If Lebron couldn't win with AD, while Kobe won with Pau, what does that say?

[ripthekik]

AD is the best big man in the league right now. Top 5 player.
Forget about Pau. Let's use Shaq to be more fair.

Kobe won 3 in a row with Shaq.
What does it tell you if Lebron can't even win one with AD, the number 1 big man in the league today?

[Real Men Wear Green]

It would say that the season hasn't started yet.

[sdot_thadon]

Umm, it would probably say he won the same thing in year 17 as Kobe......:rolleyes:

[Kblaze8855]

Off the top of my head everyone who won a title with ____ also failed to win one unless it was a one and done so.....not much. Be more of a question if they were gonna play 4-5 years together at the top of their games but they arent even gonna play one with Lebron at the age he is.

Not that "___ won with ___ " really matters because it cant consider who other teams have or a million other factors but....thats another topic.

[No Sir]

Kobe couldnt win with the most dominant player ever 5 out of the 8 years he played with him

[superduper]

It would mean that LeGOAT has never had any halp :(

[Rico2016]

Kobe couldnt win with the most dominant player ever 5 out of the 8 years he played with him

Decimation

[Kiddlovesnets]

It says Lebron is a top 5 all time candidate, while Kobe is the consensus 12th greatest player of all time and was never in top 10 at any year.

[bobopenguin]

well, i dont expect Lebron to carry the team, i am expecting Davis to carry the team to the champion.

[hiphopanonymous]

Decimation
Didn

[Ainosterhaspie]

How many series did Kobe win when he was 35 or older? LeBron will be 35 this post season.

[SouBeachTalents]

[QUOTE=hiphopanonymous]Didn

[ripthekik]

How many series did Kobe win when he was 35 or older? LeBron will be 35 this post season.
Injuries caught up to Kobe, but he already had 5 rings by then. If lebron only has a few years left, then that's too bad, he doesnt have much time left to catch up to Kobe's legacy..

[SouBeachTalents]

Injuries caught up to Kobe, but he already had 5 rings by then. If lebron only has a few years left, then that's too bad, he doesnt have much time left to catch up to Kobe's legacy..
That’s true, considering he surpassed it years ago

[ripthekik]

[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]That

[Hey Yo]

Injuries caught up to Kobe, but he already had 5 rings by then. If lebron only has a few years left, then that's too bad, he doesnt have much time left to catch up to Kobe's legacy..
Multiple trips to Germany for illegal doping caught up to Kobe.

He has 2 rings, not 5.

[hiphopanonymous]

Multiple trips to Germany for illegal doping caught up to Kobe.

He has 2 rings, not 5.
By this logic LeBrons Miami

[ImKobe]

Multiple trips to Germany for illegal doping caught up to Kobe.

He has 2 rings, not 5.

Wade went to Germany as well for his knee issues and we all know Lebron is on roids.

[superduper]

Multiple trips to Germany for illegal doping caught up to Kobe.

He has 2 rings, not 5.

How many rings does LeGOAT have before running away to superteams?

[Hey Yo]

[QUOTE=hiphopanonymous]By this logic LeBrons Miami

[Hey Yo]

How many rings does LeGOAT have before running away to superteams?
How many did Kobe have before demanding to play for the 2nd greatsest franchise in NBA history?? Who happened to already be a contender.

[ripthekik]

How many did Kobe have before demanding to play for the 2nd greatsest franchise in NBA history?? Who happened to already be a contender.
how the hell was lakers already a contender before kobe joined? go look at the roster of that 95-96 lakers team, i dont think you were even born yet :oldlol:

[PJR]

Kobe didn't with anything in his 17th year at age 35. He couldn't even make it 5 games.

[Uncle Drew]

ITT: an American who can't properly speak his own language. Should've stayed retired kik, 2016 was your stop.

[Hey Yo]

how the hell was lakers already a contender before kobe joined? go look at the roster of that 95-96 lakers team, i dont think you were even born yet :oldlol:
The 4 seed, Chico.

What seed were the Nets? You know, the team that wanted to draft him but he told them no cause he had no interest in trying to build a contender. He wanted the easy route to play for a title. He knew he wasn't NBA ready and was glad to hand out towels his first 2 seasons.

[Hey Yo]

Kobe didn't with anything in his 17th year at age 35. He couldn't even make it 5 games.
Due to illegal doping.

[ImKobe]

The 4 seed, Chico.

What seed were the Nets? You know, the team that wanted to draft him but he told them no cause he had no interest in trying to build a contender. He wanted the easy route to play for a title. He knew he wasn't NBA ready and was glad to hand out towels his first 2 seasons.

Imagine thinking Kobe could force his way to the Lakers at age 17 on his own :lol

You do realize the Lakers didn't have Shaq at that point and Magic had retired so that "4 seed" wasn't going to be a contender unless that signing happened? But of course Kobe knew Shaq was signing in advance, right :rolleyes: .

