How many chips if Lebron had Klay/Dray as sidekicks

[3ball]

Dray would be nothing alongside Lebron

and Lebron needs a closer that commands a double-team like Wade/Kyrie, so Klay won't work at #2

Accordingly, I don't think Lebron makes a single Finals with if he replaced Curry

remember, Lebron only beat the West 3/9 times, so he'd only make 3 Finals if he played his career in the West.
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[LAmbruh]

Including Iggy, Barnes, D West, Bogut + Kerr/Brown with LBJ in his prime


They'd be unstoppable


7 chips

[Turbo Slayer]

10 chips max!! :rockon:

[Kiddlovesnets]

Lebron can

[3ball]

Including Iggy, Barnes, D West, Bogut + Kerr/Brown with LBJ in his prime


They'd be unstoppable


7 chips
Who is Kerr?.. A nobody coach.. And he already had a favored 1 seed with Brown but failed

So don't even mention the coaching - nothing to see there

Regarding the other guys - they're all role players that every team has some form of.. Iggy was a 7 ppg bench player that only came back on the radar because he went off on Lebron in 15' - otherwise, his career was long-finished.

Again, how many rings for Lebron with Klay and Dray as sidekicks?... C'mon, you know he doesn't win a damn thing with that kind of support

[tpols]

Including Iggy, Barnes, D West, Bogut + Kerr/Brown with LBJ in his prime


They'd be unstoppable


7 chips


barnes. :roll:



Iggy would suffer from the same problem as dray... poor spacing, ball movement, and lack of ball in hands would render him mediocre at best. The reason dray & iggy were so great was because the two best players on the team chef n klay allowed them to handle and create... while providing GOAT spacing for penetration. Ultimately syncing up for GOAT teamwork and balance.

Bran eliminates the entire dubs dynamic with his style.

Just a cluster**** of hot potato ball handlers and blame would come from it.

[Manny98]

The ultimate off ball player matched with the ultimate on ball player

Klay and LeBron together is like Peanut Butter & Chocolate the perfect combination then you throw in arguably the most versatile Swiss army Knife the league has ever seen in Draymond :eek: that's 7 championships MINIMUM

[3ball]

The ultimate off ball player matched with the ultimate on ball player

Klay and LeBron together is like Peanut Butter & Chocolate the perfect combination then you throw in arguably the most versatile Swiss army Knife the league has ever seen in Draymond :eek: that's 7 championships MINIMUM
Klay would work well with Lebron, but it would be another 2009 with Mo Williams, where Lebron couldn't win until he teamed up with a lethal scorer/closer at #2, aka kyrie/wade...

furthermore, we would never have heard of Draymond if he played with Lebron - he'd be just another player, not the future HOF he was alongside Curry

[SouBeachTalents]

Klay would work well with Lebron, but it would be another 2009 with Mo Williams, where Lebron couldn't win until he teamed up with a lethal scorer/closer at #2, aka kyrie/wade...

furthermore, we would never have heard of Draymond if he played with Lebron - he'd be just another player, not the future HOF he was alongside Curry
Klay absolutely shits on Mo Williams, only a clown would try to claim they were equal

[FKAri]

Are you kidding me? 30-40 at least. I don't see why he'd feel the need to stop winning.

[Bronbron23]

Dray would be nothing alongside Lebron

and Lebron needs a closer that commands a double-team like Wade/Kyrie, so Klay won't work at #2

Accordingly, I don't think Lebron makes a single Finals with if he replaced Curry

remember, Lebron only beat the West 3/9 times, so he'd only make 3 Finals if he played his career in the West.
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If he was playing within the warriors offence about 5 or 6 if he was playing typical Bron ball and dominating the ball maybe 1 or 2

[3ball]

Klay absolutely shits on Mo Williams, only a clown would try to claim they were equal



2010 Mo Williams was better than Klay at 3rd option:

10' MO WILLIAMS......... 0.136 ws.. 2.5 obpm.. 2.2 vorp.. 16.1 PER.. 18/3/4.. 112 ortg
18' KLAY THOMPSON..... 0.094 ws.. 1.8 obpm.. 0.9 vorp.. 16.0 PER.. 20/4/2.. 110 ortg


2009 Mo Williams was equal to Klay at 2nd option:

09' MO WILLIAMS......... 0.165 ws.. 3.0 obpm.. 3.1 vorp.. 17.2 PER.. 18/3/4.. 115 ortg
16' KLAY THOMPSON..... 0.144 ws.. 2.9 obpm.. 1.8 vorp.. 18.6 PER.. 22/5/2.. 112 ortg


2009 Mo Williams destroys 2019 Khris Middleton:

MO WILLIAMS.......... 18/3/5.. 58.8 ts.. 115 ortg.. 17.2 PER.. 0.165 ws.. 2.3 bpm.. 3.1 vorp
KHRIS MIDDLETON... 18/5/3.. 55.5 ts.. 106 ortg.. 16.3 PER.. 0.122 ws.. 0.7 bpm.. 1.6 vorp





Klay absolutely shits on Mo Williams, only a clown would try to claim they were equal


I agreed that Klay would work well with Lebron, but it still would be another 2009 with Mo Williams, where Lebron couldn't win until he teamed up with a lethal scorer/closer at #2, aka kyrie/wade...

furthermore, we would never have heard of Draymond if he played with Lebron - he'd be just another player, not the future HOF he was alongside Curry

[3ball]

