Is Porzingis overrated?

[iamgine]

He was called a legit franchise player. The Unicorn. Phil Jackson did such a great job drafting him.

But at his best season he was averaging 22ppg on 54 TS%, 6.6 rebounds, 2.4 blocks. Also, more TOs than assists every single season. The blocks are great but this is worse than Chris Bosh numbers. And no one would rate Bosh that highly.

What is the big deal with this guy. :confusedshrug:

[FultzNationRISE]

He started off this season looking like an all pro, then suddenly hit the skids and was playing like a d-leaguer. He took his benching like a man a few games ago and said he couldnt blame coach for doing it, and ever since then his rebounding has been way up even if his shot isnt falling. It seems like he is working and trying to do the right things to get better.

The thing about him is he

[RoseCity07]

He's soft. Don't like the guy at all.

[AussieSteve]

I'm waiting for the 'Luka is marginalizing KP' threads.

His ppg are down by 4.5

[Dr Hawk]

This is his 4th season in the NBA after being out for more than 1 year while he was developing. Give him time.

[Gotterdammerung]

Kristap Porzingis is the evolutionary version of Ralph Sampson.

Similar body build as well as repertoire of basketball skills.

But he hasn't shown enough to deserve such a comparison. Perhaps when he fully recovers from his injuries and has good coaching, and the game slows down.

[Bimbo Coles]

Phil Jackson looked like a crazy person when he wanted to flip him for picks. Never go against a guy like Jackson, especially if you're guys like the Knicks.

[SomeBlackDude]

he's one of those crazy talented guys who only rarely plays up to his ability/potential. reminds me of a rasheed wallace. sheed had arguably more talent than chris webber, but only in flashes showed it. don't get me wrong, he had a great career capped off with a ring... but always felt if he had a more aggressive mentality, he could've be a 25/12/6 with all nba level defense peak player.

same with zingis- he's shown flashes of the freak ability he has... just never consistently. don't know if it's a confidence thing but, no reason he shouldn't be top 5 in rebounding and blocks while putting up 25+ on a nightly basis.

[Showtime80']

"Kristap Porzingis is the evolutionary version of Ralph Sampson."

Hell of an insult to Ralph my friend. From 1979 to 1987 (before the injury) he was:

3- time college player of the year
NBA rookie of the year
4-time NBA all-star
2nd team All-NBA in 1985
Averaged 20 ppg, 11rpg, 3ast, 2 blks
Finals in 1986

Ralph had top 25 all-time potential before the injuries. The overrated scrub from Latvia is not even close to that.

[90sgoat]

He's soft. Don't like the guy at all.

He's not really soft, doesn't back down or get intimated, he is just impossibly lanky and as a result does not really have a solid base or leg strength.

Don't forget this guy is closer to Shawn Bradley in height than Dwight Howard!

This year he is missing almost all his midrange jumpers though, which he was automatic on at Knicks, so I figure he will improve his timing as the season progresses.

[Patrick Chewing]

As a Knicks fan, the Knicks did the right thing in trading him and not trying to coax him in buying in to the Knicks. He was never going to attract other talent here. His stock would have never been higher, so getting two first round draft picks for him makes all the sense in the world.

[90sgoat]

As a Knicks fan, the Knicks did the right thing in trading him and not trying to coax him in buying in to the Knicks. He was never going to attract other talent here. His stock would have never been higher, so getting two first round draft picks for him makes all the sense in the world.

Yes and now you have Julius "spinmove and a turnover" Randle and Dennis "knucklehead" Smith Junior, so you stay winning :cheers:

[DMAVS41]

As always, it depends on who is doing the rating.

If someone is arguing he's a superstar...then yep, he's over-rated.

If someone is arguing he's a below average starter...then nope, he's under-rated.

KP provides a ton of spacing on the floor with his range shooting and also is really good at protecting the rim. Those two things have a lot of value in the league currently.

Having said that, his current level is not worth his contract......hopefully he continues to improve.

[Patrick Chewing]

Yes and now you have Julius "spinmove and a turnover" Randle and Dennis "knucklehead" Smith Junior, so you stay winning :cheers:


So Porzingis would have walked after his contract expired and the Knicks would have been left with nothing......yeah that make a whole lot of sense.

