Why's LeBron playing and being aggressive in Garbage Time?

[eliteballer]

Lakers up by 20+ over the lowly Grizz late in the 4th and LeBron keeps attacking the rim like it's Game 7 of the Finals.

Oh that's right, he has to get his numbers..

[kentatm]

he has to get his numbers..

Mamba mentality :kobe:

[Keno]

game doesn't end until the clock hits 0. :banana:

[Indian guy]

Ummm, did you see the lineup LA had to start the 4th? It was LeBron + 4 scrubs.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

shades of finals performances like 2014/17/18 when he was going hard in garbage time

2014 he got shut down and then when it was out of reach he feasted and added like 10/4/2 to his statline when they were blown out

in the 17 finals late in the game 5 he kept driving the ball and getting baskets in the final couple minutes when they were down double digits and about to head home:oldlol:

he wants ppl in the future to look back at the boxscore and be like "damn Davis went off but Lebron had a great game" when anyone watching knows he didnt and LA won the game with him on the bench:oldlol:

[eliteballer]

shades of finals performances like 2014/17/18 when he was going hard in garbage time

2014 he got shut down and then when it was out of reach he feasted and added like 10/4/2 to his statline when they were blown out

in the 17 finals late in the game 5 he kept driving the ball and getting baskets in the final couple minutes when they were down double digits and about to head home:oldlol:

he wants ppl in the future to look back at the boxscore and be like "damn Davis went off but Lebron had a great game" when anyone watching knows he didnt and LA won the game with him on the bench:oldlol:

:applause:

[PP34Deuce]

Game is over..who cares if hes stat padding.

[Mr Feeny]

Game is over..who cares if hes stat padding.

You just answered the OP. The guy is insecure about Davis coming in and becoming the man overnight and has to stat pad a little:lol

[bobopenguin]

man needs his 20/5/5

[ClipperRevival]

shades of finals performances like 2014/17/18 when he was going hard in garbage time

2014 he got shut down and then when it was out of reach he feasted and added like 10/4/2 to his statline when they were blown out

in the 17 finals late in the game 5 he kept driving the ball and getting baskets in the final couple minutes when they were down double digits and about to head home:oldlol:

he wants ppl in the future to look back at the boxscore and be like "damn Davis went off but Lebron had a great game" when anyone watching knows he didnt and LA won the game with him on the bench:oldlol:

Durthickemz laying down the facts on Le2nd Optijames.

[PP34Deuce]

You just answered the OP. The guy is insecure about Davis coming in and becoming the man overnight and has to stat pad a little:lol

I'd say he stat padded to maintain his average. Not to show he was the best player. It's still petty but his stat pad meaning is different

[72-10]

other ATG don't stay in to pad their stats

[PP34Deuce]

other ATG don't stay in to pad their stats
Players wouldnt care about stats if it werent for fans and haters using it against them.

[aj1987]

shades of finals performances like 2014/17/18 when he was going hard in garbage time

2014 he got shut down and then when it was out of reach he feasted and added like 10/4/2 to his statline when they were blown out

in the 17 finals late in the game 5 he kept driving the ball and getting baskets in the final couple minutes when they were down double digits and about to head home:oldlol:

he wants ppl in the future to look back at the boxscore and be like "damn Davis went off but Lebron had a great game" when anyone watching knows he didnt and LA won the game with him on the bench:oldlol:
:oldlol: @ this lying sack of shit.

LeBron averaged ~3.5 PPG in the 4th quarters of the '14 Finals. The vast majority of his points came during the first 3 quarters and when the game was still withing reach.

As for the '17 Finals, the game was a 11 point game with 3 minutes left in the 4th. A Finals elimination game. Literally no team in the history of the universe would give up, put in a similar situation. Overcoming 11 points in 3 minutes is not impossible. You would know that, if you actually ever watched a minute of basketball.

On a side not, how does it feel to know that all the three players you stan (the players' initials you have in your username) are going to retire with fewer MVP's and FMVP's than LeBron...COMBINED?


other ATG don't stay in to pad their stats
Every single ATG did. Heck, the dude you consider the GOAT padded his stats massively as well. Dude was actively padding his stats.

