View Full Version : better player all-time: curry or kawhi
the answer is obvious IMO, just wondering what you guys think.
RealSkipBayless
11-06-2019, 11:36 AM
Curry.
Kawhi will be lucky if he sniffs top 30. Puszy ass n1kka
Akeem34TheDream
11-06-2019, 11:42 AM
I care about the playoffs more therefore Kawhi.
I think it's kawhi, not even debatable.
I've never seen a player elevate their game in the playoffs the way he does. of current players only lebron can compare and even then it's not to the same degree.
curry is special too but man, the combination of that incredible defense and timely scoring - it's hard to beat.
kawhi is truly special. all of these jordan comparisons are unwarranted except him and kobe.
Nashty
11-06-2019, 04:40 PM
Idk, but both better than Kobe.
Idk, but both better than Kobe.
Bro you’re obsessed with Kobe. Ease up.
ArbitraryWater
11-06-2019, 04:49 PM
Curry is top 15, Kawhi about top 25
Trollsmasher
11-06-2019, 05:23 PM
kawhi's a fringe top 50 player right now
just doesn't have the volume
Uncle Drew
11-06-2019, 05:25 PM
Curry is the sole reason the entire league has changed and is changing. I'm going with him.
fourkicks44
11-06-2019, 05:39 PM
Kawhi.
Not even close IMHO.
Goat defender/two way player and Finals performer. Has proven it on different teams.
Enuff said.
AussieSteve
11-06-2019, 05:57 PM
Those saying Kawhi forget so quickly what curry was doing c.2016.
Kawhi is ATG. Curry was unprecedented.
SouBeachTalents
11-06-2019, 06:13 PM
Let's be real, 6 months ago, nobody would be saying Kawhi :lol You could definitely argue Kawhi's the better player, but ranked higher all time? Nah, gotta disagree there
fourkicks44
11-06-2019, 08:27 PM
Those saying Kawhi forget so quickly what curry was doing c.2016.
Kawhi is ATG. Curry was unprecedented.
What was he doing in 2016? Losing Finals?
GOAT performance that one :applause:
L8krH8tr
11-06-2019, 08:34 PM
Curry had Klay Thompson and Draymond to carry him. Kawhi had Duncan and Tony PArker, Ginobilli most his career. I would say they are freaking equally both the ultimate game changers when fully healthy with KD right there also.
CodeBreaker
11-06-2019, 08:55 PM
Curry. Not really close as of now
imdaman99
11-06-2019, 09:37 PM
Kawhi is only gonna move up. I don't know if Curry is.
Walk on Water
11-06-2019, 10:04 PM
I think it's kawhi, not even debatable.
I've never seen a player elevate their game in the playoffs the way he does. of current players only lebron can compare and even then it's not to the same degree.
curry is special too but man, the combination of that incredible defense and timely scoring - it's hard to beat.
kawhi is truly special. all of these jordan comparisons are unwarranted except him and kobe.
You’re saying not debatable.
Yet majority are saying it’s not close and it’s Curry.
StrongLurk
11-06-2019, 10:32 PM
Curry Easy.
Curry is top 20-25, Kawhi is top 75.
Kawhi doesn't even have 10,000 career points and has made like 2 all-nba teams.
However Kawhi will jump like crazy if he keeps playing like he is for the next 3-4 years.
CTbasketball92
11-06-2019, 11:04 PM
I think it's kawhi, not even debatable.
I've never seen a player elevate their game in the playoffs the way he does. of current players only lebron can compare and even then it's not to the same degree.
curry is special too but man, the combination of that incredible defense and timely scoring - it's hard to beat.
kawhi is truly special. all of these jordan comparisons are unwarranted except him and kobe.
I just don't get how you can think LeBron isn't to the same extent when his last playoffs (2018) he had a 14 bpm and .278 winshares per 48 minutes. Those are GOAT level numbers for the playoffs, and his team was far worse than Kawhi's. Consider his 51/8/8 game against GSW in Game 1 of the finals. That run and the one before it were both easily beyond Kawhi's best and really, nearly all of prime LeBron's playoff runs are at least as good.
No disrespect to Kawhi, though. Besides LeBron, he's the only player in the league that can raise his game in the playoffs no matter what the circumstances
BallsOut
11-06-2019, 11:05 PM
Both of them are better than Lebron, that's for sure.
