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Angel Face
11-18-2019, 09:48 PM
Duncan, 2-1 record vs Lebron in the finals, 1 sweep series and 1 greatest ragdoll in sports history.

Who ranks higher in the ATG?

knicksman
11-18-2019, 09:50 PM
Why are people comparing lebron when he hasnt proven himself yet? 1 ring is more than enough to beat his 4 MVPs.

FKAri
11-18-2019, 09:57 PM
Lebron over Duncan in any and every form of non-homosexual competition. And vice versa.

warriorfan
11-18-2019, 10:09 PM
Lebron over Duncan in any and every form of non-homosexual competition. And vice versa.

Hey hey hey....Bron can give big gay Duncan a run for his money

https://rapsta24.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/dwayne-wade-lebron-james-e1443689096670.jpg

FKAri
11-18-2019, 10:13 PM
Hey hey hey....Bron can give big gay Duncan a run for his money

https://rapsta24.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/dwayne-wade-lebron-james-e1443689096670.jpg
No doubt. But Duncan's the maestro of that domain. Challenging him would be foolish. Don't sleep on him or he'll **** your dicc with his ass.

red1
11-18-2019, 10:13 PM
Lebron over Duncan in any and every form of non-homosexual competition. And vice versa.
:roll::roll:

can't even hate on him but I will


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bigkingsfan
11-18-2019, 10:32 PM
No doubt. But Duncan's the maestro of that domain. Challenging him would be foolish. Don't sleep on him or he'll **** your dicc with his ass.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2197/2243021720_05c36be1b7_o.jpg

http://factoryofbubbles.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/timmmyd.jpg

https://noroads2112.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/tim-duncan-500x648.jpg

highwhey
11-18-2019, 11:40 PM
Lebron over Duncan in any and every form of non-homosexual competition. And vice versa.
:roll:

Duncan21formvp
11-19-2019, 12:12 AM
Duncan all day over Lebron. Lebron isn't even better than Kobe yet

Duncan21formvp
11-19-2019, 10:59 PM
Why are people comparing lebron when he hasnt proven himself yet? 1 ring is more than enough to beat his 4 MVPs.
Agreed! Should be compared to Dr J instead.

tontoz
11-19-2019, 11:18 PM
I think the consensus among fans would be that Lebron is the better player.

However with Duncan it is very easy to fit a team around him. You can just try to get the best players as opposed to trying to get a specific type of player to fit with him.

superduper
11-19-2019, 11:27 PM
The one that didn't need to run away to multiple superteams to be relevant.

dreamshake
11-20-2019, 02:32 AM
Duncan, the guy that won his titles organically.

Lebron23
11-20-2019, 02:38 AM
Lebron is the superior player Better stats more mvp, and soon more finals mvp. He is the system not a system player like the original load management Tim Duncan.

Gileraracer
11-20-2019, 07:48 AM
Duncan regularly shit on Lebron on the biggest stage, so easily TD

Duncan21formvp
11-27-2019, 12:09 AM
Lebron is the superior player Better stats more mvp, and soon more finals mvp. He is the system not a system player like the original load management Tim Duncan.

Lebron is the system player, otherwise why has he been down in a series at least 3-2 every year of his career?

Duncan21formvp
06-13-2020, 04:25 PM
Duncan, 2-1 record vs Lebron in the finals, 1 sweep series and 1 greatest ragdoll in sports history.

Who ranks higher in the ATG?

5 Championships with 1 franchise in the modern era is very impressive. Also beat LeBron in the finals twice.

Championships
Duncan 5, LeBron 3

FMVP
Duncan 3, LeBron 3

MVP
LeBron 4, Duncan 2

NBA First Team
LeBron 12, Duncan 10

NBA All Defensive Team
Duncan 15, LeBron 6

Both won Rookie of the year. Duncan made the playoffs 18 years in a row, winning 50 plus games every single year with the same franchise.

Rico2016
06-13-2020, 04:36 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/ZqpPYCnT/6-911-PTS.png

No one is close to passing the Scoring King.

Let me know some someone else even crosses the 6,000 playoff points mark.

Axe
06-13-2020, 06:29 PM
Thanks, eastern conference, for making 6,911 a big possibility.

HBK_Kliq_2
06-13-2020, 08:31 PM
Duncan starts slowing down after 2007 and has some huge down moments like averaging 13PPG in 2011. LeBron's career is just more consistently great. Duncan still has an argument for peaks but even that I favor LeBron. Career wise I think LeBron has clearly passed Duncan up because his poor 2009-2012 years.

