Wilt is the best athlete in NBA history [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

Bronbron23

11-14-2019, 10:53 PM

Nah, David Robinson is.

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Nah. Wilt was an elite college track athlete. He put up elite numbers in sprinting, jumping and throwing. Strength wise it's widely known he could bench 500 lbs and deadlift even more. He really was a freak of nature

hiphopanonymous

11-14-2019, 11:13 PM

OP is right.

Manny98

11-14-2019, 11:17 PM

Not talking player although his an argument for that too. Just talking as a pure athlete.
LeBron still wins, he is faster has better reaction times, much better endurance and can jump higher, we barely even have any footage of Wilt but LeBron on the other hand

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hiphopanonymous

11-14-2019, 11:26 PM

LeBron still wins, he is faster has better reaction times, much better endurance and can jump higher, we barely even have any footage of Wilt but LeBron on the other hand

https://i.postimg.cc/DyW9hYXb/Creepy-Splendid-Ibex-size-restricted.gif
There's tons of footage of Wilt looking like a clearly superior athlete... despite barely any of his career existing on film.

hiphopanonymous

11-14-2019, 11:33 PM

Nah, David Robinson is.

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Because he did a reverse dunk?

Round Mound

11-14-2019, 11:37 PM

Wilt was a mix of David Robinson and Karl Malone in his prime athletically. He is the GOAT athlete IMO.

Smoke117

11-15-2019, 12:03 AM

Because he did a reverse dunk?

If that's all you got from this you clearly are too young to have actually watched him play in the early 90s.

Bronbron23

11-15-2019, 12:22 AM

LeBron still wins, he is faster has better reaction times, much better endurance and can jump higher, we barely even have any footage of Wilt but LeBron on the other hand

https://i.postimg.cc/DyW9hYXb/Creepy-Splendid-Ibex-size-restricted.gif
There's obviously not as much video of wilt but there's enough to get an idea. Not sure why you think Bron is faster and can jump higher. Wilt was an elite high jumper and sprinter.

ShawkFactory

11-15-2019, 12:33 AM

Wilt was a mix of David Robinson and Karl Malone in his prime athletically. He is the GOAT athlete IMO.
What athletic attributes did Karl Malone have on Robinson?

Xiao Yao You

11-15-2019, 12:47 AM

Nah, David Robinson is.

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Gobert does that dunk often

Xiao Yao You

11-15-2019, 12:51 AM

What athletic attributes did Karl Malone have on Robinson?

He was fast

Round Mound

11-15-2019, 12:51 AM

What athletic attributes did Karl Malone have on Robinson?

Strength definetly. Maybe Speed (running to get a pass from Stockton coast to coast) Agility, Quickness and Leaping Ability goes to D-Rob.

Smoke117

11-15-2019, 12:57 AM

Gobert does that dunk often

Does Gobert also run up and down the court like LeBron James or Paul George? David Robinson moved like a surpreme athletic SF while being a legit 7 foot big man.

Smoke117

11-15-2019, 12:59 AM

Strength definetly. Maybe Speed (running to get a pass from Stockton coast to coast) Agility, Quickness and Leaping Ability goes to D-Rob.

Speed? Are you joking. David Robinson moved as well as someone like Scottie Pippen while being a legit big man. Robinson was jumping hurdles in college. Malone isn't even close to as fast as Robinson was.

Xiao Yao You

11-15-2019, 01:02 AM

Speed? Are you joking. David Robinson moved as well as someone like Scottie Pippen while being a legit big man. Robinson was jumping hurdles in college. Malone isn't even close to as fast as Robinson was.

Not sure about that. Malone was fast. Would have been a great defensive end or outside linebacker or tight end with his great hands

Smoke117

11-15-2019, 01:05 AM

Not sure about that. Malone was fast. Would have been a great defensive end or outside linebacker or tight end with his great hands

lol Karl Malone was never capable of doing something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0YfOkNda8g

hiphopanonymous

11-15-2019, 01:08 AM

What athletic attributes did Karl Malone have on Robinson?
...strength

really? You didn't know this? Robinson was a twig when he entered the league. He was a shredded looking ...twig. It's possible to be cut but not be strong. That's why Sabonis abused him in the Olympics prior to the NBA.

When Wilt and Robinson were present in the 97 50 greatest Robinson looked like he could literally disappear behind Wilt's frame. Wilt was massive. And strong. Robinson was graceful and agile - also qualities Wilt had. But Wilt was more than just that.

Xiao Yao You

11-15-2019, 01:08 AM

lol Karl Malone was never capable of doing something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0YfOkNda8g

Ewing ran him down and I know Pat wasn't in Karl's league getting up and down the court

hiphopanonymous

11-15-2019, 01:09 AM

lol Karl Malone was never capable of doing something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0YfOkNda8g
poking the ball and finishing with a dunk in transition!?