“The guys at the scorer’s desk let me know what I need,” Jordan said, according to the LA Times.

The Bulls’ assistant coaches also helped wherever they could.

“They keep reminding me when I get back to the huddle,” Jordan said. “They say, ‘You need three more of this. You need four more of that.’”

[AussieSteve]

shades of finals performances like 2014/17/18 when he was going hard in garbage time


2014 he got shut down and then when it was out of reach he feasted and added like 10/4/2 to his statline when they were blown out

in the 17 finals late in the game 5 he kept driving the ball and getting baskets in the final couple minutes when they were down double digits and about to head home:oldlol:

he wants ppl in the future to look back at the boxscore and be like "damn Davis went off but Lebron had a great game" when anyone watching knows he didnt and LA won the game with him on the bench:oldlol:

If we're listing things that never actually happened, how bout that time Kobe scored more than 40 points in that finals game.

[sportjames23]

If we're listing things that never actually happened, how bout that time Kobe scored more than 40 points in that finals game.


Or lost 6 of 9 Finals.

[aj1987]

Or lost 6 of 9 Finals.
Or doing better than 1-9 without Pippen.

[sportjames23]

Or doing better than 1-9 without Pippen.

Or beating out scrubs for Finals MVP.

[aj1987]

Or beating out scrubs for Finals MVP.
Or actually making it out of the first round without Pippen, instead of getting his shit pushed in year after year.

[STATUTORY]

you know damn well those stats weren't gonna pad themselves!

[warriorfan]

shades of finals performances like 2014/17/18 when he was going hard in garbage time

2014 he got shut down and then when it was out of reach he feasted and added like 10/4/2 to his statline when they were blown out

in the 17 finals late in the game 5 he kept driving the ball and getting baskets in the final couple minutes when they were down double digits and about to head home:oldlol:

he wants ppl in the future to look back at the boxscore and be like "damn Davis went off but Lebron had a great game" when anyone watching knows he didnt and LA won the game with him on the bench:oldlol:

This

[aj1987]

This
Not surprised that a subhuman with rodent level intelligence like yourself would agree with that idiot. :cheers:

[stalkerforlife]

Padding stats just like when his sorry ass pushed everyone out of the way to shoot a technical FT when there were multiple better FT shooters on the court.

And he missed.

F ucking loser.

[DoctorP]

as long as he doesnt get injured he should get as many stats as possible. he needs to catch Kareem

[DoctorP]

the hating ass niggggers are funny

[guy]

[QUOTE=aj1987]:oldlol: @ this lying sack of shit.

LeBron averaged ~3.5 PPG in the 4th quarters of the '14 Finals. The vast majority of his points came during the first 3 quarters and when the game was still withing reach.

As for the '17 Finals, the game was a 11 point game with 3 minutes left in the 4th. A Finals elimination game. Literally no team in the history of the universe would give up, put in a similar situation. Overcoming 11 points in 3 minutes is not impossible. You would know that, if you actually ever watched a minute of basketball.

On a side not, how does it feel to know that all the three players you stan (the players' initials you have in your username) are going to retire with fewer MVP's and FMVP's than LeBron...COMBINED?


Every single ATG did. Heck, the dude you consider the GOAT padded his stats massively as well. Dude was actively padding his stats.

[I]

[aj1987]

Yea every ATG has stat padded at one point or another. Its usually when they're younger.

They don't make an entire career out of it though. :oldlol: Lebron is 34 years old in his 17th season and still doing shit like this? :oldlol: How insecure is he?
I mean, Ordan's career was built on stat padding. Kobe's as well. Their career stats would be beyond pedestrian, if they didn't solely play to accumulate stats. :cheers:

[ImKobe]

[QUOTE=aj1987]:oldlol: @ this lying sack of shit.

LeBron averaged ~3.5 PPG in the 4th quarters of the '14 Finals. The vast majority of his points came during the first 3 quarters and when the game was still withing reach.

As for the '17 Finals, the game was a 11 point game with 3 minutes left in the 4th. A Finals elimination game. Literally no team in the history of the universe would give up, put in a similar situation. Overcoming 11 points in 3 minutes is not impossible. You would know that, if you actually ever watched a minute of basketball.