ELITEpower23
06-13-2020, 08:35 PM
Thanks, eastern conference, for making 6,911 a big possibility.

Half the league plays in the East doofus. Who else got 6,911 in the East? To make matters funnier I bet you could only add up his ECF and Finals points only and he would still have more scored than almost anyone.

Axe
06-14-2020, 04:21 AM
Half the league plays in the East doofus. Who else got 6,911 in the East? To make matters funnier I bet you could only add up his ECF and Finals points only and he would still have more scored than almost anyone.
You know, you are really dumb for having different dups.

Btw, are 8-straight finals appearances possible for him if he played in the west? I just don't think so, slick.

MrFonzworth
06-14-2020, 06:10 AM
You know, you are really dumb for having different dups.

Btw, are 8-straight finals appearances possible for him if he played in the west? I just don't think so, slick.

:roll::roll::roll:

ImKobe
06-14-2020, 08:24 AM
Half the league plays in the East doofus. Who else got 6,911 in the East? To make matters funnier I bet you could only add up his ECF and Finals points only and he would still have more scored than almost anyone.

Half of the league does play in the East, but most of the elite-tier players have played out West during Lebron's career. Lebron's crazy longevity should be taken into account and it's probably the best thing he has going for him, but to act like he didn't have an advantage playing in the weaker Conference is just being dishonest. Like, how many points does he lose out on if he played in the WC from 06-18? He's not making 9 Finals, he probably loses in the first round multiple times in the mid-2000s, that combined with the inflated scoring in today's era obviously made it possible for him to score as many points in the Playoffs.

He faces 41-win Wizards & Nets squads to make the ECF in 2007, neither of which would have made the Playoffs out West. The Pistons team he beat had the #1 seed at 53 wins, which was good for a 4th seed out West that had multiple 60-win teams, Cavaliers were the #2 seed at 50 wins, wouldn't have had HCA out West. He wouldn't have made the Playoffs out West with a 45-37 record in 2008, even the 9th best team in the West had 48 wins. In 2009, he faces a 39-win Pistons and a 47-win Hawks team in the first two rounds, those teams wouldn't have even made the Playoffs out West.

There are so many more examples of the East being so much inferior, like when the Heat made the Finals in 2013 without facing a single 50-win team, when out West you had 5 teams with 56+ wins compared to only two EC teams having 50+ wins.

Jamal23
06-14-2020, 11:49 AM
Duncan has more championships but LeBron has a better peak and better career stats

Both are top 10 greats but LeBron clearly wins on this one

BigShotBob
06-14-2020, 12:55 PM
Half of the league does play in the East, but most of the elite-tier players have played out West during Lebron's career. Lebron's crazy longevity should be taken into account and it's probably the best thing he has going for him, but to act like he didn't have an advantage playing in the weaker Conference is just being dishonest. Like, how many points does he lose out on if he played in the WC from 06-18? He's not making 9 Finals, he probably loses in the first round multiple times in the mid-2000s, that combined with the inflated scoring in today's era obviously made it possible for him to score as many points in the Playoffs.

He faces 41-win Wizards & Nets squads to make the ECF in 2007, neither of which would have made the Playoffs out West. The Pistons team he beat had the #1 seed at 53 wins, which was good for a 4th seed out West that had multiple 60-win teams, Cavaliers were the #2 seed at 50 wins, wouldn't have had HCA out West. He wouldn't have made the Playoffs out West with a 45-37 record in 2008, even the 9th best team in the West had 48 wins. In 2009, he faces a 39-win Pistons and a 47-win Hawks team in the first two rounds, those teams wouldn't have even made the Playoffs out West.

There are so many more examples of the East being so much inferior, like when the Heat made the Finals in 2013 without facing a single 50-win team, when out West you had 5 teams with 56+ wins compared to only two EC teams having 50+ wins.

Complete and utter

Ether.

There is no coming back from this. Zip em' up.

Duncan >

Walk on Water
06-14-2020, 01:02 PM
Duncan is the better player. He is easier to build a team with or around. With Lebron there is a lack of system and so you have to force talent around him. Wade, Bosh, Love, Irving, Davis, etc.. That’s the biggest factor.

Duncan is also the better defensive player. He is the better shot blocker and rebounder as well. His ability to be a good passer and play in a system is more valuable than Lebron controlling the ball and getting 7 assists.

