Effective offensive pressure (winning attrition battle), or random luck?

[3ball]

1) Did the Spurs magically get hot because the basketball gods were kind?

2) Or were they simply applying more pressure than they were facing, thus gradually wining the attrition battle


The Spurs weren't the first or last team to randomly "get hot" against the plodding Lebron-ball, because all his Finals loss ended with the opponent winning the last 3 games and running away with the series..

so all indications show that Lebron-ball doesn't apply effective pressure at the championship level to win the attrition battle against teams that are moving the ball well and applying MORE pressure - his worn-down team can't get hot as easily as the team that's handling the pressure/comfortable defensively, and therefore able to go off offensively.
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[RRR3]

Ban OP.

[FKAri]

Imagine if Vince McMahon wrote himself to win every WWE belt. Lebron doesn't just give himself the ring every year. He's a true artiste.

[STATUTORY]

Bran stans shook at the sight of OP's threads like Lebron seeing Kawhi checking back into the game: "damn not again"

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[FKAri]

Bran stans shook at the sight of OP's threads like Lebron seeing Kawhi checking back into the game: "damn not again"

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He baited the haters wonderfully with this one as he ended up winning the whole thing anyway :applause:

[3ball]

He baited the haters wonderfully with this one as he ended up winning the whole thing anyway :applause:
Actually, he was a lucky c.unt in the 13' Finals because his broke jumper was successfully exploited and he was choking worse than 2011 before Ray Allen saved him..

He averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games and 23 on 43 thru 6, while being a net negative overall for the series - so a Finals loss would've made his career a historical joke, but Ray stepped in and saved his career.

Nonetheless, the stats tell the story - he was still a net negative for the series overall (the Heat lost with him on the floor), and he averaged only 25 on 45%, with only 5 more ppg than his sidekick - so it wasn't a carry job, whereas MJ always scored 10-20 more than his 2nd option and was never as bad through 6 games, or a net negative.. No comparison

[sdot_thadon]

I'm sure it was due to the collective weight of Op's thousands upon thousands posts and topics about Lebron. Congrats op you did it :rolleyes:

[3ball]

The title needs to be changed to "Can a team win a championship series based on random luck?"

Then the OP flows properly

Apparently, I edited it too late. Mods can you fix it?
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[RRR3]

The title needs to be changed to "Can a team win a championship series based on random luck?"

Then the OP flows properly

Apparently, I edited it too late. Mods can you fix it?
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Quiet, you babbling loon.

[AlternativeAcc.]

OP's life hinges on the idea that LeBron's an overhyped loser who can never win


You can only imagine what this last decade has done to the poor guy, and now he's watching LeBron dominate well into his 30's with no sign of slowing down

These crazy narratives come from a very desperate place and a flailing ego, OP just can't let it go that he's wrong about LeBron


It's actually incredibly sad when you think about how much this means to OP, the majority of his existence is spent trying to convince people he was right about a basketball player (whom he's clearly wrong about)


Fukk...

[3ball]

OP's life hinges on the idea that LeBron's an overhyped loser who can never win


You can only imagine what this last decade has done to the poor guy, and now he's watching LeBron dominate well into his 30's with no sign of slowing down

These crazy narratives come from a very desperate place and a flailing ego, OP just can't let it go that he's wrong about LeBron


It's actually incredibly sad when you think about how much this means to OP, the majority of his existence is spent trying to convince people he was right about a basketball player (whom he's clearly wrong about)


Fukk...
The Spurs weren't the first or last team to randomly "get hot" against the plodding Lebron-ball, because all his Finals loss ended with the opponent winning the last 3 games and running away with the series..

so all indications are that Lebron-ball doesn't apply effective pressure at the championship level to win the attrition battle against teams that are moving the ball well and applying MORE pressure,

Btw, going to redo the thread with the right title.. see if the mods allow it.. you'll see, it will read much better

[AlternativeAcc.]

