View Full Version : Can someone post LeBrons playoff stats from 2012-2018?
Dray n Klay
11-27-2019, 12:07 AM
And can someone also post Jordan
SpaceJam2
11-27-2019, 12:09 AM
Uh oh :eek:
Duncan21formvp
11-27-2019, 12:21 AM
6 Finals MVP's, 4 league MVP's, 6 Titles, 6 scoring titles all done with team that drafted him
vs
3 Finals MVP's, 2 league MVP's, 3 Titles, 0 Scoring Titles all done playing with players who made the allstar team or won titles before ever playing with Lebron
knicksman
11-27-2019, 12:23 AM
0 rings for 4 MVPs. Thats how much of an underachiever he is. Complete opposite of kawhi. 2 rings for 0 MVPs.
SpaceJam2
11-27-2019, 12:27 AM
Why is everyone so scared to post them? Isn't Jordan the goat? :lol
Duncan21formvp
11-27-2019, 12:32 AM
Why is everyone so scared to post them? Isn't Jordan the goat? :lol
Yes
6 Finals MVP's, 4 league MVP's, 6 Titles, 6 scoring titles all done with team that drafted him
vs
3 Finals MVP's, 2 league MVP's, 3 Titles, 0 Scoring Titles all done playing with players who made the allstar team or won titles before ever playing with Lebron
SpaceJam2
11-27-2019, 12:37 AM
Yes
6 Finals MVP's, 4 league MVP's, 6 Titles, 6 scoring titles all done with team that drafted him
vs
3 Finals MVP's, 2 league MVP's, 3 Titles, 0 Scoring Titles all done playing with players who made the allstar team or won titles before ever playing with Lebron
Bill Russell the GOAT Standard thanks
11 chips to MJ's 6
Good night
:dancin
Bronbron23
11-27-2019, 12:38 AM
[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]And can someone also post Jordan
SpaceJam2
11-27-2019, 12:38 AM
Well you need more than just stats to compare players. You have to use eye test, chips and accolades also. Otherwise that means that Russell Westbrook has been a better all around player than lebron in the last few years and we all know that's not true
Playoffs? :(
Try again 3balt
Duncan21formvp
11-27-2019, 12:41 AM
Bill Russell the GOAT Standard thanks
11 chips to MJ's 6
Good night
:dancin
Bill Russell joined a team with the league mvp and rookie of the year and only had to win 2 series to win a title.
Bronbron23
11-27-2019, 01:18 AM
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2]Playoffs? :(
So your saying westbrook was a better passer in the regular season because his stats were better? Westbrook at no point in his career was a better passer than lebron. I don't need stats to tell me that.
And what about playoffs?
Playoff stats say that mj had a better peak than lebron but lebron was better older. MJ's peak was 90-93. Lebron's was 2011-2014. In those years in the playoffs mj had more pts per game, assists per game, steals per game and blocks per game. The only category lebron was better in was rebounds.
It's no coincidence that those peak years of lebron in Miami were he played more within a system was when he won the most but it was also when his stats were at his lowest.
superduper
11-27-2019, 01:19 AM
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2]Playoffs? :(
So your saying westbrook was a better passer in the regular season because his stats were better? Westbrook at no point in his career was a better passer than lebron. I don't need stats to tell me that.
And what about playoffs?
Playoff stats say that mj had a better peak than lebron but lebron was better older. MJ's peak was 90-93. Lebron's was 2011-2014. In those years in the playoffs mj had more pts per game, assists per game, steals per game and blocks per game. The only category lebron was better in was rebounds.
It's no coincidence that those peak years of lebron in Miami were he played more within a system was when he won the most but it was also when his stats were at his lowest.
You can't type this much to these retards. They literally don't understand basketball beyond 33-9-8!!
Bronbron23
11-27-2019, 01:21 AM
[QUOTE=Bronbron23]
You can't type this much to these retards. They literally don't understand basketball beyond 33-9-8!!
Good point :lol
3ball
11-27-2019, 02:42 PM
Gimme a sec OP
SpaceJam2
11-27-2019, 02:43 PM
I looked it up once, it's something like this:
LBJ
30-8-8 on 52%
MJ
33-7-5 on 48%
ImKobe
11-27-2019, 02:53 PM
Jordan: 6 rings 6 FMVPs, 6-0 Finals record
couldn't find the numbers for Lebron, anyone got them?
