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PeroAntic
11-20-2019, 02:03 PM
The formula is simple. He needs to model his game on Blake Griffin. Use his strength, ball handling skill and footwork to bully his way to the basket. other than that handoffs, hard screens and roll hard or pop from the three point line. But he needs to get constant touches, because he's ineffective when he gets cold. The occasional long two jumper is fine as long as the primary strategy is this.

Blake played like this in his last years with a ball dominant pg in CP3, so Melo should be able to do that with Lillard.
LAmbruh
11-20-2019, 02:15 PM
pathetic
HoopologyPhD
11-20-2019, 02:21 PM
Blake Griffen has always been in great shape, Carmelo has always been fat.
keep-itreal
11-20-2019, 02:23 PM
Carmelo was never great
theballerFKA Ace
11-20-2019, 02:34 PM
Carmelo was never great

There was a few years in Denver where he was probably the clutchest player in the league. And on the Olympic teams, he was just as valuable as Lebron, Kobe and Wade, just more clutch. I agree he's been washed up for a while and plays really ugly basketball now but he had a life before NY, you just might be too young to remember it.
keep-itreal
11-20-2019, 02:40 PM
There was a few years in Denver where he was probably the clutchest player in the league. And on the Olympic teams, he was just as valuable as Lebron, Kobe and Wade, just more clutch. I agree he's been washed up for a while and plays really ugly basketball now but he had a life before NY, you just might be too young to remember it.

Nope. I've been watching NBA since 2004. I watched the entire Lakers VS Nuggets WCF series
Haymaker
11-20-2019, 02:54 PM
Melo needs to focus on three things:

1) Spot up 3 point shooting to spread the flood for Lillard and McCollum to drive in.

2) Defend his man effectively and be serviceable in help defense.

3) Forget about his patented contested long twos.
Real Men Wear Green
11-20-2019, 03:06 PM
The formula is simple. He needs to model his game on Blake Griffin. Use his strength, ball handling skill and footwork to bully his way to the basket. other than that handoffs, hard screens and roll hard or pop from the three point line. But he needs to get constant touches, because he's ineffective when he gets cold. The occasional long two jumper is fine as long as the primary strategy is this.

Blake played like this in his last years with a ball dominant pg in CP3, so Melo should be able to do that with Lillard.On the one hand I don't think they should redo the offense just for his sake. But on the other if they didn't bring him in to score then the signing makes no sense. So I'm going to say you kind of have a point.
keep-itreal
11-20-2019, 03:12 PM
Melo needs to focus on three things:

1) Spot up 3 point shooting to spread the flood for Lillard and McCollum to drive in.

2) Defend his man effectively and be serviceable in help defense.

3) Forget about his patented contested long twos.

He has never been able to do all 3 of those things throughout his entire NBA career
PeroAntic
11-20-2019, 03:43 PM
Blake Griffen has always been in great shape, Carmelo has always been fat.
Melo has great strength, but he hasn't been using it in the last few seasons. Get him to play Blake ball at the 4, and the Blazers can turn the season around.
tontoz
11-20-2019, 04:24 PM
Again? :oldlol:
Patrick Chewing
11-20-2019, 04:40 PM
The last time Carmelo was great.


https://damitaro.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/carmeloonground.jpg
superduper
11-20-2019, 05:26 PM
This is funny because there is a video out there of Melo telling and teaching Blake how to add midrange to his game back when Blake couldn't shoot
keep-itreal
11-20-2019, 05:30 PM
The last time Carmelo was great.


https://damitaro.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/carmeloonground.jpg
:roll:
HoopologyPhD
11-20-2019, 06:12 PM
Melo has great strength, but he hasn't been using it in the last few seasons. Get him to play Blake ball at the 4, and the Blazers can turn the season around.

I agree that Melo has incredible natural strength compared to most NBA players and his first step and quickness are still very good. Given the chance, he can play the post better than most big men.

However, you need to have an excellent level of stamina and conditioning to play in the modern NBA and these things have never been a strong suit of Melo. He needs to be in great shape now more than ever, but is still as fat as ever.

Smart players like Duncan and Love knew that they needed to change their game and body types to extend their careers...
red1
11-20-2019, 06:16 PM
melo is done. he never believed in defense in his prime and now that he is old and fat he's finished.


what good is a scorer who can't hit the ocean with a ball. not to mention a fat old scorer like marshmelo.
PeroAntic
11-20-2019, 06:38 PM
I agree that Melo has incredible natural strength compared to most NBA players and his first step and quickness are still very good. Given the chance, he can play the post better than most big men.

However, you need to have an excellent level of stamina and conditioning to play in the modern NBA and these things have never been a strong suit of Melo. He needs to be in great shape now more than ever, but is still as fat as ever.

Smart players like Duncan and Love knew that they needed to change their game and body types to extend their careers...
We will see. He looked in a good shape last night to me. For OKC and Houston he was indeed fat, but he seems leaner now
tanibanana
11-20-2019, 09:05 PM
Carmelo was never great

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
ME: Not even a Carmelo fan
Smoke117
11-20-2019, 09:11 PM
Carmelo hasn't had any kind of efficiency since 2014. His last 3 seasons on the Knicks he was just a high volume scorer who had to chuck up a lot of shots to get his points. We are far removed from even those days. No team is running any kind of offense through Carmelo. You'd had to be an absolute nutcase to do that. "Use Carmelo the right way"...there is no right way to use Carmelo anymore. He's not going to give you any type good efficient scoring so why would you want to feed him? This is all beside the fact that he holds onto the ball too much whenever he touches it and just bogs down a teams offense. He simply has no place in this league anymore when he has exactly no kind of skillset outside of low efficient volume scoring. He can't defend, he can't playmake, he is useless.
WadeStan
11-20-2019, 10:33 PM
There was a few years in Denver where he was probably the clutchest player in the league. And on the Olympic teams, he was just as valuable as Lebron, Kobe and Wade, just more clutch. I agree he's been washed up for a while and plays really ugly basketball now but he had a life before NY, you just might be too young to remember it.

lol no he wasn't better than Wade, Bean, and LBJ in the '08 Olympics. But yes, the highlight of his underachieving career was at Syracuse and on the international stage.