It's time for everyone to admit that kawhi is the best player in the world [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

Bronbron23

10-23-2019, 12:47 PM

Yup everyone. Sorry fellow LeBron fans. Our guy had his run but he's on the decline. He may not even be a top 5 player in the game right now. Kawhi, harden, curry, Greek and Anthony Davis may all be better. That's hard for me to say because I really like Bron and dislike curry and harden but it is what it is. In his prime he was better than all of them but he's no longer in his prime.

Sorry curry and harden fans offensively they're as good but kawhi is way better on the defensive end. He also can get much better looks from the mid-range which makes his game more effective for the tough, slowed down games like the finals and late playoff series. Both harden and curry struggle more in physical slowed down half court sets. Harden has a harder time finishing in traffic with the refs letting more go and curry has a harder time getting open looks from the three when the top defences are switching well and negating his goat off ball movement.

Sorry Greek fans. He's on the way and very close to being the best player in the world but he still has a little work to do on the offensive end. He has absolutely no mid range or post game. Deep in the playoffs when the defences turn the game into slow, physical half court games Greek is almost useless on the floor other than being able to get a few offensive rebounds and put backs.

If kd was healthy he'd have a legit argument but he's probably done because of the Achilles's. It's kawhi Leonard's time. He and the clippers are gonna dominate the NBA for the next few years.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy

10-23-2019, 12:51 PM

Durant and Kawhi are 1a/b when healthy.

The rest are fighting for second, third and so forth.

Bronbron23

10-23-2019, 12:55 PM

Durant and KD are a 1a/b when healthy.

The rest are fighting for second, third and so forth.
Ummm durant and kd are the same person or was that the point? Either way I think your underestimating the severity of an Achilles's injury. Kd will still be very good but he'll never be the same.

LAmbruh

10-23-2019, 12:59 PM

nadda, nope

still LeConsensus goat every season going a decade+

it aint us throwing a bundle full of darts at a board every year, picking the closest one that sticks and tediously switching it up annually

and when by annually, u know the formula. #1 guy, #1 team

ImKobe

10-23-2019, 12:59 PM

Ummm durant and kd are the same person or was that the point? Either way I think your underestimating the severity of an Achilles's injury. Kd will still be very good but he'll never be the same.

KD didn't injure the foot he jumps/pushes off of so he'll be fine. KD is a sniper over everything else, he doesn't need much lift or speed to shoot over you in the post and his jumping leg is fine so he'll still be able to shoot his fadeaways and he'll still be able to dunk off one foot. He might look more like Dirk his first year back but he ain't done.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy

10-23-2019, 01:01 PM

Ummm durant and kd are the same person or was that the point? Either way I think your underestimating the severity of an Achilles's injury. Kd will still be very good but he'll never be the same.

I meant Durant and Kawhi.

The achilles injury is something I shouldn't take lightly. But going to assume when healthy, KD will retake his position as a top tier player. With guys like Kawhi, Greek and AD.

Lebron will be at the backend of the top 10. Fringe Top 5 at best. His defense wont have an impact unless he sacrifices a bit of that offense. Which also takes away from stats, and stats are his brand. We'll see though.

superduper

10-23-2019, 01:10 PM

I meant Durant and Kawhi.

The achilles injury is something I shouldn't take lightly. But going to assume when healthy, KD will retake his position as a top tier player. With guys like Kawhi, Greek and AD.

Lebron will be at the backend of the top 10. Fringe Top 5 at best. His defense wont have an impact unless he sacrifices a bit of that offense. Which also takes away from stats, and stats are his brand. We'll see though.

Kawhi is easily at least 2 steps above Giannis and like 3 steps above AD.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy

10-23-2019, 01:12 PM

Kawhi is easily at least 2 steps above Giannis and like 3 steps above AD.

Kawhi's definitely the better of the three.

