Anyone on this board truly into fitness that can give dietary/workout advice?

[Shogon]

I've never had abs in my entire life... even when I was 190 lbs(6'8") with pretty damn good cardio there was nothing but flab. Skinnyfat, as they say. Right now I'm 220. It's something I'd like to make happen before I die.

I've been hitting the weights for a while now but it's pretty clear my diet is the biggest problem.

There's just so much information/misinformation/conflicting information that it's totally overwhelming and it's just like... like what the ****?

Basically... what EXACTLY do I need to eat, and what exercises do I need to do...

Do I just need to go pay a nutritionist or something? This is not a topic that I'm particularly fond of trying to wade through the bullshit with, to be perfectly blunt.

[Smoke117]

6'8", 190...Jesus christ. :roll: :roll: The real life Gumby.

[FultzNationRISE]

I've never had abs in my entire life... even when I was 190 lbs(6'8") with pretty damn good cardio there was nothing but flab. Skinnyfat, as they say. Right now I'm 220. It's something I'd like to make happen before I die.

I've been hitting the weights for a while now but it's pretty clear my diet is the biggest problem.

There's just so much information/misinformation/conflicting information that it's totally overwhelming and it's just like... like what the ****?

Basically... what EXACTLY do I need to eat, and what exercises do I need to do...

Do I just need to go pay a nutritionist or something? This is not a topic that I'm particularly fond of trying to wade through the bullshit with, to be perfectly blunt.


There is no exact. There are multiple kinds of foods and exercises that are healthy.

And if you're doing everything sensibly already and you aren't seeing a sixpack, it may just not be in your genes to have a prominent six pack. You'd likely have to reach unhealthy levels of skinny to achieve it.


Basically what I'm saying is, will you buy me tickets to the next Mavs-Lakers game?

[Shogon]

There is no exact. There are multiple kinds of foods and exercises that are healthy.

And if you're doing everything sensibly already and you aren't seeing a sixpack, it may just not be in your genes to have a prominent six pack. You'd likely have to reach unhealthy levels of skinny to achieve it.


Basically what I'm saying is, will you buy me tickets to the next Mavs-Lakers game?

Prove to me within the next 15 minutes that you live in Los Angeles and Santa may bring you a Christmas gift.

[egokiller]

Take in 2200 calories a day of which 40% is protein, 40% carbs with low glycemic index (brown rice, oatmeal, sweat potatoes only) and 20% fats.

Break it into 6 meals a day, every 3 hours. Drink a gal of water a day. No more than 40g of sugar (make it be from fruit) and 1900mg of sodium. No bread.

1 cheat meal a week

This will put you at a caloric deficit of around 0, so calories from physical activity puts you at a caloric deficit and you

[highwhey]

OP, google 'skinny fat', you'll find good advice to grow.

you've not browsed bodybuilding forum i imagine, it is as toxic as it is a library of nutrition and fitness knowledge, you just got to know how to navigate it.

[FultzNationRISE]

Prove to me within the next 15 minutes that you live in Los Angeles and Santa may bring you a Christmas gift.


I live in Austin home skillet.

I have a buddy who lives in Dallas and it'd be awesome to visit him and see the Mavs play vs LeHung and the gang.

I can represent Insidehoops with a hilarious sign. :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[Smoke117]

Here is some advice OP: You have told us you spend your entire existence from waking to sleep at a computer...WELL STOP DOING THAT. Go for an hour walk, ride an exercise bike, do anything that involves physical activity besides typing your fingers on a keyboard and stop stuffing your face with twinkies? it's not rocket science. Exert more calories than you take in. End of discussion. And if you can't exert enough then stop eating. Your fat will eat the rest for a long time if you are as overweight as I believe you are.

[Rolando]

I'm a skinny fat too.

This is how you do it:

One Meal A Day (OMAD) look it up. Your strategy should be to put off eating as long as you can each morning. Wait at least until noon before any food. Make yourself one really good meal....as much as you want. After that, try and shut it down for the rest of the day. If you have to, just have something really minimal to eat in the evening.