On a side not, how does it feel to know that all the three players you stan (the players' initials you have in your username) are going to retire with fewer MVP's and FMVP's than LeBron...COMBINED?


Every single ATG did. Heck, the dude you consider the GOAT padded his stats massively as well. Dude was actively padding his stats.

[I]

[Lebron23]

Wants to be the all time leading scorer in NBA history. He surpassed Jordan in the scoring lists last season. He is on the verge of surpassing Kobe this season.

[aj1987]

...
Again, shit for brains, LeBron scored ~3.5 PPG in the 4th Q's. He also did it on worse efficiency than in the first 3. He did the vast majority of his scoring when the game was within 15 in the first 3 quarters. Also, why is it arbitrarily 6-10 points? Why not tied to a 10 point lead? Or a 15 point lead. Ignoring that for a second, LeBron scored 21% of his points when the Spurs were leading by 6-10 points.

Here's one of my posts from a while ago:

LeBron only played like 6 minutes a game in the 4th Q's and scored only ~3.5 points. Did his scoring in the first 3 Q's when the games were still within ~15 points. However, according to LOZERUS, if a player tries to score when a team in trailing by 15 with a quarter and a half of basketball, it's stat padding, because apparently the game is already a blowout.

For instance, in his insane and absolutely retarded rambling, he fails to acknowledge the FACT that LeBron brought the Heat back to within 13 with like 8 minutes to go in the 3rd. That's when others started missing and the Spurs went on a 7-0 run.

Game 1 - LeBron single handedly kept the Heat in the game and the minute he goes out, Miami gets blown out. 2 point game with LeBron on the court. The moment he sits, the Spurs go on a 16-3 run in a span of about four minutes. As I said, without LeBron the Heat got torched by the Spurs.

Game 2 - LeBron plays an incredible game and CB comes through in the Clutch with the late 3. Miami barely win though. Even though Bosh came through in the clutch, dude was terrible (as was Wade) and let Duncan destroy him.

Game 3 - LeBron was terrible in the 4th without question. No excuses. Unlike you, I can admit when a player is terrible, you braindead retard.

Game 5 - So, according to you, LeBron was stat padding when he was trying to score midway through the 3rd with the Heat down 15, but he should

[DoctorP]

Again, shit for brains, LeBron scored ~3.5 PPG in the 4th Q's. He also did it on worse efficiency than in the first 3. He did the vast majority of his scoring when the game was within 15 in the first 3 quarters. Also, why is it arbitrarily 6-10 points? Why not tied to a 10 point lead? Or a 15 point lead. Ignoring that for a second, LeBron scored 21% of his points when the Spurs were leading by 6-10 points.

Here's one of my posts from a while ago:

LeBron only played like 6 minutes a game in the 4th Q's and scored only ~3.5 points. Did his scoring in the first 3 Q's when the games were still within ~15 points. However, according to LOZERUS, if a player tries to score when a team in trailing by 15 with a quarter and a half of basketball, it's stat padding, because apparently the game is already a blowout.

For instance, in his insane and absolutely retarded rambling, he fails to acknowledge the FACT that LeBron brought the Heat back to within 13 with like 8 minutes to go in the 3rd. That's when others started missing and the Spurs went on a 7-0 run.

Game 1 - LeBron single handedly kept the Heat in the game and the minute he goes out, Miami gets blown out. 2 point game with LeBron on the court. The moment he sits, the Spurs go on a 16-3 run in a span of about four minutes. As I said, without LeBron the Heat got torched by the Spurs.

Game 2 - LeBron plays an incredible game and CB comes through in the Clutch with the late 3. Miami barely win though. Even though Bosh came through in the clutch, dude was terrible (as was Wade) and let Duncan destroy him.

Game 3 - LeBron was terrible in the 4th without question. No excuses. Unlike you, I can admit when a player is terrible, you braindead retard.

