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Vino24
11-14-2019, 07:18 PM
Why hasn

Meticode
11-14-2019, 07:24 PM
I thought this was a well put-together answer I found:

Slavery:Even though both SA and NA had slave labor, had resources and earned their independence at the same generation, NA continued profiting from slave labor for over a century after Europeans left.

Diverse immigration: The biggest achievements in science or technology that made an impact on NA economy were done by immigrants (europeans, asians, jews, etc.). The richest countries/States in NA (CA, TX, Canada, NY) have the most diverse populations. SA was for most of its history an European colony living off Amerindian/black slave labor, where non-european contributions were ignored.

Napoleon: Spain and Portugal were a world power before Napoleon. SA, Mexico and Caribbean colonies were ridiculously rich while NA was poor and mostly ignored by Spaniards, who explored as far as TN or Oregon but didn

fiddy
11-14-2019, 07:25 PM
Europeans left? DF? White americans are definitely not genetically European

CelticBaller
11-14-2019, 07:36 PM
Socialism and U.S involvement

AirBonner
11-14-2019, 07:39 PM
North America was built on settling. South America was built on exploiting resources

highwhey
11-14-2019, 07:42 PM
the fine folks in washington DC

TheMan
11-14-2019, 08:09 PM
the fine folks in washington DC
This has a lot of truth to it.

The US doesn't want strong competing economies below their southern border, that way they can exploit the natural resources of these countries, they've even declared that any other country that meddles in Latin America will be considered a hostile enemy of the US. The US has destabilized Latin American democracies time and again, installing right-wing regimes that were essentially puppets of the US that served their interests at the cost of their own populations. Everyone in Latin America knows this :confusedshrug:

JohnnySic
11-14-2019, 08:13 PM
Cultural advantage. North America is largely a product of English and German culture. South America is largely a product of Spanish and Portuguese culture. Sorry, but Spain and Portugal aren't exactly killing it.

FultzNationRISE
11-14-2019, 08:27 PM
This has a lot of truth to it.

The US doesn't want strong competing economies below their southern border, that way they can exploit the natural resources of these countries, they've even declared that any other country that meddles in Latin America will be considered a hostile enemy of the US. The US has destabilized Latin American democracies time and again, installing right-wing regimes that were essentially puppets of the US that served their interests at the cost of their own populations. Everyone in Latin America knows this :confusedshrug:


Dang, so without lifting a finger we can basically make entire continents dance to our tune?


That's boss :rockon:

Hawker
11-14-2019, 08:54 PM
Dang, so without lifting a finger we can basically make entire continents dance to our tune?


That's boss :rockon:

America swinging that dick around

TheMan
11-14-2019, 08:56 PM
Dang, so without lifting a finger we can basically make entire continents dance to our tune?


That's boss :rockon:
Not exactly, not anymore at least as the failed coup attempt in Venezuela against Chavez or recently against Maduro suggests but years ago, the US was in the running for GOAT Evil Empire masked as Disneyland..read up on the CIA backed coup d'etat of the democratically elected Chilean president Salvador Allende and then installed a dictator in Gen Pinochet or how the US supported the military junta in Argentina that "disappeared" thousands of political dissidents or how they supported the despotic Somoza family in Nicaragua, just for starters champ...and that's just in LA :eek:

CelticBaller
11-14-2019, 08:57 PM
This has a lot of truth to it.

The US doesn't want strong competing economies below their southern border, that way they can exploit the natural resources of these countries, they've even declared that any other country that meddles in Latin America will be considered a hostile enemy of the US. The US has destabilized Latin American democracies time and again, installing right-wing regimes that were essentially puppets of the US that served their interests at the cost of their own populations. Everyone in Latin America knows this :confusedshrug:
Without the U.S intervention Russia and Cuba would

FultzNationRISE
11-14-2019, 09:09 PM
Diverse immigration: The biggest achievements in science or technology that made an impact on NA economy were done by immigrants (europeans, asians, jews, etc.). The richest countries/States in NA (CA, TX, Canada, NY) have the most diverse populations. SA was for most of its history an European colony living off Amerindian/black slave labor, where non-european contributions were ignored.
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This is a PC

FultzNationRISE
11-14-2019, 09:14 PM
Not exactly, not anymore at least as the failed coup attempt in Venezuela against Chavez or recently against Maduro suggests but years ago, the US was in the running for GOAT Evil Empire masked as Disneyland..read up on the CIA backed coup d'etat of the democratically elected Chilean president Salvador Allende and then installed a dictator in Gen Pinochet or how the US supported the military junta in Argentina that "disappeared" thousands of political dissidents or how they supported the despotic Somoza family in Nicaragua, just for starters champ...and that's just in LA :eek:


You sound super defensive. :eek:

Patrick Chewing
11-14-2019, 09:16 PM
Lack of continuous immigration from Europe. Spain and Portugal said enough of that shit.