You can make a case that Lebron is a more talented individual player because of his scoring and offensive dominance. But basketball is a team game and Duncan is the better team player. That’s why he’s beaten him so many times.

red1
06-14-2020, 01:14 PM
lifelong basketball scholar here. gotta go with lebron/pop over duncan/pop every time. 17 years of 2nd GOAT material right there.


mike brown/lebron/boobie vs duncan/parker/ginobili/bowen/pop is a different story

Roundball_Rock
06-14-2020, 01:22 PM
Half the league plays in the East doofus. Who else got 6,911 in the East? To make matters funnier I bet you could only add up his ECF and Finals points only and he would still have more scored than almost anyone.

The funny thing about the WC trolling is if LeBron was in the WC instead of the EC that means...he would be on a WC team. :lol People want to transport the Cavs to the WC and ask how they would do. If he starts his career in the WC, he likely does better in the 2000's. Cleveland had an incompetent front office.

Nash, Dirk, Durant, Harden, Curry, Kobe all spearheading perennial WC contenders--but LeBron couldn't do the same or better? :facepalm

aj1987
06-14-2020, 03:12 PM
Like, how many points does he lose out on if he played in the WC from 06-18? He's not making 9 Finals, he probably loses in the first round multiple times in the mid-2000s
Except for the FACT that LeBron has identical stats vs the WC teams , as he did with the EC teams, during those mentioned seasons. IIRC, LeBron also almost always had a better record record vs the EC teams than against WC teams, so there goes that retarded logic.


that combined with the inflated scoring in today's era obviously made it possible for him to score as many points in the Playoffs.
Do you really want to go there? LeBron, by 2016, has 5,572 PO points in 199 PO games. The 2016 Cav's had a pace of 93.4. That's only 3 possessions a game more than Duncan's PEAK in '03. Till 2016, Duncan's and LeBron's teams almost always played at the same pace. Duncan had 5,172 points in 251 games. :roll:


He faces 41-win Wizards & Nets squads to make the ECF in 2007, neither of which would have made the Playoffs out West. The Pistons team he beat had the #1 seed at 53 wins, which was good for a 4th seed out West that had multiple 60-win teams, Cavaliers were the #2 seed at 50 wins, wouldn't have had HCA out West. He wouldn't have made the Playoffs out West with a 45-37 record in 2008, even the 9th best team in the West had 48 wins. In 2009, he faces a 39-win Pistons and a 47-win Hawks team in the first two rounds, those teams wouldn't have even made the Playoffs out West.
Yet, you're ignoring the fact that LeBron was playing with Delonte and Mo as his running mates, while Duncan was playing with multiple All-NBA, All-Def, and All-Star players on his squads from his ROOKIE season. You idiots keep bringing up the talent difference between the conferences, but fail to acknowledge the FACT that LeBron would have more talent if he played in the WC. That's beyond autistic. Are you also ignoring the FACT that Duncan was losing to the #8 seed, while he was the #1 seed or when he was losing to the #7 seed as the #2 seed? Those were his PRIME seasons, BTW.

Oh, another fun fact. Kobe scored only 68 more points than LeBron in the PO's than LeBron did till 2016. Again, before you bring up pace, the 2010 Lakers had a higher pace than the 2016 Cav's, and that was Kobe's highest scoring PO run during his career. Did I mention the FACT that LeBron did that in 21 fewer games played and on significantly better efficiency?


There are so many more examples of the East being so much inferior, like when the Heat made the Finals in 2013 without facing a single 50-win team, when out West you had 5 teams with 56+ wins compared to only two EC teams having 50+ wins.

Again:

Yet, you're ignoring the fact that LeBron was playing with Delonte and Mo as his running mates, while Duncan was playing with multiple All-NBA, All-Def, and All-Star players on his squads from his ROOKIE season. You idiots keep bringing up the talent difference between the conferences, but fail to acknowledge the FACT that LeBron would have more talent if he played in the WC. That's beyond autistic.

ELITEpower23
06-14-2020, 03:14 PM
You know, you are really dumb for having different dups.

Btw, are 8-straight finals appearances possible for him if he played in the west? I just don't think so, slick.