I recommend taking a break from intense workouts while doing this. The workouts will only make you hungrier and it will be difficult to stick to one meal. Maybe after the first week introduce a workout in. But you will have to eat to support it.

Weigh yourself every morning.

Next step: After 2 or 3 weeks, you should have lost a significant amount of weight and you should have an idea of what muscles are showing on your belly. You may STILL have no six-pack. You will have to build the muscles as well. Do inclined crunches....With holding weight to your chest. Leg raises. Planks.....All of it. High reps without weights too. You have to pump those abs up.

Research intermittant fasting and OMAD.

[Celtics 1825]

At your height you gotta make sure to eat hella calories if you wanna put on muscle, and those calories can't be coming from junk food. Make sure you're getting your macros (especially protein). Lean meats, brown rice, fruits, vegetables, etc.

[ILLsmak]

you prol need to realize what a six pack actually looks like.

https://i.imgur.com/Zl4KXSA.jpg both those dudes have monster abs. Lighting, photoshop, OIL whatever haha.

When I was 'an athlete' as a teen, I didn't have a six pack, more like a four pack w/ baby fat over it. I've never had like 'a six pack' like dudes look like in their instagram posts, but even at my age, sick and somewhat out of shape, I still have remnants of one. I'm def like 10 pounds overweight too atm.

I'd recommend swimming, really long strokes that stretch out your abs, bc about ****ing your shoulders tho by going too hard ( i did) and use one of those exercise balls to do sit ups. That's how I got abs. I didn't eat anything special.

I didn't really go for it. It was just kinda like oh cool.

-Smak

[jstern]

I would trade my six pack to be 6'8".

[ILLsmak]

I would trade my six pack to be 6'8".


haha, yknow I don't think I'd really enjoy playing in the NBA. When I was a kid, I was like yea I wish I was like 6'8 then I could probably make the nba (dreams, but who knows, I found a way to do a bunch of other wild shit.)

Now, I dunno... I'd like to be like 6'3 or 4 tho. Tall but not like tall to the point where it starts affecting your health and impacting like where you can sleep, what kinda car you can drive etc. Altho re: health, I dunno if I believe all of that height related health/longevity garbage or not.

-Smak

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Start with 1mL of T twice a week

After a couple of weeks start taking around a third of a tablet of aromasin after each dose of T

Run for 12 to 16 weeks

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Eat a lot and work out every day. Eat clean though. Take it easy and don

[dude77]

I'm a skinny fat too.

This is how you do it:

One Meal A Day (OMAD) look it up. Your strategy should be to put off eating as long as you can each morning. Wait at least until noon before any food. Make yourself one really good meal....as much as you want. After that, try and shut it down for the rest of the day. If you have to, just have something really minimal to eat in the evening.

I recommend taking a break from intense workouts while doing this. The workouts will only make you hungrier and it will be difficult to stick to one meal. Maybe after the first week introduce a workout in. But you will have to eat to support it.

Weigh yourself every morning.

Next step: After 2 or 3 weeks, you should have lost a significant amount of weight and you should have an idea of what muscles are showing on your belly. You may STILL have no six-pack. You will have to build the muscles as well. Do inclined crunches....With holding weight to your chest. Leg raises. Planks.....All of it. High reps without weights too. You have to pump those abs up.

Research intermittant fasting and OMAD.

so damn true .. after a tough weight lifting workout, sometimes I tell myself 'ok I'll only eat a small meal to recover and not eat the rest of the day to do a little fast' .. never works lol .. your body's like 'fk you, you put me through this shit feed my ass'

[scuzzy]

ISH fitness advise? :lol


You're nearing 40 so might as well just hop on gear and a fitness forum for big boy advice.


Get on some RX grade that a doc prescribes, it's easy to drop your test levels before getting blood work done. Unlimited lifetime supply even w Obamacare

Picking things up and putting them down is the easy part. Having a clean diet is the torture and far most important for results. IMO 30% fitness - 70% diet. Calories in/out.


GL

[Bosnian Sajo]

J$ is the person to talk to from this board, he can give you wonderful fitness advice.

