ONE title for Luka with Dallas without ever leaving puts him ahead of Bran all time..

[stalkerforlife]

The first two seasons is not even a comparison.

Luka blasts him.

If he never team hops and wins ONE title with Dallas, he's ahead of LeBron all time.

Just that quick.

[Bronbron23]

The first two seasons is not even a comparison.

Luka blasts him.

If he never team hops and wins ONE title with Dallas, he's ahead of LeBron all time.

Just that quick. except he'll probably never win one. Dallas isn't beating the clippers anytime soon and once kawhi starts declining a year or two from now Greek will be entertaining his prime and dominate the league for 6 or 7 years. Maybe Luka gets a chip later in his career but I dought it.

[MrFonzworth]

One title alone isn't putting anybody into the indubitable top 3. Sorry.

[SpaceJam]

If that's the bar to pass Bron, Doncic just gonna need a single MVP to surpass Kobe

[BasedTom]

dallas are just a shit organisation. i'd be shocked if they ever find themselves able to surround him with a cast as good as the classic nash-finley-dirk era mavs. it looks like they're content with wasting away MVP calibre talent

If he were to play on a real team I could easily see him being this generation's dominant champion

[stalkerforlife]

One title alone isn't putting anybody into the indubitable top 3. Sorry.

He doesn't need to be top three to surpass LeBron.

Regardless of the script you want to portray, LeBron team hopped his way into titles in his prime with multiple established stars. And one of those inorganic titles included the suspension of the best player in the finals up until that point. (Never happened in NBA history)

LeBron never won organically.

You can't rewrite history nor pretend it doesn't exist.

Basketball aficionados simply don't care about collusion titles.

Chasing rings has always been for aging veterans, not prime stars.

[stalkerforlife]

If that's the bar to pass Bron, Doncic just gonna need a single MVP to surpass Kobe

I don't care if Luka passes Kobe and I hope he does.

Your insecurity is evident.

Kobe won with his original team and he won a lot.

It'll take more than one for Luka to surpass him, but I hope he does.

[SpaceJam]

I don't care if Luka passes Kobe and I hope he does.

Your insecurity is evident.

Kobe won with his original team and he won a lot.

It'll take more than one for Luka to surpass him, but I hope he does.

Original? Drafted by Charlotte and held em hostage till he was traded to the Lakers

[Lebron23]

I don't care if Luka passes Kobe and I hope he does.

Your insecurity is evident.

Kobe won with his original team and he won a lot.

It'll take more than one for Luka to surpass him, but I hope he does.
You are Luko in Tagalog it means you are crazy.

[iamgine]

OP is allowed to have an opinion :confusedshrug:

[egokiller]

He doesn't need to be top three to surpass LeBron.

Regardless of the script you want to portray, LeBron team hopped his way into titles in his prime with multiple established stars. And one of those inorganic titles included the suspension of the best player in the finals up until that point. (Never happened in NBA history)

LeBron never won organically.

You can't rewrite history nor pretend it doesn't exist.

Basketball aficionados simply don't care about collusion titles.

Chasing rings has always been for aging veterans, not prime stars.

Not to mention that he could just as easily have 2 less FMVP if not for Kyire and Allen's shots. After all, he did have his FMVP's taken away from him by guys like Iggy, Parker, Kawhi.... so having a heavy reliance on teammates to make some of the greatest shots of all time really does shine a light on the FMVPs that he does have. Add to the fact that he can't make a go ahead shot in the finals and really what your left with is not a top 3 player all time by any means since there's so much controversy around his FMVP awards.

[stalkerforlife]

Not to mention that he could just as easily have 2 less FMVP if not for Kyire and Allen's shots. After all, he did have his FMVP's taken away from him by guys like Iggy, Parker, Kawhi.... so having a heavy reliance on teammates to make some of the greatest shots of all time really does shine a light on the FMVPs that he does have. Add to the fact that he can't make a go ahead shot in the finals and really what your left with is not a top 3 player all time by any means since there's so much controversy around his FMVP awards.

Well said.

[Andrei89]

Not to mention that he could just as easily have 2 less FMVP if not for Kyire and Allen's shots. After all, he did have his FMVP's taken away from him by guys like Iggy, Parker, Kawhi.... so having a heavy reliance on teammates to make some of the greatest shots of all time really does shine a light on the FMVPs that he does have. Add to the fact that he can't make a go ahead shot in the finals and really what your left with is not a top 3 player all time by any means since there's so much controversy around his FMVP awards.

Meltdown:lol

[ImKobe]

Luka's already way ahead of Lebron if you look at their first two seasons. One title run in the Wild Wild West equals to 3 in the LEast.

[aj1987]

Luka's already way ahead of Lebron if you look at their first two seasons. One title run in the Wild Wild West equals to 3 in the LEast.
That's cute. That's probably why Brick shot ~45% in the WC and then 40.5% in the Finals against EC teams.

To answer OP, one title isn't enough to put Luka into the top 3. He needs, at the least, 4+ MVP's, 3+ FMVP's, 10+ All-NBA, 5+ All-Def.

[ImKobe]

That's cute. That's probably why Brick shot ~45% in the WC and then 40.5% in the Finals against EC teams.

To answer OP, one title isn't enough to put Luka into the top 3. He needs, at the least, 4+ MVP's, 3+ FMVP's, 10+ All-NBA, 5+ All-Def.

