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SpaceJam2
11-18-2019, 11:53 AM
LeBron: 3x (12, 13, 16)
Shaq: 3x (00, 01, 02)
Duncan: 2x (03, 07)
Kawhi: 1x (14)
Iggy: 1x (15)


Am I missing anyone?

Notables:

Pippen was the Bulls defensive anchor for 6 years

Jordan never was the defensive anchor

Magic was a shit defender, so was Bird

Kareem prob has one?

superduper
11-18-2019, 11:55 AM
https://streamable.com/3snae

Vino24
11-18-2019, 11:58 AM
https://streamable.com/3snae
10:53am : OP
10:55am : Superdumb

You slipping but still made it in the 2 min mark :cheers:

SpaceJam2
11-18-2019, 11:59 AM
Can we take away Shaq's '02 defensive anchor chip?

red1
11-18-2019, 12:00 PM
10:53am : OP
10:55am : Superdumb

You slipping but still made it in the 2 min mark :cheers:
his response time and reaction time is very good.



one time I even caught him changing teams mid-series when his team started losing- most bandwagoners wait until the playoffs are over before they change teams but superdumb is a little bit faster than most.

superduper
11-18-2019, 12:01 PM
10:53am : OP
10:55am : Superdumb

You slipping but still made it in the 2 min mark :cheers:

Working from home baby boy what ya upto?

Gettin money in my jamas mofuka

red1
11-18-2019, 12:03 PM
Working from home baby boy what ya upto?

Gettin money in my jamas mofuka
no you're not :roll:

scuzzy
11-18-2019, 12:04 PM
10:53am : OP
10:55am : Superdumb

You slipping but still made it in the 2 min mark :cheers:
:oldlol: :oldlol:

Hey Yo
11-18-2019, 12:09 PM
Working from home baby boy what ya upto?

Gettin money in my jamas mofuka
https://media.tenor.com/images/4aa8141107d00d02fbbbf48412c954ef/tenor.gif

:roll: :roll:

superduper
11-18-2019, 12:13 PM
Ok I don't need you to believe me to get paid :oldlol:

SpaceJam2
11-18-2019, 12:35 PM
his response time and reaction time is very good.



one time I even caught him changing teams mid-series when his team started losing- most bandwagoners wait until the playoffs are over before they change teams but superdumb is a little bit faster than most.

:roll: :roll:

SpaceJam2
11-18-2019, 12:44 PM
Working from home baby boy what ya upto?

Gettin money in my jamas mofuka

:lol :lol

Manny98
11-18-2019, 12:55 PM
https://streamable.com/3snae
Lakers have the best defense in the league and Vogel just came out and said that the reason the Lakers defense is so great is because of LeBron

Try again

Bosnian Sajo
11-18-2019, 12:56 PM
We all love Lebron, but defensive anchor? Really dude?? :oldlol:


Wouldn't Shane Battier be considered the "defensive anchor", if anyone on that team?

SpaceJam2
11-18-2019, 01:01 PM
We all love Lebron, but defensive anchor? Really dude?? :oldlol:


Wouldn't Shane Battier be considered the "defensive anchor", if anyone on that team?


Cute.

Keep plugging away with hot takes Im sure one will stick :lol

warriorfan
11-18-2019, 01:02 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/JhVBJdHk/280-F87-C4-99-C8-45-C8-AE9-F-A5-C1-F419-BB78.jpg

hiphopanonymous
11-18-2019, 01:06 PM
Bill Russell owns this

Trollsmasher
11-18-2019, 01:07 PM
We all love Lebron, but defensive anchor? Really dude?? :oldlol:


Wouldn't Shane Battier be considered the "defensive anchor", if anyone on that team?
lol no

that team's hyperaggresive defense (designed to hide Bosh's incapability to protect the rim in a traditional PnR coverage) was wholly predicated on LeBron's (and to a lesser extent Wade's) inhuman ability to cover ground

a period article:

[QUOTE]Ultra-aggressive help defense is really hard work. Replay that clip and watch how far DeRozan

superduper
11-18-2019, 01:11 PM
lol no

that team's hyperaggresive defense (designed to hide Bosh's incapability to protect the rim in a traditional PnR coverage) was wholly predicated on LeBron's (and to a lesser extent Wade's) inhuman ability to cover ground

a period article:



https://grantland.com/features/the-toronto-raptors-sportvu-cameras-nba-analytical-revolution/