Are you kidding me? 30-40 at least. I don't see why he'd feel the need to stop winning.
Because he didn't start winning until he got a cast far different from klay/dray

he needed a lethal-scoring closer at #2, so klay wouldn't work

and he needed a 25 ppg dude at 3rd option to reduce to 15 ppg, so dray didn't have enough offense for bron-ball to reduce (dray was ALREADY a 15 ppg guy, or less)

[AirBonner]

Back to back 3-peat with no retirement in the middle

[SpaceJam2]

Back to back 3-peat with no retirement in the middle

ALSO

Better than 1-9

[FKAri]

Because he didn't start winning until he got a cast far different from klay/dray

he needed a lethal-scoring closer at #2, so klay wouldn't work

and he needed a 25 ppg dude at 3rd option to reduce to 15 ppg, so dray didn't have enough offense for bron-ball to reduce (dray was ALREADY a 15 ppg guy, or less)
You mean he chose to start winning. It's about which teammates put Lebron in the mood of winning. He can be quite moody. Just check out the Old Testament.

[G0ATbe]

We're giving LeBron two prime 2-way all stars + deepest roster in the league? :biggums:
Which is basically what MJ had for his championship runs btw.

LeBrons "superteams" historically have 2 stars and no depth. He's also never had a two way star outside of AD this year. Bron would have the easiest championship runs of his career with this setup:biggums:

[Turbo Slayer]

We're giving LeBron two prime 2-way all stars + deepest roster in the league? :biggums:
Which is basically what MJ had for his championship runs btw.

LeBrons "superteams" historically have 2 stars and no depth. He's also never had a two way star outside of AD this year. Bron would have the easiest championship runs of his career with this setup:biggums:
:applause: this

[hiphopanonymous]

Klay is a spot up shooter so he's actually the perfect Bran ball piece I bet Lebron wished he had 4 Klay's on the floor at any given moment so one of his 50mph bail outs hits a ready shooter when the defense collapses on his football carry

Draymond on the other hand? :roll:

There can only be one player on the ball and Draymond also needs it in order to "be effective" (if you can call what he does, effective). And Lebron also wants that ball so... Not happening. Draymond actually plays a lot like LeBron except he's a far worse shooter and scorer, it's like if you gave LeBron Tristan Thompsons shooting touch. That's pretty much what Draymond is. Those two on the same team would be a very poor performing team. Guaranteed to miss the playoffs entirely.

[superduper]

Klay and Dray are the most over rated players in NBA history.

It's actually quite ridiculous.

[LAmbruh]

barnes. :roll:



Yup, 4th option Matt Barnes


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[3ball]

Yup, 4th option Matt Barnes


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Jamison was far better and we all saw what happened to him

Not to mention HOF's Bosh and Love, who also destroy Barnes but were reduced to rubble next to LeCancer

Barnes is like Kukoc-level player.. a prodigy-turned-underachiever.. another hughes.. another derrick rose failure alongside Lebron... another INGRAM... all these guys are equal or better than Barnes

[Duncan21formvp]

0. He couldn't win with peak Shaq nor Ben Wallace.

[warriorfan]

Dray with LeBronball...ouch...take away his ball handling and relegating him to a spot up shooter makes him a legit worthless player on offense...From a guy who was a competent and successful cog in a historically great offense...who lead all forwards in assists..

Lebron ball takes away strengths of versatile players. They can

[SpaceJam2]

We're giving LeBron two prime 2-way all stars + deepest roster in the league? :biggums:
Which is basically what MJ had for his championship runs btw.

LeBrons "superteams" historically have 2 stars and no depth. He's also never had a two way star outside of AD this year. Bron would have the easiest championship runs of his career with this setup:biggums:

2ez

Another day :hammertime:

Another win :dancin :djparty
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[3ball]

We're giving LeBron two prime 2-way all stars + deepest roster in the league? :biggums:
Which is basically what MJ had for his championship runs btw.


Who were the multiple 2-way stars that MJ had?

Only Lebron had multiple 2-way stars in Wade and Bosh - both were considered elite athletes and good defenders





LeBrons "superteams" historically have 2 stars and no depth. He's also never had a two way star outside of AD this year. Bron would have the easiest championship runs of his career with this setup:biggums:


Lebron's teams were among the top-ranked defenses in the league and often ranked higher than MJ's, due to far superior rim protection than all of MJ's teams, along with more rebounders/bangers and more athletic guards.

[SpaceJam2]

In 2012 Finals LBJ overcame #1 option KD (30.6) and #2 option Goatbrook (27.0) for a combined #1 & #2 option scoring load of 57.6

Much higher than 10.7 ppg

Have we ever seen a bigger FMVP win?

[3ball]

In 2012 Finals LBJ overcame #1 option KD (30.6) and #2 option Goatbrook (27.0) for a combined #1 & #2 option scoring load of 57.6

Much higher than 10.7 ppg

Have we ever seen a bigger FMVP win?
As usual, Lebron's #2 option at the time was either ranked higher all-time (2012), or outplayed the opponent's #1 option (2013, 2016)

So Lebron's casts are stacked like Magic's were because his teammate is always better than the opponent's best player

MJ never played in a Finals where his teammate was ranked higher or outplayed the opponents' best player

[SpaceJam2]

As usual, Lebron's #2 option at the time was either ranked higher all-time (2012), or outplayed the opponent's #1 option (2013, 2016)

So Lebron's casts are stacked like Magic's were because his teammate is always better than the opponent's best player

MJ never played in a Finals where his teammate was ranked higher or outplayed the opponents' best player

2012 LBJ overcame 57.6
1993 MJ overcame 44.4

:(

Another L for you