Where do you rank LeBron all-time?

[72-10]

if we are ranking?

[SouBeachTalents]

**** the frail shit
'Cause when my coke come in
They gotta use the scale that they weigh the whales with
Carlssons on the jeep, Bugatti made the prototype
Hoped you'd get the picture but you just can't photo life
Determined ****** make it
Kicking down the door and we burning ****** naked
The house costs a million, sitting on the beach
And the only thing I know, if it's furnished I'mma take it
My bathtub lift up, my walls do a 360
We got the shit that the government got
Talking money then you rubbing the spot
Real ****** say that they be wilding
We on the Cayman Islands
On a yacht with our favorite albums
A bad ho and a plate of salmon
Smoking and drinking, ***** is you thinking that our fate is violent?
I love my ***** for the fact that he real
And nobody on the faculty squeal
And if you facing capital pun', pass me a gun
And I'mma give you time to run while I rapidly peel
We gon' make it
We gon' make it, we gon' make it
We gon' make it
We gon' make it, we gon' make it
We gon' make it
I learned the game quickly, and I don't like to rent
So when I fly now, I bring my cars on the plane with me
In this case who's the loser?
Ran through enough coke for Castro to build schools in Cuba
Teaching kids how to read and write and use the Ruger
Mother****in' ****** is back, Jada and P
We got water, X, haze
Plus weight of the D
And I'm tired of hearing about old ****** that had it
And be the same old ****** that ratted (Who cares)
Talk 'bout how we hawk ****** in they ****in' back
Gun work's official but ****** don't be wanting that
(Why?) 'Cause they puss and they mans is lame
We Soul for Real in the hood, we make Candy Rain
I could easily send you to God
But come and see me at the Plaza Hotel I might give you a job
If you can't remember the name
All you gotta do is ask the dame for the ****** that deliver the hard
We gon' make it
We gon' make it, we gon' make it
We gon' make it
We gon' make it, we gon' make it
Ja- da- muah, I'll kiss you, you bitch ass *****
Bet the hood won't miss you, you bitch ass *****
Might find your man dead in the ocean
He be aight though
You know dead rappers get better promotion
Why we don't laugh at death, and cry at birth
Never say you can't do it 'til you try it first
Be the young ****** eager to pull it
But it's a message in everything, trust me, even a bullet
Go to war with the 8 and the pound
Think you got your ear to the street now, put your face in the ground
'Cause my shells is expensive
You'll know exactly why when you yellin' in intensive
My fellas is offensive
Lucky 'cause I got guns that crack your back
But that's not what I prefer, I manufacture crack
And ****** turn bitch when you show 'em the steel
But we know how to bid so y'all go 'head and squeal
I'm comfortable far from home
Eating right, getting good rest either on the bar or the phone
I'm the reason ****** got deals the past few years
"Sound anything like Kiss? Then sign right here!"
And, y'all just talking, I'm doing it well
Jadakiss, mother****er, I'mma see you in Hell
We gon' make it
We gon' make it, we gon' make it
We gon' make it
We gon' make it, we gon' make it
We gon' make it

[72-10]

oh goody




























another poll huh?

[72-10]

specify at will

[ImKobe]

He's not even top 20.

[FromDowntown]

He's not even top 20.

He is comfortably top three and I dont even like the man

[SpaceJammeR]

i don't rank lebron james. he's just too good.

[And1AllDay]

1a Bran
1b Bean

[Lebron6]

1a Bran
1b Bean
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[AussieSteve]

He's not even top 20.

Name 20 better.

[Lebron6]

LeGOAT.

[Turbo Slayer]

LeGOAT.
:rockon:

[And1AllDay]

OP 73-9 ranked bran 11th

:oldlol: :roll:

no wonder your mad you made a name 72-10 and warriors shit on that with 73-9 :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :roll: :roll: :roll:


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[Turbo Slayer]

ANOTHA

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WE ALL BROTHERS

LeTHICC :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

LETS GOOOOO

[And1AllDay]

WE ALL BROTHERS

LeTHICC :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

LETS GOOOOO


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[72-10]

u be illin so im buggin out

[And1AllDay]

u be illin so im buggin out

come on man...