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/10/16/4831376/chris-bosh-video-breakdown-blitz-miami-heat

https://www.nba.com/heat/newsrecap/defensive-travels-chris-bosh

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1187550-chris-bosh-injury-breaking-down-how-miami-heats-defense-will-crumble-sans-bosh

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/chris-bosh-doesnt-block-shots-but-who-cares/

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/breakdown-chris-bosh-gives-dominating-defensive-performance/

Next LeMyth please :oldlol:

SpaceJam2
11-18-2019, 01:18 PM
lol no

that team's hyperaggresive defense (designed to hide Bosh's incapability to protect the rim in a traditional PnR coverage) was wholly predicated on LeBron's (and to a lesser extent Wade's) inhuman ability to cover ground

a period article:



https://grantland.com/features/the-toronto-raptors-sportvu-cameras-nba-analytical-revolution/

Bingo
Another day :hammertime:

Another win :dancin :djparty

Bosnian Sajo
11-18-2019, 01:19 PM
lol no

that team's hyperaggresive defense (designed to hide Bosh's incapability to protect the rim in a traditional PnR coverage) was wholly predicated on LeBron's (and to a lesser extent Wade's) inhuman ability to cover ground

a period article:



https://grantland.com/features/the-toronto-raptors-sportvu-cameras-nba-analytical-revolution/

Oh, Cool! Then go ahead and add Kobe to that list as well. Ron, much like Battier, guarded the opposing teams best player, but the team's defense was predicated on Kobe's elite help defense and individual defense. You remember Kobe, right? One of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time? Father to the All-Defensive team? You remember.


How about Tristan Thompson in Cleveland? Or is it the same thing, the top defender is Lebron because of <InsertExcuse>?

Rico2016
11-18-2019, 01:32 PM
Oh, Cool! Then go ahead and add Kobe to that list as well. Ron, much like Battier, guarded the opposing teams best player, but the team's defense was predicated on Kobe's elite help defense and individual defense. You remember Kobe, right? One of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time? Father to the All-Defensive team? You remember.


How about Tristan Thompson in Cleveland? Or is it the same thing, the top defender is Lebron because of <InsertExcuse>?


Are you saying Kobe Bryant is a better defender than Ron Artest?

superduper
11-18-2019, 02:42 PM
Are you saying Kobe Bryant is a better defender than Ron Artest?

The version that Kobe had, absolutely.

RealSkipBayless
11-18-2019, 03:13 PM
Guarding 1-5 all day long

Seemingly endless amounts of primes. Can this man be stopped? :banana: :banana:

Trollsmasher
11-18-2019, 03:46 PM
Oh, Cool! Then go ahead and add Kobe to that list as well. Ron, much like Battier, guarded the opposing teams best player, but the team's defense was predicated on Kobe's elite help defense and individual defense. You remember Kobe, right? One of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time? Father to the All-Defensive team? You remember.


How about Tristan Thompson in Cleveland? Or is it the same thing, the top defender is Lebron because of <InsertExcuse>?
It wasn't as Lakers could afford to run classic schemes because of Gasol and Bynum being legit rim protectors unlike Bosh.

Celtics 1825
11-18-2019, 04:28 PM
Working from home baby boy what ya upto?

Gettin money in my jamas mofuka
You don't have a job

superduper
11-18-2019, 04:36 PM
You don't have a job

Weird insults but okay :oldlol:

Bosnian Sajo
11-18-2019, 05:01 PM
It wasn't as Lakers could afford to run classic schemes because of Gasol and Bynum being legit rim protectors unlike Bosh.


Bynum barely played in the 2 finals series where Kobe was FMVP, BUT OK.


Gasol I can understand, but even he wasn't strong enough to lock down big men down low. Yall love to overrate everyone on the Lakers except the man himself.

brooks_thompson
11-18-2019, 05:04 PM
You realize it's called the Bill Russell Finals MVP award right?

And, if you wanna play the technicality 'it didn't exist' game, then 5 for Tim Duncan, 4 for Shaq.

I've seen you make good, normal conversational posts when you try. Why do you do this shit?

SpaceJam2
11-23-2019, 07:32 PM
Will anyone ever top 3 FMVPs as team's defensive anchor?

Another GOAT record

Duncan21formvp
11-23-2019, 09:45 PM
MJ did this 6x. Was NBA Defensive First Team each time as well he won. Tim Duncan did this 5x.

Ainosterhaspie
11-23-2019, 10:49 PM
[QUOTE=hiphopanonymous]Bill Russell owns this

CAstill
11-24-2019, 02:13 AM
Will anyone ever top 3 FMVPs as team's defensive anchor?

