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3ball

11-24-2019, 12:44 PM

He's a candidate but there's no reason he can't win both.
Didn't you laugh when I said Ingram > 89' Pippen?

Yup you did... So ur not allowed itt.. vacate immediately. You're not allowed to say Ingram's name on this board or any other

I mean, you can, but you shouldn't be able to look yourself in the mirror.. you ignorant fools

DMAVS41

11-24-2019, 12:44 PM

He's literally one of the best players in the league

But many posters who lack the capacity to evaluate talent at an elite level, didn't see it... :facepalm

Nobody questioned his talent though...pretty much everyone universally agreed from the jump that he was super talented.

What people rightly take issue with is when a guy doesn't perform well and yet you somehow have "better than Pippen" shit being thrown around.

STATUTORY

11-24-2019, 12:46 PM

He's literally one of the best players in the league

But many posters who lack the capacity to evaluate talent at an elite level, didn't see it... :facepalm

Stat stans who rely on box scores to evaluate talent are always playing catch up, because stats are simply description of what has already happened and have no predictive power of what will happen.

3ball

11-24-2019, 12:48 PM

Nobody questioned his talent though...pretty much everyone universally agreed from the jump that he was super talented.

What people rightly take issue with is when a guy doesn't perform well and yet you somehow have "better than Pippen" shit being thrown around.
He's way better than 89' Pippen

That's all I said.. and I couldn't have been more right

89' MJ wins the championship with 19/20' Ingram

you guys simply switched what I said to "Ingram > pippen" (omitting the 89' part)

Real Men Wear Green

11-24-2019, 12:50 PM

Didn't you laugh when I said Ingram > 89' Pippen?

Yup you did... So ur not allowed itt.. vacate immediately. You're not allowed to say Ingram's name on this board or any other

I mean, you can, but you shouldn't be able to look yourself in the mirror.. you ignorant foolsI correctly pointed out tthat Ingram's statistics at 22 are better than Jordan's at 22. And they still are. So if you can say he's better than Pip why can't I say he's better than Jordan?

Not sure what you are telling me to do with the "itt vacate" business. Maybe you need some sleep? Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

3ball

11-24-2019, 12:50 PM

Stat stans who rely on box scores to evaluate talent are always playing catch up, because stats are simply description of what has already happened and have no predictive power of what will happen.
There's nothing any version of pippen does better offensively than 19/20 ingram

Nothing

Infact, Ingram DESTROYS pippen at every aspect of offense

DMAVS41

11-24-2019, 12:52 PM

He's way better than 89' Pippen

That's all I said.. and I couldn't have been more right

89' MJ wins the championship with 19/20' Ingram

you guys simply switched what I said to "Ingram > pippen" (omitting the 89' part)

Last year he wasn't...which is when you said it.

This year, yea, I agree...MJ probably wins with this Ingram.

But, as usual, I kind of need to and want to see players play in the playoffs...but if Ingram is going to wet 40% plus of his 3's on high volume...then he's a totally different player than even his flashes of greatness we saw in the past.

3ball

11-24-2019, 12:53 PM

I correctly pointed out tthat Ingram's statistics at 22 are better than Jordan's at 22. And they still are. So if you can say he's better than Pip why can't I say he's better than Jordan?

Not sure what you are telling me to do with the "itt vacate" business. Maybe you need some sleep? Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
Ur so shook that you can't type straight

Again, vacate the thread

You don't know shit about basketball just like all the other losers that couldn't see how great Ingram was

Meticode

11-24-2019, 12:55 PM

at this point he has to be the front runner for the MIP :confusedshrug:
Doncic who is almost averaging a triple-double in his second season maybe?

Real Men Wear Green

11-24-2019, 12:57 PM

Ur so shook that you can't type straight

Again, vacate the thread

You don't know shit about basketball just like all the other losers that couldn't see how great Ingram wasWeird, you aren't even trying to make an argument. Kind of unlike you. No wall of text to copy and paste or nothing. Oh well.

coin24

11-24-2019, 01:06 PM

Doncic who is almost averaging a triple-double in his second season maybe?

Donthicc should be in the running for mvp, not mip...