[dude77]

Picking things up and putting them down is the easy part. Having a clean diet is the torture and far most important for results. IMO 30% fitness - 70% diet. Calories in/out.




the truth

[stalkerforlife]

You're too handsome to worry about abs.

But believe it or not, I once had amazing abs. I was insecure because I felt too small and made the mistake of pumping major iron, but thin is better than being a fatty because I stopped working out and now I have manboobs.

[sammichoffate]

You need to bulk hard OP, you sound like a fking twig. https://thefitness.wiki/routines/strength-training-muscle-building/

Pick a heavy compound movement program, stick with it for at least 3 months.
Squat/Deadlift/Bench are the holy trinity, pullups+rows are awesome for upper back. For abs do weighted planks/hanging leg raises/standing cable crunches. The key is heavy weight and progression each week so your muscles will go through hypertrophy.

Google a calorie calculator, figure out your tdee, then add 500-1000 to it for each week. For the love of god, measure what you're eating. It doesn't matter what you eat, just measure it. You want at least 0.8g/lb of your goal bodyweight for protein. So 250lbs would be 200g protein a day for example.

Cut once you're happy with your muscle gains, about 500-1000 a week. Cardio can accelerate this process by burning more calories.

It's not that fking complicated.

[Rolando]

ISH fitness advise?

Picking things up and putting them down is the easy part. Having a clean diet is the torture and far most important for results. IMO 30% fitness - 70% diet. Calories in/out.

GL

Yep. Exactly.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Read through this Shogon

https://www.t-nation.com/workouts/the-ultimate-program-for-body-comp-improvement

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Get 23 gauge needles, 1.5 inch

Start with 1mL of T twice a week

After a couple of weeks start taking around a third of a tablet of aromasin after each dose of T

Run for 12 to 16 weeks

2 to 3 weeks after last T dose start taking one tamoexifen a daily for 2 to 4 weeks

Eat a lot and work out every day. Eat clean though. Take it easy and don

[ArbitraryWater]

me, but cant give any advice

[Norcaliblunt]

This stuff cracks me up. The op feels the need to share his opinion all the time on politics and how the world should be, but he can’t even figure out what his bitch ass should be eating or how he should be exercising. Lol.

[DaHeezy]

Hateraid was the resident expert. He runs a supplement company. I'm surprised he didn't chime in.

[CelticBaller]

If you want to get bigger it

[sammichoffate]

[QUOTE=CelticBaller]If you want to get bigger it

[diamenz]

You need to bulk hard OP, you sound like a fking twig. https://thefitness.wiki/routines/strength-training-muscle-building/

Pick a heavy compound movement program, stick with it for at least 3 months.
Squat/Deadlift/Bench are the holy trinity, pullups+rows are awesome for upper back. For abs do weighted planks/hanging leg raises/standing cable crunches. The key is heavy weight and progression each week so your muscles will go through hypertrophy.

Google a calorie calculator, figure out your tdee, then add 500-1000 to it for each week. For the love of god, measure what you're eating. It doesn't matter what you eat, just measure it. You want at least 0.8g/lb of your goal bodyweight for protein. So 250lbs would be 200g protein a day for example.

Cut once you're happy with your muscle gains, about 500-1000 a week. Cardio can accelerate this process by burning more calories.

It's not that fking complicated.

good advice. compound lifts, and continue adding weight. do variations of lifts like the decline or incline bench press as opposed to just the regular one. keep those muscles guessing. you'll get nowhere fast doing bicep curls and tricep kickbacks. eat, eat, eat. there's really no nedd for hard science on eating. just eat more than u usually do. and don't forget to rest...

[warriorfan]

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Make it happen brother, no excuses

[PullupJay]

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[tontoz]

I have been going to the gym for decades but had a bad diet. In the fall a few years ago my weight got up to 220 so i finally had to do something about my diet.

First thing is to cut down on worthless carbs. If you look at what you eat every day you might be surprised how many carbs you are eating. Typical snack foods, bread, pasta, sweet .... etc you need to cut down but it is hard to eliminate them completely.

An old friend of mine lost 60 pounds solely through diet. He used to order extra pickles when he went out to eat which i thought was odd. However pickles taste good and have basically no calories or carbs.