Listen here bucko, we can add up only LeBron's Finals points and he is still top 25 all time. Let that sink in. Eliminate half of LeBron's scoring and he is still top 25

ELITEpower23
06-14-2020, 03:16 PM
Half of the league does play in the East, but most of the elite-tier players have played out West during Lebron's career. Lebron's crazy longevity should be taken into account and it's probably the best thing he has going for him, but to act like he didn't have an advantage playing in the weaker Conference is just being dishonest. Like, how many points does he lose out on if he played in the WC from 06-18? He's not making 9 Finals, he probably loses in the first round multiple times in the mid-2000s, that combined with the inflated scoring in today's era obviously made it possible for him to score as many points in the Playoffs.

He faces 41-win Wizards & Nets squads to make the ECF in 2007, neither of which would have made the Playoffs out West. The Pistons team he beat had the #1 seed at 53 wins, which was good for a 4th seed out West that had multiple 60-win teams, Cavaliers were the #2 seed at 50 wins, wouldn't have had HCA out West. He wouldn't have made the Playoffs out West with a 45-37 record in 2008, even the 9th best team in the West had 48 wins. In 2009, he faces a 39-win Pistons and a 47-win Hawks team in the first two rounds, those teams wouldn't have even made the Playoffs out West.

There are so many more examples of the East being so much inferior, like when the Heat made the Finals in 2013 without facing a single 50-win team, when out West you had 5 teams with 56+ wins compared to only two EC teams having 50+ wins.

Question:

If the East was so weak and easy why did NOBODY want to challenge LeBron? why did NO ONE come to make a move and compete in the 'weak east' ?

Carmello was the only one I can think of and he did better in the West than the East :lol

Roundball_Rock
06-14-2020, 03:53 PM
LeBron also almost always had a better record record vs the EC teams than against WC teams, so there goes that retarded logic.

I think you meant the opposite? That is a good point. That is why we never see his teams' record against the WC compared to EC ever posted. Just hype about the West without the numbers because they don't back up the hype. This isn't baseball where teams rarely play the other "conference". In the NBA about two-fifths of games are against the other conference so we have a good sample size of performance versus each conference.


You idiots keep bringing up the talent difference between the conferences, but fail to acknowledge the FACT that LeBron would have more talent if he played in the WC.

I have been saying this for years. Why can't people grasp this simple point?


Half of the league does play in the East, but most of the elite-tier players have played out West during Lebron's career

This is the same guy who said a team that ranked 8th overall in offense would be "below average" among playoff teams. You do the math (even if you assume the 16 playoff teams were the 16 best offenses--not how it works...).

Axe
06-14-2020, 06:01 PM
:roll::roll::roll:
:roll:

Axe
06-14-2020, 06:05 PM
Listen here bucko, we can add up only LeBron's Finals points and he is still top 25 all time. Let that sink in. Eliminate half of LeBron's scoring and he is still top 25
Whatever slick. Just stick to the damn narrative.

Also, i never implied that your favorite idol will never be in the top 25 all time.

Axe
06-14-2020, 06:12 PM
The funny thing about the WC trolling is if LeBron was in the WC instead of the EC that means...he would be on a WC team. :lol People want to transport the Cavs to the WC and ask how they would do. If he starts his career in the WC, he likely does better in the 2000's. Cleveland had an incompetent front office.

Nash, Dirk, Durant, Harden, Curry, Kobe all spearheading perennial WC contenders--but LeBron couldn't do the same or better? :facepalm
The cavs playing in the west? Lmao god this is so dumb if you're evading the main point here. Looks like the whore obsession in debating has affected your damn mind severely.

It was only brought up because it would seem unlikely that he and any team he's in the west would make 8-straight finals like he did in the east because obviously, there's tougher competition due to perennial playoff contenders.

It's not because he can never lead any western teams to a playoff appearance at all.

light
06-14-2020, 06:24 PM
Tim Duncan retired in 2015-16, right?

The Spurs won 61 games in 2016-17.

That's all. Carry on.

Duncan21formvp
06-21-2020, 08:24 PM
Tim Duncan retired in 2015-16, right?

The Spurs won 61 games in 2016-17.

That's all. Carry on.

USA won gold medal in 2000, won bronze medal in 2004 and 2006 with Lebron. Carry on.
Duncan also smoked Lebron in the finals as a old guy. :oldlol:

deathawaitu
06-22-2020, 01:17 PM
Tim Duncan retired in 2015-16, right?

The Spurs won 61 games in 2016-17.

That's all. Carry on.

Where are the spurs now after Duncan retire? Have they won a chip?