[knicksman]

The top 10 players are also the top 10 players I would build around. After what kawhi did last season winning in his first try without superteam, you really think I would pick lebron over him because he has more MVPs. LOL

[Turbo Slayer]

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[And1AllDay]

The top 10 players are also the top 10 players I would build around. After what kawhi did last season winning in his first try without superteam, you really think I would pick lebron over him because he has more MVPs. LOL

kawhi hopped on a 60 win team and added Gasol and Siakam improved what do you think would happen against a team that lost three players like klay, durant, and demarcus? not to mention looney for a game, curry was banged up, and iggy was banged up

you not so bright bruh :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

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youre a brother to me.. LETS GOOOO
Brothers 4 lyfe my G

[ImKobe]

The top 10 players are also the top 10 players I would build around. After what kawhi did last season winning in his first try without superteam, you really think I would pick lebron over him because he has more MVPs. LOL

Yeah that's hilarious :lol I'll take the superior scorer and defensive player over a pass-first forward who stat-pads in blowouts.

[Turbo Slayer]

Brothers 4 lyfe my G
#NevaDie
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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WE BACK!!!!!!!!!!

[knicksman]

kawhi hopped on a 60 win team and added Gasol and Siakam improved what do you think would happen against a team that lost three players like klay, durant, and demarcus? not to mention looney for a game, curry was banged up, and iggy was banged up

you not so bright bruh :oldlol:

triggered brah. The truth hurts. Kawhi won in his first try in toronto. Lebron + 2 superstars in miami couldnt. That means kawhi is better than 3 superstars. Ouch. A guy who doesnt even have an MVP in his belt. LOL

[SpaceJam]

kawhi hopped on a 60 win team and added Gasol and Siakam improved what do you think would happen against a team that lost three players like klay, durant, and demarcus? not to mention looney for a game, curry was banged up, and iggy was banged up

you not so bright bruh :oldlol:

Than refused to join the Clippers unless they got a top 3 MVP/DPoY player in Paul George who he can team up with

[Duncan21formvp]

No player is top 3 in any sport with a losing record on the highest stage.

[stalkerforlife]

15-20.

Give guys like Malone and Barkley his rosters in that east and they win multiple titles.

[HylianNightmare]

He is comfortably top three and I dont even like the man
No argument as a lbj hater. I voted 3 but even as I voted I knew he was 2

[Turbo Slayer]

No argument as a lbj hater. I voted 3 but even as I voted I knew he was 2
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

You are a kind man. :oldlol:

[3ball]

Most people have Bird as a fringe top 10 at this point

But Bird was taller than Lebron with much bigger hands and banged inside better, including better rebounding and post game (so he was a better inside player)..

Bird also shot the ball much better and found teammates better without dominating the ball (better perimeter scorer and better passer/teamwork)

So he was a better inside player, rebounder, post player, and a better shooter/passer.. And he also turned around a bad team better... and better clutch, mental toughness, and inspiration/leadership...... aka BETTER.. lebron is behind Bird all-time

[72-10]

bop

[coin24]

Probably around 19-20..

Couldn't win as the man, needed super team ups just to lose 6 finals..
Pathetic really..

Taco Tuesday cringe drops him at least another spot

[red1]

top-2 all-time.

[Round Mound]

Most people have Bird as a fringe top 10 at this point

But Bird was taller than Lebron with much bigger hands and banged inside better, including better rebounding and post game (so he was a better inside player)..

Bird also shot the ball much better and found teammates better without dominating the ball (better perimeter scorer and better passer/teamwork)

So he was a better inside player, rebounder, post player, and a better shooter/passer.. And he also turned around a bad team better... and better clutch, mental toughness, and inspiration/leadership...... aka BETTER.. lebron is behind Bird all-time

This.

[tpols]

Most people have Bird as a fringe top 10 at this point

But Bird was taller than Lebron with much bigger hands and banged inside better, including better rebounding and post game (so he was a better inside player)..

