Ayton Facing Suspension

[FireDavidKahn]

https://twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1187533535520780288?s=19

[eliteballer]

Wow...

[bigkingsfan]

This couldn't happen yesterday... come on NBA.

[DoctorP]

:lol

wtf was it?

[juju151111]

25 games wtf

[highwhey]

considering he was bullying the fck out of everyone yesterday and jokic couldn't even move him in preseason...i'm guessing steroids.

fyi, he tested positive for a drug that makes u piss...so maybe he took itinhope to get another drug out of his system....eitheir way :facepalm

[DoctorP]

considering he was bullying the fck out of everyone yesterday and jokic couldn't even move him in preseason...i'm guessing steroids.

fyi, he tested positive for a drug that makes u piss...so maybe he took itinhope to get another drug out of his system....eitheir way :facepalm

:lol
i seriously doubt it

[highwhey]

he had 4 blocks yesterday...shut the paint down. already has a good offensive game...25 games is way too much.

hoping its 10.

[bison]

he had 4 blocks yesterday...shut the paint down. already has a good offensive game...25 games is way too much.

hoping its 10.

It

[LoneyROY7]

Boy on that deca and that clen. :lol :lol

[juju151111]

This some BS.

[RoseCity07]

This is bullshit. The Suns are finally starting to get good and now this.:facepalm

25 games is absurd by the way. Especially since the "drug" was probably accidently ingested.

[highwhey]

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Follow-up testing on Phoenix's Deandre Ayton showed no traces of any other banned substances, sources with knowledge of results tell ESPN. NBPA is likely to fast-track arbitration process to push for a reduction as soon as possible, per sources.

PLEASE 10

[highwhey]

This is bullshit. The Suns are finally starting to get good and now this.:facepalm

25 games is absurd by the way. Especially since the "drug" was probably accidently ingested.
players association is trying to reduce it to half that

suns looked great last night, can't afford this bs rn

[LoneyROY7]

NBA doesn't want Sticky Ricky to win!

Racism wins out again.

[highwhey]

https://twitter.com/Bishnoff/status/1187538094016217088?s=19

so it's a 10 game suspension, why did they enforce a 25 game ban? wtf

[highwhey]

they see us win one game and the league hits us with random drug tests :facepalm

[bobopenguin]

they see us win one game and the league hits us with random drug tests :facepalm

if u didnt take drug, why would u be worried?
Ban that mfker.

[DoctorP]

NBA doesn't want Sticky Ricky to win!

Racism wins out again.

clearly this is the case

[Proctor]

:sleeping :sleeping :sleeping Take Rubio with you

[ImKobe]

When are we going to test Lebron?

[FireDavidKahn]

He is using the I have no idea what I was using defense.

The types of diuretics the NBA prohibits are all ones you need a prescription for.

Furthermore if it really was a mistake then show the world the product you took.

[tpols]

dont see the problem... everybodys on something and if you really want a cloak you can take euro or russian developed "PED's".

[Smoke117]

When are we going to test Lebron?

What kind of idiot wants a player on his own team tested? :facepalm

[DoctorP]

What kind of idiot wants a player on his own team tested? :facepalm


:lol

apparently hes a kobe loyalist :lol

[ImKobe]

What kind of idiot wants a player on his own team tested? :facepalm

what? I'm a Nets fan.

[DoctorP]

what? I'm a Nets fan.

whats up w the laker avatar? lose a bet?

[ImKobe]

whats up w the laker avatar? lose a bet?

oops, wrong account

[DoctorP]

oops, wrong account

:lol

https://media2.giphy.com/media/2XskdWz9y363OIIeLPq/giphy.gif

[Doranku]

25 games for a diuretic? They don't even know what he was on (if anything). :biggums:

[FreezingTsmoove]

Thats bullshit! The guy has clearly been doping his ass off the entire offseason and you only give him 25 games? The physcial advantage will still be there after he returns! Teach this young steroid head a lesson and take him out the whole season!!!

[90sgoat]

The purpose of this "suspension" is to send a message to the league stars, that the NBA plans on tightening up.

