Who is the most clutch player of all time?

[Akeem34TheDream]

Who is?

[Andrei89]

Stats or eye test?

If its eye-test, I say ISO Joe. I would take prime ISO Joe over anybody when there are 10 seconds left on the clock.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Stats or eye test?

If its eye-test, I say ISO Joe. I would take prime ISO Joe over anybody when there are 10 seconds left on the clock.
Of course eye test. Otherwise this wouldnt be a question.

[Dr Hawk]

Ray Allen has the clutchest shot of all-time.

Not saying he is my answer.

[SpaceJam2]

Of course eye test. Otherwise this wouldnt be a question.

Agreed. LeBron has more playoff game winners than any player in league history.

[superduper]

Honestly Paul Pierce is up there

[Manny98]

Let's check the stats....

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg

[superduper]

Let's check the stats....

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg

Durant Kyrie 3/16 :oldlol:

[Manny98]

Durant Kyrie 3/16 :oldlol:
GOAT - 12/23

Jordan & Kobe combined 12/37 :oldlol:

[SpaceJam2]

Let's check the stats....

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg

well that was ez


Close it up bois :dancin

[Round Mound]

Bird

[Turbo Slayer]

GOAT - 12/23

Jordan & Kobe combined 12/37 :oldlol:
LeGOAT :rockon: crazy

[CodeBreaker]

Jordan easily

[SpaceJam2]

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg


2ez

:hammertime:

[Marchesk]

Sam Jones

[And1AllDay]

Let's check the stats....

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg

Issa wrap

[Akeem34TheDream]

Last night sealed the deal I think.

[SpaceJam2]

Let's check the stats....

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg


Bingo

[SpaceJam2]

Last night sealed the deal I think.


He crack the top 10 yet? He make the board?

[Gileraracer]

Let's check the stats....

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg

STats not even true - Lebron dicksuckers making up stats again :roll:

[LAmbruh]

Let's check the stats....

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg
:rockon: :rockon: :dancin

[3ball]

Let's check the stats....

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg



^^^ That list measures a small sample (last 10 seconds), but if you increase the sample size to the last possession (last 24 seconds), MJ's superior clutch becomes more clear:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-08-2019/eY2j3S.gif



And if you look at the largest sample size (last 5 min of tight game), MJ's advantage looks nice and clear, even as an old man - its VERY RARE to see this kind of clear separation at the very top of any profession:


Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001



134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game



Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game


Old MJ had much higher clutch efficiency and attempts than Lebron - the goat in tight games[/QUOTE]

[3ball]

Let's check the stats....

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg



^^^ That list measures a small sample (last 10 seconds), but if you increase the sample size to the last possession (last 24 seconds), MJ's superior clutch becomes more clear:


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-08-2019/eY2j3S.gif



And if you look at the largest sample size (last 5 min of tight game), MJ's advantage looks nice and clear, even as an old man - its VERY RARE to see this kind of clear separation at the very top of any profession:


Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001



134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game



Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game


Old MJ had much higher clutch efficiency and attempts than Lebron - the goat in tight games[/QUOTE]

[3ball]

Let's check the stats....

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg



^^^ That list measures a small sample (last 10 seconds), but if you increase the sample size to the last possession (last 24 seconds), MJ's superior clutch becomes more clear - he wins it 50% of the time on the last possession, versus 37% for LeBron (0% in the Finals, 0-8):


https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-08-2019/eY2j3S.gif



And if you look at the largest sample size (last 5 min of tight game), MJ's advantage looks nice and clear, even as an old man - its VERY RARE to see this kind of clear separation at the very top of any profession:


Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001



134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=Y&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=5&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&margin_min=-5&margin_max=5&player_id=jamesle01&order_by=date_game



Jordan 1997 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals):. 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game


Old MJ had much higher clutch efficiency and attempts than Lebron - the goat in tight games and the goat clutch burden (attempts)

[scuzzy]

Let's check the stats....

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg
:bowdown:

[Akeem34TheDream]

Mmmm can stans get the fk out of this thread please? Jokic>Lebron and Kawhi>Jordan

[72-10]

The sharpshooting Reggie Miller one of the top five most clutch

[insidehoops]

Ignore the poll, but discuss the topic!

[Wally450]

Not all time, but I'm inclined to believe that Pierce is in the running.

[Horatio33]

Sam Jones

100%. Multiple finals game winning shits.