Bronbron23

10-23-2019, 01:20 PM

KD didn't injure the foot he jumps/pushes off of so he'll be fine. KD is a sniper over everything else, he doesn't need much lift or speed to shoot over you in the post and his jumping leg is fine so he'll still be able to shoot his fadeaways and he'll still be able to dunk off one foot. He might look more like Dirk his first year back but he ain't done.
Not saying he's done. He'll still be good. He'll at best only lose a little bit of a step. Even that little bit is enough to close the gap between him and the 4 or 5 guys that were behind him. That's the best case scenario. Realistically he'll probably lose more than a little. He'll be 32 coming off the worst injury an athlete can suffer.

NBASTATMAN

10-23-2019, 01:23 PM

Kawhi is easily at least 2 steps above Giannis and like 3 steps above AD.

I have to agree.. Kawhi is the best player in the game. KD would have been if he didnt get injured. I would take Giannis over AD and yes KAwhi is a couple of levels better than AD.. Lebron is aging but still a top 5-7 player in the league. The Clips are going to win it. They have three guys that cannot be guarded in one on one situations. Kawhi, Lou Williams and Paul George. They look outright scary considering PG didnt play last night. Lou Williams is just a nightmare to try to guard. He collapsed The Lakers defense at will last night. The dude is out there taking and making incredible shots only a guy like Kyrie and Steph can make but only getting paid like 7 million a year..

Clips win it if they are healthy. Lakers are fielding a team like this was the early 2000's. Too many bigs in a league where the rules are aiding perimeter players.. That will work vs the weaker teams but teams with good perimeter defense wont allow you to score without penetration and the Lakers just dont have enough of those players.. Big ups to Bron I thought he played some good defense but this is a young mans league and Kawhi is just a bigger IN HIS PRIME MJ at this point. He doesnt miss :wtf:

ronniec

10-23-2019, 01:39 PM

I have to agree.. Kawhi is the best player in the game. KD would have been if he didnt get injured. I would take Giannis over AD and yes KAwhi is a couple of levels better than AD.. Lebron is aging but still a top 5-7 player in the league. The Clips are going to win it. They have three guys that cannot be guarded in one on one situations. Kawhi, Lou Williams and Paul George. They look outright scary considering PG didnt play last night. Lou Williams is just a nightmare to try to guard. He collapsed The Lakers defense at will last night. The dude is out there taking and making incredible shots only a guy like Kyrie and Steph can make but only getting paid like 7 million a year..

Clips win it if they are healthy. Lakers are fielding a team like this was the early 2000's. Too many bigs in a league where the rules are aiding perimeter players.. That will work vs the weaker teams but teams with good perimeter defense wont allow you to score without penetration and the Lakers just dont have enough of those players.. Big ups to Bron I thought he played some good defense but this is a young mans league and Kawhi is just a bigger IN HIS PRIME MJ at this point. He doesnt miss :wtf:

Funny thing is, they have bigs like AD, McGee, Bran, Howard... still outrebounded by a shorter Clippers team.

RealSkipBayless

10-23-2019, 01:46 PM

Funny thing is, they have bigs like AD, McGee, Bran, Howard... still outrebounded by a shorter Clippers team.
What's really funny is the Celtics could have had Kawhi for Jaylen Brown. But now they were left no choice but to max out the bust. :oldlol:

guy

10-23-2019, 01:47 PM

Kawhi is easily the best in the league now. He's clearly better than Lebron. Not sure how anyone can make the argument for Giannis based on what happened last ECF. AD hasn't proven anything. Durant might still be good, but I think its safe to say he won't be the same player again. Only player that can challenge is maybe Curry if he goes back to what he did in 2016, but I don't see that.

On another note, if Lebron is on the decline and out of the top 5 picture, which I think he might be, NBA might be in a little trouble. Not even getting into the China thing, but I don't really see anyone currently in the league that could be the face of the league as marketable as Bird, Magic, Jordan, Shaq, Kobe and Lebron have been. Maybe Zion? Don't get me wrong, obviously the NBA is still making a ton of money but I could see them lose some popularity as Lebron starts to become less and less relevant with nobody else really making up for that.