3ball
11-27-2019, 03:43 PM
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Playoffs (3 rings each)
JORDAN 88-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html)... 34.6.. 6.7.. 6.6.. 2.3.. 0.9.. 3.3 tov.. 58.3 ts.. 35.7% 3P (2.3 att)
LEBRON 12-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html)... 29.5.. 9.2.. 7.6.. 1.8.. 0.9.. 3.6 tov.. 59.0 ts.. 33.7% 3P (4.7 att)
JORDAN 88-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced)... 29.8 PER.. 0.267 ws/48.. 9.8 obpm.. 12.0 bpm
LEBRON 12-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2012-2018-sum:playoffs_advanced)... 29.6 PER.. 0.258 ws/48.. 8.3 obpm.. 11.6 bpm
:roll:
AlternativeAcc.
11-27-2019, 03:47 PM
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Playoffs (3 rings each)
JORDAN 88-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html)... 34.6.. 6.7.. 6.6.. 2.3.. 0.9.. 3.3 tov.. 58.3 ts.. 35.7% 3P (2.3 att)
LEBRON 12-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html)'... 29.5.. 9.2.. 7.6.. 1.8.. 0.9.. 3.6 tov.. 59.0 ts.. 33.7% 3P (4.7 att)
JORDAN 88-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced)... 29.8 PER.. 0.267 ws/48.. 9.8 obpm.. 12.0 bpm
LEBRON 12-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2012-2018-sum:playoffs_advanced)'... 29.6 PER.. 0.258 ws/48.. 8.3 obpm.. 11.6 bpm
:roll:
:milton
ArbitraryWater
11-27-2019, 03:53 PM
[QUOTE=SpaceJam2]Playoffs? :(
So your saying westbrook was a better passer in the regular season because his stats were better? Westbrook at no point in his career was a better passer than lebron. I don't need stats to tell me that.
And what about playoffs?
Playoff stats say that mj had a better peak than lebron but lebron was better older. MJ's peak was 90-93. Lebron's was 2011-2014. In those years in the playoffs mj had more pts per game, assists per game, steals per game and blocks per game. The only category lebron was better in was rebounds.
It's no coincidence that those peak years of lebron in Miami were he played more within a system was when he won the most but it was also when his stats were at his lowest.
you realize you can pick a better time span for LeBron, right?
You're retarded af bra
3ball
11-27-2019, 03:55 PM
:milton
Jordan averaged 5 more points, with near-equal assists, less turnovers, and higher advanced stats across the board
:roll:
Oh, and MJ led a 6 seed to 6 games with the champs, while Lebron's 2 seeds got beat by record amount to 2 different teams
Dray n Klay
11-27-2019, 05:55 PM
Jordan averaged 5 more points, with near-equal assists, less turnovers, and higher advanced stats across the board
:roll:
Oh, and MJ led a 6 seed to 6 games with the champs, while Lebron's 2 seeds got beat by record amount to 2 different teams
Your time frame is wrong
I said 1991-1993- 1996-1998
The same ages for both players
3ball
11-27-2019, 06:12 PM
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JORDAN 88-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html)... 34.6.. 6.7.. 6.6.. 2.3.. 0.9.. 3.3 tov.. 58.3 ts.. 35.7% 3P (2.3 att)
LEBRON 12-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html)... 29.5.. 9.2.. 7.6.. 1.8.. 0.9.. 3.6 tov.. 59.0 ts.. 33.7% 3P (4.7 att)
JORDAN 88-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced)... 29.8 PER.. 0.267 ws/48.. 9.8 obpm.. 12.0 bpm
LEBRON 12-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2012-2018-sum:playoffs_advanced)... 29.6 PER.. 0.258 ws/48.. 8.3 obpm.. 11.6 bpm
Your time frame is wrong
I said 1991-1993- 1996-1998
The same ages for both players
Oh, so you concede that MJ's 88-93 playoff stats are indeed superior to Lebron's best from 12-18'? (shown above)
got it
regarding the other stats - you want to compare Lebron's losing stats to MJ's winning stats?... That's meaningless, which is why a comparison to 88-93' is more valid (shown above)
SpaceJam2
11-27-2019, 06:25 PM
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JORDAN 88-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html)... 34.6.. 6.7.. 6.6.. 2.3.. 0.9.. 3.3 tov.. 58.3 ts.. 35.7% 3P (2.3 att)
LEBRON 12-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html)... 29.5.. 9.2.. 7.6.. 1.8.. 0.9.. 3.6 tov.. 59.0 ts.. 33.7% 3P (4.7 att)
JORDAN 88-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced)... 29.8 PER.. 0.267 ws/48.. 9.8 obpm.. 12.0 bpm
LEBRON 12-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2012-2018-sum:playoffs_advanced)... 29.6 PER.. 0.258 ws/48.. 8.3 obpm.. 11.6 bpm
Oh, so you concede that MJ's 88-93 playoff stats are indeed superior to Lebron's best from 12-18'? (shown above)
got it
regarding the other stats - you want to compare Lebron's losing stats to MJ's winning stats?... That's meaningless, which is why a comparison to 88-93' is more valid (shown above)
Dumb premise. Whats new
Compare the best 6 Finals runs for both since MJ only made 6 Finals.