Bird also shot the ball much better and found teammates better without dominating the ball (better perimeter scorer and better passer/teamwork)

So he was a better inside player, rebounder, post player, and a better shooter/passer.. And he also turned around a bad team better... and better clutch, mental toughness, and inspiration/leadership...... aka BETTER.. lebron is behind Bird all-time


The sad thing is.. if lebron wins a title with these super stacked teams many casuals will rank him over bird indisputably.

Even though Bird's best teammate was kevin mchale... while lebron had bosh, love, and davis from all separate team hops and wade / kyrie to boot.

Can you imagine if lebron only had bird's help and couldnt relocate?

He'd be a juiced up bernard king or something.

[Gotterdammerung]

These all-time lists depend on the criteria by which we judge greatness.

If it is based on career, accolades, dominance, then James should be in the top 5, easily. Maybe top 3 if he continues to dominate for a few more years, behind Russell and Abdul-Jabbar. Next to Duncan.

But if it is based on peak, when athletic gifts and cerebral skills merge in perfection, then perhaps James is at least top 10 if not top 5. I rank Jordan and Chamberlain ahead of him easily. O'Neal, Bryant, Olajuwon, Robertson and the young Abdul-Jabbar. Others like Doctor J and Magic and Bird belong up there as well. :cheers:

[superduper]

Hey OP where's the "loser without running away to multiple superteams" option?

[red1]

Hey OP where's the "loser without running away to multiple superteams" option?
same place as the "loser who changes to the other team's avatar midway through the series when embiid his first team starts losing" option.

[PickernRoller]

13th, some Dr. J fans could make a case for that spot but I'm gonna give it to him just to please his fans.

[CodeBreaker]

1. MJ
2. LeBron
3. doesn't matter

[SpaceJam2]

OP 73-9 ranked bran 11th

:oldlol: :roll:

no wonder your mad you made a name 72-10 and warriors shit on that with 73-9 :oldlol:

:roll: :roll:

[Marchesk]

Throw out the top and bottom answers. Obvious troll responses.

[SpaceJam2]

LBJ playoffs ranks

Points 1st
VORP 1st
Game winners 1st
Steals 1st
Win shares 1st
BPM 1st
FMVPs as defensive anchor 1st (x3)


Its just not close

Next

:dancin

[SouBeachTalents]

The sad thing is.. if lebron wins a title with these super stacked teams many casuals will rank him over bird indisputably.

Even though Bird's best teammate was kevin mchale... while lebron had bosh, love, and davis from all separate team hops and wade / kyrie to boot.

Can you imagine if lebron only had bird's help and couldnt relocate?

He'd be a juiced up bernard king or something.
This idiot actually trying to pretend McHale/Parish/DJ isn't an all time great supporting cast :lol

[CAstill]

I got him 7th all time. I think it’s super fair

[Ainosterhaspie]

This idiot actually trying to pretend McHale/Parish/DJ isn't an all time great supporting cast :lol
You forgot Walton. 86 Celtics were absurdly stacked.

[SpaceJam2]

LBJ playoffs ranks

Points 1st
VORP 1st
Game winners 1st
Steals 1st
Win shares 1st
BPM 1st
FMVPs as defensive anchor 1st (x3)


Its just not close

Next

:dancin

Anyone?

[eliteballer]

Can't rank a juicer PED abuser.

[2swift4u]

this whole topic is redundant. First of all Lebron is not done yet and secondly most people here just hate on Lebron because he's been beating their teams. So let him finish his career, wait a couple of years and then you'll see most people will rank him much higher than right now.

[Andrei89]

this whole topic is redundant. First of all Lebron is not done yet and secondly most people here just hate on Lebron because he's been beating their teams. So let him finish his career, wait a couple of years and then you'll see most people will rank him much higher than right now.


Come on man this is ISH. Maybe 2% of the users have "teams":lol

[72-10]

No player is top 3 in any sport with a losing record on the highest stage.

it's an excellent point, although I didn't really consider him for that high a ranking anyhow

if he could hit something, anything from 15 to the three, that would help

[MaxPlayer]

No player is top 3 in any sport with a losing record on the highest stage.