That's all. Carry on

Axe
06-22-2020, 08:43 PM
Where are the spurs now after Duncan retire? Have they won a chip?

That's all. Carry on
It's a team that won more than 60 games without the aid of their best perennial player which they lost in retirement. :oldlol:

Kgisbigticket21
06-23-2020, 12:28 AM
Durant in 2014, 2017 and 2018, Lebron Everything else

Axe
06-23-2020, 04:06 AM
Durant in 2014, 2017 and 2018, Lebron Everything else
The op talked about durant? 🥴

aj1987
07-29-2020, 07:11 AM
I think you meant the opposite? That is a good point. That is why we never see his teams' record against the WC compared to EC ever posted. Just hype about the West without the numbers because they don't back up the hype. This isn't baseball where teams rarely play the other "conference". In the NBA about two-fifths of games are against the other conference so we have a good sample size of performance versus each conference.
I did. My bad.




I have been saying this for years. Why can't people grasp this simple point?
It goes completely against their agenda. :roll:

kawhileonard2
02-23-2022, 11:51 PM
Duncan as he stayed for original franchise and won 5 titles while Lebron only won 1.

kawhileonard2
02-23-2022, 11:52 PM
An old Duncan beat a peak Lebron. Think about that for a second.

Airupthere
02-24-2022, 01:18 AM
Duncan knows how to create and sustain a winning culture in a team. A teamhopper and colluder should not be mentioned in the same breath.

Spurs m8
02-24-2022, 01:23 AM
Duncan knows how to create and sustain a winning culture in a team. A teamhopper and colluder should not be mentioned in the same breath.

Absolutely.

Face it, LeBron is a loser.

He's nothing without major help from others....and then when the help runs out, he has to run and get new fresh help who are at their peak.

Rinse and repeat.

Full Court
02-24-2022, 08:01 AM
Absolutely.

Face it, LeBron is a loser.

He's nothing without major help from others....and then when the help runs out, he has to run and get new fresh help who are at their peak.

Rinse and repeat.

Nobody's ever won a title without help. The problem with Bronie is he's always tried to take the easiest road possible and get his stats and titles NOW instead of putting in the hard work it takes to build a championship team.

How did it work out for him though?

Oh, that's right. 4/10 -86 :lol

aj1987
03-15-2022, 11:40 AM
Quite easily, LeBron and it's not even close. LeBron is a top 2 GOAT. Duncan is ~7.

kawhileonard2
03-30-2022, 11:40 PM
Quite easily, LeBron and it's not even close. LeBron is a top 2 GOAT. Duncan is ~7.

How so? Duncan destroyed Lebron with equal teams.

Baller789
03-31-2022, 03:36 AM
How so? Duncan destroyed Lebron with equal teams.

Don't forget, it was also a past prime Duncan. Which makes it worse for Lebron.

Spurs m8
03-31-2022, 04:10 AM
Don't forget, it was also a past prime Duncan. Which makes it worse for Lebron.

A way past prime Duncan with past prime Manu and Tony...all well in their 30s...Duncan approaching 40.

With a 22 year old role player who had never done anything significant.

Destroyed LeBarrys superteam, by the largest average winning margin in finals history.
In a gentleman's sweep.

My god LeBarry has been humiliated so many times :roll::roll::roll:

Spurs m8
03-31-2022, 04:12 AM
BTW...I'm still taking Duncan

10/10 leader
Plays to win, not stat pad
Team first guy
Loyal
Defensive anchor
Locker room dream
Plays both ends of floor
No ego
No passive aggressiveness
No cancer
Respected (unlike someone else)

The list goes on...

Baller789
03-31-2022, 04:50 AM
BTW...I'm still taking Duncan

10/10 leader
Plays to win, not stat pad
Team first guy
Loyal
Defensive anchor
Locker room dream
Plays both ends of floor
No ego
No passive aggressiveness
No cancer
Respected (unlike someone else)

The list goes on...

Don't forget... Guaranteed playoff teams in the tougher conference every single year.

And wouldn't undermine his coach.

Spurs m8
03-31-2022, 04:57 AM
Don't forget... Guaranteed playoff teams in the tougher conference every single year.

And wouldn't undermine his coach.