Yes, Karl Malone did that probably inumerable times.

Smoke117

11-15-2019, 01:11 AM

...strength

really? You didn't know this? Robinson was a twig when he entered the league. He was a shredded looking ...twig. It's possible to be cut but not be strong. That's why Sabonis abused him in the Olympics prior to the NBA.

When Wilt and Robinson were present in the 97 50 greatest Robinson looked like he could literally disappear behind Wilt's frame. Wilt was massive. And strong. Robinson was graceful and agile - also qualities Wilt had. But Wilt was more than just that.

https://i.redd.it/bckipyz73ba11.jpg ...yeah...he was a twig alright.

Smoke117

11-15-2019, 01:13 AM

poking the ball and finishing with a dunk in transition!?

Yes, Karl Malone did that probably inumerable times.

It's about the movement you child. He is moving like He's Scottie Pippen or Grant Hill when he is much bigger than both of them. Nobody his size has ever had the ridiculous mix of speed, quickness, and agility he had.

Round Mound

11-15-2019, 01:14 AM

Speed? Are you joking. David Robinson moved as well as someone like Scottie Pippen while being a legit big man. Robinson was jumping hurdles in college. Malone isn't even close to as fast as Robinson was.

I said maybe not definetly regarding speed. Strength wise Malone was stronger than Robinson.

Wilt was a combination of both. Check out the way he moves in his 20s while playing for the Globetrotters

At 1:38

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOTMSi_LJqA
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The Speed of Wilt Chamberlain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B22U73v7kAA

[B][U]Wilt vs 7

hiphopanonymous

11-15-2019, 01:14 AM

If that's all you got from this you clearly are too young to have actually watched him play in the early 90s.
I have watched him play. A lot of him playing. He's not as athletic as Wilt and that's from watching countless hours of both of them. His athleticism is more on par with Bill Russell than Wilt and that's no diss to Robinson. He's long and agile but he was never as big or as strong as Wilt. Robinson was 227lbs in the 1988 Olympics, and 235lbs as an NBA rookie. He bulked up to 265 at his absolute heaviest where as Wilt was a 258lb rookie that bulked up to 320lbs and often played above 300. They are apples and oranges in athletic ability not due to agility but due to size and strength.

Smoke117

11-15-2019, 01:14 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKVqpXl3M18 The way he moved was ridiculous when you take in the fact that he's a legit 7 feet.

And just look how dominant he was defensively, 1st in blocks at this point with 5.0 a game (lmfao) and fifth in the league in steals with 2.3. Just a complete terror.

hiphopanonymous

11-15-2019, 01:17 AM

https://i.redd.it/bckipyz73ba11.jpg ...yeah...he was a twig alright.
Telephoto zoom lenses fill out a figure.

Robinson retired at 265lbs, the heaviest he ever was - and he had a wrecked back those seasons and was less mobile at that weight.

As a rookie he was 235lbs. In his first olympic appearance he was 227.

Yeah, he was a twig his first several years in the league. Those years where he looked super mobile. He was never the strongest guy in the league. Ewing was stronger than Robinson and didn't look cut at all. Wilt was perhaps the strongest player in history. On a larger frame - he dwarfed Ewing when they met. And Wilt was about as agile as Robinson. I don't even consider them close as far as athletic comparisons for that reason. Wilt filled up an NBA court and couldn't be moved off a block like Boban but moved more like Robinson.

Round Mound

11-15-2019, 01:23 AM

Another center who was very athletic and strong was 80's Arvydas Sabonis

prior to 1987 Injury:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEYnLxrs4W8

Smoke117

11-15-2019, 01:26 AM

Another center who was very athletic and strong was 80's Arvydas Sabonis

prior to 1987 Injury:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEYnLxrs4W8

Sabas would be top 20 all time if he came to the NBA when he was actually in his prime. Love the guy and will have nothing to say bad about him ever. I adored him on the blazers.

Round Mound

11-15-2019, 01:33 AM

Sabas would be top 20 all time if he came to the NBA when he was actually in his prime. Love the guy and will have nothing to say bad about him ever. I adored him on the blazers.

Sucks that the NBA did not get to see prior to 1987 80's Sabonis. Prior to injury he was a beast.

Smoke117

11-15-2019, 01:35 AM

Sucks that the NBA did not get to see prior to 1987 80's Sabonis. Prior to injury he was a beast.

He was still pretty damn good in the NBA considering his mobility was about 40% of what it was at his peak. Just a great basketball player.

Round Mound

11-15-2019, 01:36 AM

He was still pretty damn good in the NBA considering his mobility was about 40% of what it was at his peak. Just a great basketball player.

