Has the myth that LeBron makes players worse ended?

[Gus Hemmingway]

AD and Dwight putting up their best seasons so far :eek: :eek:


LeBron got 34 y/o Dwight playing better than Kobe made a prime Dwight play :eek:

[And1AllDay]

also dont forget kyrie disappearing in boston as soon as he had the keys to a ecf teams without him :oldlol:

also dont forget love when all the kids on the board said cavs are guaranteed a playoff team without bran in 2019 :oldlol:

also dont forget mo williams becoming a all star for 1 year somehow :oldlol:

also dont forget g league outback steakhouse server Dellevedova getting PAID after one finals series

also dont forget mozgov getting PAID after one year with bran

the list goes on my friend

we

stay

winning :rockon:

[Turbo Slayer]

we stay winning.

If old bron was replaced by miami bron. THESE HATERS would be shook!!

You my man!!!:cheers: :cheers: :banana: :banana: :banana:

[ImKobe]

Anyone could deliver Davis the post-entry pass, Ad was already putting up the same production last year before the trade request.

Only the Lebron stans seem to not know he was already a 28/11 guy in 2017 and 2018 and would have been averaging the same numbers he's averaging this season if the trade request didn't happen.

Lebron hasn't affected his offensive production at all.

[keep-itreal]

Westbrook is the opposite of Lebron.

Everyone plays better after leaving Westbrook. Oladipo, Serge Ibaka, Kevin Durant, James Harden. Paul George will have a monster season as well since Westbrook isn't hogging the ball 90% of the time :lol

[Turbo Slayer]

Westbrook is the opposite of Lebron.

Everyone plays better after leaving Westbrook. Oladipo, Serge Ibaka, Kevin Durant, James Harden. Paul George will have a monster season as well since Westbrook isn't hogging the ball 90% of the time :lol
:pimp: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

LeBron is on a different level..

:cheers:

[ImKobe]

Westbrook is the opposite of Lebron.

Everyone plays better after leaving Westbrook. Oladipo, Serge Ibaka, Kevin Durant, James Harden. Paul George will have a monster season as well since Westbrook isn't hogging the ball 90% of the time :lol

Except KD and Ibaka had their best individual seasons with Westbrook, Paul George went from an all-star to a superstar last season with Russ.

This forum is so retarded.

[Gus Hemmingway]

Anyone could deliver Davis the post-entry pass, Ad was already putting up the same production last year before the trade request.

Only the Lebron stans seem to not know he was already a 28/11 guy in 2017 and 2018 and would have been averaging the same numbers he's averaging this season if the trade request didn't happen.

Lebron hasn't affected his offensive production at all.

Why did Kobe miss the playoffs with a prime Dwight, why is LeBron a #1 seed with a 34 year old Dwight?? :confusedshrug:

[ImKobe]

Why did Kobe miss the playoffs with a prime Dwight, why is LeBron a #1 seed with a 34 year old Dwight?? :confusedshrug:

Maybe because Dwight is a bench player with Lebron while he was the 2nd best player on the 2013 Lakers? Ever thought of that?

[Gus Hemmingway]

Maybe because Dwight is a bench player with Lebron while he was the 2nd best player on the 2013 Lakers? Ever thought of that?

Yes, cause Kobe got a 3x DPOY prime Dwight, and LeBron got the corpse of Dwight after no other team in the league wanted him :lol


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And Lebron still has the better record :oldlol: :banana:

[SpaceJam]

Danny Green says AD is still not in game shape or himself due to being out last season. "For him to have 40/20 and not he's not back to himself yet, the way he did it made it look so easy. It's kind of scary where he could go, especially playing with LeBron"

'especially playing with LeBron'

The players know.

It's been a myth all along, often told by virgin haters

[Turbo Slayer]

'especially playing with LeBron'

The players know.

It's been a myth all along, often told by virgin haters
:applause: :applause: :applause:

[ImKobe]

Yes, cause Kobe got a 3x DPOY prime Dwight, and LeBron got the corpse of Dwight after no other team in the league wanted him :lol


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And Lebron still has the better record :oldlol: :banana:

Lebron has a peak AD who is better than any version of Dwight.

I'll just ignore list you and save my time in the future.

[knicksman]

After kawhi has proven that you can win without superteams. The myth that lebron is a low impact player is now a reality.

[SpaceJam]

After kawhi has proven that you can win without superteams. The myth that lebron is a low impact player is now a reality.

Kawhi had more all star teammates than Bron did in 2016 :cheers:

[Andrei89]

Didn

[3ball]

Wtf are you talking about OP

The Lebron's 2020 team is a ready-made team of experienced veteran stars - no one is super-young and needing improvement.