:applause:

John8204
03-31-2022, 05:31 AM
Y'know Lebron of the seven "superstars" he's "colluded" with only one of them was on a winning team (Wade). Duncan was in a better situation, Lebron is the better player

Walk on Water
03-31-2022, 06:31 AM
Quite easily, LeBron and it's not even close. LeBron is a top 2 GOAT. Duncan is ~7.


Only on the surface. If the question is who is better for winning, it's Duncan. I have Duncan above Lebron on my all time list. Lebron isn't 2 cuz he isn't above Chamberlain or Kareem. I still have Kobe and Bird above Lebron. Shaq too.

Airupthere
03-31-2022, 09:58 AM
BTW...I'm still taking Duncan

10/10 leader
Plays to win, not stat pad
Team first guy
Loyal
Defensive anchor
Locker room dream
Plays both ends of floor
No ego
No passive aggressiveness
No cancer
Respected (unlike someone else)

The list goes on...

TD played for the same franchise, did not supercollude, played with different lineups without the collusion part, and was able to keep the spurs winning/competitive throughout his career.

He did not force narratives or had teammates traded. He did not seek too much attention to himself. And yes, biggest of all, he is RESPECTED without the need to ask for it. One of the most fulfilling careers one can have.

GimmeThat
03-31-2022, 10:02 AM
it's wrong to not let an immigrant be eligible for the presidency

Baller789
03-31-2022, 11:23 PM
Y'know Lebron of the seven "superstars" he's "colluded" with only one of them was on a winning team (Wade). Duncan was in a better situation, Lebron is the better player
B!tch please.
Lebron would have ran Popovich out of San Antonio :roll:.
Then jumped ship after a few years himself.

Spurs m8
04-01-2022, 02:35 AM
TD played for the same franchise, did not supercollude, played with different lineups without the collusion part, and was able to keep the spurs winning/competitive throughout his career.

He did not force narratives or had teammates traded. He did not seek too much attention to himself. And yes, biggest of all, he is RESPECTED without the need to ask for it. One of the most fulfilling careers one can have.

:applause:

John8204
04-01-2022, 05:02 AM
B!tch please.
Lebron would have ran Popovich out of San Antonio :roll:.
Then jumped ship after a few years himself.

If we're talking all-time rankings, Duncan had better talent

1. Kawhi Leonard
2. David Robinson
3. Dwayne Wade
4. Tony Parker
5. Kyrie Irving
6. Anthony Davis
7. Manu Ginobili
8. Chris Bosh
9. Kevin Love

Then again I don't spend every day coming up with reasons to bash Lebron. I think Lebron is a perfectly fine player, he's one of the greats of all-time

kawhileonard2
04-01-2022, 09:03 PM
If we're talking all-time rankings, Duncan had better talent

1. Kawhi Leonard
2. David Robinson
3. Dwayne Wade
4. Tony Parker
5. Kyrie Irving
6. Anthony Davis
7. Manu Ginobili
8. Chris Bosh
9. Kevin Love

Then again I don't spend every day coming up with reasons to bash Lebron. I think Lebron is a perfectly fine player, he's one of the greats of all-time

Lebron played with Shaq as well.

John8204
04-01-2022, 10:12 PM
Lebron played with Shaq as well.

And Duncan played with Tracy McGrady but we're talking about serious teammates

kawhileonard2
04-01-2022, 11:45 PM
And Duncan played with Tracy McGrady but we're talking about serious teammates

Lebron played with Shaq when Shaq had 3 finals mvp's and league mvp and won allstar game mvp the season before and was a starter.

SouBeachTalents
04-01-2022, 11:47 PM
And Duncan played with Tracy McGrady but we're talking about serious teammates
Damn, that means LeBron beat Duncan with McGrady, Kawhi, Manu & Parker.

John8204
04-02-2022, 07:23 PM
Lebron played with Shaq when Shaq had 3 finals mvp's and league mvp and won allstar game mvp the season before and was a starter.

Lebron played with a 37 year old Shaq in his 19th season when he was averaging 12 PPG and only 20 minutes per game.

rmt
04-02-2022, 07:41 PM
Damn, that means LeBron beat Duncan with McGrady, Kawhi, Manu & Parker.

McGrady and his 14 minutes played the entire 7 game series.

Baller789
04-03-2022, 05:18 AM
If we're talking all-time rankings, Duncan had better talent

1. Kawhi Leonard
2. David Robinson
3. Dwayne Wade
4. Tony Parker
5. Kyrie Irving
6. Anthony Davis
7. Manu Ginobili
8. Chris Bosh
9. Kevin Love

Then again I don't spend every day coming up with reasons to bash Lebron. I think Lebron is a perfectly fine player, he's one of the greats of all-time


The thought of Lebron having Pop as a coach longterm is hilarious.