I bet Silver feels the heat with the recent Lebron bs and the way the US got destroyed in FIBA.

They've tightened up travel calls.

This sends a message to the Lebrons, the Giannis, the Haywards of the league that bulking up 30lbs in the offseason is no longer safe.

They chose Ayton, because he is a semi-star, but young enough to recover from it.

Make no mistake, if they got Ayton, they could get 50 others. This is not about Ayton, this is a message.

[highwhey]

The purpose of this "suspension" is to send a message to the league stars, that the NBA plans on tightening up.

I bet Silver feels the heat with the recent Lebron bs and the way the US got destroyed in FIBA.

They've tightened up travel calls.

This sends a message to the Lebrons, the Giannis, the Haywards of the league that bulking up 30lbs in the offseason is no longer safe.

They chose Ayton, because he is a semi-star, but young enough to recover from it.

Make no mistake, if they got Ayton, they could get 50 others. This is not about Ayton, this is a message.
it's straight up BS tho. the rule says 10 game ban for a first time offense...he got 25 :wtf:

[Uncle Drew]

What's the outrage with 25 games? In other sports, any positive test gets you 2 years.

[scuzzy]

He must have got greedy and drove to CVS instead of Southbeach


Every knows the only way to get the advanced gear is in Miami by personal pickup. No courior, No airmail


The chemists need that in person signature for extra anonymity and hush hush.

[ILLsmak]

considering he was bullying the fck out of everyone yesterday and jokic couldn't even move him in preseason...i'm guessing steroids.

fyi, he tested positive for a drug that makes u piss...so maybe he took itinhope to get another drug out of his system....eitheir way :facepalm

Yea my mind is ****y lately so I was like how is a diuretic a ped but that's the answer if there is one. They might be able to worm out of part of it as a accident tho.

-Smak

[Bosnian Sajo]

25 games for a diuretic? They don't even know what he was on (if anything). :biggums:


I'm sorry, but that's shocking. IDK about every diuretic out in the market, but I know what the most common reason a person would take a diuretic is...and that's to lower blood pressure.


Diuretics, sometimes called water pills, help rid your body of salt (sodium) and water. Most of them help your kidneys release more sodium into your urine. The sodium takes with it water from your blood, decreasing the amount of fluid flowing through your veins and arteries. This reduces blood pressure.

Source: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-pressure/in-depth/diuretics/art-20048129



I literally take Diuretics (half a pill) every morning due to my blood pressure. I've come to the point after a year where I keep lowering the amount, to the point where I am currently only taking it 2 times per week, but the fact that he's facing a 25 game ban is appalling. Literally the ONLY thing it does is get's rid of sodium quicker and makes you pee more......that's it.


Again, idk if there are different diuretics out there and what they do, but I am aware that it is in no way something that would enhance an athletes game.

[sportjames23]

oops, wrong account

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Bosnian Sajo]

fyi, he tested positive for a drug that makes u piss...so maybe he took itinhope to get another drug out of his system....eitheir way :facepalm


...But that's not what a Diuretic does. It breaks down sodium quicker, which makes you piss more, not flush out your system...if that were the case then diuretics would also flush out important vitamins and minerals from your body and your doc would recommend to eat a higher DV of fruits/veggies when on the pill.


That's not the case. When I got my diuretic, the doc literally said "This will make you go to the restroom slightly more than usual, just be sure to stay hydrated".


Diuretics lower your blood pressure by flushing salt out of your body, taking this unwanted extra fluid with it.

[nayte]

I like Aytons game.i hope this was a mistake and he comes back strong .errr not steroid back strong.lol.

[FireDavidKahn]

Yea my mind is ****y lately so I was like how is a diuretic a ped but that's the answer if there is one. They might be able to worm out of part of it as a accident tho.

-Smak
All the banned diuretics require a prescription. It'd be pretty easy to trace it back to the doctor/physician and go from there. Otherwise he knowingly got some pill from his own trainers/physicians/whoever that had the banned diuretic.