Maybe twice a week i would go maybe 8 hours without eating anything. It throws off your internal clock so you won't get as hungry at meal times

My old breakfast was oatmeal and a granola bar. Sounds ok right? 90 carbs lol. Now i have a hard boiled egg and protein bar (BSN syntha 6 protein crisp. They actually taste good, not hard to chew at all with low sugar/carbs.) For lunch i will eat lunchmeat without the bread, pickles and yogurt. Dinners are typically chicken or fish, rice and veggies.

It took me a few months to go from 220 to 190.

For cardio the last few years i have been using a Cybex Arc trainer. It is similar to an eliptical but far more effective. Very high calorie burn and no impact. Most gyms have a handful of them but you have to look. They don't stand out from the other machines.

Dam just reread the original post. You are 6'8? Wow 220 isnt bad then lol. I am 6'2.

[CelticBaller]

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it somehow autocorrect whey in to weight

but yeah vegan proteins don't have estrogen in them. Estrogen causes manboobs in some men

[sammichoffate]

it somehow autocorrect whey in to weight

but yeah vegan proteins don't have estrogen in them. Estrogen causes manboobs in some menAre you talking about soy protein? Whey doesn't usually have much soy, if any, as an ingredient. Soy isn't inherently bad either unless that's all you eat for an entire week.

[eliteballer]

I have been going to the gym for decades but had a bad diet. In the fall a few years ago my weight got up to 220 so i finally had to do something about my diet.

First thing is to cut down on worthless carbs. If you look at what you eat every day you might be surprised how many carbs you are eating. Typical snack foods, bread, pasta, sweet .... etc you need to cut down but it is hard to eliminate them completely.

An old friend of mine lost 60 pounds solely through diet. He used to order extra pickles when he went out to eat which i thought was odd. However pickles taste good and have basically no calories or carbs.

Maybe twice a week i would go maybe 8 hours without eating anything. It throws off your internal clock so you won't get as hungry at meal times

My old breakfast was oatmeal and a granola bar. Sounds ok right? 90 carbs lol. Now i have a hard boiled egg and protein bar (BSN syntha 6 protein crisp. They actually taste good, not hard to chew at all with low sugar/carbs.) For lunch i will eat lunchmeat without the bread, pickles and yogurt. Dinners are typically chicken or fish, rice and veggies.

It took me a few months to go from 220 to 190.

For cardio the last few years i have been using a Cybex Arc trainer. It is similar to an eliptical but far more effective. Very high calorie burn and no impact. Most gyms have a handful of them but you have to look. They don't stand out from the other machines.

Dam just reread the original post. You are 6'8? Wow 220 isnt bad then lol. I am 6'2.

Lunchmeat is terrible for you.

[eliteballer]

I've never had abs in my entire life... even when I was 190 lbs(6'8") with pretty damn good cardio there was nothing but flab. Skinnyfat, as they say. Right now I'm 220. It's something I'd like to make happen before I die.

I've been hitting the weights for a while now but it's pretty clear my diet is the biggest problem.

There's just so much information/misinformation/conflicting information that it's totally overwhelming and it's just like... like what the ****?

Basically... what EXACTLY do I need to eat, and what exercises do I need to do...

Do I just need to go pay a nutritionist or something? This is not a topic that I'm particularly fond of trying to wade through the bullshit with, to be perfectly blunt.

Why don't you lay out your diet.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Drink 3 liters of water daily.

Incorporate intermittent fasting. 16/8 is ideal. As you progress try 17/7, 18/6, 19/5, 20/4 etc. I did most of my fasting when sleeping ie. skipped breakfast. If you can't do this everyday don't worry about it. It helps A LOT but your diet overall is most important.

Eat 0.8-1 gram of protein per body weight. Lean meat/protein preferably. Drink A LOT of water to give your kidney's a rest.

Limit shitty carbs. AKA refined garbage. Eat lots of vegetables. Dark greens preferably, but vegetables that are generally high in fiber. Your bowels will thank you.