Wardell Curry

10-23-2019, 01:51 PM

LAL

10-23-2019, 02:03 PM

Anyone saw the respect and love Kobe gave to kawhi when he came to his camp? He knows.

Manny98

10-23-2019, 02:08 PM

We're going to act like KD didn't obliterate Kawhi every time they faced

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NBASTATMAN

10-23-2019, 02:18 PM

We're going to act like KD didn't obliterate Kawhi every time they faced

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Before the injury I would def agree. KD def better than Kawhi but after a big injury you cant expect KD to be 100 percent . So Kawhi is the man for now. His midrange jumper is as good or better than MJ's.. And that is saying a ton.. Dude does not miss. And his three point shot is really good too...

Having said that he went to a team that won 50 games without him last season. Lou Williams was the reason the Lakers lost last night. Kawhi looked great in the first half but didnt do much in the second half. Lou Williams and Beverly really did a number on the LaKERS..

kuniva_dAMiGhTy

10-23-2019, 02:30 PM

Having said that he went to a team that won 50 games without him last season. Lou Williams was the reason the Lakers lost last night. Kawhi looked great in the first half but didnt do much in the second half. Lou Williams and Beverly really did a number on the LaKERS..

48 wins.

But whose counting? :confusedshrug:

Bronbron23

10-23-2019, 02:31 PM

We're going to act like KD didn't obliterate Kawhi every time they faced

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Nobody's talking about what happened in the past. Kd usually did get the better of kawhi but overall kawhi has a bigger impact on a game then kd does. Mainly because of defence. Kd is a good defender but he's no kawhi. Again that was the pass though. Post Achilles's kd won't be the same. Your in denial if you think he will.

ronniec

10-23-2019, 02:36 PM

Before the injury I would def agree. KD def better than Kawhi but after a big injury you cant expect KD to be 100 percent . So Kawhi is the man for now. His midrange jumper is as good or better than MJ's.. And that is saying a ton.. Dude does not miss. And his three point shot is really good too...

Having said that he went to a team that won 50 games without him last season. Lou Williams was the reason the Lakers lost last night. Kawhi looked great in the first half but didnt do much in the second half. Lou Williams and Beverly really did a number on the LaKERS..

To a certain extend, I agree that Lou and Bev won the game for Clippers last night, but it was KL's presence helped that.

They are a playoff team no matter what, KL and PG joining make them a contender. This is the difference.
With KL on the floor, Lakers had to spend more attention when defending him, and opened up Lou and Bev a bit.

Bronbron23

10-23-2019, 02:52 PM

It's amazing how easily people forget.

Soon enough, my friends. Soon enough.

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Sorry man Steph had a good run but his time is over. Klay was always the real engine of that team or at very least he was 1b to Curry's 1a. We know warriors and Klay can win without Steph but the Warriors and Steph can't win without klay. They won't even make the playoffs without kray so this year is hopeless.

Next year they'll be good. They'll be healthy with the same core they won with in 15 but they'll have to go up against much tougher teams in the west than they faced then. Lakers, clippers, denver, Mavs and Houston will all be tough.

Unfortunately for curry fans he'll most likely end his career with 0 fmvp's and end up somewhere in the top 15-20 all time in rankings.

Manny98

10-23-2019, 02:53 PM

Nobody's talking about what happened in the past. Kd usually did get the better of kawhi but overall kawhi has a bigger impact on a game then kd does. Mainly because of defence. Kd is a good defender but he's no kawhi. Again that was the pass though. Post Achilles's kd won't be the same. Your in denial if you think he will.
Yes he will be the same, he didn't hurt the Achilles that he explodes off so he'll be fine

If anything KD will be even better as he is no longer restricted by Steve Kerr's system

Even then 80% KD is still better than the rest of the league. Kawhi and the Raptors were legit shook to play KD in the finals :roll:

90sgoat

10-23-2019, 02:53 PM

Kawhi has been the best since 2016, remember he was up 30 against GSW before Zaza injured him.