Game 5 - So, according to you, LeBron was stat padding when he was trying to score midway through the 3rd with the Heat down 15, but he should’ve scored more with the Heat down 19 going into the 4th? You really do not understand what the term stat padding means, do you? Anyways, TP completely wrecked the Heat in the 4th Q that game. The Heat were never able to get closer than 16 and couldn’t get a stop defensively.

LeBron puts up 28 PPG on 68% TS and the Heat get blown out.

From the OP:

I'm not a LeBron stan. I just want to call out BS when I see it.

Presented here are some myths perpetuated by tards who try and turn LeBron's 2014 Finals performance into something that it wasn't. Debunked

1. LeBron was outplayed by Kawhi.

LeBron averaged 28.2ppg on 68%ts. Kawhi averaged 17.8ppg on 75%ts. Not even close. And don't say 'defense', both were 2nd team All-D that season. Statistically, LeBron was the best player in the series by a large margin, averaging 10.2ppg more than anyone else from either team.


2. LeBron stat padded with games out of reach to get numbers that look better than his performances warranted.

There was not a single game when Lebron stat padded in the 4th.

Game 1.
- James leaves the game with cramps with 7:31 to go. Heat up by 2.
- He comes back in with 4:33 to go. Heat down by 4.
- Scores a bucket with 4:09 left, then leaves the game for good. Heat down by 2
- Heat end up losing by 15.
- no statpadding

Game 2
LeBron scores 35 and Heat win by 2. No stat padding to be had here.

Game 3
- LeBron's last points were with 6:31 remaining, after which the score was 97-84.
- no stat padding.

Game 4
- LeBron had 28 points after 3 quarters, 19 in the third, and the Heat were still down by 24.
- he only played 4:54 in the 4th, had one rebound and no points.
- no stat padding

Game 5
- LeBron had 27 points after 3 quarters and the Heat were still down by 19.
- LeBron scored his last points with 7:32 remaining and sat out the last 6:30.
- no stat padding.

In the four games the Heat lost, LeBron average 24.0 points in the first 3 quarters, only to be facing a blow out 3 out of 4 games. He then averaged just 2.5 in fourth quarters, BECAUSE HE DID NOT ONCE STAT PAD.


3. LeBron's team was stacked and he still couldn't get it done against past their prime has-beens and a baby Kawhi.

The 2014 finals were almost as big a carry job as the 2015 finals for LeBron. Wade and Bosh, the two guys that supposedly made the team stacked, COMBINED for 29.2 points and 9.0 rebounds a game. Ray Allen was 38. Rashard Lewis was 34. The team was literally LeBron and corpses of former great players.

Interestingly, Wade averaged 4.7 points in the 4th quarters of the three blow out losses, and 2 points in the 4th of the two games they actually had a chance in down the stretch. If anyone stat-padded it was Wade, meaning that Wade's 15.2ppg for the series is flattering number.

Forget the 3/9 narratives. LeBron was objectively great in the 2014 finals, but outside of him the Heat were completely out-matched at all positions and off the bench.

Conclusion
LeBron played great. As well as one could have asked of him. Given that he averaged 24.6ppg in Q1-Q3 across the series, the truth is that his overall numbers do not reflect how great he played, because he scored so little in 4th quarters, because his team was constantly blown out.

At the very least, in terms of level of individual play, LeBron's 2014 finals performance was:
- on par with Kobe's best Finals. Likely better than any of Kobe's Finals.
- on par with any of Jordan's 2nd 3peat Finals.

didnt read
didnt care.

try harder next time

maybe something relevant to reality

the year is 2020.

Kobe is dead

[Mr Feeny]

didnt read
didnt care.

try harder next time

maybe something relevant to reality

the year is 2020.

Kobe is dead

:lol

Look at his long disquisition. He's pathetic:oldlol:

[aj1987]

didnt read
didnt care.

try harder next time

maybe something relevant to reality

the year is 2020.

Kobe is dead
You went from being a decent poster to AirRetard/ImKobe/Pickernretard level. Take care, dude. Don't OD.

[DoctorP]

You went from being a decent poster to AirRetard/ImKobe/Pickernretard level. Take care, dude. Don't OD.