CelticBaller
11-14-2019, 09:17 PM
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]This is a PC

FultzNationRISE
11-14-2019, 09:49 PM
People think you’re racist but fail to understand the reality

Our society is based and predicated off western civilization. The more Europeans went to SA the more the land benefited from it


Exactly. There is no universal definition of ‘success.’ In western countries, we simply measure it by western standards. If a bunch of bumbling white people showed up in australia’s aborigibal outback and couldnt figure out how to identify edible plants, or consistently snare prey, or predict the weather, theyd be seen in that environment as lower in competence.

ON AVERAGE, people who will be most likely to succeed by western standards, will be western people. Thats like basic evolution. Not including immigrants obviously, as they often represent the overachievers from each culture. But in terms of group vs group averages.

Ofc there will be exceptional individuals from all backgrounds and that’s perfectly cool. It’s not about hating or holding anyone down. We just cant lie about shit with potentially serious social ramifications, because a bunch of wet panty dweebs are more concerned about feelings than whether we have a sustainable social model.

Ultimately, ‘equality’ is simply a fairy tale that guys like ItsMillerTime tells his kids at night.

Altho he actually believes it too which is weird :lol

tpols
11-14-2019, 10:03 PM
Cultural advantage. North America is largely a product of English and German culture. South America is largely a product of Spanish and Portuguese culture. Sorry, but Spain and Portugal aren't exactly killing it.


Bingo.

Northern Europe shits on Southern Europe from an economic perspective.

FultzNationRISE
11-14-2019, 10:12 PM
Bingo.

Northern Europe shits on Southern Europe from an economic perspective.


Since the industrial revolution, yeah. It just makes sense that industrial expertise will be emphasized more greatly in colder landscapes, while agricultural production is more emphasized in warmer climes. I doubt thered be much or any divergence in terms of genetic predisposition in just the last 300 years or so, but certainly in terms of cultural and economic priorities.

TheMan
11-14-2019, 11:22 PM
You sound super defensive. :eek:
Stating facts is now being defensive? You need a safe space? Don't like acknowledging history? Does it make you uncomfortable? :(

FultzNationRISE
11-14-2019, 11:38 PM
Stating facts is now being defensive? You need a safe space? Don't like acknowledging history? Does it make you uncomfortable? :(


Lol nah homez. You can say anything and everything you want about what the US did in the past, I literally take zero offense to it. Couldnt possibly care any less. Im worried bout dat hurr and now. And youre not even an American.

But like... the way you were rambling in one long breath and saying things like “just for starters champ” :lol

Always sounds like youre HELLA bitter about all things ‘Merica.

Doesnt bother me or nothin bro, I actually find it amusing. But I also feel kinda bad for you cuz obvs there’s some feelings goin on there. I can hear the emotions in your tone when you talk about America the Beautiful. Sounds like youre struggling finding closure on stuff. :confusedshrug:

warriorfan
11-15-2019, 12:16 AM
[QUOTE=FultzNationRISE]Exactly. There is no universal definition of

warriorfan
11-15-2019, 12:18 AM
TheMan does come off as a jilted ex lover when it comes to the topic of America. It’s so bad but yet for the life of him he cannot keep their name out of his mouth. :lol

TheMan
11-15-2019, 10:56 AM
TheMan does come off as a jilted ex lover when it comes to the topic of America. It’s so bad but yet for the life of him he cannot keep their name out of his mouth. :lol
Truth to be told, I couldn't care less what you, Chris or any other goofball here thinks about me or my opinions but if you want to pull yourselves out of your "rah rah rah America da bess" ignorance and educate yourselves a bit, I suggest you at least watch Oliver Stone's The Untold History of the United States.