So you're wrong - Lebron has never transformed a young team of single-digit rookies into champions and all-star-caliber players like MJ did with BJ/Grant/Pip from 89-93'..

Only MJ "elevated" and improved a young, inexperienced team into champions and all-stars

And the reason he "elevated" his team was because the critics said that was the reason he didn't win like Bird and Magic - no one gave a crap that he was working with scawny, single-digit rookies while Magic/Bird had HOF teammates.. no one babied MJ like they do Lebron - MJ had to "elevate" his shit franchise and he did so, while lebron is gifted studs like Wade, Kyrie, and AD but isn't even the favorite and asks for more help

Look how you guys are celebrating Lebron's victory over some 21-year old Euro like he won the championship.. When MJ beat Kobe in 98', it was business as usual, and Kobe had prime Shaq as a teammate, not Porhinges..

MJ would win 70 games and have the goat team with AD, specifically because he'd produce the same or greater offense as lebron, but with much less hold time, thus giving teammates more time to move the ball and play to capacity
.

[SouBeachTalents]

Wtf are you talking about OP

The Lebron's 2020 team is a ready-made team of experienced veteran stars - no one is super-young and needing improvement.. No one is playing better than they ever have, except AD, who was already a top 3 player and ascending.

So you're wrong - Lebron has never transformed a young team of single-digit rookies into champions and all-star-caliber players like MJ did with BJ/Grant/Pip from 89-93'..

Only MJ "elevated" and improved a young, inexperienced team into champions and all-stars

And the reason he "elevated" his team was because the critics said that was the reason he didn't win like Bird and Magic - no one gave a crap that he was working with scawny, single-digit rookies while Magic/Bird had HOF teammates.. no one babied MJ like they do Lebron - MJ had to "elevate" his shit franchise and he did so, while lebron is gifted studs like Wade, Kyrie, and AD but isn't even the favorite and asks for more help

Look how you guys are celebrating Lebron's victory over some 21-year old Euro like he won the championship.. When MJ beat Kobe in 98', it was business as usual, and Kobe had prime Shaq as a teammate, not Porhinges..

MJ would win 70 games and have the goat team with AD, specifically because he'd produce the same or greater offense, with much less hold time, thus giving teammates more time to move the ball and play to capacity
1-9

[knicksman]

Kawhi had more all star teammates than Bron did in 2016 :cheers:

kawhi won without a superteam. Move on brah.

[warriorfan]

At least the myth has ended that op walks on two legs

[3ball]

MJ's 1-9 was an accelerated learning curve that he was good enough to be on, while most young players like Durant, Lebron, Curry, Giannis or Kyrie MISSED the playoffs early-on, thus failing to lay a strong foundation that would allow organic rings as opposed to fake team-hopped rings


Agreed for once, wow.. :cheers:

[warriorfan]

Lebron has zero organically developed rings

[SpaceJam]

Wtf are you talking about OP

The Lebron's 2020 team is a ready-made team of experienced veteran stars - no one is super-young and needing improvement.

So you're wrong - Lebron has never transformed a young team of single-digit rookies into champions and all-star-caliber players like MJ did with BJ/Grant/Pip from 89-93'..

Only MJ "elevated" and improved a young, inexperienced team into champions and all-stars

And the reason he "elevated" his team was because the critics said that was the reason he didn't win like Bird and Magic - no one gave a crap that he was working with scawny, single-digit rookies while Magic/Bird had HOF teammates.. no one babied MJ like they do Lebron - MJ had to "elevate" his shit franchise and he did so, while lebron is gifted studs like Wade, Kyrie, and AD but isn't even the favorite and asks for more help

Look how you guys are celebrating Lebron's victory over some 21-year old Euro like he won the championship.. When MJ beat Kobe in 98', it was business as usual, and Kobe had prime Shaq as a teammate, not Porhinges..

MJ would win 70 games and have the goat team with AD, specifically because he'd produce the same or greater offense as lebron, but with much less hold time, thus giving teammates more time to move the ball and play to capacity
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:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Turbo Slayer]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

3ball spelled it wrong. LMAO.

