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D-Wade316
11-04-2019, 07:59 AM
Last time the NBA played this fast was back in 1982-1983. :lol :biggums:

Return of inflated stats?

Andrei89
11-04-2019, 10:05 AM
OP melting down as usual

STATUTORY
11-04-2019, 11:07 AM
there is an unspoken rule in the league right now to not play defense unless its against select match ups

juju151111
11-04-2019, 12:14 PM
Last time the NBA played this fast was back in 1982-1983. :lol :biggums:

Return of inflated stats?
Just look wt advance stats and you can get adjusted stats on pace and such.

FireDavidKahn
11-04-2019, 12:30 PM
And since 1973-74 (oldest data on bbref) the ORTG this year is 26th out of 47.

People have a hard time separating that a higher pace means less defense.

superduper
11-04-2019, 12:46 PM
Stats are a joke and Bran knows it.

hiphopanonymous
11-04-2019, 12:57 PM
there is an unspoken rule in the league right now to not play defense unless its against select match ups
Plus there are actual rules that outright banned defense

The let's shatter all 3 point records rule; "new for the 2018 season, offball handchecking/contact has now been banned"

Forget on ball physicality you aren't even allowed to slow down a guy curling out for a 3 point catch and shoot now :roll:

superduper
11-04-2019, 01:05 PM
Plus there are actual rules that outright banned defense

The let's shatter all 3 point records rule; "new for the 2018 season, offball handchecking/contact has now been banned"

Forget on ball physicality you aren't even allowed to slow down a guy curling out for a 3 point catch and shoot now :roll:

And I know people IRL that have the audacity to say the game and its rules are the same as they've always been :oldlol: :roll: :wtf:

No shocker it's a Bran stan.

hiphopanonymous
11-04-2019, 01:09 PM
And since 1973-74 (oldest data on bbref) the ORTG this year is 26th out of 47.

People have a hard time separating that a higher pace means less defense.
I think higher pace doesn't always mean less defense as much as when you combine it and tie it with the FG% does - sometimes higher pace comes from ball handlers being under greater duress, rushing up shots to just avoid turnovers (a missed rushed fga is better than an outright turnover - but in that context you get high pace with low fg%, such as the way older eras when ball handling and traveling rules were more strict). BUT when you combine high pace with high FG%... yikes, clear-cut sign of two things: Ball handlers are NOT under any sort of duress, and shots are NOT willing or able to be well defended (in this era I don't think it's a willingness as much as it is rules). The game is so wide open today compared to all prior eras in all facets from ball handling/traveling to hands-off defense.

FireDavidKahn
11-04-2019, 01:12 PM
I think higher pace doesn't always mean less defense as much as when you combine it and tie it with the FG% does - sometimes higher pace comes from ball handlers being under greater duress, rushing up shots to just avoid turnovers (a missed rushed fga is better than an outright turnover - but in that context you get high pace with low fg%, such as the way older eras when ball handling and traveling rules were more strict). BUT when you combine high pace with high FG%... yikes, clear-cut sign of two things: Ball handlers are NOT under duress, and shots are NOT willing or able to be well defended (in this era I don't think it's a willingness as much as it is rules)
Looking at the FG%?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html

44th out of 74 seasons in the history of the NBA.

Anything other facts you want brought to your attention?

The top 6 seasons in NBA history according to FG% all happened in the 1980's

hiphopanonymous
11-04-2019, 01:20 PM
Looking at the FG%?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html

44th out of 74 seasons in the history of the NBA.

Anything other facts you want brought to your attention?

The top 6 seasons in NBA history according to FG% all happened in the 1980's
Context;

We're getting that fg% neutralized on paper - with a whopping 34 23+ foot shot attempts per game, a record high by a mile compared to eras prior. That's why efg% of the past 5 seasons (this era) is at a never before seen level. Players have all the time and comfort level in the world to either go for 3 points, or be at the rim. They aren't under the amount of duress past eras were and this trend is continuing with rule changes most fans will miss such as what I mentioned the season prior with banning off-ball hand checking.

juju151111
11-04-2019, 01:20 PM
And since 1973-74 (oldest data on bbref) the ORTG this year is 26th out of 47.

People have a hard time separating that a higher pace means less defense.
Pace has noting to do with defense. Facts GS was running around in 15-17 shooting quick and still had a greeat defensive team.

juju151111
11-04-2019, 01:26 PM
Looking at the FG%?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html

44th out of 74 seasons in the history of the NBA.

Anything other facts you want brought to your attention?

The top 6 seasons in NBA history according to FG% all happened in the 1980's
Thats because they didn't take 3 point shots like that in the 80s. You can't compare it directly because 3s go in leess, but are worth more points. So FG% will be lower. So if somee 2000s years made FG% it was a special year, but we can just look at TS% or EFG% too equalize it.

3ball
11-04-2019, 03:36 PM
And since 1973-74 (oldest data on bbref) the ORTG this year is 26th out of 47.

People have a hard time separating that a higher pace means less defense.
ORtg was #1 all-time last year and the year prior.. and maybe even the year prior to that.

D-Wade316
11-06-2019, 06:05 AM
Yeah. Really puts into context the absurd triple-doubles and stats we have every night. They are impressive, of course, but something that should not be compared directly to stats even 10 years ago.

Uncle Drew
11-06-2019, 06:10 AM
The talent in the NBA is at an all-time high, of course the stats look magnificent.