Harden > Leonard

[StrongLurk]

Harden was better all year last year as well and performed better against the Warriors than Kawhi.

Harden is actually pretty easily the best offensive force in the league. His production is insane.

[Marchesk]

What's his PPG look like now? I wonder if 3Ball is going to have to do a takedown of Harden if he eclipses Jordan's best scoring season.

[RealSkipBayless]

Harden lit that boy the **** up. Bev then took the assignment and fouled out. bitchboy needs more rest I guess..

:djparty
:yaohappy: :hammertime:

[qrich]

And needed the refs to bail him out from Bev clamping his ass :roll:

[dazzer87]

right on time.......This mofo.... :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Bronbron23]

Harden was better all year last year as well and performed better against the Warriors than Kawhi.

Harden is actually pretty easily the best offensive force in the league. His production is insane.
In the regular season maybe. Playoffs it's kawhi

[Marchesk]

47 points on the Clippers vaunted defense :oldlol:

[StrongLurk]

What's his PPG look like now? I wonder if 3Ball is going to have to do a takedown of Harden if he eclipses Jordan's best scoring season.

Harden last year scored the most points all time per 100 possessions, surpassing MJ's highest scoring year.

[Bronbron23]

What's his PPG look like now? I wonder if 3Ball is going to have to do a takedown of Harden if he eclipses Jordan's best scoring season.
Not sure what will it look like in the playoffs :facepalm

[StrongLurk]

In the regular season maybe. Playoffs it's kawhi

You didn't watch last year in the playoffs then.

Harden was better...not by a ton of course...but he was better.

[Im so nba'd out]

Not gonna lie after just watching Kawhi play vs Harden tonight, Jordan fell down my rankings a couple spots.

[Marchesk]

Not gonna lie after just watching Kawhi play vs Harden tonight, Jordan fell down my rankings a couple spots.

I don't know why, but that cracked me up. Never would have expected to read that sentence a couple years ago.

[Bronbron23]

You didn't watch last year in the playoffs then.

Harden was better...not by a ton of course...but he was better.
What? Are you joking? Harden scored 1 more point a game but he was way less efficient. Defensively (which is half the game) kawhi was a hundred times better. Kawhi also hit one of the biggest most clutch shots in playoff history and won a championship.

Your the one the must not of watched.

[Marchesk]

What? Are you joking? Harden scored 1 more point a game but he was way less efficient. Defensively (which is half the game) kawhi was a hundred times better. Kawhi also hit one of the biggest most clutch shots in playoff history and won a championship.

Your the one the must not of watched.

That's true, but the Warriors also had Durant scoring 33 ppg against the Rockets.

[CodeBreaker]

Clippers are pretenders. Rockets are contenders

[Bronbron23]

That's true, but the Warriors also had Durant scoring 33 ppg against the Rockets.
True but what was the excuse in 2016 when he did the same thing against the warriors with kd and no curry for most of the series?

[Smook A.]

And needed the refs to bail him out from Bev clamping his ass :roll:
Not sure if you watched the game or not, but Harden made some really clutch, deep threes down the stretch to put the game away. He was really efficient tonight too. Give him some well-deserved credit. Don't hate just cause your team lost

[Duncan21formvp]

Is Harden the defending champion?

[Marchesk]

Is Harden the defending champion?

The Raptors are.

[k0kakw0rld]

Is Harden the defending champion?
The Dinosaurs are.

[stalkerforlife]

Bransvestites.

I really enjoy when they say things like this as it exposes them further.

Keep it coming.

[Smoke117]

Bransvestites.

I really enjoy when they say things like this as it exposes them further.

Keep it coming.

Being a half drooling retard you must enjoy a lot of things we can't understand.:rolleyes:

[Bigsmoke]

Harden was better all year last year as well and performed better against the Warriors than Kawhi.

Harden is actually pretty easily the best offensive force in the league. His production is insane.

Nobody picking Harden over Kawhi in the postseason

[r0drig0lac]

imagine really believing in this shit and to think that really understand something about the game.

[Manny98]

In the regular season....

[Jingo]

Water is wet too.

[ArbitraryWater]

You didn't watch last year in the playoffs then.

Harden was better...not by a ton of course...but he was better.

sig worthy if we had sigs.

This nikka retarded

[red1]

LOL thanks for starting my day for me with a laugh

[red1]

harden is the guy who literally choked away a title for okc... and then he evolved into an even bigger choker...

[jayfan]

Perhaps the greatest meaningless-game player of our time.




