Full squad gonna run things again. :banana: :banana:

:hammertime: :hammertime:

[Turbo Slayer]

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Taco Tuesday is in 2 days. :rockon:

Waiting. :pimp:

[Turbo Slayer]

Couple more months and DnK is back.

Full squad gonna run things again. :banana: :banana:

:hammertime: :hammertime:

:rockon:

Once he comes back, WE will dominate this weak ass NBA forum.

Lebron haters for life: 3ball, egokiller, superduper, pickernroller, + imkobe

Lebron stans: ISB ,Turbo Slayer, DnK, And1AllDay, Manny98, BronBron23, RealSkipBayless, and Corporation, and much more.

We have numbers. Strength in Lebron family. :banana:

[3ball]

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Taco Tuesday is in 2 days. :rockon:

Waiting. :pimp:
Lebron "millions over freedom" James

#exposed
#fakejusticewarrior
#LeFraud

[Turbo Slayer]

:rockon:

Once he comes back, WE will dominate this weak ass NBA forum.

Lebron haters for life: 3ball, egokiller, superduper, pickernroller, + imkobe

Lebron stans: ISB ,Turbo Slayer, DnK, And1AllDay, Manny98, BronBron23, RealSkipBayless, and Corporation, and much more.

We have numbers. Strength in Lebron family. :banana: I forgot to mention: FULTZNationRise, SpaceJam, sdothadon and SpaceJam2 too. :applause:

[SpaceJam]

Hey bitch - if I catch you or anyone else from this loser ass board following me, I will beat you down in self defense. You will be in the hospital if I catch you following me as anyone that is following me I will deem a threat to my health

I've already filed police reports against your screen name and others I suspect. Im also getting restraining orders to ban the screen name from playing on the site where you outed yourself as my stalker

Don't let me catch you, you tiny tiny man. You'll be even tinier when I get done with you

[Turbo Slayer]

Hey bitch - if I catch you or anyone else from this loser ass board following me, I will beat you down in self defense. You will be in the hospital if I catch you following me as anyone that is following me I will deem a threat to my health

I've already filed police reports against your screen name and others I suspect. Im also getting restraining orders to ban the screen name from playing on the site where you outed yourself as my stalker

Don't let me catch you, you tiny tiny man. You'll be even tinier when I get done with you
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Turbo Slayer]

Hey bitch - if I catch you or anyone else from this loser ass board following me, I will beat you down in self defense. You will be in the hospital if I catch you following me as anyone that is following me I will deem a threat to my health

I've already filed police reports against your screen name and others I suspect. Im also getting restraining orders to ban the screen name from playing on the site where you outed yourself as my stalker

Don't let me catch you, you tiny tiny man. You'll be even tinier when I get done with you

:biggums:

[3ball]

Hey bitch - if I catch you or anyone else from this loser ass board following me, I will beat you down in self defense. You will be in the hospital if I catch you following me as anyone that is following me I will deem a threat to my health

I've already filed police reports against your screen name and others I suspect. Im also getting restraining orders to ban the screen name from playing on the site where you outed yourself as my stalker

Don't let me catch you, you tiny tiny man. You'll be even tinier when I get done with you

:biggums:
At least I don't think millions and riches for myself is more important than basic freedom for the less fortunate and oppressed, like LeFraud James

Lebron "millions over freedom" James

#exposed
#fakejusticewarrior
#LeFraud

[Turbo Slayer]

At least I don't think millions and riches for myself is more important than basic freedom for the less fortunate and oppressed, like LeFraud James

Lebron "millions over freedom" James

#exposed
#fakejusticewarrior
#LeFraud LeKind built a school in cle. :rockon:
Good stuff. Stop hatin brother. It aint good.

[Rico2016]

Hey bitch - if I catch you or anyone else from this loser ass board following me, I will beat you down in self defense. You will be in the hospital if I catch you following me as anyone that is following me I will deem a threat to my health

I've already filed police reports against your screen name and others I suspect. Im also getting restraining orders to ban the screen name from playing on the site where you outed yourself as my stalker

Don't let me catch you, you tiny tiny man. You'll be even tinier when I get done with you


3ball really wrote this?

And thought it was a 'good' idea to post it?

[3ball]

LeKind built a school in cle. :rockon:
Good stuff. Stop hatin brother. It aint good.
Stop protecting an exposed fraud

He thinks millions and personal riches is more important than basic freedom for the less fortunate and oppressed

Stop supporting the fraud

Lebron "millions over freedom" James

#exposed
#fakejusticewarrior
#LeFraud

[sdot_thadon]

Sorry, double-teams create 4-on-3, which creates the "avalanche" of ball movement/swinging the ball and open jump-shooting regardless of who is doubled.

The "Lebron is too good a passer to double-team" is dumb and false.

He simply isn't a good enough shooter to double-team.. period.. he isn't a quick-hitter scorer.. he isn't a threat to hit 2 or 3 quick jumpers in a row to galavanize his team and win the quarter going away..