Youd lose.
coin24
11-27-2019, 06:30 PM
Dumb premise. Whats new
Compare the best 6 Finals runs for both since MJ only made 6 Finals.
Youd lose.
Actually Lebron would, it's the finals
Manny98
11-27-2019, 07:02 PM
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Playoffs (3 rings each)
JORDAN 88-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html)... 34.6.. 6.7.. 6.6.. 2.3.. 0.9.. 3.3 tov.. 58.3 ts.. 35.7% 3P (2.3 att)
LEBRON 12-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html)... 29.5.. 9.2.. 7.6.. 1.8.. 0.9.. 3.6 tov.. 59.0 ts.. 33.7% 3P (4.7 att)
JORDAN 88-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced)... 29.8 PER.. 0.267 ws/48.. 9.8 obpm.. 12.0 bpm
LEBRON 12-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2012-2018-sum:playoffs_advanced)... 29.6 PER.. 0.258 ws/48.. 8.3 obpm.. 11.6 bpm
:roll:
MJ stats are inflated because he didn't even make the finals half of those years and played FAR weaker competition and despite all that MJs numbers are only equal LeBron has more rebounds and assists and was more efficienct scoring wise so if anything LeBron still wins in spite of Jordans inflated numbers from not reaching the finals half of the time :roll:
3ball
11-27-2019, 07:10 PM
MJ stats are inflated because he didn't even make the finals half of those years and played FAR weaker competition and despite all that MJs numbers are only equal LeBron has more rebounds and assists and was more efficienct scoring wise so if anything LeBron still wins in spite of Jordans inflated numbers from not reaching the finals half of the time :roll:
MJ faced the dynasty Pistons each year that he didn't make the Finals, whereas Lebron never faced anyone good to make the Finals from 2012-2018
For his first ring, Lebron beat a core that was 35/36/32 years old (12' Celtics - KG/Allen/Pierce)
For his first ring, Jordan beat a core that was 29/29/27 years old (91' Pistons - Isiah/Rodman/Dumars)
No comparison - MJ faced far tougher comp to win
Manny98
11-27-2019, 07:14 PM
MJ faced the dynasty Pistons each year that he didn't make the Finals, whereas Lebron never faced anyone good to make the Finals from 2012-2018
For his first ring, Lebron beat a core that was 35/36/32 years old (12' Celtics - KG/Allen/Pierce)
For his first ring, Jordan beat a core that was 29/29/27 years old (91' Pistons - Isiah/Rodman/Dumars)
No comparison - MJ faced far tougher comp to win
He faced the dynasty Pistons and got spanked 3 consecutive years and didn't beat them until Pippen became the best small forward in the league and IT was hurt and past his prime :roll:
3ball
11-27-2019, 07:19 PM
He faced the dynasty Pistons and got spanked 3 consecutive years and didn't beat them until Pippen became the best small forward in the league and IT was hurt and past his prime :roll:
Pippen wasn't even an all-star in 1991 - many guys were considered better
again - you guys are just liars at this point - you can't post stats or accolades because they don't back up your point, so you just lie and hope no one calls you on it.. it's pathetic and proves that you support a FAKE goat
and MJ only needed a before-prime 18-point sidekick to win, whereas Lebron needed two established superstars to still mostly lose
SpaceJam2
11-27-2019, 07:21 PM
He faced the dynasty Pistons and got spanked 3 consecutive years and didn't beat them until Pippen became the best small forward in the league and IT was hurt and past his prime :roll:
Ouch :lol
And then theres the touchy subject surrounding Pippen outscoring the opponents #2 option in 5 of 6 Finals WHILE also being the Bulls defensive anchor
3ball
11-27-2019, 07:22 PM
Dumb premise. Whats new
Compare the best 6 Finals runs for both since MJ only made 6 Finals.