Kobe impressed Jerry West and he made that move possible, the Nets could have drafted Kobe, heck, a bunch of other teams could have but they didn't. Of course teams who made poor draft choices won't admit to them and they'll blame it on the players they missed out on.

[SamuraiSWISH]

LeBron should be expected to win rings playing alongside Anthony Davis ... even at 34.

Especially if his fanboys truly believe the rhetoric they spew about him as a player. Don’t make excuses now.

He’s still one of the best in the league and just acquired the best big man, arguable best player in the league (both sides of the ball) and the 3rd best PER player ever.

That’s like 2013 34 year old Kobe, as good as he was, acquiring prime / peak ish Kevin Garnett to play with.

[Hey Yo]

Imagine thinking Kobe could force his way to the Lakers at age 17 on his own :lol

You do realize the Lakers didn't have Shaq at that point and Magic had retired so that "4 seed" wasn't going to be a contender unless that signing happened? But of course Kobe knew Shaq was signing in advance, right :rolleyes: .

Kobe impressed Jerry West and he made that move possible, the Nets could have drafted Kobe, heck, a bunch of other teams could have but they didn't. Of course teams who made poor draft choices won't admit to them and they'll blame it on the players they missed out on.
Yeah, he did. Why do you think their great starting center Divac was put up for trade to a team who needed a center? It was no secret that Shaq wanted to come to live and play in Cali. So you have Shaq, who's a free agent wantin to go to Cali and a team in Charlotte who would easily trade for Divac if they could.

All they had to do is make sure that no team before Charlotte's 13th pick would draft him. What better way for that to happen?? Is for Kobe's camp to put the memo out that "all teams not named the Lakers don't bother drafting him cause he won't sign with you" Told Calipari and the Nets that he'd play in Italy before signing with the Nets.

Like I said, wasn't NBA ready, but would have been the starting SG for Jersey. He wanted no part in trying to build a contender. He wanted the easy way.

[Hey Yo]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]LeBron should be expected to win rings playing alongside Anthony Davis ... even at 34.

Especially if his fanboys truly believe the rhetoric they spew about him as a player. Don

[superduper]

Superteams or bust... :(

[DoctorP]

Kobes team was stacked, you simpleton.

Gasol, Bynum, Horry, Fisher, Odom, etc.

GTFOH

[IllegalD]

Kobes team was stacked, you simpleton.

Gasol, Bynum, Horry, Fisher, Odom, etc.

GTFOH


Horry was on the 2009-2010 championship teams...? :wtf: :lol

The moment anybody mentions Bynum I know they're a 13 year old that didn't even watch NBA those seasons.

[LoneyROY7]

This man ripthekik really back. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[superduper]

Kobes team was stacked, you simpleton.

Gasol, Bynum, Horry, Fisher, Odom, etc.

GTFOH

Do you realize Fisher is a career 8pgg on 39% player.

This is the player people use to hype up Kobe's help. I realize he hit a few timely shots in his career but he only hit 39% of his shots on 8ppg production.

Imagine if he was ever on Bran's team, he wouldn't last a full season, dude would be in Bran orchestrated trade packages for Kawhi.

[DoctorP]

Horry was on the 2009-2010 championship teams...? :wtf: :lol

The moment anybody mentions Bynum I know they're a 13 year old that didn't even watch NBA those seasons.


whoever, wtf gtfo

who was on that damn team oh yeah metta world .

point is...stacked. and still lost one to the celtics

bynum was effective


just gtfo. to you it was kobe, pau and scrubs.

you still a fool.


:lol :lol

[ImKobe]

Kobes team was stacked, you simpleton.

Gasol, Bynum, Horry, Fisher, Odom, etc.

GTFOH

Bynum was a role player, a mostly injured one at that, averaged 7/5 for the B2B titles
Gasol was a 1x all-star who couldn't win his team a Playoff game in 3 series prior to joining Kobe, zero 30+ pt games past the 2nd round
Horry? :lol bro he was retired by then
Fisher - a career role player who was 34/35 years old and starting
Odom - a solid starter/6th man in the league but never made an all-star team, he was a 10/10 player in those title runs
Ariza was a nobody prior to the 2009 Playoff run and Artest was way past his prime when we signed him in 2009.

Kobe made 3 straight Finals (Bynum and Ariza injured in 2008) and won B2B titles with those guys :lol

[ImKobe]

whoever, wtf gtfo

who was on that damn team oh yeah metta world .

point is...stacked. and still lost one to the celtics

bynum was effective


just gtfo. to you it was kobe, pau and scrubs.

you still a fool.


:lol :lol

2008 Lakers didn't have Bynum and Kobe still beat the Spurs with Gasol struggling against Duncan

So name me the 3rd and 4th best player on the 2009 and 2010 Lakers squads. Lamar Odom and Ariza/Artest? :kobe:

Kobe won B2B titles with teams as bad as the 94 and 95 Rockets when you look at the overall talent. 95 Rockets are actually better because Clyde is miles ahead of Gasol.