Jim Brown: 1-2 in NFL Championship Games
Willie Mays: 1-3 in World Series
Barry Bonds: 0-1 in World Series
Gordie Howe: 4-7 in Stanley Cup Finals

[72-10]

Jim Brown: 1-2 in NFL Championship Games
Willie Mays: 1-3 in World Series
Barry Bonds: 0-1 in World Series
Gordie Howe: 4-7 in Stanley Cup Finals

who da fukk would consider Bonds top 3 in baseball?:roll:

[MaxPlayer]

who da fukk would consider Bonds top 3 in baseball?:roll:

I'm sure a lot of people do. His hitting numbers make anyone else not named Babe Ruth or Ted Williams look utterly pathetic. And he was a much better defender and baserunner than either of them.

[egokiller]

Jim Brown: 1-2 in NFL Championship Games
Willie Mays: 1-3 in World Series
Barry Bonds: 0-1 in World Series
Gordie Howe: 4-7 in Stanley Cup Finals

No....

Jerry Rice is GOAT NFL
Babe Ruth is GOAT MLB
Wayne Gretzky is GOAT NHL

Know your shit bro....

[MaxPlayer]

No....

Jerry Rice is GOAT NFL
Babe Ruth is GOAT MLB
Wayne Gretzky is GOAT NHL

Know your shit bro....

Uhh he said "top 3".

Reading is fundamental snoop...

[SouBeachTalents]

No....

Jerry Rice is GOAT NFL
Babe Ruth is GOAT MLB
Wayne Gretzky is GOAT NHL

Know your shit bro....
Brady > Rice

[72-10]

I'm sure a lot of people do. His hitting numbers make anyone else not named Babe Ruth or Ted Williams look utterly pathetic. And he was a much better defender and baserunner than either of them.

Bonds played left field. It's the easiest part of the park to field.

Baserunner? Bonds couldn't hit a triple to save his life. Ruth is like top 80 all-time in triples.

Williams' glove sucked, although Fenway is hard to field, but anyways...


nah Bonds got balls in every game during that era. they gave him pitches. and then he got pitches right down the heart of the plate.

not to mention (and everyone seems to forget this) the sun sets later on the California coast, especially on the San Francisco Bay, which means Bonds got an extra at-bat in each game when it was still light out compared to the rest of the leagues


Bonds was like a top 30 player before 1998 and then probably ended up around top 10

[72-10]

it's debatable if Bonds was even the best batter in the Giants lineup

the idea of baseball is to get a hit

his average ain't even .300

[MaxPlayer]

it's debatable if Bonds was even the best batter in the Giants lineup

LOL... who was, then?

Also, Fenway has the easiest left field to play because it's so tiny, and hitters don't hit any better in daylight. (Not that any of that matters.)

[SouBeachTalents]

it's debatable if Bonds was even the best batter in the Giants lineup

the idea of baseball is to get a hit

his average ain't even .300
:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[Hey Yo]

it's debatable if Bonds was even the best batter in the Giants lineup

the idea of baseball is to get a hit

his average ain't even .300
Who was better.... J.T. Snow??

:lol

[72-10]

whateva, I can easily name three better players: Ruth, Mays, Aaron, Gehrig, Williams, A-Rod, DiMaggio, then you have debatable ones like Pujols and Mantle.

[MaxPlayer]

whateva, I can easily name three better players: Ruth, Mays, Aaron, Gehrig, Williams, A-Rod, DiMaggio, then you have debatable ones like Pujols and Mantle.

Well I guess everyone has an opinion...

[Mr. Jabbar]

i fvcking hate lelbron but he is 1, or even higher (thats how high he is)

[John8204]

I got him at #3, when he breaks Kareem's record I move him to #2 over Wilt

[3ba11]

I got him at #3, when he breaks Kareem's record I move him to #2 over Wilt


Lebron never carried bed-wetting sidekicks over top 5 SRS teams (no carry-jobs against good teams) and he can't beat maximum defensive attention on the highest level (never carried scoring load while winning a Finals).. Ultimately, he only learned how to team-hop (talent-based winning) and never learning how to WIN (organic chemistry).