In fact, Kawhi was even better before his injury!

Lebron was barely, if at all, top 3 since 2015 anyway. Both Durant and Kawhi very clearly better and I'd say Curry was as well.

Lebron might have been the best in the league in 2012, but that's about it and you might call him the best in 2013 as well.

2001 to 08, mostly Shaq and Kobe
2009 and 10, Kobe and Duncan
2010 and 11, Kobe and Wade
2014 and 15, Curry and Durant.
2016 and 17, Kawhi and Durant

Lebron has maybe 2 years where he can be considered the best in the league in his entire career.

stalkerforlife

10-23-2019, 03:15 PM

This isn't even a debate.

Bronbron23

10-23-2019, 03:29 PM

Yes he will be the same, he didn't hurt the Achilles that he explodes off so he'll be fine

If anything KD will be even better as he is no longer restricted by Steve Kerr's system

Even then 80% KD is still better than the rest of the league. Kawhi and the Raptors were legit shook to play KD in the finals :roll:
I'm sure they were shook. Warriors with kd were a cheat code. It was unfair.

Oh and 80% kd isn't anywhere close to the best player in the NBA.

superduper

10-23-2019, 03:40 PM

To a certain extend, I agree that Lou and Bev won the game for Clippers last night, but it was KL's presence helped that.

They are a playoff team no matter what, KL and PG joining make them a contender. This is the difference.
With KL on the floor, Lakers had to spend more attention when defending him, and opened up Lou and Bev a bit.

Man, with defenders watching Kawhi, Lou is going to have a ****ing field day of a season out there :oldlol:

Kingwillball

10-23-2019, 03:46 PM

He had a Hot qtr so did Danny Green. He lit up KCP so does everybody else... RELAX

Manny98

10-23-2019, 04:11 PM

I'm sure they were shook. Warriors with kd were a cheat code. It was unfair.

Oh and 80% kd isn't anywhere close to the best player in the NBA.
Yes he is put KD on any team and they are going to be serious contenders

Kawhi doesn't have that type of impact he wasn't even the MVP of his own team tbh it was Lowry and Van Leet carrying in the clutch moments

He wasn't even the MVP of last night's game Lou was

Bronbron23

10-23-2019, 04:42 PM

Yes he is put KD on any team and they are going to be serious contenders

Kawhi doesn't have that type of impact he wasn't even the MVP of his own team tbh it was Lowry and Van Leet carrying in the clutch moments

He wasn't even the MVP of last night's game Lou was
How do you know lol. He's only been on 2 teams. Both were ridiculously loaded. He won't be a contender on nets that's for sure.

Manny98

12-08-2019, 03:50 PM

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ImKobe

12-08-2019, 03:52 PM

25/7/5/2/1 in just 31 mpg :eek:

RRR3

12-08-2019, 03:56 PM

25/7/5/2/1 in just 31 mpg :eek:
Shooting a Mamba-esque 43.6% and 31.8% from 3.

ArbitraryWater

12-08-2019, 03:58 PM

OP is such an idiot.

Said this when, on the first day of the regular season?

Its confusing to me how people can be this dumb

Ghost1

12-08-2019, 04:01 PM

he's not and neither is bran :oldlol: :oldlol:

ArbitraryWater

12-08-2019, 04:02 PM

Sorry man Steph had a good run but his time is over. Klay was always the real engine of that team or at very least he was 1b to Curry's 1a. We know warriors and Klay can win without Steph but the Warriors and Steph can't win without klay.

Unfortunately for curry fans he'll most likely end his career with 0 fmvp's and end up somewhere in the top 15-20 all time in rankings.

This idiot is literally saying Klay is also top 15-20 all time

Where are the mods to cleanse this place

AirBonner

12-08-2019, 04:04 PM

Yikes Kawhi doesn

ImKobe

12-08-2019, 04:05 PM

This idiot is literally saying Klay is also top 15-20 all time

Where are the mods to cleanse this place

No he's not, he's saying Curry is top 15-20 but the Warriors wouldn't have had the success without Thompson.