:cheers:

Smoke117

11-15-2019, 01:50 AM

:cheers:

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Manny98

11-15-2019, 04:48 AM

There's obviously not as much video of wilt but there's enough to get an idea. Not sure why you think Bron is faster and can jump higher. Wilt was an elite high jumper and sprinter.
Show me clips of Wilt moving faster and jumping higher than peak LeBron, i'd love to see them

sd3035

11-15-2019, 08:29 AM

Wilt was weak and slow, footage doesn't lie

Bill Russell was a much better athlete, hence the domination of Wilt

Bronbron23

11-15-2019, 10:00 AM

Show me clips of Wilt moving faster and jumping higher than peak LeBron, i'd love to see them
See above. Round mound posted a bunch of videos showing wilts speed, jumping and strength.

It's irrelevant though tbh. Wilt dosnt even have to be faster or as fast as LeBron. He dosnt have to be able to jump as high or higher than LeBron. He just has to be close because he's much bigger. Lebron isn't viewed by some as the greatest athlete ever in the NBA because he's stronger, faster and can jump higher than everyone. He's looked on that way because people are amazed that someone that size can move, run and jump as fast or high as he can. There's plenty of smaller players that have higher verticals than LeBron. There's plenty of smaller players that are faster than lebron. There's plenty of bigger players that are stronger than LeBron. There's just nobody his size thats competitive in all three areas.

So if your gonna apply that reasoning to LeBron you have to apply it to wilt aslo:confusedshrug:

Marchesk

11-15-2019, 10:20 AM

Show me clips of Wilt moving faster and jumping higher than peak LeBron, i'd love to see them

Lebron never blocked a jump shot off one step, two feet like this:

https://youtu.be/QF8yJ1J1W7Q?t=42

It's hard to tell exactly how high up Wilt goal-tended that shot, but it's at least above the box. Screen-shot measurements put it between 12-4 and top of the backboard.

Shogon

11-15-2019, 10:42 AM

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DRob isn’t in the conversation.

In no order, the top 4 are Shaq, Wilt, MJ and LeBron... take your pick, I won’t argue.

But DRob? Lol.

DRob isn’t even as athletic as Dwight Howard. Dwight ran faster was stronger despite being shorter and jumped significantly higher.

HoopologyPhD

11-15-2019, 06:33 PM

Bronbron23

11-15-2019, 06:49 PM

Athlete is too ambiguous of a term to accurately describe a player but if we are talking all around athleticism without considering height such as speed,strength, explosiveness from standstill, leaping ability, reflexes, I would say a short player like Nate Robinson or Spud Webb would be most athletic.

This seems more like a discussion of the best TALL athlete in NBA history.
He would be missing the strength aspect though. Nate would most likely have a higher vertical than wilt but wilt would be much stronger. As far as speed it's probably a tie. Nate would be quicker as far as bursts and change of direction but wilt would much faster in a 100 meters or more.

Put it this way. If they were to compete in a bunch of Olympic sports. Wilt would probably mop the floor with him in almost everything. He would crush him in all of the track and field events. He would also crush him in wresting, power lifting, swimming, volleyball, you name it. I'm sure Nate would be better at a few things I'm not thinking of but wilt would be better at way more.

Manny98

11-15-2019, 07:12 PM

See above. Round mound posted a bunch of videos showing wilts speed, jumping and strength.

It's irrelevant though tbh. Wilt dosnt even have to be faster or as fast as LeBron. He dosnt have to be able to jump as high or higher than LeBron. He just has to be close because he's much bigger. Lebron isn't viewed by some as the greatest athlete ever in the NBA because he's stronger, faster and can jump higher than everyone. He's looked on that way because people are amazed that someone that size can move, run and jump as fast or high as he can. There's plenty of smaller players that have higher verticals than LeBron. There's plenty of smaller players that are faster than lebron. There's plenty of bigger players that are stronger than LeBron. There's just nobody his size thats competitive in all three areas.

So if your gonna apply that reasoning to LeBron you have to apply it to wilt aslo:confusedshrug:
How is that anywhere close to prime LeBrons speed and athletisim :oldlol: :oldlol: Stop trolling

Bronbron23

11-15-2019, 07:31 PM

How is that anywhere close to prime LeBrons speed and athletisim :oldlol: :oldlol: Stop trolling
Your only seeing what you want to see dude. There's a clip in those videos that absolutely shows wilt running as fast as I've ever seen Bron run. That along with the fact that he's officially clocked at 49 seconds in the 400 meter should say it all.

I put it to you like I put it to another guy on here. If LeBron and wilt or whoever in the history of the NBA competed In All of the Olympic games wilt would crush Bron and everyone else in pretty much everything. All of the track events like sprinting, long jump,high jump, shotput ECT. Most of the other events also. Swimming, volleyball, wrestling, power lifting you name it. There a few things Bron would win at but wilt would be better in most of them.