Youd lose.
OP said the entire playoffs, not just the Finals, so you're wrong as usual
Also, MJ's Finals stats are always better than Lebron's, even if you choose Lebron's top 6 - MJ simply scores more on better efficiency per possession, with far greater clutch stats and scoring burden.. Lebron's assists stats mean nothing because MJ sacrificed his assists/ball-domination for ball MOVEMENT
Manny98
11-27-2019, 07:26 PM
Pippen wasn't even an all-star in 1991 - many guys were considered better
again - you guys are just liars at this point - you can't post stats or accolades because they don't back up your point, so you just lie and hope no one calls you on it.. it's pathetic and proves that you support a FAKE goat
and MJ only needed a before-prime 18-point sidekick to win, whereas Lebron needed two established superstars to still mostly lose
He led all Small Forwards in PER, win shares and plus minus at the time so yes Pippen was EASILY the best small forward in the league at the time only Dominique has a argument over Pippen
SpaceJam2
11-27-2019, 07:28 PM
He led all Small Forwards in PER, win shares and plus minus at the time so yes Pippen was EASILY the best small forward in the league at the time only Dominique has a argument over Pippen
Yikes
Ether
SpaceJam2
11-27-2019, 07:29 PM
OP said the entire playoffs, not just the Finals, so you're wrong as usual
Also, MJ's Finals stats are always better than Lebron's, even if you choose Lebron's top 6 - MJ simply scores more on better efficiency per possession, with far greater clutch stats and scoring burden.. Lebron's assists stats mean nothing because MJ sacrificed his assists/ball-domination for ball MOVEMENT
:lol
MJ is #2 in everything
SpaceJam2
11-28-2019, 12:20 PM
Found it, 3 ball lying like always
LeBron:
29.5
7.1
9.2
1.8
0.9
51%
34%
Jordan:
32.8
5.3
6.2
1.9
0.8
48%
33%
LBJ > MJ
6 Finals MVP's, 4 league MVP's, 6 Titles, 6 scoring titles
vs
3 Finals MVP's, 2 league MVP's, 3 Titles
holy shit that's actually incredible for a 7 year stretch :applause:
3ball
11-28-2019, 01:10 PM
holy shit that's actually incredible for a 7 year stretch :applause:
5 rings in 7 years is obviously much better
Carry on with your fake top 10 player
Hey Yo
11-28-2019, 06:08 PM
5 rings in 7 years is obviously much better
Carry on with your fake top 10 player
Not impressive when you have to take 2yrs off to rest up mentally and physically to achieve rings 4 and 5.
72-10
11-28-2019, 07:44 PM
it's kind of strange it's like MJ received the ball at the end of plays in the triangle offense, and it was the end of plays
Dray n Klay
11-28-2019, 08:51 PM
Found it, 3 ball lying like always
LeBron:
29.5
7.1
9.2
1.8
0.9
51%
34%
Jordan:
32.8
5.3
6.2
1.9
0.8
48%
33%
LBJ > MJ
3ball whats your response to this?
superduper
11-28-2019, 09:35 PM
Not impressive when you have to take 2yrs off to rest up mentally and physically to achieve rings 4 and 5.
Not many have 3peated once and the GOAT did it twice.
Bran has no idea what its like mentally and physically.
All he knows is what it's like to lose.
AlternativeAcc.
11-28-2019, 09:48 PM
Not many have 3peated once and the GOAT did it twice.
Bran has no idea what its like mentally and physically.
All he knows is what it's like to lose.
Not many have quit for 2 years to rest up mentally and physically, Jordan is a rare breed of puccy. None of his rings mean anything in relation to LeBron's.
SpaceJam2
11-28-2019, 11:48 PM
Not many have 3peated once and the GOAT did it twice.
Bran has no idea what its like mentally and physically.
All he knows is what it's like to lose.
MJ literally quit twice, retired three times, and pioneered load management :lol
julizaver
11-29-2019, 07:45 AM
Bill Russell joined a team with the league mvp and rookie of the year and only had to win 2 series to win a title.
And great coach also ... ;)
In modern era it is similar to Duncan (a season ending injury to MVP calibier player and starters made Spurs so miserable that next season they had not one but 2 of the best big men together and Popovic as coach in pre 3point era)
Hey Yo
11-29-2019, 10:40 AM
Not many have 3peated once and the GOAT did it twice.