ArbitraryWater

12-08-2019, 04:08 PM

No he's not, he's saying Curry is top 15-20 but the Warriors wouldn't have had the success without Thompson.

Are you ****ing blind?

You're completely re-interpreting his post.

Idiots. Idiots everywhere.

ImKobe

12-08-2019, 04:17 PM

Are you ****ing blind?

You're completely re-interpreting his post.

Idiots. Idiots everywhere.

Where in his post does he say that Klay is top 15-20?

Klay is obviously not a superstar/franchise-level player and not once did he say that, he just said that he was the "real engine" of the Warriors, the same way you could argue that Draymond was the leader/engine of that squad, but that doesn't put him on the same level as Steph in terms of individual accolades or production.

SpaceJam2

12-08-2019, 04:20 PM

Yikes Kawhi doesn’t even have to play and the clips would win 50+ games. That MJ impact :lol

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Try this on for size. Toronto was legit 17-5 (63 win pace) without him last year

ArbitraryWater

12-08-2019, 04:23 PM

Where in his post does he say that Klay is top 15-20?

Klay is obviously not a superstar/franchise-level player and not once did he say that, he just said that he was the "real engine" of the Warriors, the same way you could argue that Draymond was the leader/engine of that squad, but that doesn't put him on the same level as Steph in terms of individual accolades or production.

He is literally equaling Klay to Curry in terms of impact/as a player...

there is nothing to 'read into' here.

He called him "at the very least 1b to Curry's 1a", meaning he wasn't just refering to an emotional/locker room POV as one would with Draymond.

Then he FURTHER backed up on said point by saying Klay is more valuable to the team in a winning sense, and that Klay would be better off without Curry than Curry would be without Klay, on the Warriors.

You have reached new levels of retardation for not being able to read on the simplest things.

Seek help, ImKobe. I pray those around you that you're more aware and intelligent IRL.

Bronbron23

12-08-2019, 04:46 PM

He is literally equaling Klay to Curry in terms of impact/as a player...

there is nothing to 'read into' here.

He called him "at the very least 1b to Curry's 1a", meaning he wasn't just refering to an emotional/locker room POV as one would with Draymond.

Then he FURTHER backed up on said point by saying Klay is more valuable to the team in a winning sense, and that Klay would be better off without Curry than Curry would be without Klay, on the Warriors.

You have reached new levels of retardation for not being able to read on the simplest things.

Seek help, ImKobe. I pray those around you that you're more aware and intelligent IRL. first off its the regular season. I still believe kawhi will ne the best player come playoff time which is when the season really begins. The regular season more than ever is just going through the motions.

And yes i still believe klay on that warrriors team is just as important or impactful as curry. Im a heavy believer in defence being almost as important as offence and when you factor in klays defence he is absolutely as important to the warriors as curry is. This is backed up by there records when each are out. The best example being when curry was hurt in 16 and the warriors didnt miss a beat. This is also backed up by just pure common sense. the gap between curry and klay defensively is way bigger than the gap between them offensively.

You and alot of other people really underestimate klay. Mainly because his game isnt as sexy as steph and Steph is much more exciting to watch.

That said im not saying klay is a better player than curry straight up. I think on most teams curry would clearly be more impactful that klay but in the warriors system klay is as good or very close to steph.

egokiller

12-08-2019, 04:49 PM

Imagine if Kawhi had a player that can score 37 points in a qtr if given the green light? :eek:

Marchesk

12-08-2019, 04:52 PM

It's Giannis. 30.8/13.1/5.4/1.3/1.3 on 56.4%

14 game win streak. Beat down of Clippers. No load management.

Marchesk

12-08-2019, 04:53 PM

25/7/5/2/1 in just 31 mpg :eek:

Giannis only playing 31.4 mpg. Much better stats.