And Ingram always showed potential, just didn't get the chance to put it together in LA, he'd beast for a game or two then go mia and look disinterested.. I think the lakers will regret letting him go

Hey Yo

11-24-2019, 01:07 PM

I correctly pointed out tthat Ingram's statistics at 22 are better than Jordan's at 22. And they still are. So if you can say he's better than Pip why can't I say he's better than Jordan?

Not sure what you are telling me to do with the "itt vacate" business. Maybe you need some sleep? Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
Major slay.....:oldlol:

3ball be like

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warriorfan

11-24-2019, 01:08 PM

Way better than Pippen

dreamshake

11-24-2019, 02:39 PM

Who woulda thought that the best player to come out from the crop of Jason Taytum, Kyle Kuzma and Jaylen Brown is Brandon Ingram.

Eat shit Celtics fans :roll:

Real Men Wear Green

11-24-2019, 02:50 PM

Who woulda thought that the best player to come out from the crop of Jason Taytum, Kyle Kuzma and Jaylen Brown is Brandon Ingram.

Eat shit Celtics fans :roll: For a few years now I have eaten a curried chicken dinner in front of my TV while watching a celtics playoff game. How many playoff games have you seen Ingram? He is a good player but some of you have bought into the stupid idea that we should be jealous when our team's stats have gotten to thr Conference Finals. It's really weird. Bradley Beal is a better player than Jaylen Brown but I can't recall Wizards fans trying to talk, but here you are, bragging on another season that is sure to end with a lottery pick.

zeerghit

11-24-2019, 02:54 PM

ImKobe

11-24-2019, 02:54 PM

Who woulda thought that the best player to come out from the crop of Jason Taytum, Kyle Kuzma and Jaylen Brown is Brandon Ingram.

Eat shit Celtics fans :roll:

I don't know about you but Laker fans knew that BI was was the best of the bunch. Tatum and Kuzma are nice scorers but BI was always the better mid-range shooter and he was actually effective when we played him at PG due to all the injuries in the 2017-18 season, he always had the higher ceiling due to his build and what he could already do, the 3-point shot has completely unlocked his game.

theballerFKA Ace

11-24-2019, 03:05 PM

I don't know about you but Laker fans knew that BI was was the best of the bunch. Tatum and Kuzma are nice scorers but BI was always the better mid-range shooter and he was actually effective when we played him at PG due to all the injuries in the 2017-18 season, he always had the higher ceiling due to his build and what he could already do, the 3-point shot has completely unlocked his game.

Exactly. They were all pretty close at first but none of them had BI's physical gifts so you knew he'd eventually come out on top as time went by. BI's standing reach is higher than AD's and he can handle the rock like a guard. It seemed pretty obvious to me when everyone was saying Tatum and Kuzma, even Brown would have better careers.

elementally morale

11-24-2019, 03:32 PM

Exactly. They were all pretty close at first but none of them had BI's physical gifts so you knew he'd eventually come out on top as time went by. BI's standing reach is higher than AD's and he can handle the rock like a guard. It seemed pretty obvious to me when everyone was saying Tatum and Kuzma, even Brown would have better careers.

I was among the few who said Kuzma would be better than Ingram. I'd still wait and see. Everyone knew Ingram had more natural talent and he had some nice strings of games in the past. He could never keep it up. The question was always his head not his talent. Kuzma has been underwhelming this year. Part of it is injury, party of it is little playing time, part of it is him getting hits in consecutive games... part of it may be he won't be as good as I thought he would.

But I'd wait until at least the all star game. Let's see what happens to both. I remember the time when Blake Griffin was thought to become the brightest star.. better than Tim Duncan... and many such stories that somehow went wrong. So if Ingram indeed becomes a star, I was wrong and good for him. But I feel if roles were reversed... and Ingram played on this Lakers and Kuzma on the Pelicans... we would see a different story.

Time will tell. I was and am a Kuzma supporter... if I'm wrong... I am.

theballerFKA Ace

11-24-2019, 04:06 PM

I was among the few who said Kuzma would be better than Ingram. I'd still wait and see. Everyone knew Ingram had more natural talent and he had some nice strings of games in the past. He could never keep it up. The question was always his head not his talent. Kuzma has been underwhelming this year. Part of it is injury, party of it is little playing time, part of it is him getting hits in consecutive games... part of it may be he won't be as good as I thought he would.