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[PCCM_29]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwIKQE9T-U

Say what you want about Nick Wright but the man has some passion and the numbers to back up his arguments

Best to ever do it

[red1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwIKQE9T-U

Say what you want about Nick Wright but the man has some passion and the numbers to back up his arguments

Best to ever do it
:roll:


nick wright is a ****ing retard. never trust a scrawny-necked fanboy geek.

[StrongLurk]

Harden is scoring better than anyone ever in NBA history since last year per 100 possessions.

He also put up like 35/6/6 against the Warriors last year with KD actually playing 4 games in that series.

The people talking about Harden not playing defense are still stuck in 2016.

No one can objectively make the argument that Kawhi was better last year than Harden. All they can say is Kawhi and the Raptors beat an injured Warriors team in the finals.

I'm not dissing Kawhi or anything, he was a top 4 player last year.

[Bronbron23]

Harden is scoring better than anyone ever in NBA history since last year per 100 possessions.

He also put up like 35/6/6 against the Warriors last year with KD actually playing 4 games in that series.

The people talking about Harden not playing defense are still stuck in 2016.

No one can objectively make the argument that Kawhi was better last year than Harden. All they can say is Kawhi and the Raptors beat an injured Warriors team in the finals.

I'm not dissing Kawhi or anything, he was a top 4 player last year.
Sure they can. Its convenient that harden fans want to freak out about his regular season stats but when you give them playoff stats the just ignore them. I'll do it any way though

2019 Playoffs
Harden 31.6 on 41% fg 35% 3pt
Kawhi 30.5 on 49% fg 38% 3pt

Yes harden is a better defender than a was a few years ago but kawhi is still way better. So kawhi in the playoffs is pretty much as good offensively and way better defensively.

How's that for objectivity :facepalm

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Harden is scoring better than anyone ever in NBA history since last year per 100 possessions.

He also put up like 35/6/6 against the Warriors last year with KD actually playing 4 games in that series.

The people talking about Harden not playing defense are still stuck in 2016.

No one can objectively make the argument that Kawhi was better last year than Harden. All they can say is Kawhi and the Raptors beat an injured Warriors team in the finals.

I'm not dissing Kawhi or anything, he was a top 4 player last year.

Objectively? Kawhi had better numbers in the playoffs. And was a superior defender in every way. For all the talk Harden gets for his PPG, Kawhi was more dynamic with his scoring and came up BIG when his team needed him to. Time and again. One regular-season game in November doesn't change anything.


Sure they can. Its convenient that harden fans want to freak out about his regular season stats but when you give them playoff stats the just ignore them. I'll do it any way though

2019 Playoffs
Harden 31.6 on 41% fg 35% 3pt
Kawhi 30.5 on 49% fg 38% 3pt

Yes harden is a better defender than a was a few years ago but kawhi is still way better. So kawhi in the playoffs is pretty much as good offensively and way better defensively.

How's that for objectivity :facepalm

Spot on.

[PickernRoller]

Never ceases to amuse me how hard Brantards have attached themselves to Harden to go after Bran's perceived enemies. Whether it's Kobe, Jordan, Curry, KD and now Kawhi...

The bait works on some so... no harm, no foul. Good fun...:oldlol:

[StrongLurk]

Harden vs Warriors (KD 4 games played) 35/7/5.5/2.2/.5 on 59.4 TS%

Kawhi vs Warriors 28.5/10/4/2/1.2 on 60.6 TS%


Harden was better, although Kawhi was great as well. Kawhi has a slight defensive edge, Harden DID play solid defense all of last year (2nd in steals for the whole NBA).

If KD plays 4 games in the finals, Kawhi goes home a loser as well like Harden.

Harden was better than Kawhi in the regular season from a production standpoint as well as considering Harden played 78 games and Kawhi only 60.

I mean...we literally just saw Harden embarrass the fuc.k out of Kawhi last night too.

[Bronbron23]

Harden vs Warriors (KD 4 games played) 35/7/5.5/2.2/.5 on 59.4 TS%

Kawhi vs Warriors 28.5/10/4/2/1.2 on 60.6 TS%


Harden was better, although Kawhi was great as well. Kawhi has a slight defensive edge, Harden DID play solid defense all of last year (2nd in steals for the whole NBA).

If KD plays 4 games in the finals, Kawhi goes home a loser as well like Harden.

Harden was better than Kawhi in the regular season from a production standpoint as well as considering Harden played 78 games and Kawhi only 60.