Get your healthy fats in. Nuts. Eggs. Cheese. Avocados. Salmon (also high in Omega 3's which are awesome for your heart and brain).

Incorporate all of that and pickup some weights. Compound lifts, a weight-training program. Whatever. Do something and stick with it. When your body is used to the movement. And your workouts feel "easy"? Switch it up. Add some cardio in there too. Try to get at least 3 hours of exercise a week for optimal results. I'm talking mental and physical here. If you're sedentary and this is the ONLY exercise you're going to get? I'd also recommend using a TDEE calculator (https://tdeecalculator.net/result.php?s=imperial&g=male&age=35&lbs=220&in=80&act=1.55&f=1). Type your height, weight and the amount of hours you plan to workout weekly. It'll output your daily calorie intake. And macros too (proteins/fats/carbs).

A few years back, I lost over 20 kilos doing this. And have kept it off since. I also take a multi vitamin. Your micronutrients are vital for your health. Don't worry about cheat meals btw. You can have them frequently long as your tracking your progress...and can fit them in.

Have at it.

[jstern]

haha, yknow I don't think I'd really enjoy playing in the NBA. When I was a kid, I was like yea I wish I was like 6'8 then I could probably make the nba (dreams, but who knows, I found a way to do a bunch of other wild shit.)

Now, I dunno... I'd like to be like 6'3 or 4 tho. Tall but not like tall to the point where it starts affecting your health and impacting like where you can sleep, what kinda car you can drive etc. Altho re: health, I dunno if I believe all of that height related health/longevity garbage or not.

-Smak

I think I'm willing to trade 20 years off my life to be 6'8". But yeah, right now, 6'4" sounds like a good height as an adult.

[diamenz]

some of u guys r overthinking this. op is just jumping into the game - he doesn't need rocket science to get newbie gainz. just keep adding weight to your squats, deads, bench and pulls and eat more than ur usually daily intake. especially protein. work hard, but take proper time to rest.

ez.

i should say tho, once u develop a routine, stick to it. otherwise you're just wasting your time.

[Rooster]

You need to bulk hard OP, you sound like a fking twig. https://thefitness.wiki/routines/strength-training-muscle-building/

Pick a heavy compound movement program, stick with it for at least 3 months.
Squat/Deadlift/Bench are the holy trinity, pullups+rows are awesome for upper back. For abs do weighted planks/hanging leg raises/standing cable crunches. The key is heavy weight and progression each week so your muscles will go through hypertrophy.

Google a calorie calculator, figure out your tdee, then add 500-1000 to it for each week. For the love of god, measure what you're eating. It doesn't matter what you eat, just measure it. You want at least 0.8g/lb of your goal bodyweight for protein. So 250lbs would be 200g protein a day for example.

Cut once you're happy with your muscle gains, about 500-1000 a week. Cardio can accelerate this process by burning more calories.

It's not that fking complicated.

Good advice except adding 200-300 calories a day is the optimal for muscle gains. He

[eliteballer]

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[red1]

if you're truly serious OP then get into the habit of baking chicken in volume, can be anything you like thighs breasts drumsticks, whatever.

and then add avocados spinach and olive oil into your diet replacing bread and processed foods with those foods.


then create a full body routine, chest and back one day, legs one day, shoulders, and then core/anything you missed. so that's 4 workouts, try to hit the gym 3-4 times a week.


you'll see results in no time.

[PullupJay]

Diet: Lean protein,Good fats,Complex carbs,Greens.

Work out: Progressive overload add a rep,weightor set the next work out session to that exerisize ,Learn about different muscle fibers,time under tension,Periodization
, learn the concepts and utylize

Cut out junk food

learn about anobolic vs catabolic

set goals



Do some cardio

Drink water . make sure ur hydrated properly before a workout

Deload week every 8th week

information
knowledge
experience
wisdom

try different workout routines. there is no right or wrong.
right or wrong is for proper form. dont stress your cns too much. dont train till failure. dont neglect legs

stick with compound movements for the fundemental movements
isolation is ok too but each workout should have atleast 2 compound movement exercises for 4 sets each.

take what i say with a grain of salt

[egokiller]

OP no where to be found.

