So wait... Why didn't Lebron make the playoffs in 04', 05' or 19' again?

[3ball]

He wasn't too old, aka 40 years old like Wizards' MJ - Lebron was an elite athlete for each of the 3 years he missed the playoffs.

And those 3 teams were all lottery teams the prior year - so Lebron couldn't carry a lottery team to the playoffs - he only made the playoffs with good teams/high seeds that were seasoned for several years via roster additions and coaching changes (2006), and therefore his carrying ability with truly bad teams is overrated (he missed playoffs with the bad teams)... Tell me how I'm wrong

Sure he won 66 with Mo Williams, but Mo was added to a high seed that was already one of the best teams in the East... and Dirk won 67 with no cast in the West, so that's better than Lebron's 2009 anyway.. Ultimately, good win totals in the regular season don't mean the team was carried - it means the team was good (talent-wise and/or brand) relative to the other teams in the league.

And btw, Lebron's record when he played was only .500 for all 3 lottery seasons (lottery level), so I don't want to hear shit like "38 wins wasn't good enough to make the playoffs like MJ did" - Lebron simply gets lottery-level wins with bad teams just like any other great player did, hence him with lottery-level results in those 3 years - every other year he had a good team/high seed.

Essentially, Lebron never had a bad team/low seed in the playoffs, so he never faced the 8 vs 1 matchup like MJ, who was good enough to carry lottery teams to the playoffs and therefore faced underdog matchups in the 1st Round (Lebron's high seeds were always favored in the 1st Rd)
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[1987_Lakers]

You need some serious counseling.

[AussieSteve]

Mate. Give it a rest.

He was a kid in 04, and he was injured last year. This is known. No one thinks twice about it. Except you.

[3ball]

Mate. Give it a rest.

He was a kid in 04, and he was injured last year. This is known. No one thinks twice about it. Except you.
Lebron's record when he played was only .500 for all 3 lottery seasons (lottery level record)

so Lebron simply gets lottery-level wins with bad teams just like any other great player did, hence him with lottery-level results in those 3 years - every other year he had a good team/high seed and therefore wasn't carrying a goddamm thing.. the times he actually had to carry a bad team, he missed the playoffs.

[IllegalD]

Mate. Give it a rest.

He was a kid in 04, and he was injured last year. This is known. No one thinks twice about it. Except you.


Funny. Kobe and Odom were injured in 05 yet I always hear insecure Bronsexuals bring up Kobe missing the playoffs in 2005 as a major point in the "He's not as good as LeBron" discussions.

Funny how all that changes when its your boyfriend...

#NOEXCUSES

:lebroncry:

[SpaceJam2]

Mate. Give it a rest.

He was a kid in 04, and he was injured last year. This is known. No one thinks twice about it. Except you.

This

If it was the weak 80s and 90s ball then maybe 30 wins would get a playoffs spot like in MJ's day when he made the playoffs with a 30-52 record :lol

[IllegalD]

This

If it was the weak 80s and 90s ball then maybe 30 wins would get a playoffs spot like in MJ's day when he made the playoffs with a 30-52 record :lol

Imagine your conference final opponent being a Celtic team lead by a rookie Jayson Tatum. And then talking about weak eras... :roll: :lol :banana:

[SpaceJam2]

Imagine your conference final opponent being a Celtic team lead by a rookie Jayson Tatum. And then talking about weak eras... :roll: :lol :banana:

30-52 :lol

1-9 without Pip :lol

0-6 vs Bird :lol

#NotMyGoat

[IllegalD]

30-52 :lol

1-9 without Pip :lol

0-6 vs Bird :lol

#NotMyGoat

3-6 in the finals :lol

BAILED OUT TWICE by Ray and Kyrie :lol

1-2 vs Duncan :lol

#NotANYONESGoat

[SpaceJam2]

3-6 in the finals :lol

BAILED OUT TWICE by Ray and Kyrie :lol

1-2 vs Duncan :lol

#NotANYONESGoat


Too ez


WE
STAY
WINNING


:dancin

[3ball]

3-6 in the finals :lol

BAILED OUT TWICE by Ray and Kyrie :lol

1-2 vs Duncan :lol

#NotANYONESGoat
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Teenage years and injury season? :oldlol:

Yikes, the desperation is palpable.

Better luck next time champ

[3ball]

Teenage years and injury season? :oldlol:

Yikes, the desperation is palpable.

Better luck next time champ
Lebron had the East all-star center on his team in 2004 and 2005, yet missed the playoffs - that's pathetic - he missed the playoffs with good supporting talent (he also had a 14/10 PF)

And Lebron's record when he played was only .500 for all 3 lottery seasons (lottery level record)… so Lebron simply gets lottery-level wins with bad teams just like any other great player did, hence him with lottery-level results in those 3 years - every other year he had a good team/high seed and therefore wasn't carrying a goddamm thing.. the times he actually had to carry a bad team, he missed the playoffs.

[Manny98]

1-9

[SpaceJam2]

Because the NBA did move past the dark ages...30-52 teams don't make the playoffs anymore like they did with MJ's Bulls.

MJ made the playoffs three years with a losing record :lol

New thread idea? The Pre Pippen MJ era was ugly

https://i.postimg.cc/J4Ps0CjR/the-MJ-era.png

1985: 38-44
1986: 30-52
1987: 40-42

3 straight years with a losing record and a 1st round sweep

Pippen shows up and wow. MJ can win games now...Interesting[/QUOTE]

[AlternativeAcc.]

[QUOTE=3ball]Lebron had the East all-star center on his team in 2004 and 2005, yet missed the playoffs - that's pathetic - he missed the playoffs with good supporting talent (he also had a 14/10 PF)

And Lebron's record when he played was only .500 for all 3 lottery seasons (lottery level record)

[Ainosterhaspie]

Jordan had a losing record 33% of the time, LeBron just 12%.

Also here's a Jordan clutch time GIF for you...
https://media.giphy.com/media/JSemy1zGoby2EsaNgM/giphy.gif

[3ball]

At the same age Jordan was 3rd fiddle IN COLLEGE! Not even the 2nd best player on his team.. IN COLLEGE.

Now THAT's pathetic, much like yourself :cheers:
Keep in mind that Lebron was 20 during the 2005 season, yet missed the playoffs with an all-star center teammate

Meanwhile, other 20 year-olds like Magic were winning FMVP... :facepalm

[3ball]

Jordan had a losing record 33% of the time, LeBron just 12%.

Also here's a Jordan clutch time GIF for you...
https://media.giphy.com/media/JSemy1zGoby2EsaNgM/giphy.gif
Who has far more turnovers on the last possession - MJ or Lebron?

I'll wait

[Dray n Klay]

Jordan missed the playoffs in his 14th and 15th season

LeBron made the Finals in his 14th and 15th season