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[Draz]

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[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Also on the journey wichu.

Been a teacher and switching to IT. Quality Assurance. Need to learn Java programming and Selenium.

Too many unruly kids drives me bonkers.

[FultzNationRISE]

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[CelticBaller]

learn SQL and python

[enayes]

Good luck with the career change.

I was a targeted case manager for about 6 months, had 10-15 individuals on my caseload. Job was okay but I was new to the area so I had to learn about all the available resources.

I went to school for teaching but decided during/after student teaching that it just wasn't for me. Classroom management is not easy.

I've been working as a postman with USPS for the last 3+ years and I love it. Practically zero stress and I'm outside walking on my own for the majority of the day :pimp:

[Jasper]

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[highwhey]

don't mean to hijack this thread, but can you continue to use 2 separate hard drives when you cloned them?

i cloned the hd of my old pc and put it in my new pc. was hoping to give me my old pc away to a family member but idk if windows will continue to work since it's a cloned drive.

[Draz]

I’m curious what being a case manager at a shelter entails. What kind of stuff do you do day-to-day?

Also, do you work for the gov or a nfp?
Hundreds of paperwork and filing. Intakes when they first come into shelter they’re called conditional depending if they transferred or they’re new to shelter. I did an intake this morning they’re usually an hour or more long depending on the family size and their ability to answer questions/sign documents.

Clients are meeting with me daily at their usually scheduled appointment for a ‘ILP Review’ (independent living plan) which we revise and they’re tasked on each but not limited to more:
Benefits
Education
Childcare
Employment
Housing
Childwelfare (IF applicable/ACS involvement)
etc.

Clients are tasked as ‘must’ do the following for example:
Must provide updated physicals
Must provide employment verification
Must provide proof of housing and employment search logs to me
Must attend any Public Assistance appointments
Must keep an open PA case with full benefits
Must meet with the housing specialist

Utilizing CARES, the software as a service (government owned) it is very very slow. Millions of people trying to access the website slows it down. A 10 minute ILP review would be 45-60 minutes per client.

Clients must provide to me documentation, updated proof that I request for them achieving mission goals needed for permanent housing.

After the client meets with me, I generate an appointment slip and they sign their ILP whether they complied or not they’ll be able to see

I have to coordinate with ACS workers for my clients and ensure they’re following protocol, etc. on a weekly basis (report due) to my supervisors.

Ensuring clients are attending school and if not, why, case conference them

Unit inspections weekly, I do physical supervision of their rooms ensuring it’s safe and they’re following protocols within their rooms. I’m in a family shelter where it’s a hotel. Generally speaking, they get house cleaning service daily but the rooms would be like shit.

I have to enter progress notes (case notes) into CARES through each engagement with clients including ILP reviews, etc.

There’s a lot more. I picked this all up without any training and I’m actually on my way to my third training at the city (DHS) since being hired a month and a half ago. This should have been done.

I dealt with computers not working and using my own computer just because of how slow it was.

I’m definitely just hanging on now to supplement my future career and training resources. Although, I’ll always have a job now in shelter, it’s very difficult and stressful. The clients think this is their home and they know it all. They’re too comfortable and confident in living for free. I have clients making $75k+ that are fine with where they are despite being able to move out.

Just today a client I have a great relationship had the cops called on her because she burst into my room and my assistant program directors room earlier screaming and shouting. She had 4 ACS workers come visit her yesterday which she wasn’t in her unit but her child was in another clients room unsupervised by herself. She was pissed because she got into a fight in front of me with a stranger on the road who they seen her smack her daughter, thus, opening an ACS case which she’s pissed about.

It’s not worth the pay. Plain and simple. Having 27 families and being the only CM shows my skill set and hard work but it’s not worth it. I go home and work. I come in an hour early before clocking in and work off the clock. I have no help or assistance or, guidance because my management isn’t on site due to covering for the turnover at other shelters.

If I stick it out I’d probably be a supervisor in 1-2 years tops but my pay would be $50k-55k and more of a workload and responsibility.