Lebron doesn't have it like that.. All his scores are long, lumbering dribble forays that take forever and ultimately don't put defenses on their heels/wear them down like defending against potential quick-hitter scoring.. So teams are fresher guarding Lebron - he doesn't wear them down/blunt their attack, so they often get hot and run his weaker brand off the court.. Lebron's style doesn't win the attrition battle against the best teams
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Like I said before who would expect a guy who doesn't watch basketball games to understand simple concepts like doubling a dangerous playmaker gets you picked apart so you don't do it. He's not a quick hitting scorer because he doesn't play with a scorers mentality, he plays with a balance that scoring or playmaking can happen at any given time so you must always account for both when dealing with Lebron. There have been games where I wished he would attack more but more often than not things worked out for him. MJ's mentality worked great for him and his era, it worked well to a lesser degree for Kobe in the following era, but everyone is their own player. And a quick reminder that Lebron's style worked against the team with the best record ever.

[Ainosterhaspie]

If MJ drawing doubles was such an effective offensive strategy, why did he have to carry the GOAT offensive load you're always talking about. According to airball his teammates couldn't/didn't score, so obviously the other teams weren't being made to pay for doubling him.

[3ball]

Like I said before who would expect a guy who doesn't watch basketball games to understand simple concepts like doubling a dangerous playmaker gets you picked apart so you don't do it. He's not a quick hitting scorer because he doesn't play with a scorers mentality, he plays with a balance that scoring or playmaking can happen at any given time so you must always account for both when dealing with Lebron. There have been games where I wished he would attack more but more often than not things worked out for him. MJ's mentality worked great for him and his era, it worked well to a lesser degree for Kobe in the following era, but everyone is their own player. And a quick reminder that Lebron's style worked against the team with the best record ever.
Lebron isn't a quick-hitter scorer because he doesn't have a great jumpshot.

He can't just come down and start jacking jumpers like Kobe or MJ did - he doesn't get hot and force the opposing coach to call timeouts and shit, whereas MJ/Kobe did all the time ..

every game the opposing coach would call a timeout because MJ/Kobe got hot and now the coach must start planning double teams against them.. the whole team would get juiced when they got hot...

this happened every game for Kobe and MJ, but almost never for lebron.. Coaches want the ball in Lebron's hands like SVG said, because it's easier to defend the basic 1 ball-dominator and 4 shooter setup than zippy ball movement created by a double team... And since Lebron's jumper doesn't get hot, there's no need to double team him like MJ or Kobe... Just let him dribble away to his heart's content (he thinks he's controlling the game, but he's actually being controlled and exploited at the championship level)

Ultimately, it was fun watching MJ and Kobe because you knew they'd get hot and the opposing coach would have to call timeout and start doubling them - it was standard every game and as a fan you'd look forward to this break in the game as a sign that they were "taking over"

But heck, just look at the kind of jumpers Lebron takes - it's nothing like MJ and Kobe - can you even imagine him attempting a floating jumper like the one MJ took over Ehlo?... He doesn't have the touch, the aggressiveness, or the sheer jumpshooting skill to execute tough jumpers like that.. He needs a lot more setup time...

MJ, Kobe, and Bird were just a lot better and their teams were much tougher to defend - their jumpshooting and off-ball play imposed a much tougher routine of movements that the defense had to go through - the defense was on their heels more, and ultimately got worn down so their own attack wasn't as strong.. whereas teams get comfortable defensively against lebron, and start going off offensively... again, Lebron's style doesn't win the attrition battle against the best teams

Btw, Lebron's style doesn't work against the Spurs (lebron is 1-2 against them).... it works even worse against the warriors (1-3), or the Mavs (0-1), or Dwight (0-1)... But yes, it worked once when the series alpha got suspended and Kyrie went apeshit over an injured (or choking) league MVP... Yes, everyone has one-offs where everything comes together perfect .. :rolleyes:... But the reality is that SVG wanted the ball in Lebron's hands - he preferred lebron's extra dribbling and he didn't have to worry about lebron getting hot/the team getting juiced - lebron needs time to drive or shoot, and SVG loved that.. so did the defense
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[DoctorP]

Reported to da police.
:lol

[stalkerforlife]

At least I don't think millions and riches for myself is more important than basic freedom for the less fortunate and oppressed, like LeFraud James

Lebron "millions over freedom" James

#exposed
#fakejusticewarrior
#LeFraud

Got em.

And they don't want that smoke with you.

These nerds will stalk you from afar.

Never will they step in your presence.

[JohnMax]

3ball is telling the truth

[bluechox2]

No shit, if 2 defenders are on you then your left with 3 on the other 4 guys... where this dude get is diploma from

[Uncle Drew]

Hey bitch - if I catch you or anyone else from this loser ass board following me, I will beat you down in self defense. You will be in the hospital if I catch you following me as anyone that is following me I will deem a threat to my health

I've already filed police reports against your screen name and others I suspect. Im also getting restraining orders to ban the screen name from playing on the site where you outed yourself as my stalker

Don't let me catch you, you tiny tiny man. You'll be even tinier when I get done with you

[Mr Feeny]

Lets see how much you know about basketball

Why have teams opted to not double-team Lebron? We know it has nothing to do with his passing because double-teams create a 4-on-3 off-the-ball, which hurts ANY defense.