Bronbron23

12-08-2019, 04:55 PM

This idiot is literally saying Klay is also top 15-20 all time

Where are the mods to cleanse this place
Nah dude i was saying curry will be a top 15-20 all time. Klay wont be anywhere near that. Im talking about impact specifically on the warriors team with the way they play. They share the ball and use alot of cuts,screens and off ball movement. In this setting when you factor in klays superior defence klay is just as important or at least very close.

In a different system that say emphasis alot of iso and less movement klay wouldnt be even close because hes not close to steph when it comes to creating his own shot.

Anyone arguing this dosnt know what there talking about

ArbitraryWater

12-08-2019, 04:56 PM

first off its the regular season. I still believe kawhi will ne the best player come playoff time which is when the season really begins. The regular season more than ever is just going through the motions.

And yes i still believe klay on that warrriors team is just as important or impactful as curry. Im a heavy believer in defence being almost as important as offence and when you factor in klays defence he is absolutely as important to the warriors as curry is. This is backed up by there records when each are out. The best example being when curry was hurt in 16 and the warriors didnt miss a beat. This is also backed up by just pure common sense. the gap between curry and klay defensively is way bigger than the gap between them offensively.

You and alot of other people really underestimate klay. Mainly because his game isnt as sexy as steph and Steph is much more exciting to watch.

That said im not saying klay is a better player than curry straight up. I think on most teams curry would clearly be more impactful that klay but in the warriors system klay is as good or very close to steph.

:roll:

like when they were in a dogfight with Portland and Curry came back to save the day?

Im guessing Payton > Magic because the defensive gap is bigger than the offensive one?

Bronbron23

12-08-2019, 04:58 PM

:roll:

like when they were in a dogfight with Portland and Curry came back to save the day?

Im guessing Payton > Magic because the defensive gap is bigger than the offensive one?
Dog fight they were up 2-1 im pretty sure. And that magic and payton comparison is just stupid for a bunch of reasons.

ArbitraryWater

12-08-2019, 05:08 PM

Nah dude i was saying curry will be a top 15-20 all time. Klay wont be anywhere near that. Im talking about impact specifically on the warriors team with the way they play. They share the ball and use alot of cuts,screens and off ball movement. In this setting when you factor in klays superior defence klay is just as important or at least very close.

In a different system that say emphasis alot of iso and less movement klay wouldnt be even close because hes not close to steph when it comes to creating his own shot.

Anyone arguing this dosnt know what there talking about

you make no sense

who do you think enables the GSW system?

:facepalm

every team could run the ball

you're so low IQ its insane

Dog fight they were up 2-1 im pretty sure. And that magic and payton comparison is just stupid for a bunch of reasons.

reasons you cant explain because the world as you know it makes no sense when questioned

Bronbron23

12-08-2019, 05:14 PM

It's Giannis. 30.8/13.1/5.4/1.3/1.3 on 56.4%

14 game win streak. Beat down of Clippers. No load management.
I like greek ive actually said i think he'll end up dominating this decade, i just dont think hes ready this year. Maybe next and most certainly 2 year from now.

And I cant put to much stock into the regular season beat down the other day. Regular season dosnt really mean a whole lot.

Bronbron23

12-08-2019, 05:27 PM

you make no sense

who do you think enables the GSW system?

:facepalm

every team could run the ball

you're so low IQ its insane

reasons you cant explain because the world as you know it makes no sense when questioned
No they couldn't dumbass. sure any team can but they wouldnt be as effective. Warriors have the 2 best shooters ever in the history of the game. They also have the 2 goat off ball movers intl the history of the game. This along with there ball movement makes them extremely hard to defend. Take either guy out and theyre not the same.

That said the warriors pre kd have a winning record including the playoffs when curry is out. They have a losing record when klay is out. How could this be if its just steph that enables the offence? What your dumbass isnt comprehending is that yes the warriors are a little better offensively when curry is there. When hes not though there much better defensively because as you know steph is the warriors weak link defensively.