[3ball]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
That was on purpose

Anyway, Lebron needs ready-made teams because his style turns teammates into spot-up shooters, which doesn't develop teammates, thus necessitating the ready-made stars/teams via team-hopping

Ultimately, Lebron's 1-ball-dominator and 4 shooters approach is a basic way to play and a low ball movement/low team assist brand that struggles on the championship level... he's simply a CP3-style ball-dominator and skillset that avoided the career-losing fate of other ball-dominators by team-hopping for the extra supporting talent the style needs to win, aka a 3rd star or best player in league caliber sidekick, aka AD

[Gus Hemmingway]

That was on purpose

Anyway, Lebron needs ready-made teams because his style turns teammates into spot-up shooters, which doesn't develop teammates, thus necessitating the ready-made stars/teams via team-hopping

Ultimately, Lebron's 1-ball-dominator and 4 shooters approach is a basic way to play and a low ball movement/low team assist brand that struggles on the championship level... he's simply a CP3-style ball-dominator and skillset that avoided the career-losing fate of other ball-dominators by team-hopping for the extra supporting talent the style needs to win, aka a 3rd star or best player in league caliber sidekick, aka AD

Why was LeBron able to win without an allstar teammate in 2016?

Why did Jordan lose with an all star teammate in 1990 and 1995?

[knicksman]

Why was LeBron able to win without an allstar teammate in 2016?

Why did Jordan lose with an all star teammate in 1990 and 1995?

kyrie the all star MVP. The best among all stars. Even better than lebron:lol

[Duncan21formvp]

Why was LeBron able to win without an allstar teammate in 2016?

Why did Jordan lose with an all star teammate in 1990 and 1995?
Jordan won multiple titles without and allstar. Won in 1991 and 1998 without one and his first title without one. Lebron won having a guy who outplayed the league mvp and who hit the game winner on the mvp as well.

[Uncle Drew]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Yo. :roll:

[FireDavidKahn]

kawhi won without a superteam. Move on brah.
Umm...The Raptors won 59 games the year before Kawhi joined and replaced Derozan with Kawhi and Danny Green.:oldlol:

Yes that was a superteam in terms of overall talent.

[Rico2016]

Umm...The Raptors won 59 games the year before Kawhi joined and replaced Derozan with Kawhi and Danny Green.:oldlol:

Yes that was a superteam in terms of overall talent.


And Marc Gasol, And Siakam improved a ton

[Turbo Slayer]

And Marc Gasol, And Siakam improved a ton
Marc Gasol and Siakam at their peak:

Marc in Memphis: 20/5/6

Siakam(right now): 26/3/7

:eek:

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[Hey Yo]

Jordan won multiple titles without and allstar. Won in 1991 and 1998 without one and his first title without one. Lebron won having a guy who outplayed the league mvp and who hit the game winner on the mvp as well.
Pippen was All-NBA in 91 and 98.

All-NBA >>>> All-star

[LAL]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaYD_DIzARK4XKqwfB-MQ0Q/videos

Check this out please.

[DoctorP]

LeBron never made people worse. Their stats just go down cause Branball rules the court

[bullettooth]

AD is the captain of this team. It aint some old balding 3/9 glorified loser named LeBron.

[RealSkipBayless]

Marc Gasol and Siakam at their peak:

Marc in Memphis: 20/5/6

Siakam(right now): 26/3/7

:eek:

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
Give Lebron that much help and he sweeps that GS team. :applause:

[bullettooth]

Give Lebron that much help and he sweeps that GS team. :applause:

LOL, LeBron's had so much help in his career.... still ended up 3/9.

[sportjames23]

LOL, LeBron's had so much help in his career.... still ended up 3/9.

Sad, ain

[tpols]

AD is the perfect player for bran ball. The guy has 0 passing ability and is an extremely effective quick strike scorer...same reason kyrie was a good fit. He still doesn't and would never fit well with other playmaker or posting types.

[iamgine]

Westbrook is the opposite of Lebron.

Everyone plays better after leaving Westbrook. Oladipo, Serge Ibaka, Kevin Durant, James Harden. Paul George will have a monster season as well since Westbrook isn't hogging the ball 90% of the time :lol
Untrue tho. Durant & George played their best season with Russ.

[The Iron Fist]

Kawhi had more all star teammates than Bron did in 2016 :cheers:
He makes his teammates better, lebron doesn

[AlternativeAcc.]

Untrue tho. Durant & George played their best season with Russ.
Those coincidental examples mean nothing. OKC was always extremely top heavy and needed ridiculous production out of their top 1/2 players. Doesn't mean Westbrook maximizes talent, because he clearly does not. Of course Durant had his best statistical years in OKC and not Golden state. Of course George had his best season at age 28 on a team that desperately needed scoring production.

[Manny98]

Crazy how LeBrons got AD playing at full capacity next to him whilst still getting his godly numbers

Shame Kobe couldn't do the same with Dwight Howard :(