Why do that when I can be a normal old help desk and make what I’m making now $43,680 and more with less stress and more upside with system admin in 5-7 years making $60k-80k.

I just need to figure out how and when can I study. There’s this school my friend who’s working at Outbrain making $65k in IT is attending for his CCNA that does A+ and other cert training for a month.

I’m considering either self learning and skipping the training I’d have to pay for, but at this rate, the money doesn’t mean much to me if the hands on training in person with other people will benefit me more then cramming material alone.

I’ll seek to get my A+ then try to look into Net+ and CCNA. I don’t necessarily want to get into Networking because the rumor is, Networking opportunities are fading and won’t be as valued anymore moving forward. I’m highly interested in Cloud and this is blowing up.

If anyone can offer some advice, I’d appreciate it.

[Bosnian Sajo]

If you want a low stress, well paying job where you will have ample amount of free time...look into becoming a SQL Developer. You mentioned you want to get into Cloud, and that's fine, but that's a little more specialized and will take you a while to get a solid role. SQL you can learn that fairly quickly and end up with a job paying you $25/hr plus almost instantly, and it only goes up from there.


Every single company in America needs SQL Developers, and yet in our roles we can only do so much in a day to day situation. There will be times when you are super busy, but most of the time you'll be shooting out deployments in the morning before others get to the office to use the data, so you'll work from like 7am-11am and then be chilling after that basically lol. Not a bad gig at all for low stress/good pay.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Programming jobs will work you. The Devs at my office are always working and complain about directors/supervisors asking for more and more and more....I and the rest of the database staff don't have that issue.

[Draz]

If you want a low stress, well paying job where you will have ample amount of free time...look into becoming a SQL Developer. You mentioned you want to get into Cloud, and that's fine, but that's a little more specialized and will take you a while to get a solid role. SQL you can learn that fairly quickly and end up with a job paying you $25/hr plus almost instantly, and it only goes up from there.


Every single company in America needs SQL Developers, and yet in our roles we can only do so much in a day to day situation. There will be times when you are super busy, but most of the time you'll be shooting out deployments in the morning before others get to the office to use the data, so you'll work from like 7am-11am and then be chilling after that basically lol. Not a bad gig at all for low stress/good pay.

Is this what you do? I took some SQL app training I downloaded and I was doing pretty good on the Quiz

[CelticBaller]

If you want a low stress, well paying job where you will have ample amount of free time...look into becoming a SQL Developer. You mentioned you want to get into Cloud, and that's fine, but that's a little more specialized and will take you a while to get a solid role. SQL you can learn that fairly quickly and end up with a job paying you $25/hr plus almost instantly, and it only goes up from there.


Every single company in America needs SQL Developers, and yet in our roles we can only do so much in a day to day situation. There will be times when you are super busy, but most of the time you'll be shooting out deployments in the morning before others get to the office to use the data, so you'll work from like 7am-11am and then be chilling after that basically lol. Not a bad gig at all for low stress/good pay.
Don’t you have an MIS degree? Are you a database consultant?

I’m thinking I might leave investment

[FultzNationRISE]

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[Bosnian Sajo]

Is this what you do? I took some SQL app training I downloaded and I was doing pretty good on the Quiz’s. It seems like the least hardest language to learn. Anywhere I can learn it? Perhaps I can get my A+, learn SQL to go hand in hand?

Yes, I do it for a living and was recently approached for a gig closer to home paying $65k and offering bonuses between 15-25% at the end of the year depending on company performance. Doesn't mean I will land that gig, but they approached me and are a reputable company (owned by progressive). At the moment I'm making roughly $50k at my current job. Not counting benefits.

Hands down the best way to learn SQL is to apply for entry level positions and learn from the DBA that will be training you. No amount of practice on your own will ever replicate real life situations. Good part is, these companies looking for entry level SQL people have no issues with training you from the ground up. Learn the basics, take a Database course in a school near you, legit I took 1 database class during my degree and that's all I knew of SQL and was able to land a gig (after additional 6 months of IT experience at my first job) and then apply for entry level jobs saying you took that course and list all your qualifications. SSMS is the goto for professionals, in school though you probably will be using MySQL.