[stalkerforlife]

If you think he's a superstar, then yes of course lol.

He's not a number one on a title team.

Could maybe develop into a 2nd or 3rd option on a title team.

[sammichoffate]

Compared to someone like Towns, yes he's overrated.

[ImKobe]

He's coming back from an ACL injury after not playing for over a year, currently he's pretty much on par with his last season in NY with him rebounding better than he ever has and he's found his 3-Point shot again. I think he'll be fine.

[Micku]

He's coming back from an ACL injury after not playing for over a year, currently he's pretty much on par with his last season in NY with him rebounding better than he ever has and he's found his 3-Point shot again. I think he'll be fine.

Yeah. He just came back from a major injury. So, I personally would be surprise if he bounce back even better than he did before. From what I seen, it takes them a while to get back to where they were.

But yeah, he isn't a superstar. But he isn't an average player either. He's young and still has time to improve. I don't think he's going to be the best in the league or anything. We'll see what happens in a few years if he improves.

[Gotterdammerung]

"Kristap Porzingis is the evolutionary version of Ralph Sampson."

Hell of an insult to Ralph my friend. From 1979 to 1987 (before the injury) he was:

3- time college player of the year
NBA rookie of the year
4-time NBA all-star
2nd team All-NBA in 1985
Averaged 20 ppg, 11rpg, 3ast, 2 blks
Finals in 1986

Ralph had top 25 all-time potential before the injuries. The overrated scrub from Latvia is not even close to that.

Correct, which is why I also wrote that KP hasn't shown enough to deserve such a comparison. :hammerhead:

Sampson is what KP was projected to be, given those flashes. Maybe he never will reach such heights, but KP is young and we can use history to see where he can go in the future. :cheers:

[BarberSchool]

Kristap Porzingis is the evolutionary version of Ralph Sampson.

Similar body build as well as repertoire of basketball skills.

But he hasn't shown enough to deserve such a comparison. Perhaps when he fully recovers from his injuries and has good coaching, and the game slows down.This.

[Artillery]

He was called a legit franchise player. The Unicorn. Phil Jackson did such a great job drafting him.

But at his best season he was averaging 22ppg on 54 TS%, 6.6 rebounds, 2.4 blocks. Also, more TOs than assists every single season. The blocks are great but this is worse than Chris Bosh numbers. And no one would rate Bosh that highly.

What is the big deal with this guy. :confusedshrug:

The teams with the largest fanbases are always the most obnoxious when it comes to overrating their youth. Lakers, Celtics, Knicks all have this problem. The Knicks haven't seen a good big since Ewing so they overrated the first one they drafted that was half decent. The Lakers tanked for six years for a group of scrubs in Ingram/Ball/Kuzma while insisting these losers were all superstars in the making. I even remember Rockets fans on this board saying Chandler Parsons had a higher ceiling than Kawhi back when they were rookies.

[Smoke117]

He wasn't even as good as his last season Knick stats stay. he had started off hot for the first month or so and than fell big time the 2nd of his season before he got injured.

[Artillery]

He wasn't even as good as his last season Knick stats stay. he had started off hot for the first month or so and than fell big time the 2nd of his season before he got injured.

He'll always be injury prone. Those giraffe necked players always are

[SamuraiSWISH]

he's one of those crazy talented guys who only rarely plays up to his ability/potential. reminds me of a rasheed wallace. sheed had arguably more talent than chris webber, but only in flashes showed it. don't get me wrong, he had a great career capped off with a ring... but always felt if he had a more aggressive mentality, he could've be a 25/12/6 with all nba level defense peak player.

same with zingis- he's shown flashes of the freak ability he has... just never consistently. don't know if it's a confidence thing but, no reason he shouldn't be top 5 in rebounding and blocks while putting up 25+ on a nightly basis.
Spot ****ing on. Sheed as good as he was, being a head case, was in a way on a macro NBA HOF legend level a waste of ****ing talent. So sad. His game, now, as a stretch 5 man, would be absurd. Taylor made for what he brought to the table.