Bran has no idea what its like mentally and physically.
All he knows is what it's like to lose.
He's played 16 full seasons w/o quitting. 8 straight of those years playing in the Finals.
Jordan couldn't even play 8 straight full seasons w/o having to quit and rest up. He quit after the 7th.
warriorfan
11-29-2019, 11:18 AM
Jason Terry.
superduper
11-29-2019, 11:20 AM
Boris Diaw.
3ball
11-29-2019, 06:00 PM
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JORDAN 88-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html)... 34.6.. 6.7.. 6.6.. 2.3.. 0.9.. 3.3 tov.. 58.3 ts.. 35.7% 3P (2.3 att)
LEBRON 12-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html)... 29.5.. 9.2.. 7.6.. 1.8.. 0.9.. 3.6 tov.. 59.0 ts.. 33.7% 3P (4.7 att)
JORDAN 88-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced)... 29.8 PER.. 0.267 ws/48.. 9.8 obpm.. 12.0 bpm
LEBRON 12-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2012-2018-sum:playoffs_advanced)... 29.6 PER.. 0.258 ws/48.. 8.3 obpm.. 11.6 bpm
OP wants to compare Lebron's losing stats from 12-18' (he was 3-4) to Jordan's 6-0 winning stats?... That's meaningless, which is why a comparison to Jordan's 88-93' is more valid (shown above)
And btw, Jordan's stats from his 6-0 run are still superior to Lebron's
Anyone?
dankok8
11-29-2019, 08:13 PM
Anyone?
At least take 87-93 (inclusive) so we're comparing 7-year stretches for both.
The stretch you posted is 147 games for Lebron and only 101 for Jordan. You're not comparing apples and apples. The stats are so close that you cannot differentiate them in productivity to be honest. Comes down to preference. No one reasonable denies that Jordan is the better pure scorer but no one reasonable denies that Lebron is the better playmaker and rebounder either.
3ball
11-29-2019, 08:40 PM
At least take 87-93 (inclusive) so we're comparing 7-year stretches for both.
The stretch you posted is 147 games for Lebron and only 101 for Jordan. You're not comparing apples and apples. The stats are so close that you cannot differentiate them in productivity to be honest. Comes down to preference. No one reasonable denies that Jordan is the better pure scorer but no one reasonable denies that Lebron is the better playmaker and rebounder either.
If Lebron is a better playmaker, then why did MJ average equal or greater assists in the playoffs and Finals of his first 3 championship runs?
Jordan 1991-1993 Playoffs. - 33.7 and 6.6 apg
Lebron. 12/13/16. Playoffs - 27.2 and 7.2 apg
Jordan 1991-1993 Finals. - 36.3 and 7.9 apg
Lebron. 12/13/16. Finals - 27.0 and 7.2 apg
Or for all their playoff runs thru 31 years old and 3 rings (85-93' vs 06-16'):
PLAYOFFS PER GAME
Jordan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game
):. 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 50.1 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
Lebron (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 47.8 fg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER
PLAYOFFS PER 100 POSSESSIONS
Jordan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_poss
):I 43.9 pts..N 8.5 reb.. 8.4 ast.. 4.2 tov.. 2.9 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 50.1 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
Lebron (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 36.4 pts.. 11.5 reb.. 8.8 ast.. 4.6 tov.. 2.3 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 47.8 fg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER
FINALS PER GAME:
Jordan Finals:. 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.7 tov.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg
Lebron Finals:. 27.0 ppg.. 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 4.0 tov.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg
Jordan's first 3 rings required 25-33% more scoring with better efficiency than Lebron's 3 rings, while still getting equal or greater assists... :eek:
As you can see, MJ's stats are superior no matter what time period you use.. :confusedshrug:
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SpaceJam2
11-29-2019, 10:39 PM
Both players played 13 playoffs right? Post the numbers thanks
Want me to? okay then...
3ball
11-29-2019, 10:46 PM
Both players played 13 playoffs right? Post the numbers thanks
Want me to? okay then...