The Spurs weren't the first or last team to randomly "get hot" against the plodding Lebron-ball, because all his Finals loss ended with the opponent winning the last 3 games and running away with the series..

so all indications are that Lebron-ball doesn't apply effective pressure at the championship level to win the attrition battle against teams that are moving the ball well and applying MORE pressure,

Btw, going to redo the thread with the right title.. see if the mods allow it.. you'll see, it will read much better
So you made up an argument that nobody makes ('Spurs got randomly hot and lucky') <---- Nobody's ever said or argued this

And then imply that there's a pre-existing narrative that teams get hot against LeBron in the finals, which again doesn't actually exist.


but we see this is the type of shit that is created out of thin air from a very desperate man trying to justify his position, to a random audience, on a basketball forum, about a player he deems inadequate

yikes..

[3ball]

So you made up an argument that nobody makes ('Spurs got randomly hot and lucky') <---- Nobody's ever said or argued this

And then imply that there's a pre-existing narrative that teams get hot against LeBron in the finals, which again doesn't actually exist.


but we see this is the type of shit that is created out of thin air from a very desperate man trying to justify his position, to a random audience, on a basketball forum, about a player he deems inadequate

yikes..
Anytime someone asks why the Heat lost in 2014, the answer is "the Spurs got hot"

that's the primary excuse

the excuse isn't age because the spurs core was much older..

and it isn't wade because he was lights out in the ECF and many have won with worse sidekick help (let alone having a 3rd star as backup.. but that's the problem - bosh couldn't be activated because he'd been reduced to spot-up shooter)

so the answer that people use is that the Spurs simply "got hot", which is bullshit.. The Spurs weren't the first or last team to randomly "get hot" against the plodding Lebron-ball, because all his Finals loss ended with the opponent winning the last 3 games and running away with the series..

so all indications show that Lebron-ball doesn't apply effective pressure at the championship level to win the attrition battle against teams that are moving the ball well and applying MORE pressure - his worn-down team can't get hot as easily as the team that's handling the pressure/comfortable defensively, and therefore able to go off offensively.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Anytime someone asks why the Heat lost in 2014, the answer is "the Spurs got hot"

that's the primary excuse

the excuse isn't age because the spurs core was much older..

and it isn't wade because he was lights out in the ECF and many have won with worse sidekick help (let alone having a 3rd star as backup.. but that's the problem - bosh couldn't be activated because he'd been reduced to spot-up shooter)

so the answer that people use is that the Spurs simply "got hot", which is bullshit.. The Spurs weren't the first or last team to randomly "get hot" against the plodding Lebron-ball, because all his Finals loss ended with the opponent winning the last 3 games and running away with the series..

so all indications show that Lebron-ball doesn't apply effective pressure at the championship level to win the attrition battle against teams that are moving the ball well and applying MORE pressure - his worn-down team can't get hot as easily as the team that's handling the pressure/comfortable defensively, and therefore able to go off offensively.
Nope

Everyone admits the Spurs were an all-time great team with 4 HOF'ers, elite role players, and GOAT coach. They were 'hot' all season long.

:sleeping

The narratives grow weaker and weaker as you become increasingly more desperate due to LeBron's sustained and unmatchable greatness. :lol


Good shit!

[3ball]

Nope

Everyone admits the Spurs were an all-time great team with 4 HOF'ers, elite role players, and GOAT coach. They were 'hot' all season long.

:sleeping

The narratives grow weaker and weaker as you become increasingly more desperate due to LeBron's sustained and unmatchable greatness. :lol


Good shit!
They Heat were a 4-HOF defending champion with elite role players - they were the team with the talent advantage - no one thought they were at a talent deficit versus the Spurs, who had the much older core (Duncan/Ginobili/Parker were 36/37/32... Lebron/Bosh/Wade were 29/28/32)

The odds were also even money (https://www.nj.com/knicks/2014/06/nba_finals_2014_experts_predict_whether_the_heat_o r_spurs_will_come_out_on_top_in_the_finals_rematch .html).

So you're the one ignoring the facts and wanting to believe your version - the talent was even, but the spurs had a far greater brand of ball - that's what happened.

[egokiller]

Ban OP.

The meltdown continues...