He

[PullupJay]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJHEzycW4AEExVO.jpg
a rare pic of myself and OP :)

[Manny98]

Cut down on added sugars

Fast at least 16 hours a day, your body will thank you for it

Limit smoking and alcohol consumption to the bare minimum

If you don't like vegetables but some greens powder and mix it with Juice

[Chick Stern]

Cut down on added sugars

Fast at least 16 hours a day, your body will thank you for it

Limit smoking and alcohol consumption to the bare minimum

If you don't like vegetables but some greens powder and mix it with Juice

Fasting has been shown to be mostly myth based.
The main benefit is that you are eating less.

Powders are processed. Eat real fruits and vegetables.

[kosmeron]

I don't think China will accept this responsibility. But today we can have our say on our own and refuse from Chinese-made goods. China's budget is constantly replenished with our money

[EagleFang]

Eat wieners.

[EagleFang]

There is zero calories in wiener.

I think you actually burn calories with all the bobbing.

I don't know how many calories are in the goo, but you don't have to swallow unless you want the extra protein.

[Manny98]

Fasting has been shown to be mostly myth based.
The main benefit is that you are eating less.

Powders are processed. Eat real fruits and vegetables.

It's not myth based, there has been hundreds of studies that have proven that fasting has many benefits, plus from my own personal experience internment fasting I have felt first hand the benefits that fasting offers

Your body needs time to digest and process the food, it can't do that if you're following the standard American 3 meals a day plus snacks in between

[macmac]

So the Japanese scientist that won the Nobel prize on autophagy is a myth?

[FultzNationRISE]

There is zero calories in wiener.

I think you actually burn calories with all the bobbing.

I don't know how many calories are in the goo, but you don't have to swallow unless you want the extra protein.


Gonna give this a try. Thanks.

[hateraid]

Lol, I still get a kick out of all the "eat only real foods" comments like people are experts on diet and nutrition. Everyone is an internet dietician

[tontoz]

Lol, I still get a kick out of all the "eat only real foods" comments like people are experts on diet and nutrition. Everyone is an internet dietician

Yeah the problem with "real" foods is that many of them go bad quickly.

Moderation and sustainability are the key issues for me. Just try to reduce worthless carbs. When i decided i needed to lose weight and started counting carbs i was surprised what i found.

I was eating oatmeal and a granola bar for breakfast which doesn't sound bad. However when i added it up it was over 90 grams of carbs lol. Now i eat a hard boiled egg and a protein bar which is 25 grams of carbs.

I eat raisins a lot because they are natural and i don't have to worry about them spoiling. Also pickles are good for an occasional craving because they have no carbs, just a lot of salt. Low fat yogurt is good too. Almonds are good for you and they don't have much taste so i won't overeat lol.

I think it is the in between meal snacks that cause problems.

I was at 220 a few years ago down to my college weight of 185 now.

[Jasper]

I've never had abs in my entire life... even when I was 190 lbs(6'8") with pretty damn good cardio there was nothing but flab. Skinnyfat, as they say. Right now I'm 220. It's something I'd like to make happen before I die.

I've been hitting the weights for a while now but it's pretty clear my diet is the biggest problem.

There's just so much information/misinformation/conflicting information that it's totally overwhelming and it's just like... like what the ****?

Basically... what EXACTLY do I need to eat, and what exercises do I need to do...

Do I just need to go pay a nutritionist or something? This is not a topic that I'm particularly fond of trying to wade through the bullshit with, to be perfectly blunt.

Shogun - hows it going now ???

[Manny98]

Going to start my OMAD journey from tomorrow

Current height/weight 6ft 195 pounds

Goal weight 150 pounds, I know that's a pretty low weight for my height but the plan is to get skinny lose all the fat and then start bulking up at the gym

Going to use this thread to kinda record my progress

[Bronbron23]

Going to start my OMAD journey from tomorrow

Current height/weight 6ft 195 pounds

Goal weight 150 pounds, I know that's a pretty low weight for my height but the plan is to get skinny lose all the fat and then start bulking up at the gym

Going to use this thread to kinda record my progress

You must already have very little muscle if your initial goal is 150. I'd aim for 165 at the lowest. 165-180 is still very lean for 6 feet especially if you already have some muscle.