Lebron's inability to carry teams stems from his lack of elite jumpshooting skill, which makes his high scoring levels too ball dominant to beat good teams (09'), or too inefficient at the extra jumpshooting volume (15').

Ultimately, he never evolved out of ball-dominant offenses that revolve around him, so he never learned to elevate teammates beyond spot-up roles.. Since he can't elevate teammates, he never learned how to win (organic chemistry) and therefore needed to team-hop (talent-based winning).

[John8204]

Lebron never carried bed-wetting sidekicks over top 5 SRS teams (no carry-jobs against good teams) and he can't beat maximum defensive attention on the highest level (never carried scoring load while winning a Finals).. Ultimately, he only learned how to team-hop (talent-based winning) and never learning how to WIN (organic chemistry).

Lebron's inability to carry teams stems from his lack of elite jumpshooting skill, which makes his high scoring levels too ball dominant to beat good teams (09'), or too inefficient at the extra jumpshooting volume (15').

Ultimately, he never evolved out of ball-dominant offenses that revolve around him, so he never learned to elevate teammates beyond spot-up roles.. Since he can't elevate teammates, he never learned how to win (organic chemistry) and therefore needed to team-hop (talent-based winning).

Yeah I don't know what you are saying..

1. Lebron is the best player of his generation
2. Lebron is on pace to break most NBA records
3. Lebron is in my opinion the MVP for the third amount of seasons behind Wilt and MJ

[3ba11]

.
Lebron Theory

Iverson, Kidd, Dwight and 07' Lebron won the East with 1-star teams, so a good team wasn't needed to win the East most years, while Lebron was lottery out West without AD.. People forget that the 18' Cavs had the best sidekick the conference, while previous runs with super-teams provided an experience edge that was unmatched - they had a 2-star team of veteran champions against young, 0-star opponents... The East was simply weak while Lebron could only win out West as "pippen" - AD led the Lakers in scoring for regular season and playoffs, while elevating the Lakers' defense from worst to first.

The stats confirm that Lebron cannot carry teams - Lebron never carried bed-wetting sidekicks over top 5 SRS teams (no carry-jobs against good teams in 2 decades) and he can't beat maximum defensive attention on the highest level (never carried scoring load while winning a Finals).

Lebron's inability to carry teams stems from his lack of elite jumpshooting skill (no off-ball/pure scoring or running off screens), which makes his high scoring levels too ball dominant and predictable to beat good teams (09'), or too inefficient at the extra jumpshooting volume (15').

Ultimately, he never evolved out of ball-dominant offenses that revolve around him, so he never learned to elevate teammates beyond spot-up roles.. Since he can't elevate teammates, he never learned how to win (organic chemistry) and therefore needed to team-hop (talent-based winning).. Talent-based winning loses to organic ball movement, so Lebron has a lottery record against the Spurs, Mavs, and Warriors.

[1987_Lakers]

Who was better.... J.T. Snow??

:lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzV7x8WcR4g

[Dagoods]

This is almost as embarrassing as "Let's go Brandon" winning the election.
21 FAWGS and counting voted for LeB!tch!!!

[Spurs m8]

This is almost as embarrassing as "Let's go Brandon" winning the election.
21 FAWGS and counting voted for LeB!tch!!!

Take alts into account and its about 5 people max

[FKAri]

The only person you can't argue him being above is MJ imo. So anywhere between 2-8.

[John8204]

The only person you can't argue him being above is MJ imo. So anywhere between 2-8.

I can see the argument, I don't agree with it because I'm not a crazy person...the people who have him "15 or lower"

3ba11, BallsOut, BigKobeFan, bison, coin24, Draz, HunterSThompson, ImKobe, itsGameTime, Patrick Chewing, SamuraiSWISH, SouBeachTalents, Spurs m8, stalkerforlife, superduper

I don't know how you can be taken seriously

[colts19]

You forgot Walton. 86 Celtics were absurdly stacked.

You do realize that Walton was a shadow of his former self in 86. He was may 60 percent of his younger self.

[SATAN]

Goat.