In which you as expected completely avoided.

:lol

John8204
04-03-2022, 05:38 AM
The thought of Lebron having Pop as a coach longterm is hilarious.

In which you as expected completely avoided.

:lol

I think Pop would have been a better influence on him than the Dan Gilbert. I think that's what turned Lebron into the player that he is. Lebron has to play the role of GM with most of his teams because of the situations he's been in.

Spurs m8
04-03-2022, 05:45 AM
Still taking TD

rmt
04-03-2022, 10:09 AM
The thought of Lebron having Pop as a coach longterm is hilarious.

In which you as expected completely avoided.

:lol

Lebron probably wouldn't have had the patience to wait for Pop to develop as a coach (or Parker and Manu as players or for that matter Kawhi).

Bronbron23
04-03-2022, 11:00 AM
Duncan, 2-1 record vs Lebron in the finals, 1 sweep series and 1 greatest ragdoll in sports history.

Who ranks higher in the ATG?

Lebron is better all time because of his resume but duncan might have more impact when you consider both ends. His ability to dominate a game without dominating the ball is also an advantage

Baller789
04-03-2022, 09:32 PM
I think Pop would have been a better influence on him than the Dan Gilbert. I think that's what turned Lebron into the player that he is. Lebron has to play the role of GM with most of his teams because of the situations he's been in.

:roll:

You could give Lebron Phil Jackson, he would still run his @$$ out of town.

It's engrained in him.

Yeah he would have also traded young Parker, Manu and Kawhii for ready made vets. Then left them cold once the core got injured or old.

:roll:

Nilocon165
04-03-2022, 09:43 PM
LeBron James

Lebron23
04-03-2022, 11:15 PM
LeBron James

This

aj1987
04-06-2022, 06:38 PM
Only on the surface. If the question is who is better for winning, it's Duncan. I have Duncan above Lebron on my all time list. Lebron isn't 2 cuz he isn't above Chamberlain or Kareem. I still have Kobe and Bird above Lebron. Shaq too.

Well, you're retarded, so it's not really surprising. :cheers:


How so? Duncan destroyed Lebron with equal teams.

Except for the FACT that Duncan ALWAYS had better teams. What would your retarded ass have said if LeBron lost to the #8 seed as the #1 seed?

I'll wait.

kawhileonard2
04-09-2022, 12:39 PM
Well, you're retarded, so it's not really surprising. :cheers:



Except for the FACT that Duncan ALWAYS had better teams. What would your retarded ass have said if LeBron lost to the #8 seed as the #1 seed?

I'll wait.

He won bronze medals twice to teams worse than the 8 seed.

Baller789
04-09-2022, 11:09 PM
He won bronze medals twice to teams worse than the 8 seed.

:roll:

Lebron also had the benefit of team hopping.

Yet still won only less than half his finals appearances with a dismal 22-33.

Yikes!

GimmeThat
04-09-2022, 11:13 PM
if you take Duncan's side, you're just never gonna have an orgasm even from gay sex

kawhileonard2
04-09-2022, 11:22 PM
Please stick with basketball dude.

Baller789
04-10-2022, 07:02 AM
Please stick with basketball dude.

Yeah he posts like a high drug addict sometimes.

aj1987
04-17-2022, 06:06 AM
He won bronze medals twice to teams worse than the 8 seed.

Duncan was on that team, you know that, right? A team on which LeBron played like 5 or 6 MPG.


Why am I even trying to reason with your dumbass? :facepalm

Baller789
04-17-2022, 07:50 AM
Duncan was on that team, you know that, right? A team on which LeBron played like 5 or 6 MPG.


Why am I even trying to reason with your dumbass? :facepalm

You mean to say Lebron was a role player for team USA?

aj1987
04-26-2022, 11:22 AM
You mean to say Lebron was a role player for team USA?

Yeah, a 18 year old kid who just finished high school was a sidekick to NBA MVP's and All-Stars.

LeGoat4Life
04-26-2022, 11:54 AM
Duncan is top 8 all time

Lebron is the general consensus top 15

Not even close

red1
04-26-2022, 11:55 AM
man someone get these stupid duncan stans outta here. that ship sailed the year after kobe's.