Lakers 4 - 1 despite mediocre offense

[ImKobe]

We've had a terrible start offensively with us being ranked 11th in ORTG and only 22nd in 3PT% despite being 24th in attempts.

Now the great news is that we've shown the ability to play lockdown defense while going through cold stretches in the game. Anthony Davis should be a DPOY candidate right now with his 92 DRTG and 1.2 stls/2.8 blocks per game.

Although we've struggled to score, we're still 8th in assists and 7th in least turnovers.

Lakers currently are dominating with the line-up of

James
Bradley
Green
AD
Howard

That line-up has only played 14 minutes in 4 games according to NBA.com/Stats but have a 137.9 ORTG to a 63.3 DRTG. I think the site hasn't updated with the Mavs game yet because that was our line-up to close the 4th.

All 5 are playing elite defense while Bradley is the only one who's struggled on offense(31% on 3s with over 5 a game, career 36% 3PT shooter), other 4 all have a 117-125 ORTG, this should be our starting/closing 5 come Playoff time.

It's scary. Lakers look like they could have a top 5 offense and a top 5 defense once Kuzma gets in game shape. We got depth on paper but the bench has struggled so far, we played 11 guys against Dallas but only got 22 points from the bench. Kuzma and Rondo can't get back in shape fast enough, we need to get KCP off the damn court.

It's safe to say this team will have HCA in the first round barring significant injury.

[FireDavidKahn]

11th best offense
3rd best defense

[Real Men Wear Green]

They should be 3-2. Howard got away with holding Seth Curry to let Green get open and tie the game.

[AirTupac]

They should be 3-2. Howard got away with holding Seth Curry to let Green get open and tie the game.

As Kobe said it, refs barely call shit in the closeout of a game. And this happens all the time. WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH - Celtics fan

[Real Men Wear Green]

As Kobe said it, refs barely call shit in the closeout of a game. And this happens all the time. WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH - Celtics fan So Bryant saw the foul as well? Don't see how he couldn't have really, it's obvious in the replays.

[AirTupac]

So Bryant saw the foul as well? Don't see how he couldn't have really, it's obvious in the replays.


Thats why the NBA introduced challenges. But you can't tell me players don't do that ALL the time and it doesnt get called because it does.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Thats why the NBA introduced challenges. But you can't tell me players don't do that ALL the time and it doesnt get called because it does.I can tell you that LA should be 3-2 because Howard got away with holding the defender on the game tying shot. You don't have a point.

[AirTupac]

I can tell you that LA should be 3-2 because Howard got away with holding the defender on the game tying shot. You don't have a point.


I can tell you Lakers should be undefeated if Kobe flew through Staples center and torpedo'd through Kawhis body until he exploded. Lakers 5-0.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I can tell you Lakers should be undefeated if Kobe flew through Staples center and torpedo'd through Kawhis body until he exploded. Lakers 5-0.Moving on.

[AirTupac]

Lmao of course you are. You think you make such astute points. But you're actually a pretty dumb guy. :oldlol:

[ImKobe]

Bad calls go both ways, imagine thinking that was the only missed call the entire game.

[AirTupac]

Bad calls go both ways, imagine thinking that was the only missed call the entire game.

In his head, he made such a great point that Lakers should be 3-2 though. He's above us all!! :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Bad calls go both ways, imagine thinking that was the only missed call the entire game.It was without a doubt the most crucial. Do you think a lay-up 5 minutes into the second quarter is just as important as a game-winner?

[ImKobe]

It was without a doubt the most crucial. Do you think a lay-up 5 minutes into the second quarter is just add important as a game-winner?

It all adds up. You can have a bad call in the 2nd quarter that kills a team's momentum. You can miss a foul call on a star player in the 2nd that would put them on the bench for the rest of the half. You can't just choose to look at one missed call and say it decided the outcome of the game.