Bronbron23
11-06-2019, 11:37 PM
Easily kawhi. If you say curry your an idiot. Kawhi has a similar impact offensively but is a million times better on the defensive end. He's also gonna have the same amount of chips by the end of this year but he'll have 3 more fmvp's
Easily kawhi. If you say curry your an idiot. Kawhi has a similar impact offensively but is a million times better on the defensive end. He's also gonna have the same amount of chips by the end of this year but he'll have 3 more fmvp's
Not even close my dude.
Bawkish
11-06-2019, 11:52 PM
Curry has already peaked and probably may not able to sniff that 1 award that has been eluding him since his 1st Finals appearance
Kawhi is still peaking and may achieve heights in the near future. He may be able to bring the old school fundamentals back into game.
Curry for now, Kawhi in 5-10 years
Celtics 1825
11-06-2019, 11:54 PM
Curry right now, when their careers are both over though I think Kawhi will overtake.
Bronbron23
11-07-2019, 12:49 AM
Not even close my dude.
Curry is better that's why I said similar and not better or as good but it's definitely close. Kawhi last year was 27 points on 50% shooting in regular season and 31 on 49% in playoffs. Curry was also 27 pts on 47% shooting. Playoffs he was 28 on 44%. This year was pretty much identical also. How is that not similar?
Don't forget curry is older than kawhi also so he obviously has more of a resume but kawhi is easily on Pace to be as good of a scorer. Curry is just way more fun and exciting to watch but they're scoring impact is almost the same.
the correct answer is kawhi - 10 points to anyone who got it right
kawhi just better at basketball. curry might rank higher currently but he'll get passed up for sure - deservedly so because again, kawhi is just better at basketball.
FultzNationRISE
11-11-2019, 01:41 PM
Regular season Curry
Playoffs Kawhi
Regular season Curry
Playoffs Kawhi
all-time stacked 73-wins or more team - I'll take curry
any other nonstacked non-73-win team - I'll go with kawhi
I think we just covered every possible scenario :applause:
Stephonit
11-11-2019, 02:01 PM
Current Hall of Fame odds according to Basketball Reference:
Curry 99.9%
Leonard 31%
Bronbron23
11-11-2019, 02:38 PM
Current Hall of Fame odds according to Basketball Reference:
Curry 99.9%
Leonard 31%
Kawhi is younger than curry. In 3 more years kawhi will have 1 or 2 more chips than curry and a shit ton more fmvp's. Right now it's probably curry but it will definitely be kawhi when there careers are all said and done
SouBeachTalents
11-11-2019, 02:39 PM
Current Hall of Fame odds according to Basketball Reference:
Curry 99.9%
Leonard 31%
That's just fcking retarded :oldlol: Kawhi could never play another game and he'd easily make the HOF
r0drig0lac
11-11-2019, 02:40 PM
after this season..Kawhi
ILLsmak
11-11-2019, 04:41 PM
kawhi's a fringe top 50 player right now
just doesn't have the volume
yo... haha.
If you've got dpoys and fmvps you are in the top 50, on top of all that other shit (rangz.) Honestly Kawhi is probably 'better' overall, but Curry has high chaos potential.
It's probably a wash. Right now, Kawhi is playing better... so in the now, we're taking Kawhi. in 2017, tho... you know? We can judge at the end.
Edit: yea if Kawhi chokes on his tongue tomorrow after biting it off while rubbing his head, he's still in the HOF. I wonder how they calculate those odds. Must give big weight to MVPs.
-Smak
ArbitraryWater
11-11-2019, 04:43 PM
Curry is better that's why I said similar and not better or as good but it's definitely close. Kawhi last year was 27 points on 50% shooting in regular season and 31 on 49% in playoffs. Curry was also 27 pts on 47% shooting. Playoffs he was 28 on 44%. This year was pretty much identical also. How is that not similar?
Don't forget curry is older than kawhi also so he obviously has more of a resume but kawhi is easily on Pace to be as good of a scorer. Curry is just way more fun and exciting to watch but they're scoring impact is almost the same.
you clearly dont understand basketball my dude
Bronbron23
11-11-2019, 05:07 PM
you clearly dont understand basketball my dude again check my history homeboy. I get most of my shit right on this forum.
And what am I wrong about? Kawhi right now is clearly better than curry. As far as careers go curry is ahead by a little because he has a longer resume but that won't be for long. Clippers are winning this year which will give kawhi 3 chips and 3 fmvp's. That would arguably put him above curry and when he repeats next year it will undeniably put him above him. Do you dispute this?
Bosnian Sajo
11-11-2019, 05:12 PM
again check my history homeboy. I get most of my shit right on this forum.