[TheCorporation]

You must already have very little muscle if your initial goal is 150. I'd aim for 165 at the lowest. 165-180 is still very lean for 6 feet especially if you already have some muscle.

+1

If you're lifting (which you should) then 150 is very lean @ 6 feet

For example: Connor McGregor is 5'8, 155 ish

[Patrick Chewing]

Going to start my OMAD journey from tomorrow

Current height/weight 6ft 195 pounds

Goal weight 150 pounds, I know that's a pretty low weight for my height but the plan is to get skinny lose all the fat and then start bulking up at the gym

Going to use this thread to kinda record my progress

At 150lbs you won't be able to lift the weights. You can technically bulk up now and shed the pounds in the process. Going down 45 pounds will give you no energy and no strength and it will be a higher hill to climb to get back up to let's say 185 which should have you lean and shredded. Just my two cents from my days of weight training.

[Manny98]

At 150lbs you won't be able to lift the weights. You can technically bulk up now and shed the pounds in the process. Going down 45 pounds will give you no energy and no strength and it will be a higher hill to climb to get back up to let's say 185 which should have you lean and shredded. Just my two cents from my days of weight training.
Appreciate the advice :cheers:

If 150 is too low as BronBron said I'd try and get down to around 165 and go from there

Probably start taking gym seriously from next week when I get back to University

Right now I am in a "skinny fat" phase so my current focus is cutting down on body fat whilst maintaining my muscle mass

[TheCorporation]

Appreciate the advice :cheers:

If 150 is too low as BronBron said I'd try and get down to around 165 and go from there

Probably start taking gym seriously from next week when I get back to University

Right now I am in a "skinny fat" phase so my current focus is cutting down on body fat whilst maintaining my muscle mass

You'll lean out by lifting and eating clean 100% and you won't even need to focus on "losing weight" if you're lifting heavy like 5/3/1 program or a Starting Strength program (depending on where you are with compound and accessory lifts).

[Bronbron23]

At 150lbs you won't be able to lift the weights. You can technically bulk up now and shed the pounds in the process. Going down 45 pounds will give you no energy and no strength and it will be a higher hill to climb to get back up to let's say 185 which should have you lean and shredded. Just my two cents from my days of weight training.

Yeah this is usually how most people go about it. Bodybuilders especially. If op is new to training he could do both. It's not hard to build muscle and burn fat when your young and a newbie. It's much harder to do after you've been consistently training for awhile. The only way to burn fat and build muscle at the same time is if you take juice.

[Patrick Chewing]

The only way to burn fat and build muscle at the same time is if you take juice.

You ain't lying bro. I never juiced, but I took clenbuterol. I started getting shredded and massively strong in the process. Veins were popping too. Felt good, but that shit wasn't cheap so I gave it up.

[Bronbron23]

You ain't lying bro. I never juiced, but I took clenbuterol. I started getting shredded and massively strong in the process. Veins were popping too. Felt good, but that shit wasn't cheap so I gave it up.

Yeah i've thought about it a thousand times but i've never done it. I've trained with guys on gear and the results are insane. Guys who i'm way stronger and bigger than caught me in 3 or 4 months. It's crazy

[Axe]

Yeah i've thought about it a thousand times but i've never done it. I've trained with guys on gear and the results are insane. Guys who i'm way stronger and bigger than caught me in 3 or 4 months. It's crazy
Whatever happened to this guy? :ohwell:

[jstern]

Ask Axe, he has a gym membership.

I'm sure he has a six pack under the 600 layers of fat around his stomach.

[Axe]

If anybody wants to have lecture on being high on adderalls, just ask the loser above me.

[Patrick Chewing]

If anybody wants to have lecture on being high on adderalls, just ask the loser above me.

How fat are you? Seriously. Walk every day man. Do pushups.

[Axe]

How fat are you? Seriously. Walk every day man. Do pushups.
Yep, i shall exercise everyday so i can avoid being bedridden like you. Thanks. ;)