It's like the Saints-Rams in last year's Playoffs. Yes, they missed a PI that would have probably ended the game but the Saints still had the ball to win it in 4th and in OT and didn't get the job done and there were calls the refs missed on the Saints. It happens in every sport and you can't just go back to that ONE call when there are so many others plays that you could nit-pick as well.

Mavs would have won it in regulation if Powell makes both FTs.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It all adds up. You can have a bad call in the 2nd quarter that kills a team's momentum. You can miss a foul call on a star player in the 2nd that would put them on the bench for the rest of the half. You can't just choose to look at one missed call and say it decided the outcome of the game.

It's like the Saints-Rams in last year's Playoffs. Yes, they missed a PI that would have probably ended the game but the Saints still had the ball to win it in 4th and in OT and didn't get the job done and there were calls the refs missed on the Saints. It happens in every sport and you can't just go back to that ONE call when there are so many others plays that you could nit-pick as well.

Mavs would have won it in regulation if Powell makes both FTs.Except that it did. In a close game the importance of what happens at the end is magnified. A major no-call shouldn't be ignored if you are going to make a big deal over thr Lakers record over such a small sample size. One game becomes important and missing that call lead to the Lakers winning a game they should not have.

[brownmamba00]

LeBron ball and AD post ups take up 80% of the team's playbook. Green isn't really a volume shooter he's a streaky spot up player that can't dribble.

Bradley's been decent so far but Lakers could use another ball handler that can shoot treys. Hopefully Kuzma comes in hot so Vogel can limit KCP Green Bradley minutes.

All good players in their own right but they should never be on the court at the same time.

The mediocre offense is the result of the personnel they have on this team. Vogel and his staff have done a good job utilizing the team's size on defense after that opening night blunder. But the offense is very predictable right now.

I think Rondo coming back will help the second team produce which has been a weakness so far. Also Rondo could spell LeBron some minutes in the 3rd quarters of games like he did last year which should be a plus later on this season.

[ImKobe]

Except that it did. In a close game the importance of what happens at the end is magnified. A major no-call shouldn't be ignored if you are going to make a big deal over thr Lakers record over such a small sample size. One game becomes important and missing that call lead to the Lakers winning a game they should not have.

Mavs lost the moment they collapsed on Lebron. They deserved to lose by missing FTs and playing terrible defense down the stretch.

[bison]

When playoff mode gets activated...

It is OVER

[And1AllDay]

Mavs lost the moment they collapsed on Lebron. They deserved to lose by missing FTs and playing terrible defense down the stretch.

i saw that too and was wondering what they were thinking

[bison]

Mavs lost the moment they collapsed on Lebron. They deserved to lose by missing FTs and playing terrible defense down the stretch.

:applause:

[KOBEtherealKing]

The foul on curry happened so fast NOBODY seen it. Not even the coach or assistants (don

[Real Men Wear Green]

Mavs lost the moment they collapsed on Lebron. They deserved to lose by missing FTs and playing terrible defense down the stretch.
While I agree that Dallas should have held on to their lead that doesn't make the Lakers record so far more impressive.

[AirTupac]

13 new players
Entire new coaching staff
New defensive schemes

and Lakers are 4-1. I'd say its really impressive, especially beating a good Dallas team at their home. :oldlol: What a joke.

[tpols]

i mean look at who theyve beat... grizzlies, hornets, and jazz with a major major luck to beat a young dallas.

couldnt even beat the clippers without paul george...

:wtf:


Whats gonna happen in the playoffs?

[Rico2016]

i mean look at who theyve beat... grizzlies, hornets, and jazz with a major major luck to beat a young dallas.

couldnt even beat the clippers without paul george...

:wtf:


Whats gonna happen in the playoffs?

Oh look another Lakers "fan"

[AirTupac]

i mean look at who theyve beat... grizzlies, hornets, and jazz with a major major luck to beat a young dallas.

couldnt even beat the clippers without paul george...

:wtf:


Whats gonna happen in the playoffs?