Or the best case scenario, for Ayton, is if he took some OTC pill (for whatever reason not even having anyone check it which would be Ayton's fault) that somehow was tainted with a banned diuretic. In that case it would be incredibly easy to defend himself as all he would have to do is tell the world what product he was taken which would then put the spotlight on that product and whoever manufactures that product would be in a whole lot of trouble.

The bottom line is that athletes are responsible. They specifically have the infrastructure and a system set up where it is painfully easy to have a product tested and checked for banned substances. Plus if it was a mistake then TELL THE WORLD THE PRODUCT YOU WERE USING THAT SUPPOSEDLY HAD THE BANNED DIURETIC IN IT.

Plus the whole "nothing else showed up in the test" is exactly why diuretics are used and why they are banned.

[FireDavidKahn]

I'm sorry, but that's shocking. IDK about every diuretic out in the market, but I know what the most common reason a person would take a diuretic is...and that's to lower blood pressure.



Source: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-pressure/in-depth/diuretics/art-20048129



I literally take Diuretics (half a pill) every morning due to my blood pressure. I've come to the point after a year where I keep lowering the amount, to the point where I am currently only taking it 2 times per week, but the fact that he's facing a 25 game ban is appalling. Literally the ONLY thing it does is get's rid of sodium quicker and makes you pee more......that's it.


Again, idk if there are different diuretics out there and what they do, but I am aware that it is in no way something that would enhance an athletes game.
Uhhh...diuretics help mask steroids.

[madmax]

What's the outrage with 25 games? In other sports, any positive test gets you 2 years.

this...tennis players get a 2 year ban for a similar doping infraction. NBA testing is just for show anyway and it's there just to send a message rather than seriously crack down on juicing among athletes

[sammichoffate]

https://streamable.com/iony7

:roll:

[highwhey]

https://streamable.com/iony7

:roll:
it's true tho, he was tested in summer and wouldn't have been allowed to play opening night if he failed then. this was an after game 1 drug test...that's ****ing suspect. that corrupt ref that was dealing with the mafia even admitted the league office and other owners had it out for the Suns owner.

:facepalm

[highwhey]

Uhhh...diuretics help mask steroids.
coffee is a diuretic. and he could have been taking a fat burner for all we know. before you go on that it's unfair, fat burners don't work how you expect them. pissing out water weight gives you no advantage over anyone. it just dehydrates you.

[FireDavidKahn]

coffee is a diuretic. and he could have been taking a fat burner for all we know. before you go on that it's unfair, fat burners don't work how you expect them. pissing out water weight gives you no advantage over anyone. it just dehydrates you.
Yes...and the only diuretics that are banned require a prescription...

As someone who has taken DNP multiple times in the past...I know how fat burners work.

And like I said...if he was taking a product he bought then tell us what product it was so it can be tested and then the company that made it would be ****ed.

Instead he'll still deny it and never reveal what product he supposedly took that "accidentally" had a banned diuretic in it.

[highwhey]

Yes...and the only diuretics that are banned require a prescription...

As someone who has taken DNP multiple times in the past...I know how fat burners work.

And like I said...if he was taking a product he bought then tell us what product it was so it can be tested and then the company that made it would be ****ed.

Instead he'll still deny it and never reveal what product he supposedly took that "accidentally" had a banned diuretic in it.
he most likely smoked weed, who gives a fck? why are you so butthurt about it? do you live in pretend land where athletes don't take PEDs? where santa comes at night and you know the rest.

[qrich]

And Suns still force Denver to ot :wtf:

[LoneyROY7]

And Suns still force Denver to ot :wtf:

The Slick Ricky effect. :eek: :eek:

[FireDavidKahn]

he most likely smoked weed, who gives a fck? why are you so butthurt about it? do you live in pretend land where athletes don't take PEDs? where santa comes at night and you know the rest.
I'm not butthurtt, just telling people what actually is happening. He didn't smoke weed, he got caught with a diuretic.