I mean...we literally just saw Harden embarrass the fuc.k out of Kawhi last night too.
Your using one 4 game series though and a one game regular season game where yes harden was amazing and got the better of kawhi. I guess we'll see come playoff time where harden throughout his career is has been constantly inefficient and not a great defender. As for this year so far though round 1 goes to harden.

[StrongLurk]

Your using one 4 game series though and a one game regular season game where yes harden was amazing and got the better of kawhi. I guess we'll see come playoff time where harden throughout his career is has been constantly inefficient and not a great defender. As for this year so far though round 1 goes to harden.

Rockets/Raptors both went 6 games with the Warriors last year. I am not defending Harden's previous years before last year.

Harden clearly elevated his game last year and frankly should have been MVP. Chris Paul and other Rockets players missed a ton of games yet Harden carried HARD.

Harden scored more points per 100 possessions than ANYONE IN HISTORY. That's including MJ...people are underrating Harden's season last year because of his previous seasons.

I am simply saying that Harden has been better than Kawhi (not by a lot) since the beginning of last year.

I also f'ukin hate watching Harden play, I am not a fan of his...but I am still in awe of the total production numbers he managed.

[Bronbron23]

Rockets/Raptors both went 6 games with the Warriors last year. I am not defending Harden's previous years before last year.

Harden clearly elevated his game last year and frankly should have been MVP. Chris Paul and other Rockets players missed a ton of games yet Harden carried HARD.

Harden scored more points per 100 possessions than ANYONE IN HISTORY. That's including MJ...people are underrating Harden's season last year because of his previous seasons.

I am simply saying that Harden has been better than Kawhi (not by a lot) since the beginning of last year.

I also f'ukin hate watching Harden play, I am not a fan of his...but I am still in awe of the total production numbers he managed.
I'd agree if we're talking just offensively but I'm a heavy believer that defence matters almost as much as offence. Even with hardens improvement he's was behind defensively and I just don't think his slight advantage offensively is enough to make up for his large disadvantage defensively. I agree he could of been MVP though. I thought Greek deserved it to though. I don't deny that harden is sick I just don't like the mj and other greats comparisons until he shows he can consistently elevate his game come playoff time. Last year was improvement. We'll see what happens this year.

[StrongLurk]

I'd agree if we're talking just offensively but I'm a heavy believer that defence matters almost as much as offence. Even with hardens improvement he's was behind defensively and I just don't think his slight advantage offensively is enough to make up for his large disadvantage defensively. I agree he could of been MVP though. I thought Greek deserved it to though. I don't deny that harden is sick I just don't like the mj and other greats comparisons until he shows he can consistently elevate his game come playoff time. Last year was improvement. We'll see what happens this year.

Completely understandable.

[StrongLurk]

Jesus Harden :eek:

https://streamable.com/w20uo

[SouBeachTalents]

Why are we bullshitting ourselves, if your life was on the line and you had to win a title, nobody, OP included, would pick Harden over Kawhi for a playoff run. That's honestly how the who's the better player discussion should be decided; life on the line, who would you rather have on your team?

If I want to see someone drop 60 in a meaningless regular season game, give me Harden. But when the chips are down, nobody is actually choosing Harden over Kawhi :lol

[knicksman]

Why are we bullshitting ourselves, if your life was on the line and you had to win a title, nobody, OP included, would pick Harden over Kawhi for a playoff run. That's honestly how the who's the better player discussion should be decided; life on the line, who would you rather have on your team?

If I want to see someone drop 60 in a meaningless regular season game, give me Harden. But when the chips are down, nobody is actually choosing Harden over Kawhi :lol


OP is a bron stan. Hes doing everything he can to diminish kawhi coz Kawhi just embarrassed a 4 time MVP but no legit rings to show for it. And kawhi winning means kobe > lebron. And harden really is more lebron. Triple doubles but shrinks in the playoffs esp in the clutch.

[Mr Feeny]

OP is a bron stan. Hes doing everything he can to diminish kawhi coz Kawhi just embarrassed a 4 time MVP but no legit rings to show for it. And kawhi winning means kobe > lebron. And harden really is more lebron. Triple doubles but shrinks in the playoffs esp in the clutch.

I know. His shtick is obvious as well. A few of the Lebron stans have done the same thing. Triggered by the very mention of Kawhi, for some reason.