Calling me stupid? Your living in a glass house homeboy :facepalm

SpaceJam2

12-08-2019, 05:27 PM

Lebron23

12-08-2019, 05:29 PM

Kawhi and the Raptors beat an injured Warriors team.

FromDowntown

12-08-2019, 05:34 PM

Post season Kawhi Leonard is a different animal

ImKobe

12-08-2019, 05:44 PM

Giannis only playing 31.4 mpg. Much better stats.

He's my favorite to win MVP, easily has the worst supporting cast of the top MVP candidates (Harden, AD, Kawhi) and will likely finish with the #1 seed again.

Bronbron23

12-08-2019, 05:51 PM

Who is better (by FAR) Klay Thompson or Jeff Hornacek?
Obviously klay Thompson ray finkle

NBAGOAT

12-08-2019, 05:54 PM

He's my favorite to win MVP, easily has the worst supporting cast of the top MVP candidates (Harden, AD, Kawhi) and will likely finish with the #1 seed again.

Giannis is better than harden but does not easily have a worse cast than him. Westbrook

Uncle Drew

12-08-2019, 05:55 PM

He's my favorite to win MVP, easily has the worst supporting cast of the top MVP candidates (Harden, AD, Kawhi) and will likely finish with the #1 seed again.
:oldlol: the forum clown thinking people wouldn

RRR3

12-08-2019, 05:56 PM

[QUOTE=NBAGOAT]Giannis is better than harden but does not easily have a worse cast than him. Westbrook

Smoke117

12-08-2019, 05:57 PM

He's my favorite to win MVP, easily has the worst supporting cast of the top MVP candidates (Harden, AD, Kawhi) and will likely finish with the #1 seed again.

Giannis has been the MVP and DPOY for the first quarter of this season. He is a beast. People go on about AD for DPOY, but Giannis has been even better. Bucks are the number one defensive team with a 101.6 drating and Giannis is the league leader in drating with a 95. Even if it stays the way it is they will probably give it to Davis because that's the narrative the media is going with, but as of now he doesn't deserve it over Giannis and probably wont by the end of the season.

Bronbron23

12-08-2019, 05:58 PM

Kawhi and the Raptors beat an injured Warriors team.
For sure. If kd is there its a different story. Kawhi was a beast all playoffs though. He was easily the best player in the playoffs regardless. If lebron and kd was there hed most likely be the third best. The only reason why i put kawhi over lebron is because of brons age. I feel like hes declined a bit and that this regular season is a bit of fools gold as far as how good he lools. I think theyll need him to score more come post season and i dont know if his first step will be good enough to penetrate in the half court and i still dont trust his midrange and three game in a tight post season series. That said he does look good. I wouldn't be surprised if end up being wrong. It is lebron were talking about.

Manny98

12-08-2019, 06:04 PM

Kawhi has been awful this season, he's not even top 5 right now :oldlol:

1. LeBron
2. Giannis

3. Doncic
4. Harden

5. Butler/AD

SpaceJam2

12-08-2019, 06:14 PM

Kawhi has been awful this season, he's not even top 5 right now :oldlol:

1. LeBron
2. Giannis

3. Doncic
4. Harden

5. Butler/AD

Big fax

theballerFKA Ace

12-08-2019, 06:22 PM

Due to the fact Lebron failed to get us into the playoffs last year, I must give ranking

1. Giannis
2. Anthony Davis
3. Luka
4. Harden
5. Lebron
6abc. Curry, KD, Kawhi

Mask the Embiid

01-04-2020, 06:48 PM

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SouBeachTalents

01-04-2020, 07:24 PM

kuniva_dAMiGhTy

01-04-2020, 07:32 PM

Kawhi is a postseason player.

If its not a BO7, I would think Kawhi and LA have an understanding that its not in their best interest he goes FULL bore. Because of that its tough to evaluate him in the regular-season. Its not an excuse either, just saying.