But I'd wait until at least the all star game. Let's see what happens to both. I remember the time when Blake Griffin was thought to become the brightest star.. better than Tim Duncan... and many such stories that somehow went wrong. So if Ingram indeed becomes a star, I was wrong and good for him. But I feel if roles were reversed... and Ingram played on this Lakers and Kuzma on the Pelicans... we would see a different story.

Time will tell. I was and am a Kuzma supporter... if I'm wrong... I am.

When in doubt always go with the guy with the better natural skillset and physical attributes. 75% of the time, it works every time....

Standing reach is always overlooked. Blake's standing reach is the exact same as Kobe Bryant's. He had athleticism but he wasn't long at all, I was pretty sure he wasn't going to an elite HOFer

AirTupac

11-24-2019, 04:11 PM

When in doubt always go with the guy with the better natural skillset and physical attributes. 75% of the time, it works every time....

Standing reach is always overlooked. Blake's standing reach is the exact same as Kobe Bryant's. He had athleticism but he wasn't long at all, I was pretty sure he wasn't going to an elite HOFer

It was obvious as daylight that Blake wasn't going to next big thing. The guy obviously has no eye for fvcking talent if he thinks Kuzma > BI and Blake Griffin was going to be a BIG thing.

elementally morale

11-24-2019, 05:03 PM

It was obvious as daylight that Blake wasn't going to next big thing. The guy obviously has no eye for fvcking talent if he thinks Kuzma > BI and Blake Griffin was going to be a BIG thing.

I never believed in Blake Griffin. Not in Ingram either but for a different reason.

Marchesk

11-24-2019, 05:14 PM

If Ingram is one of the best players in the league, how come his teams have losing records?

AirTupac

11-24-2019, 05:28 PM

If Ingram is one of the best players in the league, how come his teams have losing records?

Its simple if your not a retard. Most of his team has been out and injured:

Jrue
Zion
Redick
Hart
Lonzo

And he's 22. AD went from "EMPTY STATS" to MVP and DPOY candidate when playing for a legit team. STFU you retard

k 96

11-24-2019, 05:52 PM

F#%$ the Lakers, Brandon is making them regret trading him!

Marchesk

11-24-2019, 06:04 PM

And he's 22. AD went from "EMPTY STATS" to MVP and DPOY candidate when playing for a legit team. STFU you retard

Or he's not one of the best players in the league. Since when was Brandan Ingram inn the same conversation as Giannis, Harden, James, Davis, etc?

He's not.

Marchesk

11-24-2019, 06:04 PM

F#%$ the Lakers, Brandon is making them regret trading him!

I'm sure they're full of regret at 14-2.

AirTupac

11-24-2019, 06:05 PM

Or he's not one of the best players in the league. Since when was Brandan Ingram inn the same conversation as Giannis, Harden, James, Davis, etc?

He's not.

IDK many people who said hes in the same conversation with those guys. If i was a betting man, I'd say Ingrams trajectory will be as a top 10 NBA player when hes 25-28. In other words, 22 year old Ingram is averaging 27/7/5 on 54% and 46%. Imagine in 6 years time... he'll be 28.

ImKobe

11-24-2019, 06:08 PM

Or he's not one of the best players in the league. Since when was Brandan Ingram inn the same conversation as Giannis, Harden, James, Davis, etc?

He's not.

How many times did AD make the Playoffs in NO? How good were they with him last season despite his stats?

Ingram's 22 years old... how good was Giannis at 22? He's currently improving at the same rate as him if you look at their first 4 seasons.

Marchesk

11-24-2019, 06:12 PM

IDK many people who said hes in the same conversation with those guys. If i was a betting man, I'd say Ingrams trajectory will be as a top 10 NBA player when hes 25-28. In other words, 22 year old Ingram is averaging 27/7/5 on 54% and 46%. Imagine in 6 years time... he'll be 28.

Maybe so. I wonder if the Pelicans will resign him to a max deal.

AirTupac

11-24-2019, 06:15 PM

How many times did AD make the Playoffs in NO? How good were they with him last season despite his stats?

Ingram's 22 years old... how good was Giannis at 22? He's currently improving at the same rate as him if you look at their first 4 seasons.

Ingram is currently having a better season than 22 year old Giannis and Harden. We'll need to see a bigger sample size but he's been having these statlines for almost a good 50 games now (including last season before his injury).