Because beating Duncan and Pop is the same as beating the likes of Paul George and Demar Derozan to reach the Finals :roll: oh wow an injured IT-led Celtics squad in the ECF :roll: Celtics without Kyrie led by a rookie in his last ECF :roll: Victor Oladipo takes him to 7 games :roll:

[aj1987]

Because beating Duncan and Pop is the same as beating the likes of Paul George and Demar Derozan to reach the Finals :roll: oh wow an injured IT-led Celtics squad in the ECF :roll: Celtics without Kyrie led by a rookie in his last ECF :roll: Victor Oladipo takes him to 7 games :roll:
What a meltdown. I bet you brick turds are feeling suicidal right now.

Lets not forget that when Brick had rosters as bad as LeBron's '18 of 1st stint Cleveland rosters, dude was either in the lottery or getting spanked in the first round.

[ImKobe]

What a meltdown. I bet you brick turds are feeling suicidal right now.

Lets not forget that when Brick had rosters as bad as LeBron's '18 of 1st stint Cleveland rosters, dude was either in the lottery or getting spanked in the first round.

2018 Cavs? an all-star big man with decent depth? Kobe went to 3 straight Finals and won 2 with that roster.

[Lebron6]

2018 Cavs? an all-star big man with decent depth? Kobe went to 3 straight Finals and won 2 with that roster.
Shut yo ass up. Brick stan. :rockon:

[aj1987]

2018 Cavs? an all-star big man with decent depth? Kobe went to 3 straight Finals and won 2 with that roster.
How many games did Kobe win with Caron and Odom?

[ImKobe]

How many games did Kobe win with Caron and Odom?

Were Caron or Odom all-stars in 2005? Did he have an all-star big man in 2005? No? Depth? No?

[Lebron6]

Were Caron or Odom all-stars in 2005? Did he have an all-star big man in 2005? No? Depth? No?
Hey brick stan, that's why LeBron the 2nd GOAT. No player in NBA history can carry a team unlike LeBron. No one. 14be sucks. :( Brick.

[aj1987]

Were Caron or Odom all-stars in 2005? Did he have an all-star big man in 2005? No? Depth? No?
You literally just said that the EC is garbage, so it be east to make the ASG from the East, right? Try to stay consistent.

LeBron won a title with ZERO All-Stars, ZERO All-NBA, and ZERO All-Def teammates. Lets continue this conversation when Brick wins a title with that level of help.

[stalkerforlife]

You literally just said that the EC is garbage, so it be east to make the ASG from the East, right? Try to stay consistent.

LeBron won a title with ZERO All-Stars, ZERO All-NBA, and ZERO All-Def teammates. Lets continue this conversation when Brick wins a title with that level of help.

That's a damn lie.

[ImKobe]

You literally just said that the EC is garbage, so it be east to make the ASG from the East, right? Try to stay consistent.

LeBron won a title with ZERO All-Stars, ZERO All-NBA, and ZERO All-Def teammates. Lets continue this conversation when Brick wins a title with that level of help.

Oh please, he won a title with his 2nd option scoring 41 on the road in elimination and hitting the series-winning shot in Game 7 after being bailed out by injuries and a suspension. Can you please tell me when Gasol cracked 30 points past the 2nd round of the Playoffs?

Irving averaged 25 ppg to Lebron's 26 for the 2016 Playoffs, actually averaged more points per minute.

[bigkingsfan]

LeBron won a title with ZERO All-Stars, ZERO All-NBA, and ZERO All-Def teammates. Lets continue this conversation when Brick wins a title with that level of help.
:banana:

[Keno]

one winning season and Luka surpasses Kobe all time, be careful what you wish for.

[Gileraracer]

current Doncic on teams with that much help:

Shaq
Ray Allen
Dwyane Wade
Chris Bosh
Kyrie Irving
Kevin Love
Ben Wallace
Anthony Davis
Dwight Howard
Demarcus Cousins
Jerry Stackhouse
Mike Bibby
Rajon Rondo
Carlos Boozer
Antawn Jamison
Shawn Marion
Deron Williams
Derrick Rose
Adam Silver



Easily 5 rings.

[ralph_i_el]

dallas are just a shit organisation. i'd be shocked if they ever find themselves able to surround him with a cast as good as the classic nash-finley-dirk era mavs. it looks like they're content with wasting away MVP calibre talent

If he were to play on a real team I could easily see him being this generation's dominant champion

Dallas put together a championship roster in 2011

[Poetry]

Greek will be entertaining his prime and dominate the league for 6 or 7 years. Maybe Luka gets a chip later in his career but I dought it.

In 6 or 7 years, Luka will be around 27/28-years-old. Most players seem to peak around 27-28. Giannis will be around 31/32-years-old.

As long as Luka stays healthy and has a good team around him, he'll have a good chance at being a contender for years.

[aj1987]

Oh please, he won a title with his 2nd option scoring 41 on the road in elimination and hitting the series-winning shot in Game 7 after being bailed out by injuries and a suspension. Can you please tell me when Gasol cracked 30 points past the 2nd round of the Playoffs?
Can you tell me when Rapebe went up against the reigning unanimous MVP on a 73 win team, while he was on a 50 something win team and beat them? Oh, and also let him lead both team in every major statistical category.


Irving averaged 25 ppg to Lebron's 26 for the 2016 Playoffs, actually averaged more points per minute.
Yeah, because he averaged more shots per game, you autistic ****. Lets also ignore rebounding, playmaking, and defense. Retard.