So why have teams opted to play Lebron straight up?

He doesn't know anything about basketball. It's a Lebron loving kid who thinks that 2011 wasn't a choke and Jordan' late 80s series against the Pistons where he was single handidly leading a garbage bulls roster to more wins than the Western conference champions,were.

He's the laughing stock of the board.

[Mr Feeny]

Like I said before who would expect a guy who doesn't watch basketball games to understand simple concepts like doubling a dangerous playmaker gets you picked apart so you don't do it. He's not a quick hitting scorer because he doesn't play with a scorers mentality, he plays with a balance that scoring or playmaking can happen at any given time so you must always account for both when dealing with Lebron. There have been games where I wished he would attack more but more often than not things worked out for him. MJ's mentality worked great for him and his era, it worked well to a lesser degree for Kobe in the following era, but everyone is their own player. And a quick reminder that Lebron's style worked against the team with the best record ever.

Interestingly enough, he understands basketball while you -very clearly -struggle with the basics.

[sdot_thadon]

Interestingly enough, he understands basketball while you -very clearly -struggle with the basics.
whats more interesting is you gagging on my **** before I've even unzipped my britches lately.:biggums:

[sdot_thadon]

Lebron isn't a quick-hitter scorer because he doesn't have a great jumpshot.

He can't just come down and start jacking jumpers like Kobe or MJ did - he doesn't get hot and force the opposing coach to call timeouts and shit, whereas MJ/Kobe did all the time ..

every game the opposing coach would call a timeout because MJ/Kobe got hot and now the coach must start planning double teams against them.. the whole team would get juiced when they got hot...

this happened every game for Kobe and MJ, but almost never for lebron.. Coaches want the ball in Lebron's hands like SVG said, because it's easier to defend the basic 1 ball-dominator and 4 shooter setup than zippy ball movement created by a double team... And since Lebron's jumper doesn't get hot, there's no need to double team him like MJ or Kobe... Just let him dribble away to his heart's content (he thinks he's controlling the game, but he's actually being controlled and exploited at the championship level)

Ultimately, it was fun watching MJ and Kobe because you knew they'd get hot and the opposing coach would have to call timeout and start doubling them - it was standard every game and as a fan you'd look forward to this break in the game as a sign that they were "taking over"

But heck, just look at the kind of jumpers Lebron takes - it's nothing like MJ and Kobe - can you even imagine him attempting a floating jumper like the one MJ took over Ehlo?... He doesn't have the touch, the aggressiveness, or the sheer jumpshooting skill to execute tough jumpers like that.. He needs a lot more setup time...

MJ, Kobe, and Bird were just a lot better and their teams were much tougher to defend - their jumpshooting and off-ball play imposed a much tougher routine of movements that the defense had to go through - the defense was on their heels more, and ultimately got worn down so their own attack wasn't as strong.. whereas teams get comfortable defensively against lebron, and start going off offensively... again, Lebron's style doesn't win the attrition battle against the best teams

Btw, Lebron's style doesn't work against the Spurs (lebron is 1-2 against them).... it works even worse against the warriors (1-3), or the Mavs (0-1), or Dwight (0-1)... But yes, it worked once when the series alpha got suspended and Kyrie went apeshit over an injured (or choking) league MVP... Yes, everyone has one-offs where everything comes together perfect .. :rolleyes:... But the reality is that SVG wanted the ball in Lebron's hands - he preferred lebron's extra dribbling and he didn't have to worry about lebron getting hot/the team getting juiced - lebron needs time to drive or shoot, and SVG loved that.. so did the defense
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Feenball, you typed all that just to dance around the fact that Lebron doesn't approach a game the way Mj or Kobe does? It's kinda pointless to keep attempting to fit his decision making with theirs when there literally has been no player like Lebron before. I know its a sad prospect for you but Mj did not and could not succeed playing the game the way Lebron does and vice versa for Lebron. They aren't the same guy.

[Mr Feeny]

whats more interesting is you gagging on my **** before I've even unzipped my britches lately.:biggums:

Come back when know the first thing about basketball.

In the meantime, keep trying to convince people that 2011 was an expected loss.

[DoctorP]

whats more interesting is you gagging on my **** before I've even unzipped my britches lately.:biggums:
:lol

[Rico2016]

He doesn't know anything about basketball. It's a Lebron loving kid who thinks that 2011 wasn't a choke and Jordan' late 80s series against the Pistons where he was single handidly leading a garbage bulls roster to more wins than the Western conference champions,were.

He's the laughing stock of the board.


3ball
Alt ball
Melt ball
1ball

Stahp it. Get some help.

[Rico2016]

Come back when know the first thing about basketball.

In the meantime, keep trying to convince people that 2011 was an expected loss.

But you're 3ball and havent watched a game since 1998

So, try again