Jordan....' 33.4.. 1.7 oreb.. 4.7 dreb.. 5.7 apg.. 3.1 tov.. 2.1 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 56.8 ts.. 118 ortg.. 28.6 PER.. 0.255 ws/48.. 8.1 obpm
Lebron...'' 28.9.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.3 dreb.. 7.1 apg.. 3.6 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 57.9 ts.. 116 ortg.. 28.3 PER.. 0.244 ws/48.. 7.8 obpm
DMAVS41
11-29-2019, 10:51 PM
https://backpicks.com/2017/12/11/the-backpicks-goat-the-40-best-careers-in-nba-history/
MJ #3
Lebron #2
SpaceJam2
11-29-2019, 10:59 PM
Jordan....' 33.4.. 1.7 oreb.. 4.7 dreb.. 5.7 apg.. 3.1 tov.. 2.1 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 56.8 ts.. 118 ortg.. 28.6 PER.. 0.255 ws/48.. 8.1 obpm
Lebron...'' 28.9.. 1.5 oreb.. 7.3 dreb.. 7.1 apg.. 3.6 tov.. 1.8 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 57.9 ts.. 116 ortg.. 28.3 PER.. 0.244 ws/48.. 7.8 obpm
no
DefRtg
DBPM
BPM
VORP
WS
? :lol Because LeBron wins in all of them?
Try again noobie :lol
3ball
11-29-2019, 11:33 PM
no
DefRtg
DBPM
BPM
VORP
WS
? :lol Because LeBron wins in all of them?
Try again noobie :lol
You already know that drtg is based on team performance and favors frontcourt players that get more defensive rebs
and you already know that dbpm favors frontcourt players that get more defensive rebounds
so those categories don't matter - no one is mistaking Lebron for being the better defender anyway
I'll give it to Lebron on VORP... he's got that one... but WS is based on longevity - give it up brah - you know and I know that MJ got more WS per game.. :eek:
but even if we gave Lebron dreb, apg, bpg, ts, dbpm, drtg, vorp and bpm, Jordan would still win overall - PPG, oreb, spg, lower turnovers, ortg, PER, ws/48, obpm, plus-minus, better jumpshooting efficiency, more double-teams, higher scoring burden, better clutch %, better clutch frequency, and better overall clutch stats.
IT'S NOT CLOSE... take this L rookie
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egokiller
11-29-2019, 11:39 PM
3ball wins again.
SpaceJam in tears.... again.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
DMAVS41
11-29-2019, 11:40 PM
But a guy doing a far more thorough statistical analysis...says it is close...and also happens to not be as incredibly biased and inconsistent in his arguments.
I'll go with his analysis, even though I disagree, over yours...
:confusedshrug:
3ball
11-29-2019, 11:42 PM
But a guy doing a far more thorough statistical analysis...says it is close...and also happens to not be as incredibly biased and inconsistent in his arguments.
I'll go with his analysis, even though I disagree, over yours...
:confusedshrug:
mindfu.cked again I see
just like the other thread where my concise, cogent arguments left you a blabbering mess
DMAVS41
11-29-2019, 11:46 PM
mindfu.cked again I see
just like the other thread where my concise, cogent arguments left you a blabbering mess
What, I'm not even arguing with you in the sense of MJ vs Lebron.
You idiot...I rank MJ clearly higher.
My point is that your bullshit stats you post here aren't nearly as good as the analysis done on Backpicks.
So please stop posting your shit all day everyday...especially when almost everyone here agrees Jordan was better.
You sit here trying to argue with people that actually agree with you.
The other thread? You got wrecked dude...sorry.
3ball
11-29-2019, 11:50 PM
What, I'm not even arguing with you in the sense of MJ vs Lebron.
You idiot...I rank MJ clearly higher.
My point is that your bullshit stats you post here aren't nearly as good as the analysis done on Backpicks.
SpaceJam asked me to post their career playoff stats - I did so
I haven't presented any analysis of those numbers, but if I did, it would be far superior to backpicks..
SpaceJam2
11-29-2019, 11:54 PM
What, I'm not even arguing with you in the sense of MJ vs Lebron.
You idiot...I rank MJ clearly higher.
My point is that your bullshit stats you post here aren't nearly as good as the analysis done on Backpicks.
So please stop posting your shit all day everyday...especially when almost everyone here agrees Jordan was better.
You sit here trying to argue with people that actually agree with you.
The other thread? You got wrecked dude...sorry.
Blasted :lol Damn :roll:
SpaceJam2
11-29-2019, 11:55 PM
SpaceJam asked me to post their career playoff stats - I did so
I haven't presented any analysis of those numbers, but if I did, it would be far superior to backpicks..
You're an insane lunatic
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