If MJ was a better playmaker would Pippen have scored more?

[SpaceJam2]

Scottie Pippen totaled more assists among all the playoff runs, more than Jordan.

Pip was a better playmaker of course. If Jordan was a good passer, would Scottie Pippen have been able to score more?

[MaxPlayer]

Scottie Pippen totaled more assists among all the playoff runs, more than Jordan.

Pip was a better playmaker of course. If Jordan was a good passer, would Scottie Pippen have been able to score more?

And would Jordan have scored as much if he wasn't being spoon-fed by a great playmaker?

[SpaceJam2]

And would Jordan have scored as much if he wasn't being spoon-fed by a great playmaker?


Good call MaxPlayer :cheers:

Double whamy :eek:

[3ball]

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Assist Percentage 1991-1993 Playoffs:

Jordan: 31.1%
Pippen: 23.3%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced


Assist Percentage 1996-1998 Playoffs:

Jordan: 22.3%
Pippen: 22.0%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced



MJ led the Bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen and assisted on the most bulls field goals for both 3-peats (shown above)

So MJ carried the Bulls' scoring and led in passing - that's better than lebron sharing the scoring load

[SpaceJam2]

Dont lie

Playoffs

Most
Pts: MJ
Ast: Pip
Reb: Pip
Stl: Pip
Blk: Pip

Next

[superduper]

Hmm, one person sourced and cited his proof.

One is just spewing nonsense 20x a day every single day with zero proof other than nonsense teenage buzzwords and insane levels of insecurity.

Wonder who to believe, the articulate adult or the moronic child :oldlol:

[MaxPlayer]

One is just spewing nonsense 20x a day every single day with zero proof other than nonsense teenage buzzwords and insane levels of insecurity.

Don't be so hard on yourself!

[Bronbron23]

Scottie Pippen totaled more assists among all the playoff runs, more than Jordan.

Pip was a better playmaker of course. If Jordan was a good passer, would Scottie Pippen have been able to score more?
No because that's not how the triangle was set up. It revolved off of passes and cuts off the post. Mj's role wasn't to dominate the ball at all times and be the primary facilitator like LeBron.

Take mj out of the triangle and put him in a ball dominant role like harden, LeBron, Luka or okc Westbrook and he'd have alot more assists and pts. He'd also have less chips though so I'd say it's a fair trade off.

[superduper]

No because that's not how the triangle was set up. It revolved off of passes and cuts off the post. Mj's role wasn't to dominate the ball at all times and be the primary facilitator like LeBron.

Take mj out of the triangle and put him in a ball dominant role like harden, LeBron, Luka or okc Westbrook and he'd have alot more assists and pts. He'd also have less chips though so I'd say it's a fair trade off.

Are you able to convert this to "boxscore stats" because that's all us LeTards understand :(

[Rico2016]

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Assist Percentage 1991-1993 Playoffs:

Jordan: 31.1%
Pippen: 23.3%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced


Assist Percentage 1996-1998 Playoffs:

Jordan: 22.3%
Pippen: 22.0%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced



MJ led the Bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen and assisted on the most bulls field goals for both 3-peats (shown above)

So MJ carried the Bulls' scoring and led in passing - that's better than lebron sharing the scoring load

Why are you doing this?

When comparing their championship run seasons (91, 92, 93 and 96, 97, 98) Pippen did everything more, scoring aside:

https://i.postimg.cc/8C4kvxLC/pip-an-mj-post.jpg

[bizil]

LMAO!!! Before Pippen came of age, MJ put up a 32.5-8dimes-8boards season. Plus had DPOY caliber defense. That's where MJ was elevating his floor game to. Pip was NEVER going to be a great scorer to begin with. It wasn't meant to be. Pip's claim to fame was having one of the great floor games EVER!! Before Bron came along, Pip had the best floor game EVER at the SF position. By that I mean dimes-boards-defense as a package.

So with a floor game like that, MJ could conserve his energy MORE to dominate scoring. He DIDN'T have to be the dominant scorer AND dominant floor game guy for the Bulls to win anymore. Pip was a pass first player WHILE MJ was the ultimate killer! They complemented each other PERFECTLY. Moreso than any other SG-SF tandem in league history!

[juju151111]

Why are you doing this?

When comparing their championship run seasons (91, 92, 93 and 96, 97, 98) Pippen did everything more, scoring aside:

https://i.postimg.cc/8C4kvxLC/pip-an-mj-post.jpg
Do from 89-98

[SpaceJam2]

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Assist Percentage 1991-1993 Playoffs:

Jordan: 31.1%
Pippen: 23.3%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced


Assist Percentage 1996-1998 Playoffs:

Jordan: 22.3%
Pippen: 22.0%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced



MJ led the Bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen and assisted on the most bulls field goals for both 3-peats (shown above)

So MJ carried the Bulls' scoring and led in passing - that's better than lebron sharing the scoring load

This idiot compared ast % per 100 per individual, not MJ vs Pippen :lol

You are a clueless moron

[SpaceJam2]

Why are you doing this?

When comparing their championship run seasons (91, 92, 93 and 96, 97, 98) Pippen did everything more, scoring aside:

https://i.postimg.cc/8C4kvxLC/pip-an-mj-post.jpg

Bingo thanks

I knew he was lying thanks for the backup

[superduper]

Wait... Pippen was this "amazing playmaker" but he had only 20 more assists than Jordan? :biggums:

I've seen enough Jordan's the GOAT

[Elosha]

Scottie Pippen totaled more assists among all the playoff runs, more than Jordan.

Pip was a better playmaker of course. If Jordan was a good passer, would Scottie Pippen have been able to score more?

I don't know, if LeBron was a good winner, could he possibly be better than 3/9, not have to team hop with new stars, and fail to even make the playoffs when he doesn't have a star? Food for thought...

[superduper]

I don't know, if LeBron was a good winner, could he possibly be better than 3/9, not have to team hop with new stars, and fail to even make the playoffs when he doesn't have a star? Food for thought...

Boom boom and boom.

[LostCause]

You guys respect Ben Taylor’s analysis right? He has Jordan literally right there with LeBron for best playmakers of all time


https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/clbto5/thinking_basketball_top_10_playmakers_of_all_time/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

So not only was he a much better playmaker than Pippen, he’s arguably right there with your hero

[3ball]

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MJ assisted on the biggest proportion of Bulls field goals for both 3-peats:


Assist Percentage 1991-1993 Playoffs:

Jordan: 31.1%
Pippen: 23.3%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced


Assist Percentage 1996-1998 Playoffs:

Jordan: 22.3%
Pippen: 22.0%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced



MJ led the Bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen and assisted on the most bulls field goals for both 3-peats (shown above)

So MJ carried the Bulls' scoring and led in passing, while Lebron only led in passing

Ultimately, MJ carried the scoring load and Lebron didn't - and scoring is the most important category, so MJ >>>