[tpols]

Michael Jordan is the obvious answer.

then you have runner ups

Bird
Dirk
Kobe
Pierce "the truth"
etc


Robert Horry and old Ray Allen for role players

[tpols]

Also shout out vince carter. He used to be a crunchtime assasin for NJ.

This was in Toronto after totally screwing them over. Everytime he touched the ball, the whole stadium boo'ed.

Look what he did to them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ploYPUsHsu8

:biggums:

That had to be the biggest **** you clutch moment ever.

[tpols]

tmac too. most gangster clutch comeback ever.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3EqY5gPrcU

[Manny98]

Joe Johnson

[Akeem34TheDream]

I voted for Jokic.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Joe Johnson

Oh sht good call.

[FultzNationRISE]

Let's check the stats....

https://i.postimg.cc/vBmdh158/j4byroq2z5231.jpg


Oh my.

[ImKobe]

Michael Jordan is the obvious answer.

then you have runner ups

Bird
Dirk
Kobe
Pierce "the truth"
etc


Robert Horry and old Ray Allen for role players

Kobe's clutch numbers are mad underrated, people want to focus on the last shot (which almost every high-volume shooter is inefficient on, and he took more 3s and than anybody in those situations), but he was top 5 in most seasons in either ppg or TS%.


Coaches might have been able to game plan to stop a singular shot from Kobe at the end of a game, but they could never stop him consistently in the fourth quarter, where he often played his best basketball (TS% requires a minimum of 50 FGA in playoff fourth quarters).

https://defpen.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Screen-Shot-2017-06-03-at-3.01.00-PM.png


Kobe Bryant led the league in points per fourth quarter in the 2002, 2003, and 2008 playoffs. For all of his critics who say he would shot chuck in the late stages of the game and play “hero ball,” they were simply incorrect. Granted, Kobe was a high usage isolation player and at times, it was effective. Howeer, he was leading the league in TS% in 2001 and 2002, was second in 2008, and was fifth in 2003. But fourth quarter stats can be misleading, right? Who knows if he was just putting up numbers in the fourth when the game was already decided? When using the NBA’s definition of clutch, the last five minutes of the fourth quarter or overtime, when the score is within five points, we find an interesting result. All stats are per 36 minutes, requiring at least 10 minutes played in clutch situations, and TS% requires a minimum of 15 FGA in clutch situations

https://defpen.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Screen-Shot-2017-06-03-at-3.01.08-PM.png

Those 3-Peat numbers are insane, especially in the 2001 run, where he' top 5 in points per minute and #1 with a ridiculous 62.7%TS in the last 5 minutes down/up 5, the 2000 Playoffs clutch number is otherwordly as well.

I wish I had a good graphic on his assist numbers in crunch time, but they were really good in Playofs/Finals.


"Clutch" is 2 minutes left with margin of 3 in playoffs,

I will be only talking about Lebron and Kobe, considering these two were heads and shoulders beyond everyone else for their efficiency and volume.

Playoffs:

Lebron

He is 40/106 in clutch situation

His free throw shooting is 49/67

True Shooting is, 49.8%

Assist per 36: 4.2 assists

Turnovers per 36: 4.2 turnovers

Kobe

He is 40/96 in clutch situations.

His free throw shooting is 67/79

His true shooting is 58 %

Assists per 36: 4.3 assists

Turnovers per 36: 1.7 turnovers

Finals: Last 2 minutes, margin of 3.

Lebron

He is 4/23 in clutch situations

His free throw shooting is 10/14

His true shooting is 31%

Assists per 36: 3.7 assists

TO per 36: 3.7 TO

Kobe

He is 10/20 in clutch situations

His free throw shooting is 4/5

His true shooting is 56.4%

Assists per 36: 7.5 assists

TO per 36: 1.5 TO

Finals: Last 5 minutes, margin of 5.

Lebron

17/62 in clutch situations in the finals.

32% EFG

43% TS.

Assists per 36: 4.26

TO per 36: 3.1

Kobe

28/63 in clutch situations in the finals.

46% EFG

53% TS.

Assists per 36: 3.6

TO per 36: 1.08

[nikosvault]

3 finals clutch video reviews for Kobe, MJ and Lebron.