[DoctorP]

booker couldnt finish.

tough luck, kid.

eat more oysters, son

[highwhey]

And Suns still force Denver to ot :wtf:
fcking refs ****ed us over.

jokic swung his ass out on purpose to launch carter onto murray, refs call foul on us and they get up 1 pt to win the game :facepalm

fvcking refs

[LoneyROY7]

D-Shook costing Big Slick Ricky a W.

:facepalm :facepalm

[coin24]

Booker what a scrub:lol :lol

[highwhey]

booker couldnt finish.

tough luck, kid.

eat more oysters, son
he hit a clutch 3, rubio followed it up with some clutch free throws, then we went to OT.

refs screwed us over by protecting jokic all night long. they missed a blatant foul by jokic and instead called it a foul on us, they won off those free throws :facepalm

[highwhey]

eithier way, hell of a game by my suns. without ayton we went OT against a playoff team. nice :rockon:

[sammichoffate]

eithier way, hell of a game by my suns. without ayton we went OT against a playoff team. nice :rockon:I thought the Suns could win 30ish games before this, Oubre was a p underrated pick up.

[highwhey]

I thought the Suns could win 30ish games before this, Oubre was a p underrated pick up.
we still can if the suspension gets reduced to 12 games.

our defense is an actual defense. heard the nuggets commentators praising Booker's defense...imagine that :lol

Baynes, Rubio both transforming this team...defensively too. btw, this is with Cam Johnson on injury reserve...he's 6'9 can hit 3's and defends really well. wouldn't surprise me if he wins the starting position over Oubre.

[sammichoffate]

we still can if the suspension gets reduced to 12 games.

our defense is an actual defense. heard the nuggets commentators praising Booker's defense...imagine that :lol

Baynes, Rubio both transforming this team...defensively too. btw, this is with Cam Johnson on injury reserve...he's 6'9 can hit 3's and defends really well. wouldn't surprise me if he wins the starting position over Oubre.Is Bridges any good? Wasn't he supposed to be Trevor Ariza coming into the draft?

[highwhey]

Is Bridges any good? Wasn't he supposed to be Trevor Ariza coming into the draft?
defensively he's great, lead rookies in steals. you can always count on him to put the clamps on anyone.

offensively..ehh, coming out of villenova he was shooting 43%...but he averaged 33% his rookie year. he does deserve the benefit of the doubt (we were absolutely horrible at shooting 3's last year, even Booker's 3pt % took a big dip.

he spent his entire summer in the gym tho, i think he can eventually become a good 3pt shooter with elite defense. but right now, Cam is older and a much better 3pt shooter.

[sammichoffate]

defensively he's great, lead rookies in steals. you can always count on him to put the clamps on anyone.

offensively..ehh, coming out of villenova he was shooting 43%...but he averaged 33% his rookie year. he does deserve the benefit of the doubt (we were absolutely horrible at shooting 3's last year, even Booker's 3pt % took a big dip.

he spent his entire summer in the gym tho, i think he can eventually become a good 3pt shooter with elite defense. but right now, Cam is older and a much better 3pt shooter.Makes sense, Suns actually have a good amount of forwards they can swap around including Saric.

[highwhey]

Makes sense, Suns actually have a good amount of forwards they can swap around including Saric.
speaking about saric...he's made like 1 3pt shot out of 5 attempts. :lol

he played some clutch defense on jokic after baynes was fouled out tho. gotta give him credit for that,

just hoping it's a fluke bc Ryand Anderson and Ariza both signed up to the Suns last season and they were atrociously horrible from 3pt. :(

[sammichoffate]

speaking about saric...he's made like 1 3pt shot out of 5 attempts. :lol

he played some clutch defense on jokic after baynes was fouled out tho. gotta give him credit for that,

just hoping it's a fluke bc Ryand Anderson and Ariza both signed up to the Suns last season and they were atrociously horrible from 3pt. :(Yeah, idk about him. This could be a make or break year for him or he might end up in Euroleague lol.

[ROCSteady]

Having watched a lot of Kelly Oubre, he fits very well with the playing style of the Suns main horses