Lol, Kawhi doesn't even have 1/100th the standards or expectations that LeBron does. Imagine LeBron losing at home to Memphis by 25 points, with 2 teammates scoring 25+ each. There'd be a dozen threads on the front page, with Kawhi though, not even a peep :lol

He doesn't have a legion of fanboys like Bran either :oldlol:

tpols

01-04-2020, 07:46 PM

Lol, Kawhi doesn't even have 1/100th the standards or expectations that LeBron does. Imagine LeBron losing at home to Memphis by 25 points, with 2 teammates scoring 25+ each. There'd be a dozen threads on the front page about it, Kawhi though, not even a peep :lol

he's a bitch for the load management stuff, but peak play kawhi will own bran. (playoffs)

his timely scoring and shotmaking are on a totally different level that has bran shook.

ArbitraryWater

01-04-2020, 07:53 PM

:lol

knicksman

01-04-2020, 07:56 PM

Lol, Kawhi doesn't even have 1/100th the standards or expectations that LeBron does. Imagine LeBron losing at home to Memphis by 25 points, with 2 teammates scoring 25+ each. There'd be a dozen threads on the front page about it, Kawhi though, not even a peep :lol

Seriously bro? Kawhi is already better all time. Id draft him first over bron if theres an all time draft. He already exceeded our expectations. For a guy who has no MVPs, hes outperforming a 4 time MVP. LOL Want lower expectations? then dont win MVPs/statpad. Simple as that.

Bronbron23

01-04-2020, 11:51 PM

Shogon

01-04-2020, 11:53 PM

Just wait for the playoffs yall. When the d gets better and the refs allow for more physical play kawhi will stand out as usual. Mainly because hes probably the only star player other than kd who's hurt, who has a complete game. He can drive, post up, go to the mid range or and shoot threes. Who else can u say that about? Harden? Nope. Greek? Nope. Luka? Nope. Lebron? Nope.

Just wait yall will see.

We'll see. He's getting to the point where he's semi consistently inefficient on days WITH rest... once those back to backs in the playoffs really start pounding in, we will see.

Not that I have a strong opinion one way or the other... I just think it's funny you're so confident when Kawhi has done nothing but display that his condition worsens with each year and month that passes.

Bronbron23

01-05-2020, 12:26 AM

We'll see. He's getting to the point where he's semi consistently inefficient on days WITH rest... once those back to backs in the playoffs really start pounding in, we will see.

Not that I have a strong opinion one way or the other... I just think it's funny you're so confident when Kawhi has done nothing but display that his condition worsens with each year and month that passes.
Yeah i definitely hear you. He dosnt look consistently great. I felt the same way last year though even during the olayoffs and finals he looked slow and hobbled but he still performed and elevated his game. I just feel like he dosnt try his hardest in the regular season but like you say we'll see.

LAmbruh

09-16-2020, 12:06 AM

LAmbruh

09-16-2020, 12:07 AM

he's a bitch for the load management stuff, but peak play kawhi will own bran. (playoffs)

his timely scoring and shotmaking are on a totally different level that has bran shook.

:yaohappy:

TheCorporation

09-16-2020, 12:08 AM

Kawhi has been awful this season, he's not even top 5 right now :oldlol:

1. LeBron
2. Giannis

3. Doncic
4. Harden

5. Butler

This

LoneyROY7

09-16-2020, 12:08 AM

Kawhi couldn't play up to Bron's standards. Left him hanging. :(

TheCorporation

09-16-2020, 12:08 AM

he's a bitch for the load management stuff, but peak play kawhi will own bran. (playoffs)

his timely scoring and shotmaking are on a totally different level that has bran shook.

Zamn :roll: :roll:

Manny98

09-27-2020, 05:05 AM

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SouBeachTalents

09-27-2020, 05:15 AM

Seriously bro? Kawhi is already better all time. Id draft him first over bron if theres an all time draft. He already exceeded our expectations. For a guy who has no MVPs, hes outperforming a 4 time MVP. LOL Want lower expectations? then dont win MVPs/statpad. Simple as that.
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