[StrongLurk]

Wooo knicksman, feeny, proller are shook. I am not a Bron stan, I am objective. Seriously, did you not read my posts. Plenty of evidence for Harden being better than Kawhi. It's not like I'm saying a guy like Derozan is better than Kawhi.

Harden has been better than Lebron too since last year.

Idk how posters think a "lebron stan" has something to gain by mentioning how good Harden has been.

[knicksman]

Wooo knicksman, feeny, proller are shook. I am not a Bron stan, I am objective. Seriously, did you not read my posts. Plenty of evidence for Harden being better than Kawhi. It's not like I'm saying a guy like Derozan is better than Kawhi.

Harden has been better than Lebron too since last year.

Idk how posters think a "lebron stan" has something to gain by mentioning how good Harden has been.

I know. You guys would rather troll than admit to being wrong. But it is what it is. Kawhi proved that kobe stans were right all along. Kobe > Bron and its time to move on. Its been settled.

[StrongLurk]

I know. You guys would rather troll than admit to being wrong. But it is what it is. Kawhi proved that kobe stans were right all along. Kobe > Bron and its time to move on. Its been settled.

It's hard to respond to someone so low IQ. Your post has nothing to do with anything.

[knicksman]

It's hard to respond to someone so low IQ. Your post has nothing to do with anything.

Nah a low IQ is someone who roots for a player who has 4 MVPs but has 0 legit rings to show for it.

[PickernRoller]

It's hard to respond to someone so low IQ. Your post has nothing to do with anything.

How can you claim he's Low IQ while you follow with a nonsensical statement that actually fits the description you prescribe to him.

Tards I tell ya... :lol

[StrongLurk]

How can you claim he's Low IQ while you follow with a nonsensical statement that actually fits the description you prescribe to him.

Tards I tell ya... :lol

Did you read his response post above you? Lol.

[PickernRoller]

I know. You guys would rather troll than admit to being wrong. But it is what it is. Kawhi proved that kobe stans were right all along. Kobe > Bron and its time to move on. Its been settled.

You're right. Kawhi proved that an individual with a similar game to Kobe's while not close in peak could steamroll the East, even on perennial losing team like the Raptors. Kawhi did it on his first year, burying all the Bran narratives about the 8 straight Finals "herculean effort" in the weakass Eastern conference while colluding and stacking his teams to the brim with talent, in large part, to the detriment of the conference he was even playing (hardly any talent came from the West (Love)). All of that and he failed 6 times, got bailed by his teammate and the league in one, and bailed by Ray in the other, after almost choking that series for the first 6 games. Fraud - nothing less.

Low IQ Stronglurk can't read between the lines.


Did you read his response post above you? Lol.

Yes I did dumbie.

[knicksman]

You're right. Kawhi proved that an individual with a similar game to Kobe's while not close in peak could steamroll the East, even on perennial losing team like the Raptors. Kawhi did it on his first year, burying all the Bran narratives about the 8 straight Finals "herculean effort" in the weakass Eastern conference while colluding and stacking his teams to the brim with talent, in large part, to the detriment of the conference he was even playing (hardly any talent came from the West (Love)). All of that and he failed 6 times, got bailed by his teammate and the league in one, and bailed by Ray in the other, after almost choking that series for the first 6 games. Fraud - nothing less.

Low IQ Stronglurk can't read between the lines.



Yes I did dumbie.

These guys know that they cant compete with kobe stans when it comes to serious debate so they just troll. Their stats has no match for eye test. Despite the 4 MVPs, Kawhi, who has no MVP, proves how easy it is to win if you have the kobe skillset instead of bron

[StrongLurk]

You're right. Kawhi proved that an individual with a similar game to Kobe's while not close in peak could steamroll the East, even on perennial losing team like the Raptors. Kawhi did it on his first year, burying all the Bran narratives about the 8 straight Finals "herculean effort" in the weakass Eastern conference while colluding and stacking his teams to the brim with talent, in large part, to the detriment of the conference he was even playing (hardly any talent came from the West (Love)). All of that and he failed 6 times, got bailed by his teammate and the league in one, and bailed by Ray in the other, after almost choking that series for the first 6 games. Fraud - nothing less.

Low IQ Stronglurk can't read between the lines.



Yes I did dumbie.

You are just melting down even more.

I never mentioned Lebron or Kobe. You did.

In a thread about Harden vs Kawhi...you've been so triggered on ISH that you can't help but be paranoid and have constant meltdowns.

[StrongLurk]

Harden with 44/8/5 with 4 steals tonight on crazy good efficiency.