So the only way a team with 13 new guys and coaching staff will get credit is to beat a Clippers team that's established and beat all the teams they HAVE beaten already by 40+ with ease. LOL retard

[tpols]

LeBron ball and AD post ups take up 80% of the team's playbook. Green isn't really a volume shooter he's a streaky spot up player that can't dribble.

Bradley's been decent so far but Lakers could use another ball handler that can shoot treys. Hopefully Kuzma comes in hot so Vogel can limit KCP Green Bradley minutes.

All good players in their own right but they should never be on the court at the same time.

The mediocre offense is the result of the personnel they have on this team.


Thats a bad thing because its exactly what we expected... pure your turn my turn ball with no synergy.

Where you watch doncic and porzingis and dallas and theyre moving off ball and actually playing off one another.

Lebron and Anthony Davis shiiiit on them physically and individually talent wise yet they were basically outdueled last night getting blown out the majority of the game and took a miracle to eek it out.

The lakers should be on a clippers level dominance but they wont be.

[AirTupac]

You haven't played sports apparently. :facepalm :facepalm

[DoctorP]

lots of ref support. typical lakers.

[tpols]

So the only way a team with 13 new guys and coaching staff will get credit is to beat a Clippers team that's established and beat all the teams they HAVE beaten already by 40+ with ease. LOL retard


tobias harris and Gallo were the leading ppg scorers on the clippers last year in a 120+ played games combined.

Their whole team has shifted too and again they didnt have paul george playing.

:coleman:

[AirTupac]

tobias harris and Gallo were the leading ppg scorers on the clippers last year in a 120+ played games combined.

Their whole team has shifted too and again they didnt have paul george playing.

:coleman:

Its literally the SAME system they're playing. The same guys are running the offensive and defensive scheme. You're only taking out 2 guys for much superior players and playmakers. Do I have to break this down further to you to illustrate how it doesn't compare at all to a team with 13 new guys and an entirely new coaching staff? Like what??? REALLY? YOU DONT GET THIS?

Clippers also got smoked by Suns and Jazz. You're bottom line is: Lakers can do no right, Clippers can do no wrong. #1 seed in the West with an entire new team and winning @ Dallas away lmao. Eat a dick haters!!!

[bigkingsfan]

Where you watch doncic and porzingis and dallas and theyre moving off ball and actually playing off one another.

it was clearly the doncic iso show last night.

[tpols]

Its literally the SAME system they're playing. The same guys are running the offensive and defensive scheme. You're only taking out 2 guys for much superior players and playmakers. Do I have to break this down further to you to illustrate how it doesn't compare at all to a team with 13 new guys and an entirely new coaching staff? Like what??? REALLY? YOU DONT GET THIS?

Clippers also got smoked by Suns and Jazz. You're bottom line is: Lakers can do no right, Clippers can do no wrong. #1 seed in the West with an entire new team and winning @ Dallas away lmao. Eat a dick haters!!!


:roll:


why would you think the laker's system is ever going to evolve?

They will always be playing an inferior more iso centric brand of ball. Thats bran ball. Davis is only a pure scorer on offense.

thats why they have no chance against a healthy clippers team that has similar talent, BUT is much better synchronized an ran as a unit.

[AirTupac]

:roll:


why would you think the laker's system is ever going to evolve?

They will always be playing an inferior more iso centric brand of ball. Thats bran ball. Davis is only a pure scorer on offense.

thats why they have no chance against a healthy clippers team that has similar talent, BUT is much better synchronized an ran as a unit.


Because we have 2 key pieces comin back that is going to change the system. The system still has kinks to work out. Bron was doing nothing but passing it to AD in the post vs Clippers. He's taken a more hands on approach last 2 games. Kuz and Rondo coming back means more options off the bench. Less Bron Ball, more Kuz cutting and being involved. But sure, this team is what it is 4 games into the season with a new staff and team. GENIUS analysis.