Another GOAT record


Pretty sure Duncan has 3 fmvps and was the best defender for all three

SpaceJam2
11-24-2019, 02:14 AM
Pretty sure Duncan has 3 fmvps and was the best defender for all three

99 is probably DRob

But even still...No one is close to LBJ

Rico2016
11-24-2019, 07:53 PM
William Russell
LeBron Raymone James
Timothy Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal

SpaceJam2
11-30-2019, 06:21 PM
LeBron: 3x (12, 13, 16)
Shaq: 3x (00, 01, 02)
Duncan: 2x (03, 07)
Kawhi: 1x (14)
Iggy: 1x (15)


Am I missing anyone?

Notables:

Pippen was the Bulls defensive anchor for 6 years

Jordan never was the defensive anchor

Magic was a shit defender, so was Bird

Kareem prob has one?



Anyone?

SpaceJam2
11-30-2019, 07:38 PM
And for the record...Kobe is a NEGATIVE in playoff DBPM (-0.3) and has a higher DRtg than Jordan and LeBron

Defensive Playoff Statistics (Kobe/MJ fans may want to look away)

DefRtg
LBJ: 102
MJ: 104
Kobe: 106

DBPM
LBJ: 3.2
MJ: 2.1
Kobe: -0.3 :lol

DWS
LBJ: 15.9
MJ: 12.4
Kobe: 7.3

LBJ is ranked 1st in all
Kobe is ranked last in all

LBJ > MJ > Kobe

Defensively

Next

rmt
11-30-2019, 10:30 PM
99 is probably DRob

But even still...No one is close to LBJ

Where is '05 Duncan? Averaged 14.1 rebs, 2.1 blks vs Ben/Rasheed Wallaces and McDyess.

SpaceJam2
11-30-2019, 10:43 PM
Where is '05 Duncan? Averaged 14.1 rebs, 2.1 blks vs Ben/Rasheed Wallaces and McDyess.

:lol

Uh, well TD only won 3 FMVPs, so if he wasnt in 99 then that would mean 2 max.

Still, more than MJ who is 0 for 6

And1AllDay
12-14-2019, 03:28 AM
Guarding 1-5 all day long

Seemingly endless amounts of primes. Can this man be stopped? :banana: :banana:

:rockon: :rockon:

Lebron6
12-15-2019, 06:53 PM
...

SpaceJam2
12-22-2019, 03:01 PM
And for the record...Kobe is a NEGATIVE in playoff DBPM (-0.3) and has a higher DRtg than Jordan and LeBron

Defensive Playoff Statistics (Kobe/MJ fans may want to look away)

DefRtg
LBJ: 102
MJ: 104
Kobe: 106

DBPM
LBJ: 3.2
MJ: 2.1
Kobe: -0.3 :lol

DWS
LBJ: 15.9
MJ: 12.4
Kobe: 7.3

LBJ is ranked 1st in all
Kobe is ranked last in all

LBJ > MJ > Kobe

Defensively

Next

Fax keep haters quiet?

Andrei89
12-22-2019, 03:27 PM
LeBron: 3x (12, 13, 16)
Shaq: 3x (00, 01, 02)
Duncan: 2x (03, 07)
Kawhi: 1x (14)
Iggy: 1x (15)


Am I missing anyone?

Notables:

Pippen was the Bulls defensive anchor for 6 years

Jordan never was the defensive anchor

Magic was a shit defender, so was Bird

Kareem prob has one?



Kawhi wasn

And1AllDay
12-22-2019, 03:44 PM
[QUOTE=Andrei89]Kawhi wasn

And1AllDay
12-22-2019, 03:52 PM
MJ did this 6x. Was NBA Defensive First Team each time as well he won. Tim Duncan did this 5x.


he literally did it zero times bruh :oldlol:


teams starting drtg leader (lebron led teams)
2012: lebron 99
2013: lebron 101
2016: lebron 100

lebrons gap? 0 he was the leader each time, 3 for 3

teams starting drtg leader (jordan led teams)
91: pippen 100, mike 101
92: pippen 102, mike 104
93: pippen 105, mike 105 (tied)
96: pippen 96, mike 101 (BIG gap)
97: harper 100, mike 101
98: pippen, 99 mike 103 (BIG gap)

mike sgap? 13 he was the leader zero times, 0 for 6

stick with me

times leading team as defensive anchor

bron 3 for 3
mike 0 for 6