Clutch criteria:

1. Less than 5 min. to go in the game (plus potential OT)

2. Game within +/- 8 points


Michael Jordan:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGZtzyEEECM

Total FG = 47-107 (44 fg%)

Total 2-PT FG = 46-97 (47 fg%)

Total 3-PT FG = 1-10 (10 fg%)

1991 = 5-12
1992 = 7-16
1993 = 15-33
1996 = 0-1
1997 = 10-21
1998 = 10-24

Less than 1 min go go = 11-26 (42 fg%)

Less than 24 sec. to go = 4-10 (40 fg%)

Less than 10 sec to go = 3-7 (43 fg%)

Kobe Bryant:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfwHrAt5DqM

Total FG = 33-82 (40 fg%)

Total 2-PT FG = 30-59 (51 fg%)

Total 3-PT FG = 3-23 (13 fg%)

2000 = 6-10
2001 = 4-9
2002 = 3-5
2004 = 5-12
2008 = 4-9
2009 = 7-20
2010 = 4-17

Less than 1 min go go = 9-26 (35 fg%)

Less than 24 sec. to go = 5-11 (45 fg%)

Less than 10 sec to go = 3-7 (43 fg%)


Lebron James:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgtP1MZ8oWo

Total FG = 31-91 (34 fg%)

Total 2-PT FG = 22-59 (37 fg%)

Total 3-PT FG = 9-32 (28 fg%)

2007 = 4-12
2011 = 2-11
2012 = 5-11
2013 = 7-15
2014 = 1-2
2015 = 5-23
2016 = 1-5
2017 = 1-3
2018 = 6-9

Less than 1 min go go = 9-25 (36 fg%)

Less than 24 sec. to go = 3-13 (23 fg%) 1-10 since 2007

Less than 10 sec to go = 2-7 (29 fg%) 0-5 since 2007

[nikosvault]

Lebron James:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgtP1MZ8oWo

Total FG = 31-91 (34 fg%)

Total 2-PT FG = 22-59 (37 fg%)

Total 3-PT FG = 9-32 (28 fg%)

2007 = 4-12
2011 = 2-11
2012 = 5-11
2013 = 7-15
2014 = 1-2
2015 = 5-23
2016 = 1-5
2017 = 1-3
2018 = 6-9

Less than 1 min go go = 9-25 (36 fg%)

Less than 24 sec. to go = 3-13 (23 fg%) 1-10 since 2007

Less than 10 sec to go = 2-7 (29 fg%) 0-5 since 2007

2017 should be 0-3.

[3ball]

3 finals clutch video reviews for Kobe, MJ and Lebron.

Clutch criteria:

1. Less than 5 min. to go in the game (plus potential OT)

2. Game within +/- 8 points


Michael Jordan:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGZtzyEEECM

Total FG = 47-107 (44 fg%)

Total 2-PT FG = 46-97 (47 fg%)

Total 3-PT FG = 1-10 (10 fg%)

1991 = 5-12
1992 = 7-16
1993 = 15-33
1996 = 0-1
1997 = 10-21
1998 = 10-24

Less than 1 min go go = 11-26 (42 fg%)

Less than 24 sec. to go = 4-10 (40 fg%)

Less than 10 sec to go = 3-7 (43 fg%)

Kobe Bryant:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfwHrAt5DqM

Total FG = 33-82 (40 fg%)

Total 2-PT FG = 30-59 (51 fg%)

Total 3-PT FG = 3-23 (13 fg%)

2000 = 6-10
2001 = 4-9
2002 = 3-5
2004 = 5-12
2008 = 4-9
2009 = 7-20
2010 = 4-17

Less than 1 min go go = 9-26 (35 fg%)

Less than 24 sec. to go = 5-11 (45 fg%)

Less than 10 sec to go = 3-7 (43 fg%)


Lebron James:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgtP1MZ8oWo

Total FG = 31-91 (34 fg%)

Total 2-PT FG = 22-59 (37 fg%)

Total 3-PT FG = 9-32 (28 fg%)

2007 = 4-12
2011 = 2-11
2012 = 5-11
2013 = 7-15
2014 = 1-2
2015 = 5-23
2016 = 1-5
2017 = 1-3
2018 = 6-9

Less than 1 min go go = 9-25 (36 fg%)

Less than 24 sec. to go = 3-13 (23 fg%) 1-10 since 2007

Less than 10 sec to go = 2-7 (29 fg%) 0-5 since 2007
Notice how MJ has less Finals appearances than Kobe or Lebron, but his total clutch attempts is 30% higher than both.. he had the goat clutch load and accuracy

[Rysio]

Dirk had the clutchest championship run of all time.