[tpols]

Because we have 2 key pieces comin back that is going to change the system. The system still has kinks to work out. Bron was doing nothing but passing it to AD in the post vs Clippers. He's taken a more hands on approach last 2 games. Kuz and Rondo coming back means more options off the bench. Less Bron Ball, more Kuz cutting and being involved. But sure, this team is what it is 4 games into the season with a new staff and team. GENIUS analysis.


wait you think rondo coming back is gonna help?

:lol

can you imagine rondo, bran, and dwight on the floor at the same time?

[AirTupac]

wait you think rondo coming back is gonna help?

:lol

can you imagine rondo, bran, and dwight on the floor at the same time?


Rondo with Quinn Cook as a spot up shooter, Kuz, Dwight and whoever will be an upgrade for sure than LeBron wasting 12 seconds of the shotclock all game long. Yes.

[brownmamba00]

Thats a bad thing because its exactly what we expected... pure your turn my turn ball with no synergy.

Where you watch doncic and porzingis and dallas and theyre moving off ball and actually playing off one another.

Lebron and Anthony Davis shiiiit on them physically and individually talent wise yet they were basically outdueled last night getting blown out the majority of the game and took a miracle to eek it out.

The lakers should be on a clippers level dominance but they wont be.
Tbf you can't expect a brand new constructed team to start off scoring 140 a game...Lakers could use another guard scorer off the bench. But with Kuzma due to playing 30min that might be redundant.

Clipps barely beat us on opening night and they have had the same team for years now. We're not worried about the clippers.

[tpols]

Tbf you can't expect a brand new constructed team to start off scoring 140 a game...Lakers could use another guard scorer off the bench. But with Kuzma due to playing 30min that might be redundant.

Clipps barely beat us on opening night and they have had the same team for years now. We're not worried about the clippers.


:biggums:

Man you making OP look like Albert einstein.

[AirTupac]

:biggums:

Man you making OP look like Albert einstein.


I mean you're easily the dumbest poster in this conversation right now so you must not think highly of yourself. You fail to grasp even the most basic concepts and its clear you aren't smart or an athlete... so what are you?

[tpols]

I mean you're easily the dumbest poster in this conversation right now so you must not think highly of yourself. You fail to grasp even the most basic concepts and its clear you aren't smart or an athlete... so what are you?


grasp the subject matter mate.

the clipper team is the same as as it's been for years... adding an MVP and all NBA player substituting an all all star and journeyman..

Trading kawhi & george for tobias n gallo is like trading kobe and shaq for michael redd and elton campbell.

Get real...

[AirTupac]

grasp the subject matter mate.

the clipper team is the same as as it's been for years... adding an MVP and all NBA player substituting an all all star and journeyman..

Trading kawhi & george for tobias n gallo is like trading kobe and shaq for michael redd and elton campbell.

Get real...


Jesus christ its like talking to a dumbass brick wall :facepalm

[bladefd]

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[AirTupac]

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Worst bigmen rotation in the league :applause: :applause: :applause:

[tpols]

Jesus christ its like talking to a dumbass brick wall :facepalm


what you been staring in the mirror mate?

:biggums:

[SpaceJammeR]

stop playing kcp. he's horrible.

[And1AllDay]

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lakers r THICK this year

we back

[Duncan21formvp]

They should be 3-2. Howard got away with holding Seth Curry to let Green get open and tie the game.
Agreed!

[insidehoops]

Through yesterday's games, Lakers have 11th best offense and 3rd best defense in league

[brownmamba00]

grasp the subject matter mate.

the clipper team is the same as as it's been for years... adding an MVP and all NBA player substituting an all all star and journeyman..

Trading kawhi & george for tobias n gallo is like trading kobe and shaq for michael redd and elton campbell.

Get real...
Doc s been coaching that team for years dude Lou montrez Beverley that's the team's core right there.

Were you born yesterday? Did you not see the Clipps play against the dubs last postseason?