And what am I wrong about? Kawhi right now is clearly better than curry. As far as careers go curry is ahead by a little because he has a longer resume but that won't be for long. Clippers are winning this year which will give kawhi 3 chips and 3 fmvp's. That would arguably put him above curry and when he repeats next year it will undeniably put him above him. Do you dispute this?
Don't entertain him, bro.
superduper
11-11-2019, 05:31 PM
yo... haha.
If you've got dpoys and fmvps you are in the top 50, on top of all that other shit (rangz.) Honestly Kawhi is probably 'better' overall, but Curry has high chaos potential.
It's probably a wash. Right now, Kawhi is playing better... so in the now, we're taking Kawhi. in 2017, tho... you know? We can judge at the end.
Edit: yea if Kawhi chokes on his tongue tomorrow after biting it off while rubbing his head, he's still in the HOF. I wonder how they calculate those odds. Must give big weight to MVPs.
-Smak
As much as I love Curry and always defend him that Chaos potential is just not the same in the later rounds of the playoffs. He has one of the most lethal offensive impacts ever on his team in terms of gravity but Kawhi in the playoffs is a type of impact that Curry can never have due to sheer physical dominance. Not that I'm attributing Kawhi's success to his body but its a separating factor between the two and it's a big one.
Don't entertain him, bro.
Arby is a POS but he’s right about Curry being better.
Bronbron23
11-11-2019, 06:09 PM
Arby is a POS but he’s right about Curry being better.
How though. We saw what warriors look like without Klay. Steph with another all star and one of the best defenders in the game could barely keep from getting blown out. Klay has always been the most important warrior. Just look at 16 playoffs when they didn't have curry. Warriors didn't miss a beat. If you replaced Steph with kawhi warriors would have been fine this year. He'd give them similar offensive impact but way better defensive impact. Everyone is blinded with how exciting Steph is offensively to watch but his not even a top 5 overall impact in the game.
How though. We saw what warriors look like without Klay. Steph with another all star and one of the best defenders in the game could barely keep from getting blown out. Klay has always been the most important warrior. Just look at 16 playoffs when they didn't have curry. Warriors didn't miss a beat. If you replaced Steph with kawhi warriors would have been fine this year. He'd give them similar offensive impact but way better defensive impact. Everyone is blinded with how exciting Steph is offensively to watch but his not even a top 5 overall impact in the game.
Lol wow sample size much? You really think the Warriors would have been a bad team if Steph was healthy?
I can
Celtics 1825
11-11-2019, 06:17 PM
That's just fcking retarded :oldlol: Kawhi could never play another game and he'd easily make the HOF
Maybe it hasn't been updated to count 2019 yet? That's the only thing I can think of
Manny98
11-11-2019, 06:19 PM
How though. We saw what warriors look like without Klay. Steph with another all star and one of the best defenders in the game could barely keep from getting blown out. Klay has always been the most important warrior. Just look at 16 playoffs when they didn't have curry. Warriors didn't miss a beat. If you replaced Steph with kawhi warriors would have been fine this year. He'd give them similar offensive impact but way better defensive impact. Everyone is blinded with how exciting Steph is offensively to watch but his not even a top 5 overall impact in the game.
Bronbron with another gem :lol
Bronbron23
11-11-2019, 07:08 PM
[QUOTE=RRR3]Lol wow sample size much? You really think the Warriors would have been a bad team if Steph was healthy?
I can
This year? Yes warriors weren't gonna make the playoffs without Klay. And it's not trolling. Fans in general are obsessed with offence. Defence is just as important though.
The kdless warriors have a worse record when Klay missed games vs when Steph missed games. This is a fact. Even with that I'm not saying Klay is a better player than Steph I'm just saying in the warriors system he was the most important. He gives you great offence and great defence. Steph only gives you one. The Problem with you and other Steph fans is all you see is offence.
Let me try to break it down for you. Let's just curry is worth +20 more points than Klay as far as offensive impact. So that puts him up on Klay +20. Now how much of a negative is he defensively? It's at least -20 as far as defensive impact compared to Klay and that's being generous. so at best as far as impact on the warriors they're even.
Why do you think it was so easy to call that the warriors we're gonna get wrecked this year with Klay out? Everyone thought they'd be fine because they think Curry's impact is greater than what it was. I knew it wasn't though. So did a few others on here. They couldn't gaurd anyone. You had to unathletic gaurds getting there shit pushed in every night. Now replace curry with kawhi and now not only do you only have one weak link defensively now you have a defender that can impact the game even more than Draymond. Plus you don't get that worse offensively. It's really simple actually
The offensive gap between Curry and Klay is far bigger than the defensive gap. Check their RPMs.
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