I dont read you.
you delve in garbage

[DoctorP]

:lol

Look at his long disquisition. He's pathetic:oldlol:

i know. what a waste of time

if only he studied something of worth.

[AirBonner]

You went from being a decent poster to AirRetard/ImKobe/Pickernretard level. Take care, dude. Don't OD.
you win by default. They literally disqualified themselves from the discussion. That's what happens when you talk basketball AND know what you are talking about. Well done :cheers:

[DoctorP]

you win by default. They literally disqualified themselves from the discussion. That's what happens when you talk basketball AND know what you are talking about. Well done :cheers:

delusional. like if sports had some meaning other than IM THE BEST YOURE THE WORST.

[AirBonner]

delusional. like if sports had some meaning other than IM THE BEST YOURE THE WORST.
these are facts not opinions bub

[aj1987]

:lol

Look at his long disquisition. He's pathetic:oldlol:
This little uneducated maggot is still absolutely livid that he gets thoroughly embarrassed in every single basketball related discussion. Eat shit, you waste of space. :cheers:


these are facts not opinions bub
LeBron haters like the dipshits above are deathly allergic to facts.

[DoctorP]

both of you are retarded in the eyes of your god. namely ME

[Mr Feeny]

This little uneducated maggot is still absolutely livid that he gets thoroughly embarrassed in every single basketball related discussion. Eat shit, you waste of space. :cheers:


LeBron haters like the dipshits above are deathly allergic to facts.

Awwww. Another meltdown by the resident hindu:lol

[aj1987]

Awwww. Another meltdown by the resident hindu:lol
How does it feel to get slaughtered in every single basketball discussion, Mr Autist?

[DoctorP]

(observing the idiocy of human sports interaction)

[PickernRoller]

shades of finals performances like 2014/17/18 when he was going hard in garbage time

2014 he got shut down and then when it was out of reach he feasted and added like 10/4/2 to his statline when they were blown out

in the 17 finals late in the game 5 he kept driving the ball and getting baskets in the final couple minutes when they were down double digits and about to head home:oldlol:

he wants ppl in the future to look back at the boxscore and be like "damn Davis went off but Lebron had a great game" when anyone watching knows he didnt and LA won the game with him on the bench:oldlol:

Fraud frauding... nothing new to those who watch (and actually understand what's going on - sad this disclaimer has to be made) :lol

[FKAri]

(observing the idiocy of human sports interaction)
Yes! YES! Now you're getting it!

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[DoctorP]

Yes! YES! Now you're getting it!

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[tpols]

bran gonna bran.

the dude has always been a fraud at the game of basketball.

[guy]

I mean, Ordan's career was built on stat padding. Kobe's as well. Their career stats would be beyond pedestrian, if they didn't solely play to accumulate stats. :cheers:

How so? If Jordan statpadded his entire career he wouldn't have retired multiple times and would likely be the all-time scoring leader by a comfortable margin.

[aj1987]

How so? If Jordan statpadded his entire career he wouldn't have retired multiple times and would likely be the all-time scoring leader by a comfortable margin.
You think statpadding only works when it comes to career totals and not averages? :facepalm

[sportjames23]

You think statpadding only works when it comes to career totals and not averages? :facepalm

Bruh, c'mon. You know damn well if MJ cared for stats, he would've gone for 70 and 80 point games when he could in games when the Bulls were blowing out a team in the 3rd and MJ had like 35 points by halftime. Hell, Game 2 of the 1992 Finals is a prime example. The Bulls were stomping the shit outta the Blazers, MJ had 35 by the half, scored 4 points in the 3rd, and sat out most of the 3rd and all of the 4th.

[aj1987]

Bruh, c'mon. You know damn well if MJ cared for stats, he would've gone for 70 and 80 point games when he could in games when the Bulls were blowing out a team in the 3rd and MJ had like 35 points by halftime. Hell, Game 2 of the 1992 Finals is a prime example. The Bulls were stomping the shit outta the Blazers, MJ had 35 by the half, scored 4 points in the 3rd, and sat out most of the 3rd and all of the 4th.
Tell that to people who LeBron only plays to statpad.

[allball]

the real question is why does it bother you so much?