As far as certs go, I have zero. Certs can be useful, sure, but you don't need them if you get experience under your belt.


Experience >> Certs & School...combined.

[Bosnian Sajo]

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[Bosnian Sajo]

Btw Draz, when you say it's the "least hardest" language to learn I'm not sure what you mean by that. Yes, it's pretty straight forward when it comes to the simple stuff like querying tables and such, but there is so much more to it that school never even approaches. I don't think I did ANY procedure/function work in school, yet I use those almost everyday at work. I definitely wasn't creating SSIS packages at school, nor did they teach me how to create my own data types or apply extended properties. Like yea, it's straight forward if you're looking at a book with a step by step guide. It's a whole other thing when you're on the job and a data manager asks for x, y and z and it's your job to figure out how to get them what they want.


The language itself is easy to understand, sure. But there is so so much more to it, that's why I said the best way to learn it is to apply and accept an entry level role. Even if it's in the 30's, take that shit and look at it as if it were school. Within a year you'll be ready to apply for jobs paying $50k plus.

[CelticBaller]

Yes I finished MIS at the end of 2018. I worked as a programmer for about 6 months (very low paying, entry level..) before I accepted the role of assistant DBA around March, which is paying me what I was expecting to get coming out of college. Not a database consultant, gotta have some experience before you can become a consultant...which btw pays very handsomely from what I've heard, but get ready to travel a lot if that's your goal.



I hear Investment banking you can make good money but it's stressful and long hours...I refuse to work more than 40hrs per week for someone else unless there is overtime involved or they paying me stupid cash (6 figures, got a ways to go before I get that). SQL roles (especially entry level) are lax asf.

There's a lot of jobs in investment banking. the Front Office (client facing jobs) is where the $200k+ "80 hours a week during busy period" is. There's other jobs in the middle and back office that also pay very well if the bank/hedge fund is doing well, and they don't work those crazy hour. For example I work in the middle office for an asset management company of an insurance company and I don't work those 80 hours(though I have worked 60 a lot this years)

I'm tired of it though, I want to become a consultant and then settle at a f500 company as a vp or something lol

[Bosnian Sajo]

There's a lot of jobs in investment banking. the Front Office (client facing jobs) is where the $200k+ "80 hours a week during busy period" is. There's other jobs in the middle and back office that also pay very well if the bank/hedge fund is doing well, and they don't work those crazy hour. For example I work in the middle office for an asset management company of an insurance company and I don't work those 80 hours(though I have worked 60 a lot this years)

I'm tired of it though, I want to become a consultant and then settle at a f500 company as a vp or something lol


"settle at a f500 company as a vp or something" lol. That doesn't sound like settling to me, that's the dream for a lot of people. Gotta keep expectations realistic my man, it'll lead to less disappointment and a happier life.


If you don't mind me asking, how much do you make in investment banking?

[CelticBaller]

I made 85k after bonus last year, north eastern high COL area though

I haven't been in the company for that long either, and before that I was doing regular accounting stuff. So that's pretty much an entry level salary

[Bosnian Sajo]

I made 85k after bonus last year, north eastern high COL area though

I haven't been in the company for that long either, and before that I was doing regular accounting stuff. So that's pretty much an entry level salary


Jeeezeee. That's pretty awesome, but like you said you are working more hours. Regardless, I'd do it for $85k. North east (not counting New York) is basically the same expenses as SoFlo, both are expensive asf.


If I were you, I'd keep doing that for the next 3-4 years, stack cash, and buy property. My goal isn't to be a corporate America slave for long. 10 years max, stack cash and buy real estate. Live off of the land you own :cheers:

[Draz]

Bos you in NYC?

[Bosnian Sajo]

Nah, like I mentioned earlier I'm in Southern Florida.